David Parker live here Sunday

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David Parker will be joining us here live on Sunday at 3pm. A post will go up Sunday around 2 for questions, as usual this will be strictly moderated. David writes…


Thanks for the opportunity to join a Standard Q&A. Really looking forward to hearing from you.

I’m happy to chat about any questions and I’m really keen to hear from you about my belief that the way back for Labour is to focus on economic fairness for working New Zealanders. When working New Zealanders succeed they are proud to look after the vulnerable. It’s about working to ensure everyone’s getting a fair go.

And this is about us agreeing a central purpose to unite us all. My experience is that unity between members, Caucus and the Party is the cornerstone to re-engaging working New Zealand. That’s what’s needed to get confidence, trust and votes back.

34 comments on “David Parker live here Sunday”

  1. r0b 1

    Please note that this is not the post to ask questions for David – check back Sunday around 2…

  2. Lanthanide 2

    I hope we get a good 2-3 hours this time. 1 hour just isn’t enough to have a proper conversation about anything.

    • swordfish 2.1

      “the way back for Labour is to focus on economic fairness for working New Zealanders. When working New Zealanders succeed they are proud to look after the vulnerable.”

      Reminds me a little of Pagani’s “Only when we do that job properly (representing working people) do we win the trust of people to increase benefit levels, because another Labour principle is compassion.”

      Something just a little patronising and paternalistic underlying these statements. Welfare as a kind of Christian charity depending on a precarious/fickle societal generosity rather than being a fundamental and universal right.

      Can we take it as read that Josie Pagani and Phil Quin are advisors to Parker and the Right Bloc in caucus ?

      (Oops, sorry, Lanth. Wasn’t meant to be a reply to you)

      • wekarawshark 2.1.1

        Yep. I wanted to ask Parker how long benes and other ‘vulnerable’ people have to wait. Are we talking one term? A decade? A generation?

        My problem is I just don’t believe it. I was kind of tempted when DC and AL said it, but hearing pretty much the same thing from a man who thinks that we should have discrimantory welfare at the end of our lives makes me mightily suspicious. It further entrenches another layer of class system in NZ, and worse it means that the working poor can be encouraged to blame down instead of up.

        A compassionate party would see all NZers are deserving of fairness from the get go. Not saying oh you lot over there, you can just sit in the shit until these other people over here decide you are worthy. FFS.

        This I cannot forgive – if neoliberal Labour has its way, by the time the shit hits the fan re AGW/PO/GFC, NZ will be too far gone down the selfish track and our chances at doing the right things because they’re right will be so much more seriously eroded.

        • Lanthanide 2.1.1.1

          ” but hearing pretty much the same thing from a man who thinks that we should have discrimantory welfare at the end of our lives makes me mightily suspicious.”

          So you’re advocating for the abolition of superannuation, so that there is no discriminatory welfare “at the end of our lives”?

          • weka 2.1.1.1.1

            Given we had a discussion bout this recently I will take your comment as a deliberate misrepresentation of what I just said, thus 🙄

            • weka 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Btw, when you run that TINA shit, it just as easily applies to treating benes as third class citizens for whom different rules apply. That’s why I don’t trust Parker.

            • Lanthanide 2.1.1.1.1.2

              Giving money to some people and not others by definition is discriminatory. I can only assume that you being “mightily suspicious” of someone who wants to keep superannuation, that you are against the policy and want to abolish it.

              • blue leopard

                That is the utterly bizarre type of ‘logic’ that NZ seems to be running on these days.

                Addressing discriminatory results is not discriminatory – far from it

                Or let me put that in a simpler form:

                Addressing unfairness is not unfair

                It is not that difficult to understand is it?

  3. Craig Glen Eden 3

    “agreeing on a central purpose to unite us” we in labour have had this for years we dont need to find anything new david Parker. We just need a Caucus that will be disciplined and do the job members have elected them to do, operate in the parties/memberships best interest instead of all your stupid infighting and media leaking. I cant wait for these idiots to have to face members.

  4. finbar 4

    Well are they not going in that direction.They have dumped the one that was going to put a rocket underneath them Cunliffe.The caucus should be feeling pretty smug now.How to control Mahuta.simple look at her,what chance has she got.

    No unity,has this collar and tie hopeful!s got,just more do as we say.

    Does anyone have the time dates and venues of this upcoming road show.

  5. Clemgeopin 5

    Unity? Was Parker fully loyal to his leader? If not, he deserves no support. If yes, why did he lose confidence in Cunliffe as articulated in public on TV straight after the election thus stabbing him hard, designed to kill?

    • Maybe because after delivering the worst Labour result since the 1920s, David Cunliffe had all the self-awareness of a goldfish?

      I think Cunliffe had a hard time. People were not loyal to him. But as soon as he strode onto the stage to give his concession/victory speech, he just went completely into the realm of absurdity. I’m not surprised Parker lost confidence in his ability to stay in touch with reality.

      • finbar 5.1.1

        Not at all.The caucus kitchen has been sharpening its knives for Culiffe,and the sparks have even got the sharpeners freinds running for cover.

        The only contender for this race to have put themself up for election and won their seat,is Mahuta,and like the blooded body of Cunliffe ,it also won its seat.

      • Clemgeopin 5.1.2

        You make a fair point, but I am not sure if what you say is fully valid. Obviously you would have liked a different speech. Take a look at this video of part of the speech as well as the answers he gave the media straight after that. I actually think he did well and answered honestly. (I did not hear all of his speech and would appreciate a link if any of you have it).

        • Colonial Rawshark 5.1.2.1

          Cunliffe’s speech was fine. A touch defiant perhaps – but entirely suitable to his character and determination.

          • Disraeli Gladstone 5.1.2.1.1

            I think Cunliffe was fine before and after his speech (especially in the face of one reporter downright lying saying that Ardern was out on the current vote), but his speech wasn’t a touch defiant, it was a call to arms to defend his leadership.

            And on election night, after plunging to record lows, it was not the time for that speech. When he resigned and called for the leadership election, that was the time for a fist-pumping speech.

            • Olwyn 5.1.2.1.1.1

              If people were already doing the numbers before the election, as has been claimed by several people, then that speech will have been somewhat strategic. He will have been letting people know that he wasn’t going to roll on the floor weeping while they slipped an unopposed leader into place.

              • Clemgeopin

                +1. Bingo.
                That seems more plausible than anything else. I think you have nailed it correctly.

              • Oh, no doubt it was strategic decision.

                Unfortunately, it was a strategic decision in the same vein of King Charles disbanding parliament, Churchill’s invading Gallipoli, or the time Lord Cardigan’s thought it was just best to follow orders.

                • Olwyn

                  That depends on the result he had it mind, what it was an how well he achieved it. If his intention was that the leader of Labour should be approved by the party, then his speech arguably contributed toward gaining that result.

          • Clemgeopin 5.1.2.1.2

            Perhaps he was overwhelmed with the loss and shocked at the unexpected result after having worked EXTREMELY hard under VERY DIFFICULT circumstances for eleven harrowing months with constant attacks, lies, spins, nastiness and continuous pressure from the media and the other enemies as well as from ‘friends’. may be that is what made him a defiant in his concession speech rather than give a traditionally expected humble and sad speech with tears (Helen, English?) and curses (Bolger). I actually admire Cunliffe’s good grace and patience under such trying conditions. I don’t believe any other leader of the opposition was ever subjected to that level of constant attacks, most of which were completely unfair.

          • Clemgeopin 5.1.2.1.3

            I tried on google, but could not get the video of the full speech. Strange!

  6. finbar 6

    Two seats lost,for control outside of Winstons,we.Labour are not that desperate in its last slaughter vote.Why was its slaughter,for idiot, we did not have the majority,is M.M.P.the sore in our division.One on one against our enemy,and they are, the National farm fence leaners, it may have been a diffrent fought war result.Not anymore,Labour have lost their war setting of winning,looking for the same allies as those farm fence leaners.

  7. ankerawshark 7

    Just out of interest does anyone have a link to dC election loss speech. I was watching tv 3 (serves me right) and part way through it they cut to Mathew Hooton, bleating on about “Cunliffe must resign!”

  8. cd someone ask parker how he will maintain the levels of excitement he generated in that debate this morn..?

    ..won’t he burn out..?

    ..and wonderful how he brushed aside mmp..with his brave (if delusional) rallying cry of taking the party back to 40%..(!)

    ..and a stout defence of his pension-raising policy etc.

    ..there’ll be no ‘review’ there..

    ..full steam ahead..!

    ..fuck the icebergs..!

    ..(fucken hubris on a stick..)

    • Ergo Robertina 8.1

      Parker said this morning on Q and A that ‘normal New Zealanders’ are ashamed to say they vote Labour, which is perceived as being ‘more there’ for the vulnerable than workers.
      This is a party clearly moving to the right. Mahuta is the only one who appears to have integrity.
      Who made more people ‘vulnerable’? Labour did, following its ‘normal’ monetarist policies. It is a normal and expected outcome of Rogernomics, and Parker is simply dogwhistling. Disgraceful.

    • greywarshark 8.2

      40% for Labour, sounds like a strawman argument of fallacious unreasoning to me.
      Why try to do anything for NZ benefit, when the mindset is getting into and staying in power with a nice salary, and an important walk and ready-made excuses so prevalent, for not getting anything useful done, GFC, ABC, ZYX, DNA…whatever.

      So many Acronyms and Capitals are being used as replacement words so we understand less and less these days. Might as well be a foreign language. C’est la vie.

  9. greywarshark 9

    Ergo Robertina 12.13pm
    Totally agree.

  10. Atiawa 10

    The centre piece of any Labour party policy whether it be the enviroment, the economy, inequality, employment, wages, retirement has to be strengthening the voice of organised labour.
    If organised labour continues having its voice silenced rather than strengthened the pursuit of individualism and its inherent casualty list will grow to the detriment of human kind.
    Parties on the right fear most that coherent unified voice, which is why they have diluted the role unionised labour has played in this country over 100 years & more. If any aspiring Labour Party leader thinks or acts contrary to this view, I would suggest they are in the wrong party.
    I am looking forward to David Parkers views on whose interests he represents and how he intends pursuing them because the last thing we need is more benevolent, crumb sharing policies we have had from the party in recent times.

    • Clemgeopin 10.1

      Very good points. Ask him that.
      I am awaiting the link for today’s Q and A. Should be up soon.

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    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
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  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
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  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
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  • Not impressed
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
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  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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