Dirty Filthy Red Herring

Written By: - Date published: 10:54 am, September 1st, 2014 - 104 comments
Categories: john key, Judith Collins, Media - Tags: , ,

So Judith Collins is gone. But she’s gone on the flimsy basis that Cameron Slater mentioned her in an email. She isn’t gone because of any revelations contained in Nicky Hagers’ book. I’m picking that Cameron Slater was indeed just ‘talking up a big game’ and leveraging off her name in that email. In other words, I’m picking that Collins had bugger all to do with any campaign against Adam Feeley, and that and all the Hotchin stuff was ‘Whale’ and ‘Cactus’ essentially ‘freelancing’. And I’m picking that Key knows that.

So now Key runs some inquiry. Collins is vindicated. Key gets to suggest that as Collins didn’t do ‘a’ as claimed in an email by Cameron Slater, then it follows that Collins also did not do ‘b’, ‘c’ or ‘d’ as claimed on the basis of other emails from the same Cameron Slater. In other words, he gets a shot at reinforcing any doubt he has already cast with regards the substance of the allegations in ‘Dirty Politics’

I don’t think it will work. But even so, Key gets to slip off the hook and  National get to improve their re-election prospects to the extent that any distractions to do with Collins or who-ever get pursued.  So I find myself hoping that people and media stay focussed and don’t go off chasing filthy red herrings. The big fish is sitting ‘over there’. And the big fish only gets snagged by dint of the revelations around the release of that IOA on Goff. And that relies on the extent to which the substantive revelations in Hagers book are pursued and followed through on.

104 comments on “Dirty Filthy Red Herring”

  1. Tracey 1

    I agree.

    He also has iain rennie saying collins was always positive about feeley.

    Key is only do an enquiry on this narrow point cos he knows the deck is stacked in his favour.

    Leaking a name for public bullying, and the rachel pullar stuff, knowing police evidence was being wrongly released and doing nothung, are much bigger things

    • weka 1.1

      Mike Williams, fwiw, said this morning that convention or rules (he was unclear) dictate that the govt can’t do anything at this time without support from the other parties (something like that), and thus Key would need to run an inquiry that the opposition agreed to. Does that make any kind of sense?

      • Lanthanide 1.1.1

        Mai Chen said pretty much the same thing on MR.

        Actually she thinks it should wait until after the election, but if it is to be done now, then it should be at arms length from the government which means a Royal Commission, because any other type of inquiry would allow the government to sack the person carrying it out, as well as set the terms of reference.

        • disturbed 1.1.1.1

          Yes Mai Chen said all that to a tee, and a totally independent Judge should be overseeing the while process, and judiciary must be used to mange the event correctly. ( a royal commission enquiry) .

      • Tracey 1.1.2

        Yes. And it is unheard of to cobble together terms of reference in two days.

        • Kiwiri 1.1.2.1

          It is just plainly wrong and deeply repugnant to engineer a stunt by instigating an inquiry when we are 2 days away from the start of advance voting and only14 working days to go before Polling Day.

          This far in during the Pre-Election Period (we are almost on the eve of the voting period!!!) and a political party in government is using public officials to set up a ruse to exculpate the party’s politicians?

          This is just so very very wrong.

        • David H 1.1.2.2

          Looks like anything that can be done to bury this, is being done. Unfortunately I have no faith in the MSM. They will just be like little puppies wanting a pat on the head for doing a good job.

  2. Lanthanide 2

    “I’m picking that Collins had bugger all to do with any campaign against Adam Feeley”

    Stuff.co.nz is reporting that Collins released an OIA to embarrass Feeley in record time of 2 days. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10444702/Judith-Collins-office-made-haste-on-OIA

    Definitely smoke here.

    Dimpost has an article on it: http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2014/09/01/new-shit-has-come-to-light/

    • weka 2.1

      “Definitely smoke here.”

      I agree, and I think Bill is right too. The focus needs to be kept on Key, as PM. So everything about the SFO issue needs to be brought back to him. And reminding everyone about the SIS issue.

    • David H 2.2

      I don’t think she had much to do with the campaign. But she is definitely complicit in the early release of the OIA’s.

      • Lanthanide 2.2.1

        Being aware of the campaign, and then expediting the release of something that would embarrass him, when she is the minister in charge, makes her part of the campaign.

  3. Anne 3

    The Jackal has it sussed – see in Other Posts column.

    • Tracey 3.1

      Cant disagree with that column Anne

    • Bill 3.2

      If that was the correct post I just read, I’d have to disagree with where attempts are made to tie what Cactus and Whale were doing to Collins and Key. As I say in the post, in this instance they were acting alone (so far, that’s confirmed by the latest ‘whaledump’) and not as a part of the PM offices’ smear team or any smear/black ops connected to Nat Party stuff.

      That can’t be emphasised enough insofar as this whole pile of shit is being put out there to vindicate Collins and undermine allegations made in Hagers’ ‘Dirty Politics’.

      • Tracey 3.2.1

        But the point is Bill, Key has not moved to distance himself from the kind of behaviour slater and odgers indulge in. Thats tacit approval. From a PM! its more than unseemly.

      • weka 3.2.2

        “As I say in the post, in this instance they were acting alone (so far, that’s confirmed by the latest ‘whaledump’) and not as a part of the PM offices’ smear team or any smear/black ops connected to Nat Party stuff.”

        Are you suggesting that there should be no investigation into Collins’ involvement (or non-involvement)? Are you that sure? Why?

        • Bill 3.2.2.1

          Yes, I’m that sure. Call it a hunch. Have the investigation though. But be aware that it’s ‘a have’ in relation to any National Party involvement (there is none) and a ploy to make them look kinda okay in the public eye. And see that scurrilous Hager bloke…?

  4. Kat 4

    Red Herring in this instance is another description for subverting the course of justice. John Key et al should be held accountable under section 116 of the Crimes ACT.

    Cunliffe is correct in proposing the ninth floor be treated as a crime scene.

  5. just saying 5

    Yeah,
    I think it highly likely that Cactus Kate was being supremely loyal to the right in handing over that email. She didn’t want to do more damage. I think this is a clever stunt. I’d love to be proved wrong.
    I think this gambit of Slater’s to complain about Key to the Privacy commissioner is also damage control for the interests of the right. Make it look like he’s gunning for th PM, but lo – no new evidence comes to light.

    Don’t know what the hell is going on with Hooten though.
    He was on the verge of tears in his rant yesterday and it’s almost impossible to feign that kind of emotion.

    I agree that the left needs to keep its eye on the ball and guard against being manipulated.

    • weka 5.1

      “He was on the verge of tears in his rant yesterday and it’s almost impossible to feign that kind of emotion.”

      Except where you believe your own bullshit. Hooton, master at mixing his spin with enough truth to seem credible.

      • just saying 5.1.1

        I have a comment in moderation which says much the same thing, Weka.
        I don’t know why I’m going into moderation so frequently. I’m trying to be more “regular” in my punctuation.

        • Lanthanide 5.1.1.1

          That punctuation problem is supposed to be fixed.

        • Tracey 5.1.1.2

          Did you misspell hooton, that puts you into moderation

        • Kiwiri 5.1.1.3

          Yeah, limit your punctuated diet and you will have more regular vowel motion on The Standard.

          (ok, this is baaad [dot] [dot] [dot] [dot])

          • weka 5.1.1.3.1

            Punctuation bug is fixed. More likely it’s just the regular kind of random moderation (ie not related to content), or mispelling Hooton’s name.

      • disturbed 5.1.2

        Hooten Had me fooled.

  6. Tel 6

    I agree. This entire past weekend has stunk of damage control the moment Key opened his mouth on Saturday morning. Anyone, especially journalists who buys into a “leaked” email (out of the ninth floor of the Beehive?) should consider a new career taking orders at a drive through fast food joint.

    • Tracey 6.1

      Bear in mind the prime ministers office got odgers email on wednesday. Key didnt “see” it til friday… But joyce was awol last week, strategising?

      At some point key is either a liar or incredibly derelict when it comes to what happens at the prime ministers office. He cant have it both ways.

      • yeshe 6.1.1

        Joyce is resurrected on TV3 news this morning .. his mouth was moving, so you know the rest !

        • Tracey 6.1.1.1

          Thats what made me notice hus total absence from weds last week… I didnt watch him this mrning but expect he bag left blogs and smirked and had to suppress a laugh at some stage

          • karol 6.1.1.1.1

            He was just on about how Hager’s book had not disclosed anything of significance – the email that caused Collins to resign had nothing to do with the book. Basically dissing the book, and all about the government being all cool and positive, for the future…. etc, etc.

            • Tracey 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Glad i saved myself, sorry for you though.

              Sadly the big flaw is the emails that floored collins are the same players in Hagers book.

              No wonder the right dont want to read it

        • disturbed 6.1.1.2

          Glad I didn’t see it he gives me the creeps, remember Grant Robinson/Joyce debate?

      • yeshe 6.1.2

        Tracey .. I think we only know about Wednesday receipt of email via Hooton and no other source ?

        • Matthew Hooton 6.1.2.1

          I never saw it. Just heard a rumour about it

          • tricledrown 6.1.2.1.1

            Machiavellian Henchman
            Yeah Right where’s Ansell now!
            You have no connection to ACT or Odgers!
            Matthew you have been caught up in your own Spin
            Nek minute you think Key is up to his Eyeballs
            Now Key has nothing to do with it!
            Shonkey pythons Lying Circus!

          • Tracey 6.1.2.1.2

            And repeated it, and did interviews on it…

          • David H 6.1.2.1.3

            So as usual Hooton, you spun like a top on the rumour.

    • David H 6.2

      Most of the Jonolists used by the MSM need that sort of career change.

  7. karol 7

    Latest tweets from whaledump:

    First tweet:

    Have you learnt nothing from #DirtyPolitics? @MatthewHootonNZ has no idea what I plan to do. How could he?

    Second tweet:

    There are no rumours. @MatthewHootonNZ made them up to ratfuck Judith Collins. And those reporting his rumours are helping him.

    • just saying 7.1

      Sounds like confirmation that we are being played yet again.
      Hooten must be a gifted actor. Maybe he’s so used to bullshitting that when he’s in full-swing, he actually believes what he is trying to convey.

      It’s worth remembering that most of the major players in this are deeply authoritarian, and they know better than most where the real power lies. When push comes to shove they must know that any and all utu will be paid back at a very high rate of interest over many years.

    • weka 7.2

      Do you know what Rawshark is referring to there? A specific statement from Hooton? I haven’t been following Hooton on twitter…

    • Hanswurst 7.3

      On the face of it, though it’s hard to see how Whaledump could know that for sure. Whaledump’s statement that they had “nothing to do” with the email that was the purported cause of Collins’ sacking doesn’t directly state that they aren’t in possession of said email, but it does very strongly imply it. Assuming that, how can they know what rumours etc. may have been swirling?

      • Lanthanide 7.3.1

        If Whaledump had the email, he would have passed it to Nicky Hager (as Nicky believes he received all of the emails un-redacted or edited, not just some of them). If Hager had it, it would have been in his book. Wasn’t in his book, ergo Whaledump doesn’t have it. This gels with the fact that it was Odgers who sent the email to Fairfax. It’s unclear exactly what path it took to reach the PM’s office.

    • emergency mike 7.4

      Anytime Matthew Hooten says “I’ve been hearing rumours that blah blah,” grab yourself some grains of salt.

  8. ianmac 8

    Funny that earlier this morning I had sent an email to a friend saying that on reflection, I thought that the Collins/Hanover thing is really just a ploy to find Collins innocent knowing that in this case she will be. She must be furious to be thus used but Key is no fool.
    It may backfire however if the awakened media publish the probable feint.
    Agree with Bill and above comments.

  9. emergency mike 9

    I recall watching Key announcing her resignation on Saturday. It struck me that he looked oddly upbeat and bouncy and that it didn’t really match the content of what he was saying. It was more like he was announcing some fun new policy.

    One of the Q+A guests (maybe Hooten?) put it well when they said he looked like a guy who’d just been released from a hostage drama.

    • Lanthanide 9.1

      Smiling assassin.

      Also I think he was just trying to distance himself from it, make like it was no big deal and wouldn’t affect the election etc.

      • Tracey 9.1.1

        and his faux hurt at colmar brunton showing 41% believe he did know about SIS OIA

      • Bill 9.1.2

        Lanth. He has nothing to distance himself from in this instance! Neither he nor Collins had anything to do with any of it. What it will do (when it’s done and dusted) is give him a line in attempts to undermine anything and everything alleged in Dirty Politics…y’know?…so he can slip the hook and take off all smiling and waving.

    • Weepus beard 10.1

      Shows that money changed hands from Hotchin to Slater and Odgers at some point.

      No surprise that Hotchin would do that and there’s still the line that Slater and Odgers were acting independently from Collins and Key. This is the connection that needs to be made.

      • Bill 10.1.1

        Are you suggesting that people waste time seeking a link back to Collins and Key? Why? The whole point of the PM releasing the email pertaining to this, and Collins being so enthusiastic for an enquiry, is because there is no link.

        So…names cleared, people rehabilitated and Hager (or so the hope must be) discredited by extension.

        • weka 10.1.1.1

          Key is repsonsible for the culture that allowed this to happen. I’m still not convinced that Collins had no involvement.

        • Weepus beard 10.1.1.2

          I don’t think it’s a waste of time to try to find out the truth, whatever that might be. There might not be any direct involvement by Collins but if it can be shown she knew of the operation that would be damning evidence that this government is negligent and dangerous.

        • geoff 10.1.1.3

          Bill, why do you give Key so much credit?

          He’s handled it badly and winged it and making massive tactical errors all the way.

          I personally think he is grasping for any straw he can, buying anytime he can to get a breath before this epic kharmic shitstorm completely buries him.

    • Bill 10.3

      Thanks for that karol. Just had a quick look through for any mention of Judith Collins.
      Surprisingly (sarc) …nothing, nada and zip.

      • BM 10.3.1

        You sound disappointed.

        Nothing surprising about Slater though, stunned that Odgers would bother wasting her time in all this nonsense.

        • Bill 10.3.1.1

          Why would I be disappointed? Did you read my post or just go straight to sticking your hand down your excited keyboard pants?

        • Tracey 10.3.1.2

          And yet you continue to visit his site, read and regurgitate. What a guy BM

          • BM 10.3.1.2.1

            I read his site, the guy’s a complete fuck wit though.

            Slater has no shame, I reckon he would pimp out the lord of Darkness if his lordship paid enough.

            Not a lot of ethics there.

            • Tracey 10.3.1.2.1.1

              And so you enable him and provide him with clicks to generate revenue. Grow a pair BM

        • tricledrown 10.3.1.3

          Bygone Menace!
          sounds like you have accepted that Nactional and its cronies have been caught red handed!
          Key Slater Odgers may not be able to travel overseas soon as convictions may stop them gaining entry to Hawaii HongKong etc!
          Maybe that’s why Slater shot through Israel final overseas trip!

    • Tracey 10.4

      In the first file (hanover is this it) is “Dad” a reference to doug graham or john slater, I wonder.

      I cant see anything exciting amongst these.

      John Slater was responsible for bringing Key into politics, is that right?

      • ianmac 10.4.1

        Tracey, I believe it was the dreaded Michele Boag who organised the cull of National MPs in the early 2000s and parachuted Key into his safe electorate seat – I think.

        • Colonial Viper 10.4.1.1

          Sounds right. And who also organised it so that English would be a total fail at the 2002 election – goneburger.

  10. Tom Gould 11

    Was I the only one to hear on National Radio comments by Hooten suggesting the PM’s office tried to get his company banned from undertaking a contract with CERA in Christchurch? Meddling directly in a commercial government contract because they had a snitch on the company boss? Is it just me, or is this a really serious matter? Or is this kind of behaviour just ‘how they roll’ in the Key administration?

    • dv 11.1

      Yes That sounds like what I heard too.

      • weka 11.1.1

        Yeah Hooton is on a bit of a mission at the moment. There’s more detail in the radiolive session from yesterday (link is in yesterday’s Open Mike I think). It’s not just the CERA one, there are others too apparently. Hard to know what Hooton’s play here is exactly, but I agree that on the face of it it’s a very serious accusation.

        • emergency mike 11.1.1.1

          In spite of it all he’s still saying that National is a better choice for govt than Lab/Greens, and the Key is a good PM but he’s handled this badly. Which makes about zero sense to me.

          It’s almost like he’s positioning himself to enter politics. New ACT leader? Or he’s just spinning himself hard as having nothing to do with these shameful events even though his fingerprints are in it.

          • weka 11.1.1.1.1

            “Which makes about zero sense to”

            Probably because it’s complete nonsense 😉

            Hooton is having a crisis of faith. He probably does believe in some level of ethics, and he obviously is a staunch rightie, but he now finds that he has no-one to vote for because all the right wing parties are ethic-less.

            • Matthew Hooton 11.1.1.1.1.1

              You are in interesting company weka. The Prime Minister also told the press gallery today that I am lying and that I have personal problems. I issued this press statement in response:http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1409/S00028/personal-statement-by-matthew-hooton.htm
              I think the PM was referring to my decision to stop drinking two weeks ago. I will at least have an interesting story at CADS tomorrow!

              • geoff

                It’s certainly making for interesting listening, Matthew.

                What do you think of the use of Whaleoil, et al, by Key and his embracing the two track style politics that Lusk outlined?

                Do you think it is morally unacceptable or are you ok with this ‘anything goes’ system that National have created?

              • One Anonymous Bloke

                Do you think the National Party is going to let you come in from the cold or something Matthew?

                Reminds me of the story of the wannabe gang prospect. He asks if he can go in the pad and is told he has to pass the initiation first: he has to climb in a barrel of waste oil, which he does: he’s then informed that he’s not coming in the pad with that shit all over him.

                Cheers Matthew. You’re covered in it 😆

                • miravox

                  Good analogy OAB.

                  Because Matthew sends out an invoice for every opinion he has, we just need to work out who’s paying for the latest utterances and all will make more sense. It could all be a bit of an ACT.

              • geoff

                Ok listening to your bit on Radiolive now, it’s pretty clear you’re standing on your principles. Good on ya.
                Michelle Boag sure is the ultimate political reptile!

                Here’s the link for anyone interested in hearing the most honest, public, political words I’ve heard from any commentator ever.

                http://www.thepaepae.com/matthew-hootons-assertions-re-the-prime-ministers-office/35076/#more-35076

                Cheers Matthew, new found respect for you.

                • blue leopard

                  NOOOOooooo!

                  Whilst it was very enjoyable to hear Hooton rip into Boag (gee, they are really making Labour’s earlier internal tensions look like child’s play) please take care to be so quick to think Hooton is standing up for principles that you hold.

                  I’ve already shared my thoughts:

                  From Twitter

                  • geoff

                    I dont think he is standing up for principles that I hold, I think he is, to a certain extent, standing up for principles that he holds.

                    I dont agree with him, but I don’t put Hooton in the same category as Boag or the Slaters.

                    He is given to emotional outbursts and those have a quality of honesty that I don’t believe is faked. I could be wrong but I don’t think so.

                    • blue leopard

                      By ‘principles you hold’ I was referring to things like sound democratic principles. Like complete distaste for corruption. It sounded like he didn’t like the corruption initially, yet the issue for him, I believe, is really about jeopardizing National’s chances of winning and some aspect of irritation about being sidelined.

                      After Hooton’s outburst, Boag and Hooton ended up arguing over strategy – not fixing the real corruption.

                    • blue leopard

                      Looks like others have similar reservations to the ones I have.

                      http://thejackalman.blogspot.co.nz/2014/09/matthew-hootons-dirty-tactics.html

                • disturbed

                  Yep, hey Matthew Hooten, can you enlarge on the Steven Joyce interference with your large roading contractor saga? Michelle Boag wouldn’t let you finish.

              • tricledrown

                That would explain some of your manic behaviour!
                Spinning out of control!
                No more beersies with Johnny!
                Brave move to come out no more work for anonymous a/holes!
                AA meetings now time to reexamine how your high flying political spinning is effecting you!
                Maybe a new career for helping political junkies recover from OD’s

              • geoff

                Why do continue to defend John Key though?

                You’re not seeing straight on that one. I think he’s tricked you with the same facade he’s tricked the rest of the country.

              • tricledrown

                Was Hagers book a sobering thought a vector for change!

              • tricledrown

                By the way Matthew now your not drinking it would pay to have a complete physical check up your breathlessness could be the sign of heart failure!
                Their could be a psychological reason for your drinking addiction!
                This is nothing to do with politics but just me reaching out because it takes real guts to come out and say you have given up alcohol!
                Now the real work begins to stay off it!
                I know I was a binge drinker back in the day 24 years ago I gave it away !

    • RedBaronCV 11.3

      On the radio live link. He made I think three allegations of beehive meddling in govt procurement contracts and when Michelle Boag said “beehive is too general” he goes”that one was Steven Joyce’s office”.

      The whole hour is unbelievable radio of Mathew Hooten & Michelle Boag having a go at each other and Duncan Garner making about one comment ‘don’t let me interrupt”. Frankly I’ve never heard anything like it.

  11. Tigger 12

    Why is Rennie running lines on this? He should not have commented about Collins having a positive view of Feenet – it was for Key to defend her, not Rennie.

    • Once Was Tim 12.1

      +1.

      Such is the state of our Public Service leadership. It’s not just PSB that needs a bloody good shakeup, but SSC as well – they’ve been the ‘enablers’ of public service corporatisation and its politicisation and lack of accountability.

  12. blue leopard 13

    Great press release from the Greens:

    “A Royal commission of inquiry is the only option for Key, as the other types of inquiries available to him are either established by Cabinet or a Government Minister. This is too close to home.”

    More at:

    https://home.greens.org.nz/press-releases/independent-royal-commission-inquiry-only-option-key

    • David H 13.1

      But as usual, TricKey being TricKey, will want to do it his way quick n quiet. Nothing to see here, move along. Backed up by his choir of Hooton Slater and Collins Armstrong Roughan and the rest of the bullshit MSM.

  13. kenny 14

    Why did Cathy Odgers send that letter/email to the beehive? And why does Key believe it?

    Why?

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    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 day ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    3 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    3 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    3 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    3 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
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    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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