Daily Review 23/11/2016

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This provides Standardistas the opportunity to review events of the day.

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85 comments on “Daily Review 23/11/2016”

  1. mickysavage 1

    Apologies for lateness …

  2. adam 2

    Standing Rock, now they blowing arms off. PLEASE be warned, the photo is very stark.

    • Colonial Viper 2.1

      Why on earth doesn’t President Obama intervene in this ongoing disaster?

      • mickysavage 2.1.1

        You have to be joking. Trump has shares in the disaster and is looking forward to profiting from it. Why blame Obama?

        • adam 2.1.1.1

          Actually disagree mickysavage, there is a court ruling that pipe line should stop. They have not and are carrying on. Also many of these police are crossing state lines. So Obama could call a halt to this at any time, leaving aside that it is currently passing through federal land, it being military land.

          No wait, lets not, Obama also has the power to stop it, as commander and chief.

          • mickysavage 2.1.1.1.1

            Im responding to the suggestion that it is all Obama’s fault. I don’t understand the intricacies of what is happening so maybe he should make a stand. I was responding to the implication that Obama is wrong but Trump will fix it. If Obama is on a rocky road to hell over this Trump is sitting down there with a devil suit on and holding a trident …

            • adam 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Fair enough mickysavage.

              I think Obama did good original reaching out to native Americans, but this is more of the same old, same old from the US establishment. It also he has the ability to not only up hold the law, but to intervene via some many avenues -that is frustrating.

              Also with the escalating violence from the police, it is a worry someone has not said stop! I also blame Jack Dalrymple a lot, a hell of a lot actually.

            • Clump_AKA Sam 2.1.1.1.1.2

              Obama spent his whole first term figuring that republicans won’t give him nothing, reps even went as far as not producing a budget, Obama said he’d close gettmo-fail, recall troops- pass, financial reform – fail, jobs growth- pass, so Obamas a 50/50 president. The only reason his D- is talked about, is because it’s so much better than the F under Bush

        • Colonial Viper 2.1.1.2

          Why blame Obama?

          Maybe because this lawless, dangerous mess developed, is ongoing and is escalating under his watch as POTUS?

          • mickysavage 2.1.1.2.1

            Nope it started years before. He should not be blamed for stuff that has been happening for years …

            • Colonial Viper 2.1.1.2.1.1

              Remind me MS how many years has Barrack Obama been POTUS? Since 2009, right? How many years does Obama need to act?

              Don’t give Obama a pass on this long standing festering mess for tribal political reasons.

              • adam

                Come on CV, mickysavage is right. This sort of rubbish has been going on for years, and years. No matter what political party has power.

                • Peter Swift

                  The US would be a radically different place if Obama hadn’t have been cut off at the knees by republicans blocking his every move in congress and the senate.

                  For all the talk about the system failing and people being fed up with stale politics, their lives wouldn’t have been half as bad if they hadn’t voted in tea party, hardliner right wing governors and senators.

                  • Chris

                    Finally a modicum of sense from swift Peter.

                    • Peter Swift

                      It’s always good common sense stuff from me, it’s just you’ve finally found something you can agree with publicly, without fear of getting gang banged by the bigger kids .
                      So well done, for that, at least. lol

                    • Colonial Viper

                      For all the talk about the system failing and people being fed up with stale politics, their lives wouldn’t have been half as bad if they hadn’t voted in tea party, hardliner right wing governors and senators.

                      Blaming the voters? That’s a winning strategy in a democratic system.

                      Face facts. Obama has left the Democratic Party in total disarray, at its weakest state in terms of elected legislators since the 1920s, right from the state level through to federal government.

                      The Republicans now control something like 68 of the country’s 99 state legislatures, and have total control of something like 26 states (state house, state senate and Governor). The Democrats have control of just 7 states.

                      And in just two months, liberals are also going to lose control of the Supreme Court.

                      Absolute Democratic led disaster.

                    • Peter Swift

                      It’s not blaming the voters, it’s holding them accountable to how they voted, and yeah, they did bad, and that’s the only fact worth knowing.

                      You spout on how the republicans control this and that, which absolutely supports my claim the voters got what they voted for. They, like you, don’t want to admit their part in the mess they’re in, especially when they have a lame duck scapegoat at the ready, as is the way with the modern world.
                      Why take responsibility when you can blame someone else? 🙄

                      US voters sh1t lives – Absolutely of their own making.
                      At least with the republicans controlling the holy trinity, you won’t be able to spin/shill your agenda in 4 years time. Blessings wherever you find ’em lol

                    • Colonial Viper

                      The political class and commentariat are going to hold the voters accountable???

                      How fucking moronic and inverted.

                      Cluetip – that’s not how a democracy works, that’s how technocratic totalitarianism works.

                    • Peter Swift

                      It’s all about personal responsibility, comrade, not a student union sponsored slogan contest.

                    • Chris

                      Only a modicum of sense, big boy. The Republicans were responsible for only some of what Obama didn’t do. Most if it was for the same reasons Hillary Clinton lost the election. Creative writing course or not, you really are illiterate. Learn to fucking read.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      It’s all about personal responsibility, comrade, not a student union or foreign sponsored slogan contest.

                      But I haven’t seen you advocating any “personal responsibility” for the shitty out of touch constantly losing coastal elite focussed Democratic Party leadership team.

                    • Peter Swift

                      I’m as illiterate as you are a great thinker. lol

                    • Peter Swift

                      “But I haven’t seen you advocating any “personal responsibility” for the shitty out of touch constantly losing coastal elite focused Democratic Party leadership team.”

                      Yep, and Vivian is a total bastard. Right on, Rick. 🙄

                    • Peter Swift

                      “But I haven’t seen you advocating any “personal responsibility” for the shitty out of touch constantly losing coastal elite focussed Democratic Party leadership team.”

                      Yep, and Vivian is a total bast*rd. Right on, Rick 🙄 lol

                    • Chris

                      The great thinker who says Obama was one of the greatest leaders the US has ever had. Yeah, extra-judicial killings, corporate puppet. Shove one of your pathetic lols up your arse.

                    • Peter Swift

                      “The great thinker who says Obama was one of the greatest leaders the US has ever had. Yeah, extra-judicial killings, corporate puppet. Shove one of your pathetic lols up your arse.”

                      I wrote I can’t recall a president better than Obama, can you? Certainly not either Bush, or Clinton, not Reagan, Carter, nor Ford or Nixon.
                      Perhaps you could stop acting like a chided child and think about the implications of what you’re actually meaning when you write such guff.

                      But if you think any of those presidents were better than Obama, so be it, I’m not defeated by a difference of opinion. Just have the nads to go ahead and state it, in public, for all to see and laugh at. lol

                    • Peter Swift

                      “But I haven’t seen you advocating any “personal responsibility” for the shitty out of touch constantly losing coastal elite focussed Democratic Party leadership team.”

                      Yep, and Vivian is a total bast*rd. Right on, Rick. 🙄 lol

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Obama oversaw the decimation of his party at every level of government. Most of his executive order legacy as President is going to be cancelled by the end of January and the guts of Obamacare put in the deep fryer by mid year.

                      Yes, a great President.

                      Meanwhile, here is Obama on the Fallon show saying that Trump will never ever be President.

                    • Peter Swift

                      And Vivian is still such a bast*rd. Thanks for that, Rick 🙄 lol

                      America would be much better off if it wasn’t for your right wing republicans in congress and the senate. Fact.
                      Blame the bogey man Obama, like you and US voters have been taught to, but that’s your limitation and your complex, not mine.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Hillary Clinton won a pathetic ~300 out of the more than 3,000 counties in the USA.

                      The Democratic establishment backed the ultimate status quo candidate in a change election year.

                      The Democrats are now at a 90 year low in terms of elected legislators and have effectively lost control of every single arm of the US government: executive, congress and judiciary.

                      And you’re still blaming the public as being the problem?

                      No wonder the Dems got reamed.

                  • One Two

                    “The US would be a radically different place…..”

                    “…their lives wouldn’t be half as bad if they hadn’t. …”

                    Speculation is rife, but that’s all it is…

                    Speculation!

                    • Peter Swift

                      And it would, on both counts, chump 🙄
                      Go play your arse lick games with people who have the patience and tolerance for misinformed halfwits and the slogan driven enlightened.

                      Spare me the inner guilt of having to dismiss you as yet another afflicted inconsequential nothing.
                      That’s harsh, but you won’t get it anyway, so all good. 🙂

            • marty mars 2.1.1.2.1.2

              Yep the destruction of indigenous rights is a long term project. Just as here we can look at most political parties being implicated in the loss of rights so it is in the US. It is incorrect to blame an individual for the issue. We can say that any fixes have fallen short and responsibility there is obvious.

              Indigenous rights activists know this and fight on here there and everywhere.

      • adam 2.1.2

        Indeed why has he not? And why has your boy not said anything?

      • swordfish 2.1.3

        “Why on earth doesn’t President Obama intervene in this ongoing disaster ?”

        Counterpunch
        November 23, 2016
        Buying Silence: Why So Many Democrats are Mute About Standing Rock

        The response from the … Obama Administration to what has been occurring at Standing Rock has left a stain on the end of President Obama’s second presidential term. Despite visiting the Standing Rock reservation in 2014 and affirming his commitment to Native American rights, his administration has remained neutral amid reports for weeks of abuses towards the water protectors.

        Most politicians have remained silent or neutral on the Dakota Access Pipeline. Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) who has claimed to be Cherokee, said she opposes the pipeline when questioned by a supporter, but has avoided making any public comments on the issue. Hillary Clinton issued a neutral, meaningless statement after protesters sat in her campaign headquarters demanding action. Since her defeat to Donald Trump, she has refrained from devoting any effort to addressing the Dakota Access Pipeline. Democratic Party leaders in the Senate, including Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, have ignored the issue.

        This is likely because the Dakota Access Pipeline is being funded by some of the most prolific donors to the Democratic Party. Sunoco Logistics Partners is set to acquire Energy Transfer Partners, the company constructing the pipeline, while Sunoco will oversee its operation. The owners of the company primarily consist of Wall Street firms, including Goldman Sachs.

        Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer has been one of the top recipients of campaign donations from Wall Street, and he has encouraged Wall Street firms to spread their donations to other Democrats. After the 2008 economic recession, Schumer received 15 percent of Wall Street donations to the Senate in 2009, nearly twice as much as any other Senator. “Wall Street welcomes expected Chuck Schumer promotion,” read a CNN headline from 2015 immediately following Reid’s announced retirement.

        Phillips 66, who have financed 25% of the Dakota Access Pipeline project, is primarily owned by billionaire Warren Buffett’s holding company. Buffett actively campaigned for Hillary Clinton this past presidential election, and has made large donations to Clinton, Obama, and other Democrats over the past several years.

        In December 2015, congressional leaders rescinded a 40-year-ban on oil exports, increasing the potential profits the Dakota Access Pipeline could yield its investors if government officials don’t intervene. Based on their slow reaction so far, and the Democratic Party establishment progressively favoring its corporate and wealthy donors, that window of opportunity for the Obama Administration and top Democrats to step in before Trump enters the White House is rapidly closing.

  3. We have just moved into our tiny house. 2 adults and 9 and 2 year olds a dog and cat.

    I really wondered how my head would cope. It is awesome. Think, if you are watching a movie then the rest of the big house is empty and unused but not for us. Mentally it is about being mindful and present. It may not be for everyone but imo it is future proofing the kids and us.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      Sounds like an excellent set up. I cannot stand those ridiculous huge new 350m2 houses with 2 people living inside them.

    • Wonderful to hear, marty. I wish you and your whanau all the best in your marvelously modest home. Please keep us up to date with how your cosy life goes and flows.

    • mauī 3.3

      Good on you, sounds like a fun project. Can I be nosy and ask the square metreage?

      • marty mars 3.3.1

        2.7 wide 7 m long 4.25 high. Like a bus without a motor sort of – road legal as in towable with vehicle. We do have a shed and another structure so the tiny house is the heart of the zone. it is new so that is nice.

        • mauī 3.3.1.1

          That’s impressive, less than 21m ground floor space. Great that it’s portable too could be very handy.

        • James 3.3.1.2

          I couldn’t live in that – it would drive me bonkers.

          But have watched a few documentaries on tiny living and think it’s a fantastic idea for those who want to give it a crack.

          I know some councils are a bit anti – but they need to get on board – there are a lot of people who this appeals to and it should be encouraged.

          It’s a hell of a jump and commitment. But bloody good on you.

          Hope it goes really well and you are happy there.

        • One Two 3.3.1.3

          Good on you Marty Mars and family. Excellent initiative and showing another way…

          All the best

        • Ad 3.3.1.4

          Crikey.
          Gutsy move there Marty.

        • James 3.3.1.5

          I guess that being on wheels this will add you to the homeless figures ?

        • Molly 3.3.1.6

          Fantastic Marty. All the best to you and your whanau.

    • mickysavage 3.4

      On ya Marty. I have been seriously thinking of a tiny house for a while but my beloved is not so keen …

      • adam 3.4.1

        Go small, easier to clean and heat. For me the clean bit is a big plus.

        Plus added bonus, you get uncluttered, because you have to.

      • Rosemary McDonald 3.4.2

        Cleaning 14 square metres as opposed to 140 square metres….no brainer!

        A surprising number of families raising 3+ offspring in 10 x 2.3 metre buses…they make it work.

        Onya marty mars.

  4. pat 5

    k…so why am i (or we) in moderation?

    • lprent 5.1

      You probably have a login using the same “email”. There is a new security protocol that treats comments for emails with logins as being suspicious.

      I will check

  5. The Chairman 6

    “The safety of Wellingtonians should come before a $120 million film museum and $90 million set aside for the airport runway extension.”

    Councillor Pannett agreed that funding for the reservoir should come before funding for the runway extension, putting her at odds with recently-elected mayor Justin Lester.

    When contacted by Newshub, Mr Lester refused to comment other than to say the reservoir was a “priority”.

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/new-wellington-reservoir-must-be-priority-after-quake—councillor-2016112221

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