Five more unlawful arrests of protesters today

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John Darroch called today to inform me that the police were starting to round up and arrest protesters, and that they had three paddywagons ready. I turned up at the protest 10 minutes later and it was pretty much all over. John D, John Minto, and three others had been arrested, and everyone else seemed too scared and intimidated to continue protesting.

John D says that the arrests started only 10 minutes after the protest began. Media reports suggest that the sound from the protest was barely audible inside the stadium. Police began by warning those with megaphones to stop using them. Then, from John D’s account:

I got on a megaphone and explained to the police that my understanding was that two recent court decisions protected our right to protest loudly including using a megaphone in a public place. I talked about Rees v Police where a friend (Rochelle/Rocky) had been charged with disorderly conduct for using a megaphone in the CBD and had on appeal won a clear victory. I also made reference to the recent Brooker case which went all the way to the supreme court. I invited the Sergeant in charge of the protest to come over and explain why using a megaphone was disorderly and otherwise based on my understanding of the law I would continue to use the megaphone. All this was clearly audible to the cops who started smiling and laughing as I continued my explanation. On two other occasions I attempted to talk to the senior officer asking him why we could not use Megaphones.

Police arrested John Minto for using a megaphone, and two others for blowing whistles. John D then climbed a tree with his megaphone and began chanting, having been given no explanation as to how it was unlawful.

An officer got a boost up and after struggling for a minute or two made it to the branch I was on. After being asked to come down I passed my megaphone down and jumped down. At no stage was I asked to stop making noise, I was not told to stop using my megaphone, I was only asked to come down ‘For your own safety’.

There is something quite ironic about John D being arrested for climbing a tree to use a megaphone, when Wellington police let him go after he dropped a banner from four stories up the MFAT building only a couple of weeks ago.

One of those arrested is a young woman who has just finished her law degree but hasn’t yet been admitted to the bar. Of course wanting to be a lawyer she is very careful not to get herself into trouble. She was arrested for blowing a whistle, and as she says, the arrest was unlawful because while they had warned those using megphones to stop, they gave her no warning to cease and desist.

I went down to the Auckland Central police station to wait for John D and the others, and a couple of hours later they were released with bail conditions preventing them from being within 500 metres of the protest location. This is a clear breach of the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990, and the precedent set in Bradford v Police [1995] regarding bail conditions.

We then had issues trying to get peoples’ bikes back from where they were chained up near the tennis stadium. A friend and I who weren’t arrested had to walk backwards and forwards 500 metres to get the bikes belonging to those who couldn’t pick them up themselves without breaching bail.

Finally, a few of us came back to my place for a very late lunch and a debrief. I made us all bread and soup, and unfortunately, the young woman who was arrested for blowing a whistle went into anaphylactic shock, as it turns out there were pumpkin seeds in the bread that she is allergic to. We rushed her to the hospital where she is still now under observation. On my way home, I measured the distance between the hospital and the tennis stadium. It seems the young woman is breaking the law and breaching bail by being in hospital.

Today’s events were chillingly similar to those I experienced in 2005 protesting outside a broiler industry conference (events that led to the Rees v Police decision in the High Court, reaffirming the right to use a megaphone at a protest). The police, using their standard unlawful tactics to shut down a protest, arrest the leaders / organisers or those they think are the leaders / organisers. This is done because generally speaking, the rest of the protesters then get scared and comply with unreasonable demands.

At the broiler conference (a week long event), on the Wednesday the police decided arbitrarily that they had had enough. They arrested two protesters (and core organisers) at the morning protest, one for banging on drums, the other for filming. Police gave them a bail condition that they couldn’t go within 500 metres of the hotel they were protesting at, and made their court date the following week so they wouldn’t have a chance to argue the conditions in front of a judge until the protests were over.

That evening, I was arrested for chanting on a megaphone. I was warned to stop about 10 times, but continued as I was sure I wasn’t doing anything unlawful. I was then arrested, and the protest shut down as all the core organisers were now gone. At the police station, they tried to give me the same bail condition and a court date the following week. I told them that I wasn’t going to sign the bail form unless they either removed the condition, or changed my court date to the following day so I could argue the condition in front of a judge. They refused, so I told them I wouldn’t sign the form. They said that meant I wouldn’t get bail, and I said that was fine, I was going to court the next day one way or another, and if they kept me overnight they would be forced to take me in front of judge the following morning. They gave in and changed my court date to the following day.

The next morning I had my bail condition dropped at court, and went back to the hotel to continue protesting that evening. Before we began we had a brief meeting across the road, and I told people the police would do the same thing again, and we had a couple of options. We could ignore police warnings to stop, but I said if that option was chosen we needed most people to agree to keep going and be prepared to be arrested. The other option was to all comply with the police unreasonable demands. Everyone said they were prepared to be arrested.

Not long after the protest started, my ex, the spy, was listening to the police scanner for us and heard my arresting officer from the previous night QP (query person) me to find out if I had any bail conditions. He was hoping to arrest me and was disappointed to hear back that my bail conditions were gone. Then, Senior Sergeant Willie Taylor (now inspector) was heard over the scanner instructing his officers (from the Team Policing Unit) to warn people to stop making all noise, and arrest them if they didn’t comply. The police filled up their two paddywagons with people who were only chanting with their voices (the police had stolen our megaphone), and then realised they had no more room to arrest anyone else. The 15 or so people still left kept going and the police had to give in.

I had two pairs of disposable plastic handcuffs put on me so tight that by the time we got back to the Auckland Central police station, I couldn’t feel my hands at all. When I asked Senior Sergeant Willie Taylor to loosen my handcuffs, he swore at me.

At the police station, the regular cops (non TPU) were very annoyed that the TPU had dropped us off and left them to deal with us. As they said, our noise couldn’t even be heard within the hotel, and the TPU were way over the top. They ensured we got processed very quickly and weren’t charged, so we could go straight back up to the hotel again and keep protesting.

Unfortunately, it is very often the case that police actions at protests are designed purely to disrupt our activities, and have very little to do with securing convictions through the courts. In 2007 I was again arrested for using a megaphone, however the police decided to withdraw the charge on the day of the defended hearing. It is very rare for protesters to be convicted in the few cases that actually make it to a full hearing.

122 comments on “Five more unlawful arrests of protesters today ”

  1. Nick C 1

    Go Shahar Peer! I wish her all the best for her semi final tomorrow.

    [rocky: You are most welcome to hold and express that opinion, however I will warn you to keep your comments to the topic of the post. I haven’t said anything about the reason for the protests, as that is irrelevant to my post. My post is about the police actions, and the reason for a protest has no relevance to the way it is dealt with by police.]

    • Nick C 1.1

      Once could argue that the topic of middle eastern conflict has nothing to do with a tennis tournament, but that didnt stop you.

      • rocky 1.1.1

        Since I expect I will get a number of comments along these lines, perhaps I should respond.

        Your comment is ignorant in the extreme, and is very much like those who said the Springbok tour had nothing to do with apartheid.

        It can be argued that an effective way for a country to take a stand against attrocities in another is to stop sporting ties (hence the UAE have refused Pe’er a visa). Likewise, citizens can take a stand by boycotting sports involving such countries.

        It is very little to do with the individual tennis player, however she is not as innocent as many are making out. From wikipedia:

        As a 19-year-old, Pe’er joined the Israeli military, as military service is mandatory in Israel, where she excelled in rifle marksmanship during her elementary combat training.[4] When not abroad participating in tennis tournaments, she spends her mornings working as an administrative secretary for the Israeli military, and her afternoons practicing tennis.

        • Nick C 1.1.1.1

          Ahh, still living in the early 80’s are we Rocky? I think a key difference between the two is that the south african rugby team was picked along racial lines and was thus a part of the system. Shahar got to where she is for no such reason.

          I find it ammusing how you site the United Arab Emirates as a country which has banned Israeli sports players for human rights reasons, when a post on this very blog just a few down decrys human rights (spesifically workers rights) in that country, branding them as using slavery.

          http://www.thestandard.org.nz/the-house-that-slavery-built/

          And you can say that this is nothing to do with the individual tennis player, but at the end of the day she is the one most affected (other than I guess the protesters who were arrested). Also i think TB makes a very good point.

          • rocky 1.1.1.1.1

            Ahh, still living in the early 80’s are we Rocky?

            LOL. I’ve never lived in the early 80s… wasn’t born till ’86! In any case, how does that invalidate my point?

            As for the UAE – being bad in some human rights respects doesn’t mean you’re bad in all. NZ has done some pretty awful stuff in terms of human rights too (think Ahmed Zaoui), but it doesn’t mean we can’t speak out against other human rights abuses.

            but at the end of the day she is the one most affected

            She claims not to be affected. And I didn’t say nothing to do with the individual tennis player, I said very little.

            Also i think TB makes a very good point.

            I can’t be bothered replying to TB’s comment right now – perhaps in the morning (I’m kind of hoping someone else will get in first)!

          • modern 1.1.1.1.2

            Nick C

            Find a sports blog, mate! Maaaate!

            Cos you’re missing the point completely here.

  2. Well the longer she stays in the tournament the more opportunities to protest. So her doing well works best for everyone 🙂

  3. TB 3

    Interesting that the protests appear to have spurred her on.

    On another point regarding protests, when does a noisy protest become criminal? Assuming it is legal for noisy protest to distract the concentration of professional sports people, would it be legal for protesters to distract students sitting an exam?

    Surely the longer the protest continues, the more likely it will move from being a protest to being illegal. Deliberately distracting professional sports people (and also paying spectators) while they are concentrating on their game over a sustained period of time would be considered highly offensive to many reasonable people and surely is likely to become illegal the longer the protest continues. If the protesters contained the noise to between games they could probably continue all day for all I care. However there does become a point where the protest goes from annoying to seriously pissing other people off.

    Is there a point at which the right to protest and “annoy” others become less important tham the right to be left in peace?

    • Marty G 3.1

      “Is there a point at which the right to protest and “annoy’ others become less important tham the right to be left in peace?”

      Of course, the law is all about balance of rights, but that point is not reached in this case. But Rees v Police shows that using a megaphone in a protest does not unjustifibly impede on the rights of others.

      Consider, would you have a cry if some business was advertising for half an hour with a megaphone? No. Have you heard how loud the music coming out of many shops is? What about the noise from professional sporting fixtures that can often be heard miles away?

      So, it’s obviously OK to make substantial noise in commerical pursuit. Now, why should a person exercising their human rights to free speech and political participation have less right to make noise than a business?

    • burt 3.2

      If you come from a past of being persecuted for your race and your religion, then being called racist will spur you on. Call it how you like on who is right and wrong, I’m not well enough informed to take that on but one thing is sure – out of adversity comes great strength. Minto and his half thinking comrades might help propel this woman to great heights.

    • lprent 3.3

      I’d suggest that you read the Brooker case from my post yesterday. A supreme court judge has been through all of your points and many more that you probably haven’t thought of.

      Essentially you’re wrong according to him, and I’d tend to take his opinion over yours.

  4. John 4

    That last night of the broiler conference was my first arrest, very similar situation to today. I knew the request was unreasonable and unlawful so I kep protesting and was arrested. Just breach of the peace that time though.

    • burt 4.1

      So did you expected this outcome from your actions?

      • rocky 4.1.1

        Seriously Burt, learn to put a sentence together!

        What does expecting an outcome have to do with anything? Being cynical due to the police frequently breaking the law doesn’t put you in the wrong.

      • John 4.1.2

        Yea it was pretty obvious, however I’m not going to comply with illegal orders from the police. An arrest or two to prevent the cops pushing us round whilst unfortunate seems to be what it takes.

        If we obeyed the cops every time they gave illegal instructions not many protests would take place. Unfortunately being a political organiser in New Zealand means constant arrests and harassment for bullshit reasons.

        • jagilby 4.1.2.1

          Pretty quick turn around John from being an AGW disciple to a frothing at the mouth anti-semite.

          Rent-an-outrage anyone???

      • burt 4.1.3

        rocky

        Settle down, John said “I knew the request was unreasonable and unlawful so I kep protesting and was arrested.”

        I’m not arguing that the arrest might have been illegal, I’m asking if John expected to be arrested today even if he believed it was going to be illegally.

        I think John is a big enough boy to take me on if he thinks I’m out of line asking that question.

      • burt 4.1.4

        Sorry John our posts crossed.

        I totally see where you are coming from on the ‘illegal arrest’ angle. If the police are empowered to simply give orders that have no basis in law and arrest us when they are not followed then we truly are a Police state.

        Although I think your target is poorly chosen, I do support you standing your ground on issues you feel strongly about.

        • John 4.1.4.1

          Cool thanks, yea I think targetting an Shahar as an individual is a poor strategic choice, there are many others that are far more culpable than her. There are also targets which are easier for the public to understand with lower chances of being misunderstood.

          That said I think calling for a boycott of high profile Israelis including sporting figures is a legitimate tactic and that todays protest was worthwhile.

          • rocky 4.1.4.1.1

            Well said John 🙂

          • Armchair Critic 4.1.4.1.2

            I must be tired, too, because I think I am agreeing with burt.
            I wasn’t going to comment on this post, but since you brought it up:
            I support your right to protest, I don’t support what the Israeli government is doing in Palestine, I don’t support the police acting illegally and I think you have picked the wrong target, too. In doing so you have made it too easy for people who dislike you to dismiss or discredit you.

        • burt 4.1.4.2

          Arguably in the context of ‘Disturbing the peace’ expecting to be arrested provides the guilty mind. Doing the action that (rightfully or wrongfully) got you arrested (while expecting to be arrested) is the guilty hand.

          lprent, do you have an opinion on this?

          • lprent 4.1.4.2.1

            Yep – you’re arguing that might makes right? That the expectation of an unlawful arrest means that you shouldn’t do a lawful action.

            Do you have an opinion on your ethical standards based on that?

  5. xvx 5

    The arrested law graduate tries to avoid trouble? Really?

  6. tsmithfield 6

    I was interested to know how consistent those of you are who have been protesting against the Israeli player, or complaining about human rights abuses in Dubai.

    Do you refuse to buy products from countries like China where human rights are commonly abused and workers are commonly exploited?

    • lprent 6.1

      Who cares about the player.

      What is annoying me is the police making arrests and charges that they know will not stand up in court. They will either drop them or have them thrown out in an court.

      Whichever way that will have wasted considerable taxpayers funds. What do you think about that?

      The police are using unlawful arrests to stifle protests. What do you think about that?

      Or are you just going to dogwhistle until you have no abilities to protest against anything?

      • tsmithfield 6.1.1

        The reason I asked the question is that it seems to me that the most effective way to get change is to hit a country in the pocket. If protesters really want change in countries such as China etc, then why not take the lead by boycotting their products.

        No need to worry about wrongful arrest by protesting in a completely legal and much more effective fashion as in making a choice not to support these countries economically.

        It wouldn’t surprise me if protesters such as Minto et. al. have as many Chinese made clothes and equipment as anyone.

        • felix 6.1.1.1

          So you’re concerned that you wouldn’t be surprised if something if Minto wasn’t doing something which he might or might not be doing?

          That does sound concerning.

  7. Jenny 7

    Is there a pattern here?

    A huge attempted show trial on trumped up terrorist charges.

    More intrusive spying snooping and monitoring.

    Illegal arrests.

    Need I mention aiding and abetting an indicted Israeli war criminal’s, escape from a District Court ordered arrest warrant, by whipping him out of the country.

    Senior police officers seem to be allowing a right wing anti democratic culture to develop within the force, where ordering illegal arrests becomes unquestioned and acting as a law unto themselves becomes common-place and un-remarked.

    I think that there needs to be an inquiry into these latest dodgy political calls from our police force.

    The shadowy senior officers making these political calls need to be asked to step forward, and asked to account, for their increasingly political and anti-democratic actions and bias.

    • gitmo 7.1

      Ummmm how is after repeated warnings to quiet down and then removing a few dickheads disturbing the peace from Stanley St a “dodgy political calls from our police force” and “increasingly political and anti-democratic actions and bias.”

      • felix 7.1.1

        It’s political because there’s no legal grounds for arrest.

        They arrested people to shut them up.

        You make the point yourself – they were told to quieten down and then arrested because they didn’t.

        You don’t mind because, as you’ve mentioned before, you’re an authoritarian.

      • felix 7.1.2

        Also git, the others have all realised they’re legally wrong with this argument and have moved on to the hilarious “RACIST!” argument.

        See it’s racist because, um, jews and all that.

        • gitmo 7.1.2.1

          It’s political because there’s no grounds for the arrest ?

          Um what ?

          And I don’t mind that they were arrested because on balance they were clearly disturbing the peace as evidenced by the comments from patrons and players at the tournament.

          And you know what most people have the sense to tone it down when the police repeatedly tell you to do so……..bit like hoons disturbing the peace outside a pub yahooing keep doing it and your down to the clink sonny … and good job.

          I think that global Peace and Justice should pop across to the Australian Open and see how the Australian Police/Public respond to their antics.

          Interest to know what you thought of their chants, they came across as pretty bigoted to me ?

          Guess it all comes down to one’s personal views I think the police do a pretty good job, thatthese protestors are a pack of stirrers wanting little more than a bit of airtime and could have protested as much as they wanted but sans the nosie and avoided getting arrested, I also think the target and effect of their protest is way off.

          • felix 7.1.2.1.1

            All of that probably makes sense to you, git, but that’s because you haven’t got your head around the idea that protesting is legally granted a different status legally to a bunch of hoons outside the pub.

            I accept that you wish it weren’t so.

  8. Neil 8

    the arrests may be unlawful or they might not be, that’s the sort of thing that is usually left to the courts to decide.

    But you might be surprised to know that quite a lot of people would consider part of the police’s role is to protect individuals from being targerted for harassment by political zealots on the basis of their ethnicity. Whatever extreme of the political spectrum those zealots come from.

    • lprent 8.1

      Ah yes. There is a whacking great hole in your argument – there is no redress on the police. That is what they rely on while making unlawful arrests.

      What happens if (as is very likely in these cases) that the courts decide that to dismiss the charges or the police decide not to bring forward the charges. You’ve been arrested, deprived of your liberty, had bail conditions that restrict your abilities to protest, and then the charges all dissipate into vapor. It will usually not even get to trial. The police will stand up at some stage and announce that they will not be proceeding.

      In effect the police have knowingly arrested someone, knowing that they had exceeded their ability to gain a conviction, done it unlawfully, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. They will do exactly the same thing again and again and again.

      We have a toothless and useless police complaints and no ability to sue the arresting officer or the police for an unlawful arrest. Even if you did, you’d have to take years and tens of thousands of dollars to bring to court.

      That is the issue in these posts….

      • Neil 8.1.1

        the police will have stopped the ethnically motivated harassment of an individual. If that turns out to be illegal then i’d say the law needs to be changed.

        anti-abortion activists are quite entitled to stand outside abortion clinics with placards to protest their point of view – to tell people what they don’t want to hear as it’s been put – but to attempt to interfer with the operations of the clinic would be crossing the line and I think most people would expect the Police to intervene.

        No one is stopping Minto from protesting. he can stand on the side of the road with a placard.

        • felix 8.1.1.1

          He can do a lot more than that, Neil.

          That might be how you’d prefer he protest but that has nothing to do with the law.

          How come righties can’t understand the difference between “the law” and “what I reckon should be allowed”?

          • Neil 8.1.1.1.1

            actually I’d perfer him to protest in a manner that displayed dignity, intelligence and self respect, that might benefit the Palestinian cause.

            His never ending drama of self-martyredom and self-pity isn’t attracting a lot of support.

            But the parlous state of their supporters is the least of the Palestinians’ problems.

            • felix 8.1.1.1.1.1

              What you would prefer is neither here nor there.

              Do you think the police are charged with enforcing the “Neil Reckons Act of 2010”?

              If not, then what the fuck are you on about?.

              • Neil

                I think it was something about constructive support for the Palestinian cause as opposed to self-aggrandisment.

                But I’m begining to see that it’s very difficult for some to see what difference it would make if she were Arab Israeli and that most probably the protests would occur anyway. That would be even more bizarre.

              • felix

                So you’ve convinced yourself that in a hypothetical situation there may or may not be a similar response, and you’re confused that no-one else is interested in taking imaginary sides despite your clear impression that they probably would if it were real.

    • The Voice of Reason 8.2

      Nobody is protesting because of Pe’re’s ethnicity, Neil. It’s because she is Israeli and seen as representative of her county’s rather iffy behaviour towards its neighbours. Two very different things.

      • gitmo 8.2.1

        Perhaps they should start targeting the synagogues as well…. oh and let’s stop serving Israeli tourists at restaurants as well, I sure that’ll get public opinion supporting a change in Israel’s foreign policy…… oh wait a sec …

      • Neil 8.2.2

        so it would make no difference if she was an Israeli Arab?

        • felix 8.2.2.1

          I don’t know Neil, would it?

          What if she had a disability? What would that make it?

          • Neil 8.2.2.1.1

            i was repsonding to the

            “Nobody is protesting because of Pe’re’s ethnicity”

            comment above. the issue here is ethnicity not disability.

            • felix 8.2.2.1.1.1

              Don’t be a spoon. That comment was in response to your own suggestion that the protest is ethnically motivated.

              You bought it up and now you want others to disprove it.

              Ok I’ll play too. I think the protests are motivated by sexism. They wouldn’t be there if she was a man, they’re just pissed off about womens tennis.

              • gitmo

                “they’re just pissed off about womens tennis.”

                Well that’s a cause worth supporting, along with the removal of all gingas from competitive sport. all that red hair moving about scares the shit out of me.

              • felix

                I’ll be right beside you to protest the filthy gingas.

              • grumpy

                Come on felix, either the protests are targetted at her because of her ethnicity, or religion.

                Just as well she’s not a ginga, that would be too much.

    • prism 8.3

      This woman tennis player isn’t the purpose of protest because of her ethnicity, it is because her country Israel has turned another country into a ghetto and is laying siege to it.
      It is an old historical method of starving enemies out and it is not what Israelis should be doing in this age. They have a regime and system for dealing with Palestine that is as hateful as apartheid was in South Africa. And they live the high life touring the world while they oppress the Palestinians.

  9. gitmo 9

    Yawn what a load of trite bollocks.

    The police warned the protesters three times to tone it down due to complaints from the public, the use of loudhailers is a deliberate attempt to disrupt the tournament not merely to express a political message. otherwise why not just use placards for passers by to see.

    Wrong place to protest, wrong target and most people have probably got less sympathy for what the original protest was about after the chanting directed at the Israeli girl and lets not forget about her opponents as well who are no doubt put off by this bullshit ……… this is actually the way they make their living.

    Why don’t you link to the video of the debacle showing the police acting with admirable restraint.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3212353/John-Minto-arrested-at-tennis-protest

    Somehow I don’t get the same sense of outrage about the police’s behaviour that you do watching this Rocky, what I see is a very restrained bunch of cops dealing with obstructive fools who are intent on making a nuisance of themselves and getting their face into the papers.

    Perhaps you could also explain why the protestors were so busy chanting ‘Shahar shame’ ‘shahar out’ and ‘blood on your hands’ why are they protesting against her ?

    • lprent 9.1

      The question is if people are able to protest and what the guidelines are. Who cares what the protest is about. It could have been people protesting against the EFA or the repeal of s59a.

      The courts are pretty damn clear about the limits to protest activity and these protesters follow these. The police appear to not understand the courts decisions and just make up their own rules. They are able to do this because there is no effective redress against the police when they operate outside of the courts guidelines. Quite simply as far as the police are concerned, protesters are guilty until the court proves them innocent.

      There is a pretty simple solution. Allow the protesters to bring charges of unlawful arrest against the police person who arrested them. Let the courts decide if they acted unlawfully.

      • gitmo 9.1.1

        ZZZZZZZZ

        As I cut and pasted from the “Brooker” case you posted yesterday

        “‘ What has been abandoned, in pursuit of an exalted perception of the right to freedom of expression,
        is the notion that s 4(1)(a) can be applied to promote public order in the sense of decorum and orderliness in public places to the benefit of all citizens. This objective can be achieved without proscribing trivial or inconsequential behaviour. No more is required than that, in a democratic and civil society, citizens exercise their rights responsibly with concern and consideration for their fellow citizens. ”

        Let me repeat again – No more is required than that, in a democratic and civil society, citizens exercise their rights responsibly with concern and consideration for their fellow citizens.

        And lets add to that the very well laid out comment from Deus ex Machina yesterday as below.

        ‘I don’t agree with your knee-jerk condemnation of the police.

        Point 1. They allowed the protest to proceed for 45 minutes. Protesters have rights, but so do the rest of us. There are no doubt many things you don’t want to hear, but are you arguing for the right to protesters to park themselves outside your house and blast the message at you through loudspeakers 24/7 or even for ten minutes every hour night and day?

        Point 2. The purpose of protest is to get a message across to someone in a position to do something about it ie politicians, CEO’s of businesses etc. The target of this protest was a sportswoman in no position at all to influence her country’s policies, and equally targeted another professional sportswoman with no connection to it whatsoever and a irritated a crowd who would probably in the main be sympathetic anyway.

        Point 3. Protest is a right, and with rights come obligations. Those obligations include targetting the message to where it matters rather than imposing it on ‘captive’ audiences, and respecting the rights of others to enjoy a sporting occasion.

        Point 4. By your logic I would be quite entitled to follow Japanese tourists around the country bellowing an anti-whaling message at them in camp-sites, motels, ski-resorts, jet-boats etc. without regard to the enjoyment of anyone else, or American tourists with an anti-Guantanamo message, French tourists with an anti-Pacific nuclear message and even New Zealanders with an anti-right-wing message.

        The protesters achieved their publicity and made their point in the first five minutes. Going beyond that was simply pointless vindictive mischief-making and I support the action of the police.”

        • Neil 9.1.1.1

          “The courts are pretty damn clear about the limits to protest activity and these protesters follow these.”

          That is your opinion and we’ll see if you’re right when it goes to court.

          but others have opinions which include laying complaints about the noise aimed at deliberately disrupting the tournament. That action may not be within the limits of reasaonable protest, certanly a lot of people hold that opinion.

          • modern 9.1.1.1.1

            “others have opinions”
            “certanly a lot of people hold that opinion.”

            You just don’t get it, do you! Something in your head is preventing you from realising that “majority opinion” and “status quo” are not the same as “legal” let alone “morally right”. You are a cookie cutter conservative in this respect, but you don’t even understand that yet. Don’t ever bless us with your wafty opinions on majority view again, if you want to be taken seriously here.

            What’s at issue here is (a) the legality of the protest; and (b) the lack of legal rights to prevent police from using arrest (without any prospect of conviction) and bail conditions to make their lives easier.

        • felix 9.1.1.2

          If we’re just copying and pasting yesterdays arguments then I might as well paste yesterday’s responses to that:

          “Point One: There’s a time limit on the freedom of expression?

          Point Two: The people that make a difference are you and me,the plonkers at the tennis, the shopkeepers, the pedestrians, even the police. The suits need reminding of this from time to time.

          Point Three: I don’t agree entirely. But, okay, lets say , yes, protesters are required to obey the law which, in this instance, they did. However much the protest spoiled the experience of sitting in the sun eating icecream while watching sport, I’m sure most Palestinians would have loved to swap even just for an afternoon.”

          And 4: “Absolutely you can. And we can all think you’re a dick.”

      • Nick 9.1.2

        There is a pretty simple solution. Allow the protesters to bring charges of unlawful arrest against the police person who arrested them. Let the courts decide if they acted unlawfully.

        File a statement of claim than and away you go.

        Pretty simple.

  10. Rocky

    While I endorse the right to protest, you do not have the right to disrupt the Tennis. Hanging about in trees wasting police time, only makes you look like a monkey.

    • lprent 10.1

      1. You should be talking to John Darroch, not rocky.
      2. The police arrested him for using a loudhailer which he is entitled to do according to previous court decisions.
      3. The reason he climbed a tree was to make it more difficult for the police to arrest him.

      Basically you should read the post.

  11. Ministry of Justice 11

    The protest is not lawful, it breaches the Racial Harassment section of the Human Rights Act.

    • The Voice of Reason 12.1

      No it’s not.

      If it was racism, they would be protesting because of her race, whatever that might be. Anyone now? I don’t. I know she’s from the country of Israel, but I haven’t got the foggiest as to what her racial background is. Arab? African? Hebrew? Russian?

      Israel is not a race, it is a country. Zionism, the political driver of Israel’s foreign policy is racist. Hence the protest is actually anti-racist.

      I know people get confused between the religion most Israelis’ identify with and the country itself, but they are different things. Protesting against, say, Iran, does not make it racist against Persians or say, against the Myanmar regime does not make it anti-Burmese.

  12. Wayne R. 13

    On the eve of last years election, I was hassling John Key at a public event. I was using a megaphone and often drowned out his speech. I think my action was much closer, louder and disruptive that the tennis protest could possibly have been.

    The police response, however, was completely different to that in Auckland. Twice they rescued the megaphone and returned it to me. They pointedly told bleating Tories that all Kiwi’s had a right to protest and they would have to put up with it. In the end, Key left, I chatted amiably with a few of the Nat’s, including one of the local MP’s, and we parted without any grief.

    I’m not aware of anything changing on the legal front, so is it simply that under a Tory government, the police feel less inclined to tolerate protest and are happy to arrest people without cause, then release them without charge, as long as it takes the steam out of the demo?

    If I was a conspiracy theorist, I’d probably suggest the indifferance to the Japanese whalers’ attempted murder of 5 NZ citizens on Wednesday confirms a shift to the right in the corridors of state power.

    • gitmo 13.1

      Harrasing politicians during electioneering is fair game and to be commended, disturbing the publics enjoyment of a tennis game and the players’ right to make their living is not.

      If you were conpletely retarded you could suggest the indifferance to the Japanese whalers’ attempted murder of 5 NZ citizens on Wednesday confirms a shift to the right in the corridors of state power.

      • Wayne R. 13.1.1

        If I was completely retarded, I’d identify myself with a political prison camp where the inmates are held indefinately without charge, trial or legal representation, Gitmo. But then, I’m not a reactionary hypocrite, eh.

        The point I was making in the last para was that there seems to be a not so subtle change in the official attitude to protestors. It now seems to be that protestors are fair game for both unlawful arrest and actual physical harm. I’m not a conspiracy theorist, so I don’t believe a plan has been conceived, signed off and actioned. However, I can accept that since the change of government, there has been a sense of ‘it’s our turn now’ amongst some sections of society, including, possibly, the police heirarchy.

        It’s the vibe, your Honour.

        • rocky 13.1.1.1

          Nothing to do with the change of government – all these things were happening under Labour too. Very little to do with the government.

        • lprent 13.1.1.2

          The police largely act independently of the government of the day. The government can only really dick about with the funding and new projects – for instance providing extra funding to be able to put more staff into Manakau. Of course the minister can suggest things and these are often looked by the police. What she cannot to is to order.

          Good thing too.

          The police, like police everywhere, have a strong tendency to a presumption of guilt. It kind of comes with the job. It is usually moderated by the courts.

          The difficulty here is that the courts are so slow these days, that the police don’t get good feedback. Moreover they are able to give extra-legal punishments by charging people and feeding them to the court system. Why should the police care if they lose a case. They can drag a person through multiple status hearings, get them to expend thousands on lawyers, etc…

          We need a restraint on the police unlawfully arresting people. Lets allow the police to be sued in court for unlawful arrest and the damages.

          • zelda 13.1.1.2.1

            What about an ex parte injuction against the police either before the protest begins, or even better after the first arrests. THis would help on the days following.
            I know thats a big ask in terms of getting a lawyer etc.
            But it means the officer in charge has to front up to the judge once he has broken the law and is personally liable and cant just toss the protestors into system and wash his hands

  13. burt 14

    lprent

    Yep you’re arguing that might makes right? That the expectation of an unlawful arrest means that you shouldn’t do a lawful action.
    Do you have an opinion on your ethical standards based on that?

    Ethics I said I support John standing up for what he feels strongly about, I said I totally agree with him that police performing illegal arrests is a very serious concern. This is a reflection of my ethical position and I didn’t think I was being anything less than obvious about that. The question is the legal issue of guilty mind/hand.

    Causing the police to arrest and process half a dozen people that needed to be extracted from trees etc is in itself disturbing the peace. Ignoring it was a protest you might support and ignoring it was a person you probably support unconditionally because you agree with his politics the question was one of intent to cause disruption and actually causing disruption.

  14. felix 15

    I wish Brett Dale were here to tell us they’re only protesting coz she’s white.

    • grumpy 15.1

      Dunno about Brett Dale but I would have more time for GP&J if they were seen targetting other individuals from countries they have issues with – or are they just a single cause outfit – a one trick pony?

  15. zelda 16

    Is it possible to get an injunction from the High Court before the protest begins preventing the Police from breaking the law by arresting you for merely being ‘noisy’.
    That way the guys in charge have to front up to a judge to explain their illegal actions.

    • lprent 16.1

      That may work. Interesting (albeit expensive) idea. The problem is that the police do need the power to arrest if someone goes over the bounds (apparently not in this case). That would make High Court judges very conservative about granting an injunction.

      If it did happen them arresting someone would pretty well get the arresting officer hauled up in court for contempt of court – which is really what it is.

  16. zelda 17

    Looking at the photos, did the police on duty remove their identity discs?

  17. burt 18

    The police, like police everywhere, have a strong tendency to a presumption of guilt. It kind of comes with the job. It is usually moderated by the courts.

    Correct, sworn police staff doing law at uni stand out like dogs bollox. They loose the term ‘defendant’ from their vocab and replace it with ‘offender’.

    As much as we need restrain on the police unlawfully arresting people we also need restrain on the use of police discretion to not arrest people. If we tolerate the police playing the ‘not in the public interest’ card when we think it is a good idea we are kind of obliged to accept them using the ‘in the public interest’ card when they want to as well. We can’t have it both ways lprent.

    • lprent 18.1

      The police should not be arresting and charging unless they have a good chance of getting a conviction at the time they did an arrest.

      Balancing acts like that are the purview of the courts. So after the police decline to proceed or the court declines to convict, it seems reasonable that the defendant should have a right to question the decision to arrest in front of a judge. The judge can use a reasonable police officer test (and you can bet that they will lean towards supporting public order).

      The majority of the sworn police officers do a good job. There are just some clowns that seem to disregard the law. I suspect that such a system would follow an 80/20 type ration. Less than 20% of the officers will account for 80% of the complaints for false arrest.

      So the penalties should be quite severe. I’d suggest a fine against the officers pay equivalent to a few weeks pay.

  18. Rob 19

    chanting ‘Shahar shame’ ‘shahar out’ and ‘blood on your hands’ doesnt really make the protesters point, no wonder they got arrested.

    Better chants next time, perhaps one related to the issues they claim they are protesting about…

    • zelda 19.1

      The Israeli military would put a few rounds of phosphorus shells into the tennis while the match is underway to stop it, and you disagree with blood on your hands for a person who works for the IDF?

      • Rob 19.1.1

        unfortunately military service is compulsory in Israel, and this is why she works as an administrative assistant for the IDF.

        She doesnt have a choice if she chooses to live in Israel. Typically, women are required to serve for 2 years

        • Jenny 19.1.1.1

          Everyone has a choice, and many Israeli citizens make this choice at great personal cost to themselves. Often facing gaol and detention by the Zionist state.

          The fact that Israel has mandatory conscription is no excuse. So did Hitler’s Germany and the Nuremburg courts ruled this out as a defence.

          Sharhar is not being asked to go as far as the refusniks. All she is being asked is to stop blindly living the high life while her country deals in racist oppression and murder. In fact her show of normality is a cover for these acts.

          During the aparthied regime the catchcry was no normal sport in an abnormal society.

    • Neil 19.2

      or perhaps organise an alternative tournament, have educational displays, talk with people rather than shout at them.

      disrupting the tennis tournament and provoking Police action haven’t been all that sucessful in gaining support for the Palestinian cause.

      • modern 19.2.1

        Hmm, yes, deep reflections on tactics – thanks

        Perhaps put them in a more relevant forum. The discussion here is about police actions, the legality and morality of them. But I’m sure GPJA would love to hear your insights ‘from the gut’, perhaps contact them.

  19. grumpy 20

    I have to laugh.

    Where was all this left wing outrage about the rule of law when Rocky was arrested for breaking into the chicken factory at Levin a few weeks ago?

    Just when it suits eh?

    • Pascal's bookie 20.1

      In the relevant thread dipshit.

      If someone breaks a law during some sort of protest action, and willingly submits to the legal consequences of that law breaking, then the rule of law is being respected. These posts are about the police going beyond the rule of law.

      It’s not difficult grumpy.

      • grumpy 20.1.1

        So you say…….

        So far you are only “alleging” that the police broke the law. They probably have another view and probably supported by legal opinion.

        We shall see.

        • lprent 20.1.1.1

          You want to take a bet on either a failure to bring a case forward, or the charge being thrown out, or a failure to convict, or if convicted in the district court it gets overthrown on appeal?

          Incidentally I only bet on sure things and where I know the area well…

          • Neil 20.1.1.1.1

            any of that could happen but the Police weren’t acting out of their own volition, they were responding to complaints about noise from the tournament organisers.

            They asked the protesters to desist and arrested those that didn’t.

            How would you have prefered the Police to have acted?

          • grumpy 20.1.1.1.2

            Like you, i’m not keen to take a bet on this. Freedom to demonstate is a fundamental part of NZ’s democratic system.

            If people feel strongly that police actions are against the law there is always the Police Complaints authority if nobody wants to go as far as bringing a case.

            Sounds like something that needs clarification.

      • rob 20.1.2

        Pascal’s Bookie,

        I think grumpy made a relevant comment. Leave it to the moderators to decide what can and cant be posted.

        • Pascal's bookie 20.1.2.1

          Where did I say his comment should be deleted or whatever?

          He said that folks were being hypocritical and alleged that in a previous post people were coming out against the rule of law. That is precisely false, as in the previous thread the arguments were in favour of the rule of law being applied.

          Ironically though, you seem to be claiming that my comment should be moderated.

          edit: I see what you mean now. I wasn’t saying his comment wasn’t relevant to this thread but replying to his question:

          Where was all this left wing outrage about the rule of law when Rocky was arrested for breaking into the chicken factory at Levin a few weeks ago?

          In the relevant thread dipshit.

          Perhaps I should have quoted it, but we have a reply function for a reason don’t we?

  20. burt 21

    lprent

    The police should not be arresting and charging unless they have a good chance of getting a conviction at the time they did an arrest.

    I think you side stepped my point lprent. What you say here is correct but along side that is;

    The police should be arresting and charging when they have a good chance of getting a conviction at the time they did an arrest.

    There has been a lot of debate over the last few years about police not charging the “above the law” people in NZ and in many cases you have supported that because it was in the best interest of your ideology and political favourites. Helen-I-Can’t-Be-Prosecuted Clark is a good example. How many times did we hear the line; There is a prima facie case but it is not in the public interest to prosecute.

    If you give police discretion other than the likelyhood of obtaining a conviction then you need to expect that discretion will work against you from time to time. You can’t have it both ways.

    I have long argued that police should not have discretion where it appears there is a case because that is the job of the courts, a case be be thrown out or a suspended sentence can be issued and this is the role of the courts – not the police.

    It seems that you are agreeing with me about that but only in the situations where people should not be charged and that you are side stepping the other side of the same coin.

  21. Jewish Kiwi 22

    I appreciate this thread is about the police, and not Shahar Peer. But as (they say on talkback), I am a long time listener and a first time caller. I can’t help but add my two cents.

    I have lived in Israel. I served in the IDF. I guess you could call me a zionist, but secular zionism, not religious zionism (please note that there is a difference). I have family and friends in Israel, but home is New Zealand.

    It does my head in to see Shahar Peer treated in this way. Protesting against a team like the Springboks is one thing, but it is quite horrible that Peer should shoulder all the sins of Israel on her own. Defence is paramount in Israel, and affects every aspect of peoples lives. You can’t equate an institution like the IDF with any other military apparatus. Yes, it bulldozes and kills, but it is also at the heart of Israeli society, and can;t be divorced from it. Peer serving is unremarkable.

    The proterstors seem to hold such a narrow, uncomplicated view of the situation in Israel/Palestine. There is a problem with those in the diaspora who feel compelled to defend Israel at all costs – claiming antisemitism every time criticsm is levelled at Israel does nothing for the internal political debate within Israel. There are many within Israel who want peace, and prostest for it constantly. The Gaza incursion last year was a travesty which had many people within Israel outraged, and gave ever more people within the IDF the courage to object to entering warfare.

    But these protestors aren’t helping the internal process within Isreal either – they are singling out an individual and proclaiming she has blood on her hands, when in reality she is merely a citizen within a democractic, multicultural state which exists as a pragmatic reality. She’s not exactly PW Botha. The protestors seem to be in denial of this.

    It appears a strange protest to test the attitudes of police with.

    • gitmo 22.1

      Thank you for your comments, they are reasoned, non bombastic and put most of the rest of us trolls to shame.

    • yesss 22.2

      JK is of course correct, this is “rent a protester” bods like Minto and his trainees trying to get some air time as the topic of protest is so confused its irrelevant.

    • prism 22.3

      jewish kiwi
      It is true that the protest is unfair on the tennis player. But it is essential that the world keeps bringing Israel face to face with itself. What a sad country the leaders have made, and the young population serving in the military accept the mindset of the military. And the war goes on in a set of deadly skirmishes. There are regular deaths caused by the Palestinian resistance to be returned in spades by Israel. Your Gaza stone is my Israeli grenade etc.

      Unfortunately most of the leading politicians are from the military and seem to both understand and deliberately inflame the Palestinians. It is a well-known political ploy to have an outside threat to keep a population supporting the status quo. Look at the Australians voting for that rat John Howard as soon as they felt threatened by boat people immigrants. The Jews around WW2 knew what it was like to escape by boat and then be refused a safe port.

      Meanwhile the rest of the world is impacted by the anger of the muslim world at the treatment of Palestinians by these implacably callous political leaders and manipulators.

      Protest is good. There should be more of it outside Israel. We know about Mossad, there must be a lot of control over people in Israel. Remember the anti nuclear guy, he was supposed to be released, but they imprisoned him again. They grabbed him in a foreign country too. Israel is bonded again, it has yet to break through its own machiavellian ties.

      • Jewish Kiwi 22.3.1

        Yes, you can surely write a litany of things which Israel now must face as its short history as a nation.

        But Shahar Peer is being forced bear the brunt of being the most high-profile Israeli to visit NZ in quite a while. And she’s just a frikken tennis player.

        Not caring to wait for something more significant to visit, like the Israeli synchronized swimming team, or whatever, these protesters are carrying on like this is another big moment akin to the Springbok tour.

        It just looks like a rinky-dink lynch mob. They really ought to save their energy.

        • prism 22.3.1.1

          The protests at the tennis have been effective in testing our freedoms to protest in NZ and encouraging people to look beyond their barbies and beer to where people are really suffering. Shame that their convenience and entertainment is being interfered with.
          I am sure I would be annoyed too if I was trying to watch the tennis. It would be all about me having an enjoyable time, having paid good money and not getting what I expected. Maybe I would need this non-violent reminder of other people’s chronic troubles.

      • gitmo 22.3.2

        Ummmmmm how is this rent a mob “bringing Israel face to face with itself ” ? the last couple of days seems to have been more to do with Baiting the police and trying to make some obtuse points about using loud hailers to protest than anything to do with Israel.

        On another note do you think it would be reasonable if at the same time as people “bringing Israel face to face with itself” people could “bring those in charge of the Palestinian territories face to face with themselves”

        I also note your comment about the Mossad and the people in Israel being ‘overly controlled’ I would have thought this was more prevalent in many of their neighbours than in Israel, I certainly thought it was a pretty open (press, etc) when I was pottering around over there.

  22. Mark E 23

    me and some mates spent two and a half hours being very annoying with our megaphone outside the Japanese embassy today at an anti whaling protest. The police drove past a couple of times and we never saw them again. which is how I like it.

    I suspect the heavy policing and confiscation of at least six auckland activist group megaphones has a lot to do with Hillary Clinton arriving next week . . .

    • gitmo 23.1

      “I suspect the heavy policing and confiscation of at least six auckland activist group megaphones has a lot to do with Hillary Clinton arriving next week . . .”

      I suspect the heavy policing and confiscation of at least six auckland activist group megaphones has a lot to do with the protest disturbing the peace at a public event.

      There fixed it for you

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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    18 hours ago
  • What is the Hardest Sport in the World?
    Determining the hardest sport in the world is a subjective matter, as the difficulty level can vary depending on individual abilities, physical attributes, and experience. However, based on various factors including physical demands, technical skills, mental fortitude, and overall accomplishment, here is an exploration of some of the most challenging ...
    20 hours ago
  • What is the Most Expensive Sport?
    The allure of sport transcends age, culture, and geographical boundaries. It captivates hearts, ignites passions, and provides unparalleled entertainment. Behind the spectacle, however, lies a fascinating world of financial investment and expenditure. Among the vast array of competitive pursuits, one question looms large: which sport carries the hefty title of ...
    20 hours ago
  • Pickleball On the Cusp of Olympic Glory
    Introduction Pickleball, a rapidly growing paddle sport, has captured the hearts and imaginations of millions around the world. Its blend of tennis, badminton, and table tennis elements has made it a favorite among players of all ages and skill levels. As the sport’s popularity continues to surge, the question on ...
    20 hours ago
  • The Origin and Evolution of Soccer Unveiling the Genius Behind the World’s Most Popular Sport
    Abstract: Soccer, the global phenomenon captivating millions worldwide, has a rich history that spans centuries. Its origins trace back to ancient civilizations, but the modern version we know and love emerged through a complex interplay of cultural influences and innovations. This article delves into the fascinating journey of soccer’s evolution, ...
    20 hours ago
  • How Much to Tint Car Windows A Comprehensive Guide
    Tinting car windows offers numerous benefits, including enhanced privacy, reduced glare, UV protection, and a more stylish look for your vehicle. However, the cost of window tinting can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article provides a comprehensive guide to help you understand how much you can expect to ...
    20 hours ago
  • Why Does My Car Smell Like Gas? A Comprehensive Guide to Diagnosing and Fixing the Issue
    The pungent smell of gasoline in your car can be an alarming and potentially dangerous problem. Not only is the odor unpleasant, but it can also indicate a serious issue with your vehicle’s fuel system. In this article, we will explore the various reasons why your car may smell like ...
    20 hours ago
  • How to Remove Tree Sap from Car A Comprehensive Guide
    Tree sap can be a sticky, unsightly mess on your car’s exterior. It can be difficult to remove, but with the right techniques and products, you can restore your car to its former glory. Understanding Tree Sap Tree sap is a thick, viscous liquid produced by trees to seal wounds ...
    20 hours ago
  • How Much Paint Do You Need to Paint a Car?
    The amount of paint needed to paint a car depends on a number of factors, including the size of the car, the number of coats you plan to apply, and the type of paint you are using. In general, you will need between 1 and 2 gallons of paint for ...
    21 hours ago
  • Can You Jump a Car in the Rain? Safety Precautions and Essential Steps
    Jump-starting a car is a common task that can be performed even in adverse weather conditions like rain. However, safety precautions and proper techniques are crucial to avoid potential hazards. This comprehensive guide will provide detailed instructions on how to safely jump a car in the rain, ensuring both your ...
    21 hours ago
  • Can taxpayers be confident PIJF cash was spent wisely?
    Graham Adams writes about the $55m media fund — When Patrick Gower was asked by Mike Hosking last week what he would say to the many Newstalk ZB callers who allege the Labour government bribed media with $55 million of taxpayers’ money via the Public Interest Journalism Fund — and ...
    Point of OrderBy gadams1000
    1 day ago
  • EGU2024 – An intense week of joining sessions virtually
    Note: this blog post has been put together over the course of the week I followed the happenings at the conference virtually. Should recordings of the Great Debates and possibly Union Symposia mentioned below, be released sometime after the conference ends, I'll include links to the ones I participated in. ...
    1 day ago
  • Submission on “Fast Track Approvals Bill”
    The following was my submission made on the “Fast Track Approvals Bill”. This potential law will give three Ministers unchecked powers, un-paralled since the days of Robert Muldoon’s “Think Big” projects.The submission is written a bit tongue-in-cheek. But it’s irreverent because the FTAB is in itself not worthy of respect. ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 day ago
  • The Case for a Universal Family Benefit
    One Could Reduce Child Poverty At No Fiscal CostFollowing the Richardson/Shipley 1990 ‘redesign of the welfare state’ – which eliminated the universal Family Benefit and doubled the rate of child poverty – various income supplements for families have been added, the best known being ‘Working for Families’, introduced in 2005. ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    1 day ago
  • A who’s who of New Zealand’s dodgiest companies
    Submissions on National's corrupt Muldoonist fast-track law are due today (have you submitted?), and just hours before they close, Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop has been forced to release the list of companies he invited to apply. I've spent the last hour going through it in an epic thread of bleats, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • On Lee’s watch, Economic Development seems to be stuck on scoring points from promoting sporting e...
    Buzz from the Beehive A few days ago, Point of Order suggested the media must be musing “on why Melissa is mute”. Our article reported that people working in the beleaguered media industry have cause to yearn for a minister as busy as Melissa Lee’s ministerial colleagues and we drew ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago
  • New Zealand has never been closed for business
    1. What was The Curse of Jim Bolger?a. Winston Peters b. Soon after shaking his hand, world leaders would mysteriously lose office or shuffle off this mortal coilc. Could never shake off the Mother of All Budgetsd. Dandruff2. True or false? The Chairman of a Kiwi export business has asked the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago
  • Stop the panic – we’ve been here before
    Jack Vowles writes – New Zealand is said to be suffering from ‘serious populist discontent’. An IPSOS MORI survey has reported that we have an increasing preference for strong leaders, think that the economy is rigged toward the rich and powerful, and political elites are ignoring ‘hard-working people’.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Melissa Lee and the media: ending the quest
    Chris Trotter writes –  MELISSA LEE should be deprived of her ministerial warrant. Her handling – or non-handling – of the crisis engulfing the New Zealand news media has been woeful. The fate of New Zealand’s two linear television networks, a question which the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • The Hoon around the week to April 19
    TL;DR: The podcast above features co-hosts and , along with regular guests Robert Patman on Gaza and AUKUS II, and on climate change.The six things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā and elsewhere for paying subscribers in the ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • The ‘Humpty Dumpty’ end result of dismantling our environmental protections
    Policymakers rarely wish to make plain or visible their desire to dismantle environmental policy, least of all to the young. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: Here’s the top five news items of note in climate news for Aotearoa-NZ this week, and a discussion above between Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Nicola's Salad Days.
    I like to keep an eye on what’s happening in places like the UK, the US, and over the ditch with our good mates the Aussies. Let’s call them AUKUS, for want of a better collective term. More on that in a bit.It used to be, not long ago, that ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • Study sees climate change baking in 19% lower global income by 2050
    TL;DR: The global economy will be one fifth smaller than it would have otherwise been in 2050 as a result of climate damage, according to a new study by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and published in the journal Nature. (See more detail and analysis below, and ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Weekly Roundup 19-April-2024
    It’s Friday again. Here’s some of the things that caught our attention this week. This Week on Greater Auckland On Tuesday Matt covered at the government looking into a long tunnel for Wellington. On Wednesday we ran a post from Oscar Simms on some lessons from Texas. AT’s ...
    2 days ago
  • Jack Vowles: Stop the panic – we’ve been here before
    New Zealand is said to be suffering from ‘serious populist discontent’. An IPSOS MORI survey has reported that we have an increasing preference for strong leaders, think that the economy is rigged toward the rich and powerful, and political elites are ignoring ‘hard-working people’.  The data is from February this ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    2 days ago
  • Clearing up confusion (or trying to)
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters is understood to be planning a major speech within the next fortnight to clear up the confusion over whether or not New Zealand might join the AUKUS submarine project. So far, there have been conflicting signals from the Government. RNZ reported the Prime Minister yesterday in ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago
  • How to Retrieve Deleted Call Log iPhone Without Computer
    How to Retrieve Deleted Call Log on iPhone Without a Computer: A StepbyStep Guide Losing your iPhone call history can be frustrating, especially when you need to find a specific number or recall an important conversation. But before you panic, know that there are ways to retrieve deleted call logs on your iPhone, even without a computer. This guide will explore various methods, ranging from simple checks to utilizing iCloud backups and thirdparty applications. So, lets dive in and recover those lost calls! 1. Check Recently Deleted Folder: Apple understands that accidental deletions happen. Thats why they introduced the Recently Deleted folder for various apps, including the Phone app. This folder acts as a safety net, storing deleted call logs for up to 30 days before permanently erasing them. Heres how to check it: Open the Phone app on your iPhone. Tap on the Recents tab at the bottom. Scroll to the top and tap on Edit. Select Show Recently Deleted. Browse the list to find the call logs you want to recover. Tap on the desired call log and choose Recover to restore it to your call history. 2. Restore from iCloud Backup: If you regularly back up your iPhone to iCloud, you might be able to retrieve your deleted call log from a previous backup. However, keep in mind that this process will restore your entire phone to the state it was in at the time of the backup, potentially erasing any data added since then. Heres how to restore from an iCloud backup: Go to Settings > General > Reset. Choose Erase All Content and Settings. Follow the onscreen instructions. Your iPhone will restart and show the initial setup screen. Choose Restore from iCloud Backup during the setup process. Select the relevant backup that contains your deleted call log. Wait for the restoration process to complete. 3. Explore ThirdParty Apps (with Caution): ...
    2 days ago
  • How to Factory Reset iPhone without Computer: A Comprehensive Guide to Restoring your Device
    Life throws curveballs, and sometimes, those curveballs necessitate wiping your iPhone clean and starting anew. Whether you’re facing persistent software glitches, preparing to sell your device, or simply wanting a fresh start, knowing how to factory reset iPhone without a computer is a valuable skill. While using a computer with ...
    2 days ago
  • How to Call Someone on a Computer: A Guide to Voice and Video Communication in the Digital Age
    Gone are the days when communication was limited to landline phones and physical proximity. Today, computers have become powerful tools for connecting with people across the globe through voice and video calls. But with a plethora of applications and methods available, how to call someone on a computer might seem ...
    2 days ago
  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #16 2024
    Open access notables Glacial isostatic adjustment reduces past and future Arctic subsea permafrost, Creel et al., Nature Communications: Sea-level rise submerges terrestrial permafrost in the Arctic, turning it into subsea permafrost. Subsea permafrost underlies ~ 1.8 million km2 of Arctic continental shelf, with thicknesses in places exceeding 700 m. Sea-level variations over glacial-interglacial cycles control ...
    2 days ago
  • Where on a Computer is the Operating System Generally Stored? Delving into the Digital Home of your ...
    The operating system (OS) is the heart and soul of a computer, orchestrating every action and interaction between hardware and software. But have you ever wondered where on a computer is the operating system generally stored? The answer lies in the intricate dance between hardware and software components, particularly within ...
    2 days ago
  • How Many Watts Does a Laptop Use? Understanding Power Consumption and Efficiency
    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
    2 days ago
  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    2 days ago
  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    2 days ago
  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    2 days ago
  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    2 days ago
  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    2 days ago
  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    2 days ago
  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago
  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    3 days ago
  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PM’s South East Asia mission does the business
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago
  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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