Daily Review 20/10/2017

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1. rhinocrates 1

   20 October 2017 at 6:09 pm

   Sometimes The Economist is so quaint.

   https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21730406-what-can-be-done-help-them-globalisation-has-marginalised-many-regions-rich-world?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/globalisationhasmarginalisedmanyregionsintherichworld

   “Globalisation has marginalised many regions in the rich world
   What can be done to help them?”

   Really? You think so? How long did it take you to work this one out?
   • Patricia Bremner 1.1

     20 October 2017 at 7:16 pm

     Hopefully a sign the “neo-liberal tide has turned.
     • One Anonymous Bloke 1.1.1

       20 October 2017 at 8:27 pm

       To an extent. That particular steaming pile of sophistry has probably outlived its use-by date, but the NZ Institute still has lots of money to concoct another one.
       • WILD KATIPO 1.1.1.1

         21 October 2017 at 12:48 am

         The NZ Initiative aka the former Business Roundtable ?, … the local branch of the London based Mont Pelerin Society that backed Roger Douglas and Ruth Richardson in implementing the neo liberal treason?

         Yes indeed.

         They have got a lot of cash.

         Most of it ours .

         New Right Fight – Who are the New Right?
         http://www.newrightfight.co.nz/pageA.html
2. Fireblade 2

   20 October 2017 at 7:20 pm

   Great to see Jacinda on TV, smiling, positive, honest and very clear communication. I believe NZ First will also work hard for the country and the people. The Greens will work hard for environmental issues.

   Some are saying the new govt won’t last the term. I think it will. Winston won’t want to be remembered as the man who bought down the new govt.

   I now have hope for NZ future.

   BM still missing. Maybe no longer on the Nat’s payroll?
   • Draco T Bastard 2.1

     20 October 2017 at 7:46 pm

     The Greens will work hard for environmental issues.

     The Greens aren’t just an environmental party but one that’s all about sustainability in all aspects of our society.
     • Ad 2.1.1

       20 October 2017 at 7:54 pm

       Depends on what they actually deliver.

       Until then it’s all words.
       • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1

         20 October 2017 at 8:29 pm

         Well, so far they’ve delivered insulation for housing and thus reducing power usage and medical issues.

         I expect that they’ll keep delivering.
       • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.1.2

         20 October 2017 at 8:43 pm

         Words like these:

         GREENS’ POLICY GAINS:

         * Significant climate action with a shift to a net-zero carbon emissions economy by 2050 (specific focuses will be on transport, energy and primary industries).

         * The establishment of an independent climate commission.

         * Support for a shift in farming to more sustainable land use.

         * Overhaul of the welfare system, removing “excessive sanctions” and a review of Working for Families.

         * Increase to conservation budget.

         * New water quality measures.

         * Free counselling for under-25s and access to mental health services and support for everyone.

         * Special needs education access.

         * Progress to end gender pay gap in public service.

         – A reduction in number of students living in hardship.

         – Increase in funding for drug and alcohol addictions services and a referendum on the personal use of cannabis by the 2020 election.

         Anyway, I can see you’re feeling a little bit Hosking about it, so I’ll try really hard to be gentle.
       • WILD KATIPO 2.1.1.3

         21 October 2017 at 12:52 am

         Ad ,… they already HAVE been delivering through the years, in influencing this country’s policy’s and attitudes.

         The difference is now they have formal recognition and portfolios by being a part of the new coalition government.

         Which is long overdue.

         Good on the Greens !
3. Chris 3

   20 October 2017 at 7:26 pm

   When will we get decent commentary about the election result? I cannot believe this complete and utter shite could ever be published by a mainstream newspaper.

   https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98089719/if-bill-english-goes-these-people-are-his-likely-replacements

   Whoever this Cooke guy is he’s a total plonker. Check out his lines. He’s a journalist. FFS. Is this as good as it gets?
   • Patricia Bremner 3.1

     20 October 2017 at 11:06 pm

     I wrote a scathing description of Henry Cooke’s write ups in the last days of Jacinda’s campaign.

     He had pictures and throw away comments, but no real information about her in Stuff.

     Meantime the other reporters were waxing lyrical about Bill and his progress.

     I said Henry was a real let down. Well Well!! Turns out he’s a Nat Lapdog.

     Explains a lot!! Thanks Chris, you said it “A real plonker!”
4. Et Tu Brute ? 4

   20 October 2017 at 7:42 pm

   Re. “FFS. Is this as good as it gets?”

   Well …. yes !

   There has been massive dumbing down of the critical faculties of the population by a thing called the internet. Let’s see how they survive the next power crisis ..
5. chris73 5

   20 October 2017 at 8:07 pm

   Ok so I’ve been contacted by Nationals backers and they’ve asked me don my PR hat again (they thought they didn’t need me last time) and advise them on where to go from here so I’ll share some of my thoughts here

   First no personally attacking Jacinda, learn the lessons of the left and leave her alone because the public love her and she has the media in her pocket so any attacks on her will be thought of as sexist, ageist, mean etc etc but instead go after her promises and keep bringing up the lack of progress

   Second use all the power you have to stymie any and all progress the coalition can make through superior numbers especially at select committee level

   Third the temptation will be there to absolutely hammer NZFirst in the provinces, resist this, instead make overtures to NZFirst especially in regards to making a deal for one of the seats, Northland perhaps (Winston probably felt he was due some utu)

   Fourth help grow Act, they have a seat so they should at least be able to provide a couple of extra seats in the future and this can be achieved by pooling resources and giving more credit to Act and reiterating a vote for Act is not a wasted vote

   Fifth start a dialogue with the Greens, even if the Greens reject any sort of co-operation at least National can say we tried

   Sixth Bill English to lead the counter attack for at least a year as the last thing you want is a battle so soon after losing the election

   Seven it would tempting to attack the coalition on every single policy and/or announcement, do not do this, the Left did this and people stopped listening so instead chose a couple of things that Jacinda campaigned on, know all you can know about it and then focus on those
   • Sanctuary 5.1

     20 October 2017 at 8:09 pm

     But first, fall into a bitter internal battle of succession.
   • Psycho Milt 5.2

     20 October 2017 at 8:23 pm

     OMG, as a left-winger who wishes a long term in office for Labour and the Greens I really hope National goes with DPF’s strategies instead of yours!
     • One Anonymous Bloke 5.2.1

       20 October 2017 at 8:48 pm

       I’ll just post them here so people don’t have to visit his sewer.

       Knock 2.3% off NZ First to eliminate them from Parliament. Target their support base of rural/provincial NZ and remind them constantly Winston put the Greens into Government.

       Target Labour seats to reduce them to a metropolitan party. Start three years campaigns to win West Coast Tasman, Napier, New Lynn, Te Atatu, Ohariu, Wigram, Palmerston North and Port Hills. This would reduce them to just 14 general electorate seats.

       The Greens have never been in Government with the responsibilities of having good relations with other countries. Exploit pressure points on trade, defence and international relations. They need to lose just 1.4% to be out of Parliament.

       Labour will be a very politically correct urban liberal party, with a strong emphasis on identity politics. Target West Auckland and South Auckland to reduce their party vote there by a couple of percent.

       It’s about time RNZ started introducing this person more truthfully.
     • lprent 5.2.2

       20 October 2017 at 10:03 pm

       I agree. DPF’s ideas are those of a loon who appears to want to destroy National. They just open up the way for another political party of the centre-right in the provincial cities because people will demand a choice. After all that is why NZ First is there.

       On your fifth point, the problem is that Green members and supporters simply don’t trust National to deliver on any green initiatives. National has lied and not delivered on almost anything measureable. For instance it simply doesn’t matter if rivers get fenced (there was some research published a couple of weeks ago on that). The unfenced streams means that the water pollution levels keep rising. This is something that PR cannot hide from anyone with even a minimal education in science. National need convince their constituencies to accept some real changes rather than token ones.

       Similarly National need to start actually making policy to deal with the inequality issues rather than trying to deny it by wanking with PR bullshit.

       National mainly did OK this election by scaring migrant communities about cuts in immigration and what it will do with their family migrant status. By next election that will be a non-issue because whatever corrective action that is made to get down to a sustainable level of nett inwards migration will have been done and dusted, and/or the Aussie economy will have revived enough to attract kiwis again.
       • Draco T Bastard 5.2.2.1

         21 October 2017 at 1:26 am

         National need convince their constituencies to accept some real changes rather than token ones.

         national need to persuade their constituents to take personal responsibility for their actions and that’s never going to happen. After all, they don’t take personal responsibility for theirs.

         Similarly National need to start actually making policy to deal with the inequality issues rather than trying to deny it by wanking with PR bullshit.

         And that’s never going to happen either as they’re all about increasing inequality and poverty by making their donors richer.
   • Patricia Bremner 5.3

     20 October 2017 at 11:13 pm

     5 Chris 73 Thanks for the “Heads up”

     However, I think Winston is ahead of you, and he has friends at court!!

     Jacinda is a great communicator!!

     James keeps his word!!

     Your lot don’t stand a snowballs chance in hell!!
   • WILD KATIPO 5.4

     21 October 2017 at 1:56 am

     @ chris73

     Have certain among the National party advisorship been reading Sun Tzu?

     Because that sure as hell reeks of it.

     Unfortunately , … anyone who has read and understood Sun Tzu can also use those same principles back against them…
     • WILD KATIPO 5.4.1

       21 October 2017 at 2:09 am

       Oh ,… and this ,…

       Some things never change throughout the millennia…

       (Audio Book) Sun Tzu’s Art of War: Chapter 13 – Use of Spies – YouTube
       Video for sun tzu book of spies▶ 5:23
       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rjyMAsfoX4
6. Sanctuary 6

   20 October 2017 at 8:08 pm

   It just occurred to me – Winston is 72, Jacinda is 37. What is missing? Boomers. Not only is time up on neoliberalism, but it is game over for the baby boomer Rogernomics generation, who will go down as the most selfish, rapacious and wrecking ever.
   • KJT 6.1

     21 October 2017 at 9:01 pm

     Douglas, and Prebble, was Peters generation, not boomers!
7. Draco T Bastard 7

   20 October 2017 at 8:27 pm

   These City Bus Routes Are Going All-Electric ― and Saving Money

   It’s a $1 million investment upfront per Proterra bus, but “it saves us $1.76 million in diesel fuel savings over 16 years,” he said. On diesel costs alone, that means saving $110,000 a year.

   The average lifespan of a 40-foot diesel bus is about 12 years, or 500,000 miles. Replacing an entire fleet with electric buses is expensive―they cost about $300,000 more than diesel buses―but the research shows it pays off:

   * A single zero-emissions bus is able to eliminate 1,690 tons of carbon dioxide over a 12-year lifespan, the equivalent of taking 27 cars off the road, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

   * Proterra estimates that converting from diesel fuel to its electric 40-foot bus would save $237,000 in maintenance costs over its lifetime, in addition to the savings from not buying diesel fuel.

   * There is also great potential for healthcare savings. According to the Union of Concerned Scientists, diesel-powered vehicles account for nearly two-thirds of all particulate matter emissions from U.S. transportation sources.

   Which is all really important and something that our cities should take into account as they expand bus routes and replace the buses already in use.
   • Patricia Bremner 7.1

     20 October 2017 at 11:15 pm

     Especially for asthmatics.
8. Chris 8

   20 October 2017 at 11:31 pm

   Not one mention of the election result on seven sharp tonight. Incredible. Does Hosking have that much control over the content?
   • Barfly 8.1

     21 October 2017 at 1:05 am

     Probably
   • WILD KATIPO 8.2

     21 October 2017 at 2:23 am

     … ” Does Hosking have that much control over the content? ” ….

     No , but his paymasters obviously do.
9. Et Tu Brute ? 9

   21 October 2017 at 1:27 pm

   I don’t wish to spoil anyone’s day, but have a look at what they call the fifth industrial revolution

   https://s3.amazonaws.com/cbi-research-portal-uploads/2017/09/27101934/industrial_revolution.png

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