Democratic burn

Written By: - Date published: 12:37 pm, February 21st, 2018 - 21 comments
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21 comments on “Democratic burn”

  1. JohnSelway 1

    Let’s see how far Trump gets with his bump-stock ban. I’m guessing like everything guns (and everything Trump) – this will go fucking nowhere

    • AsleepWhileWalking 1.1

      Seems like it would be easier to print a bump stock than a gun.

    • NZJester 1.2

      If it does fail it will be because they tack on a rider that the Democrats simply can not vote for. Then he will blame them for lack of Gun Control. That is what the Republicans do. Republicans love popular stuff like this to act as trojan horses for other policies that only their rich donors want. They have no care if it fails or not, only if they can get a lot of riders on it.

      • JohnSelway 1.2.1

        Seems like their MO – bump stock ban with a rider giving some ridiculous tax break to someone who doesn’t need ot

  2. Kevin 2

    All those same Americans who are anti-gun, join the NRA.

    Change THOSE fuckers from within, and the rest will come naturally.

    • arkie 2.1

      72 percent of NRA members support mandatory background checks in 2012. Nothing has happened there. The NRA lobbying is driven by the weapon manufacturers.

    • McFlock 2.2

      That seems to be how the NRA became opposed to gun control in the first place.

      The NRA actually sponsored gun control legislation until its 1977 convention, when a coordinated move by activists changed the direction and leadership in one fell swoop.

      I suspect that if they keep enabling enough baby-killers, the NRA might see that again.

    • NZJester 2.3

      The NRA in the US gets very little money from its official on paper members and they get little say in its policies. Most of the funding for the NRA comes from gun manufacturers using them as their personal lobby group to those in the US Government.
      Apparently, there is also credible evidence that the Russians used the NRA to funnel money into the Trump campaign and something that is meant to be illegal.

  3. paul andersen 3

    nra should be recognized for what it is. a terrorist group.

  4. mac1 4

    What I heard on the radio news was Trump saying he would ban for ‘illegal weapons’ the sale of devices that turned them into machine guns.

    Nothing about legal weapons, whatever they are.

  5. Phil 5


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  6. Ad 6

    Pretty closely related in my view to the decline of the Social Democrats in Germany.

    This is a pretty tart critique of how lazy and cosy their appear, how out of touch they have become to their previously loyal base, and augurs darkly for future polling in their new coalition under the redoutable survivor Angela Merkel:

    The Alternative For Germany has now eclipsed the Social Democrats in recent polling, and I thank my lucky stars that the New Zealand Labour Party found the leader that they needed and didn’t end up in this state.

    • dukeofurl 6.1

      The Left of the SPD split off to the join the PDS to form Die Linke.
      Thats why you would see AFD with strong vote where the DL is split with SPD

      If you combine the votes for SPD , Die Linke and Alliance 90/Gruen you get 38.6.

      The Conservative ‘Union’ partys ( CDU and CSU) come to 33% of the last election

      • Ad 6.1.1

        That makes me just melancholic when compared to the broad left fractioning here over the last 25 years.

        Only a new and truly outstanding leader will help them up now.

        • dukeofurl

          For obvious reasons, I dont think the germans, especially the SPD put too much hope on some dynamic ‘leader’ who will solve all their problems.
          A version of France’s Macron coming from the left to straddle the centre. Nein ,

  7. NZJester 7

    If you are an American citizen and you want your democracy back you should be looking at the real bi-partisan group Wolf Pac. They are apparently made up of people from both parties trying to get money out of American Politics by passing a new amendment to the US constitution.
    Didn’t you have the war of independence because of taxation without representation? At the moment unless you are a big Multi-National you are paying taxes without true representation. But then most of the Multi-Nationals are not really paying any real amount of taxes and getting all the representation.

  8. Sparky 8

    So politics in the US is a mess. When notable US uni’s calls you an oligarchy not a democracy you know you are in trouble.

    That’s in large part due to the domination of corporations in US society. If you need an example of that these recent headlines give some insight:

    Now the lovely people in most of our delightful Labour led coalition will give big corporations something similar under the CP-TPP. Are we going to become a South western Pacific equivalent of the USA or maybe Hawaii…….?? How about Mexico under NAFTA??

    Suffice to say it aint looking good and under MMP dealing with disappointed voters is not as easy as it is under other systems as Merkel and co is finding out…….

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