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11:58 am, September 5th, 2017 - 15 comments
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As the dust settles and the overwhelming preponderance of experts agree that Steven Joyce’s budget hole claims are fanciful I thought it was time to hop on over to Kiwiblog to see how David Farrar was handling the issue.
It seems that he was trying in a tepid sort of way to support the nonsense that there was actually a financial hole. He had put up a post titled “The 11.7 billion hole“. But knowledgeable commentators not normally sympathetic to Labour questioned the spin contained in the heading and in the article.
How does one get from the justifiable criticisms in the post, to the conclusion that the hole is $11b? The number is made up.
— Graeme Edgeler (@GraemeEdgeler) September 4, 2017
Farrar then amended his post by adding a ? to the title.
In the content of the post he does not address Joyce’s primary claim, that Labour had not allowed for $9.4 billion in funding consequential to various new policies planned to be implemented. Instead he talked darkly about Labour’s inability to hold down spending which is an entirely different issue. And he links to a Hamish Rutherford article that concludes that confusion over the meaning of a phrase rather than a large financial hole is what has happened.
Not addressing the core allegation made by Joyce could be considered an admission by the Government’s chief social media cheerleader and pollster that Joyce and English have got it wrong.
And even the comments showed that even National’s supporters are seeing through the fiction.
Comments like this from m@tt:
The difference being that almost everyone agrees that there is no hole. Even I can see there is no hole.
I’ve changed my mind, Joyce should stay silent for the rest of the campaign, his brain fart is almost, but not quite, as dumb as labour’s HFee crap 9 years ago.
Joyce is the one claiming a hole – that no one else can see.
The only hole is the one failed economics student Steven Leonard Joyce is digging
So not a word about Steven Joyce?
His credibility is in the gutter now.
To be fair to Labour, Joyce did overblow it. He could have just said Labour’s plan assumes no new spending for 3 years and if you believe that you’ll believe anything.
So no hole then. Even Farrar agrees.
At least we’ve put that to bed.
Others came up with this weird conspiracy theory involving BERL without actually addressing the main issue which is whether or not the hole actually exists. But no one tried to defend Joyce’s primary claim.
It seems that apart from Steven Joyce, Bill English and the Taxpayer’s union no one believes that Joyce’s claim about Labour’s financials is true.