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Gap closes in latest Fairfax

Written By: - Date published: 9:01 am, September 28th, 2011 - 54 comments
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Despite the incessant media drumbeat about incipient doom and gloom, Labour’s loyal support base refuses to lie down and die. The latest Fairfax poll has the gap with National closing a bit. Labour is up from 25.7 last month to 28.1, the Nats are down by nearly 3 points to 54.3.

Checking the media narrative is just about the only bright spot in this result of course, that’s still a huge and depressing gap. Watkins and Small sum up:

But as [National’s] support parties look increasingly sick and dark clouds gather over the economies of Europe and the United States, National is banking on a mood for stability overcoming history and potentially even giving it the numbers to govern alone.

Perish the thought! A week is a long time in politics.

54 comments on “Gap closes in latest Fairfax”

  1. One Anonymous Bloke 1

    http://horizonpoll.co.nz/page/154/horizonpoll 25th September 2011

    “This provides the current National led coalition with 46.2%, a potential Labour-Green-New Zealand First coalition with 45%.”

  2. Jim Nald 2

    “National banking on a mood for stability …”

    Huh??? “Stability”?? What stability?
    Most of the lives of people I know have been rocked directly by the government of the past 2.5 years or indirectly as a result of their incompetence at responding to natural or external issues.

    This is the lot in power that has been squandering the resilience we had since they got in. Tax cuts – $50 – northward of $50 – pfftt – and they said that as they were nudging and winking at their mates and not at us. And they borrowed to put us in more debt.

    Challenge the stupid donkey’s claim to stability. Stability of what really? Stability for who?

    • queenstfarmer 2.1

      Huh??? “Stability”?? What stability?

      Stability of a returning incumbent government, led by NZ’s most popular PM ever.

      Versus what would undoubtedly be the “coalition from hell” of Labour + Greens + NZ First + possibly Hone and / or Maori MPs.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.1

        That’s not stability it’s continuity. Continuity of incompetence.

        • Bored 2.1.1.1

          Its actually a poisoned chalice…financial wreckage coming up worldwide on the back of the Euro crisis which is going to lead to massive defaults and bankruptcies across the whole financial sector.

          Those nice NZers who wish for stability and continuity, (read certainty) stand to lose the major chunk of their “property” (shares / bank deposits). Those who live the “aspirational” dream with the huge mortgage to cover house and brand new 4WD with mag wheels can look forward to repo men coming round.

      • Bored 2.1.2

        Be honest QSF, what you are really talking about is swapping one set of right inclined kleptocratic incompetent fools with a left inclined set kleptocratic incompetent fools. Its all just down to who will gift who’s dosh to their side whilst doing f.a.(or even being cognoscent) about the real state of the world. Also seems to me you actually believe it will make an iota of difference.

        • queenstfarmer 2.1.2.1

          Well actually I was talking about not swapping the current lot, but only to address the point of stability.

          Jim asked “what stability?”, so I made the objective (and obviously correct) observation that the current Govt returned would be more stable than a multi-party coalition, particularly involving Winston Peters (who has managed to fall out with every Govt he’s been involved with).

          • mikesh 2.1.2.1.1

            The only government Winston fell out with was Jenny Shipley’s; and that was over the issue of asset sales, his opposition to which has been pretty consistent over the years.This is unlikely to be a source of instability in any future government.

        • higherstandard 2.1.2.2

          I agree completely – but you must admit it is hilarious watching everyone defend their team whilst vilifying the other team when they are just different sides of the same coin.

      • Irascible 2.1.3

        Arguing that a finger puppet known only for smiling, waving, scuttling and running off to his official residence in Hawaii is “stability” is akin to arguing that Brash & Banks are intellectual giants.
        Stability requires policies and planning for the future of the country of which NZ has seen neither from the NACT government.

      • swordfish 2.1.4

        “…..a returning incumbent government, led by NZ’s most popular PM ever.”

        Which is, of course, Complete and Utter Bollocks !

        You, Big Bruv and various other assorted Nacts just keep on pushing this bullshit. How many times do we have to explain ? Key is no more popular than Clark was.
        Either you know you’re talking bollocks or, tragically, you’ve allowed The Herald to hopelessly confuse you. About a year ago, The Herald Digi Poll took the unprecedented step of presenting its ‘Preferred PM’ stats solely on the basis of DECIDED respondents. Hence, Key’s support suddenly shot up overnight from early 50s to 70%.

        All other major polls continue to include the (considerable number of) UNDECIDEDs/DONT KNOWS/NONE OF THE ABOVES. And, in these, Key remains in the 50s.

        Simple, really.

        But, you probably still don’t get it.

        • Big bruv 2.1.4.1

          Settle down Swordfish, take a deep breath and calm down.

          Now, you may not like it but the fact is that John Key is indeed the most popular PM this nation has ever had, he is far more popular than Clark ever was.

          Deal with it and move on Swordfish, you would be far better to ask why he is popular than to argue the facts.

            • lprent 2.1.4.1.1.1

              r0b: Don’t confuse the wee bruv with facts.

              You know how that confuses him because he really can’t distinguish between those and the bullshit. He always disappears for a while after being told that his beliefs are bollocks. Presumably he heads back to the font of all bullshit at the sewer until his existential faith is restored that ideas he gets out of his navel fluff are reality.

              I can’t bear to be without his idiocy for so long… (WTF!) Umm something wrong there. Actually I can – lay it on.

              😈

          • swordfish 2.1.4.1.2

            Calm down, Big Bruv. You’re getting hysterical again. I’m gonna have to have a serious talk with your Father if this over-excitement continues, young man ! Do you seriously want to be grounded for the next fortnight, Big Bruv ? No ? Thought not, young man.

            Oh, and on Clark vs Key: see my comment below, sweet-pea.

        • swordfish 2.1.4.2

          Incidently, in this latest Fairfax Poll, Key is down 4 percentage points to 51% – barely half of New Zealanders (you know, as opposed to “NZ’s most popular PM ever !, ever !, ever !, in the whole, entire history of the Universe !!!”).

          Even in her least popular term as PM (2005-2008), Clark was still occassionally receiving more than 51% support as preferred PM.

        • queenstfarmer 2.1.4.3

          If that is the case, then it’s a fair point. I don’t know the detail of the polling methodology that you apparently do.

          Given these apparent vagaries of polling, I will err on the side of caution and say that John Key is one of the most popular PMs in NZ history.

          • swordfish 2.1.4.3.1

            Very reasonable of you, queenstfarmer. In fact, so much so that I entirely take back my hyperventilating tone.

        • Deadly_NZ 2.1.4.4

          And judging by his performance in the house he must be reading and believing said polls…. And you know what happens to people who only read the good stuff and ignore the bad… Crash and Burn time.

  3. millsy 3

    Give it up.

    Labour is heading for its biggest election defeat since the war and there is nothing we can do about it, no matter how hard you spin it. That is the reality.

    For the past 4 years, National have led Labour by at least 15-20 points, and there is nothing that has happened to change it.

    This could very well last for a generation or more.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      This could very well last for a generation or more.

      Hmmmm. How long ago was it that English led National to a historic defeat?

      Seems to me it took National less than a decade to go from Zero to Hero.

      Labour needs to remake itself. 6-7% general unemployment and 25% plus youth unemployment and it still can’t connect with the electorate. Ask some hard questions, Labour dudes.

      • Zaphod Beeblebrox 3.1.1

        Labour mainly need to get their demographic (young, wage earners) to 1. enrol 2. turn up on the day and vote. Its voter apathy with the alternative they are prposing that is the problem.

        • higherstandard 3.1.1.1

          Labour don’t need to do anything apart from wait till the electorate gets bored with Key and National and vote national out.

          I would prefer that labour was a strong and competent opposition which makes parliament function more soundly but unfortunately this opposition is cak like the opposition before it just like this government is cak like the government before it.

          • Zaphod Beeblebrox 3.1.1.1.1

            They actually need some younger and more energetic MPs. Look at some of the faces on the backbench during question time- they seem bored and happy just be picking up their pay check.

            The look at some of the Greens MPs. They seem to have a lot more fire in their bellies. Even Kennedy Graham.

        • AAMC 3.1.1.2

          ‘Those who grasp that the crisis is transforming politics will shape its future’

          http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/21/radical-action-drag-economy-brink?cat=commentisfree&type=article

          If the Left can’t dominate the narrative with markets collapsing, uneploymemt and inequality out of control, Neo-Liberal theory disproven beyond doubt, Wall St occupied, unrest throughout Europe, drought and floods compromising food security, etc etc… they don’t deserve our vote.

          There has to be a way to get their message out there, I appreciate the media is complicit, so find other means.

          • Big bruv 3.1.1.2.1

            The media is complicit?

            What world do you live in?, the media is a stinking morass of left wing pinko’s who do nothing more than parrot the left’s agenda.

            Do the names Fa’afoi and Mould mean nothing to you guys?

            • AAMC 3.1.1.2.1.1

              You seriously need you head examined, and should stop watching Fox News.

              Of the media isn’t complicit, why when the Tea party turn up anywhere is it so heavily covered, and yet still nothing on #occupywallstreet?

              Your blind faith is good for a laugh though Big Bruv!

            • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.2.1.2

              What world do you live in?, the media is a stinking morass of left wing pinko’s who do nothing more than parrot the left’s agenda.

              Cripes, first time I heard News World, Fairfax and the likes of Paul Henry, Paul Holmes, Guyon Espiner etc described as a “morass of left wing pinkos”.

              Seriously mate???

              • Big bruv

                Ok Viper

                For every Paul Henry there is a John Campbell.
                For every Leighton Smith there is a Willie Jackson.
                For every Michael Laws there is a Katherine Ryan.

                Paul Holmes is centrist at best, the mark of Espiner is that I have no real idea what his politics are.

                It seems Viper that you want to silence all those who do not agree with your politics, mind you, that is normal for the Labour party.

      • Big bruv 3.1.2

        For once Viper is right.

        I told you guys about this over a year ago, the major problem with Labour and Labour supporters is your stupid and blind adherence to the party line.

        The Chris Carter case and the Philip Field case are two classic examples, as long as the Labour party leader said that Carter and Field had no case to answer you all blindly obeyed the orders of Goff and dear leader. However, as soon as they were gone you let loose your real feelings about these two reprehensible troughers.

        It is time that Labour and its supporters admitted that the people of NZ did not get it wrong in 08, it is time that Labour and it supporters woke up to the fact that the electorate totally rejected Clark and everything she stood for.

        Until you clean out all the useless deadwood (Goff, King, Mallard, Beaumont, Moroney, Horomia, Fenton and co) you will remain in opposition for a very long time.
        Labour also needs to distance itself from the Clark regime, what you need is an almost total re branding, you need to get back to being the party of the working man (the party I should support) the party for and of those who graft each and every day.

        At the moment all Labour stand for is being the party for the bludgers and parasites, the party for union hacks and the gaggles of gays, surely we have come far enough now that ones sexuality should not be an issue, do you really need a “rainbow” faction in the party?, are the Labour gay element so unsure of their own relevance and so insecure that they need special representation?

        Labour needs to reconnect with the working classes, putting up arrogant tossers like Cunliffe, Parker or Jones is not going to connect with a bloke who works 60 hours a week to feed his family.
        These people can smell insecurity at a distance of 100 miles (incidentally, that is the reason they are overwhelmingly supporting John Key, note I said Key not National)
        Cunliffe, Parker, Jones and any other of the potential leaders post the 2011 election will suffer the same fate as Goff because they simply cannot come across as anything other than arrogant academics.

        I am not sure who said it first (it may well have been Trotter) but I agree with the comment that Labour’s next PM is not yet in the house (with the possible exception of Kelvin Davis)

        Of course the other thing that Labour has stuffed up badly on is the continuous and tedious personal attacks on the PM, again, I told you over a year ago that these would not work, you are not up against a politician you are up against a phenomenon, attacking the guy because he has done well or attacking him for the way he went about making his money is not resonating with the electorate, they love the guy, hell I am no fan of his politics but only the most small minded moron cannot help but like the guy.

        But no, in your usual arrogant way you kept on with the failed tactics of the last Clark government, you kept reminding the electorate that you are small minded and vicious people who use their power to silence anybody who dares speak out against the Labour party or its views.

        The way Labour should have gone about beating Key (or at least crawling back to an honourable defeat) was to ignore him, you should have attacked those around the guy, you should have attacked the pillars of support that hold his government up, FFS it is a target rich environment yet you morons kept bashing away at the one solid thing that the Nat’s have going for them.

        Still, it is no skin off my nose, the current Labour party is never going to get my vote, the Nat’s might be no better than Labour lite but I will take them any day of the week over a rehashed Helen Clark government and all the nastiness and petty vindictiveness that implies.

        • Brett 3.1.2.1

          Great post.

        • Vicky32 3.1.2.2

          you are not up against a politician you are up against a phenomenon, attacking the guy because he has done well or attacking him for the way he went about making his money is not resonating with the electorate

          You really ought to try talking to the average person, and you’ll see how popular Key actually is! My son for instance, has changed his view quite considerably in the past year, and now sees Key for the triumph of form over substance that he is. My son represents the views of his colleagues and flatmates, all 20-something professionals..

          • AAMC 3.1.2.2.1

            Yep, I reckon the youth vote will be an interesting one.

            See student protests yesterday, listen to student radio.

            Last election, there was no politics on BFM, they had all only ever known Labour govt, since they were about 8 or 9. Key comes in talking the same slogans as Obama, why not give him a go.

            Now student radio is rife with politics, and not supportive of the right, the babysitters I employ are desperate to get to vote. I don’t know any of them are endorsing Goff, but they want rid of Key. And they’re not part of the polls.

          • Big bruv 3.1.2.2.2

            Vicky

            I am the ‘average person’, my friends are all working class people, each and every one of them refuses to vote for Labour, each and every one of them like John Key.

            However, let’s leave that aside, your post highlights my point precisely, you seem hell bent on attacking Key when that is the wrong way to go about beating the Nat’s.

            I repeat, you are dealing with a politician like no other in our living memory, the closest would be Lange yet even Key outstrips Lange for no other reason than he has a spine.

            Labour will remain irrelevant as long as you continue to ignore the message you were sent by the electorate, they rejected Labour and everything it stands for yet you guys keep insisting that the electorate got it wrong.

            Novembers election will only see that reinforced.

            • Puddleglum 3.1.2.2.2.1

              you are dealing with a politician like no other in our living memory

              Hi BB, just what characteristics or behaviour of Key’s are you thinking of that distinguishes him in this way? A serious question. 

              • Big bruv

                Puddleglum

                “Hi BB, just what characteristics or behaviour of Key’s are you thinking of that distinguishes him in this way? ”

                I suspect your question is not genuine but I will answer it in that spirit anyway.

                I think the answer is fairly simple, the public know that Key is a self made man, they know he comes from humble beginnings and they know that he is (despite the best attempts at some morons here to paint him as such) not a man who eats babies.
                Key comes across as genuine, he does not take himself seriously as his predecessor did, he can have a laugh and poke fun at himself, even my Mrs who hates politics with a passion has said to me that she ‘likes that guy”.

                However, the main reason that Key is so popular is that the public know he is not a career politician, they know that he does not need the job, they know that he is in it for the very best reasons (not that I agree with him on that much) and they know that he actually cares.

                All of the PM’s who went before him came across as desperate when times got tough, Clark became nasty and vicious, Shipley I cannot comment on as I was out of the country during her brief tenure, Bolger was an idiot and the public could see that, Lange held on for the benefits (a lifetime with his nose in the trough is normal for the left) and Muldoon was just as nasty as Clark.

                The reason Key is so popular is because the public know that he is just like them, yes he has made a fortune but he remains a real bloke and one that they hold up as aspirational.

                To beat him you need to change tact, I suspect Key could be PM for as long as he wants such is his popularity and attacking him as the left keeps doing is only going to strengthen his support.

                • logie97

                  One thing you omit about his qualities there BB. You don’t seem to acknowledge that he is a liar…

                  • Big bruv

                    Sigh….

                    Another example of Labour arrogance, another example of a small minded lefty who still thinks that the people of NZ got it wrong.

                    They did not get it wrong, they will prove this to you come November.

                • Thanks for the response, BB. It was a genuine question.

                  In return, I should explain how I’ve come to my understanding of Key.

                  I don’t have a TV and I tend to think quite seriously about political things, because I think I’m obligated to do that out of respect for my fellow citizens.

                  Since I read a lot and listen a lot – but watch very little – that means that I gain my sense of Key from the things I hear him say on radio or read that he has said in a newspaper. I then think about what he says and compare it to what I know (e.g., facts of the matter, past news reports, and the like).

                  I have to say that I’ve noticed inconsistencies, contradictions and what I perceive as an evasive lack of clarity to a degree that suggests to me that he is not genuine. (To that extent, much like any other politician.)

                  In fact, without trying to psychoanalyse him, I’d say he has learnt = probably from an early age – to adopt the persona of ‘ordinariness’ as a way of allowing him to achieve his goals. Interestingly, the same personal history you cite (‘self made man’) strikes me as having required Key to put his ambitions ahead of caring for others.

                  For example, I had a friend who was a currency trader (a rare one as she was one of the few women in the job at the time – early to mid 90s). She was a catholic and felt quite morally torn – she quickly came to realise that, in order to succeed, the expectation was that she had to deceive her clients (by first building up their trust in her) and, also, to compete ‘no holds barred’ with her colleagues. In her words, it was a profession in which “nice guys definitely finish last”.

                  That overall impression means that I don’t find him trustworthy.

                  When you say that “the public know” he is “just like them” that he is “in it for the very best reasons” and “that he actually cares” I’d probably replace the word ‘know’ with ‘perceive’.

                  My perceptions come, I admit, from means of judging someone else that perhaps most other people don’t use. That might explain why I have a different impression of Key than do many other New Zealanders. Obviously, I’m not convinced that I’m wrong (otherwise I’d change my mind).

                  BTW, in contrast to your wife, mine can’t stand Key and is quite virulently suspicious of him. In my experience, I have found her to be a very good judge of character – as opposed to appearance – and the main thing she values is honesty. She has almost always been correct in her suspicions about people whom others have called ‘nice’, ‘friendly’, ‘kind’, etc.. It’s quite remarkable.

            • ak 3.1.2.2.2.2

              Big bub: they rejected Labour and everything it stands for

              Yeah possibly, blub, either that or wee Joky flip-flopped and accepted everything that Labour stands for and then squeaked to “victory” on the back these very same Labour policies, a media-led mass-hate campaign, a $50/wk election bribe and the blatant rorting of the electoral system in Epsom; and then proceeded to earn – even from his among own circle – the sobriquet of “Grinny Do-nothing from Hawaii”.

              So actually, they accepted everything that Labour stands for, and got an entertaining sideshow of cringe into the bargain.

              Either way, many thanks for your reasoned analysis and deep concern for the Labour party. I’m sure it will receive all the consideration it deserves.

              • Big bruv

                ak

                By all means ak, ignore what I have to say, keep your head in the ground and keep polling at low levels.
                Keep putting Mallard, Dyson, Fenton, and co at the top of your list, the Nat’s will govern for decades.

        • logie97 3.1.2.3

          … nastiness and petty vindictiveness … take a look in the mirror.

          Oh and sleeping shareholders – includes the likes of Myers and others who inherited great wealth and reinvested – no sweat or risk at all mate.

          • Big bruv 3.1.2.3.1

            Lol…so you would outlaw intergenerational wealth as well?

            • logie97 3.1.2.3.1.1

              Not at all – but just pointing out to you that they are usually asleep while they are making shit loads more money – you know, on the backs of shift workers and the likes. Myers was at the head of the debate that wanted to cut the night watching firemens’ duties as well.

  4. The gap is to big to make up.

  5. McFlock 5

    The total labour/greens vote is consecutively up in the last 3 fairfax surveys, according to the little script thingee, about 1% a month. NACT have dropped from 60% by about the same amount.

    This will become more volatile when the campaign fully kicks off, and assuming that their is no systematic underrepresentation in the survey (lol yeah, right) that means the 12% swing lab/greens need is actually only 6% from Nat to Lab. Then it’s 50:50.

         
    Assuming Act get in without poaching too much Nat support. Also Assuming that NZ1 can go either way and they’ll get in.

      

  6. randal 6

    Of course the gap is closing. YOu can fool some of the people some of the time and Keys has just about played out his string as they say in the cowbiy comix. Even Nero was popular till he burnt Rome.

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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Status quo supports status quo
    The Justice Committee has reported back on its Inquiry into the 2017 General Election and 2016 Local Elections, with a host of recommendations about how to improve our electoral systems. Some of their recommendations are already incorporate din the Electoral Amendment Bill currently before Parliament, but there's also a recommendation ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • The Greens abandon NeoLiberalism
    Back in 2017, in order to make themselves "electable" in the eyes of rich people who oppose everything they stand for, the Greens signed up for NeoLiberalism, adopting a restrictive set of "Budget Responsibility Rules" which basicly prevented them from using government to make things better. Now, they're finally abandoning ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Lying about a failed war
    Since invading in 2001, the US has consistently claimed that their war in Afghanistan has been going well, even when it continued year after year after year. Of course, they were lying, and thanks to the Washington Post and the US Freedom of Information Act, we get to see just ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Artificial Intelligence and You
    How should we think about artificial intelligence and the implications that it has for our work and leisure? There are many articles on artificial intelligence and its potential impacts on jobs, and the ethics of applications. These are important topics, but I want to focus on some less discussed aspects, ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    3 days ago
  • Statistical manipulation to get publishable results
    I love data. It’s amazing the sort of “discoveries” I can make given a data set and computer statistical package. It’s just so easy to search for relationships and test their statistical significance. Maybe relationships which ...
    3 days ago
  • More lies on the Twitter (Dan Hodges edition)
    The other big story concerning Leeds Hospital is Boris Johnson's bizzare behaviour at Leeds Hospital, where he was confronted by a journalist and challenged about a four year old boy with suspected pneumonia who was left sleeping on the floor, rather than getting  abed like a sick kid would in ...
    3 days ago
  • LabourActivistPunchedMattHancock’sSPADGate
    So, for a brief period of history, it was alleged that a protester had punched Matt Hancock's SPAD (not a euphemism; special adviser) when Hancock visited Leeds Hospital.This was reported by the likes of Robert Peston and Laura Keunssberg, as well as the less credible Guido Fawkes.  It also quickly ...
    3 days ago
  • France’s anti-Zionism is anti-liberté
    by Daphna Whitmore Last week France passed a law that equates anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism. It is based on a definition of anti-Semitism that includes criticism of Israel such as: “Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Another bus lockout
    Over the past year we've seen major bus problems in Hamilton and Wellington, as drivers have sought better wages and an end to the bullshit of split shifts, which basicly see them "married to the job". And now its Auckland's turn. When NZBus's drivers planned low-level strike action of not ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Showing us how its done
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. But those targets are insufficient. Meanwhile, Denmark is showing us how its done:Denmark’s parliament adopted a new climate law on Friday, committing to reach 70% below its 1990 emissions in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Public sector dysfunction should not be allowed to undermine freedom of information
    Another day, another piece of legislation with a secrecy clause. This time its the innocuous-seeming Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission Bill, which (after establishing a new body and making it subject to the OIA in three different ways) includes the rapidly-becoming-standard clauses enabling it to request information from other public ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • “This is England, this knife of Sheffield steel…”
    The state of the United Kingdom is fractured, torn up, shredded. The Empire is gone, it died a long time ago. And yet, the country is still tracking with a lead in favour of the ones who play to the ingrained, class-bound division for political gain. It is a disgrace ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    5 days ago
  • CORSIA, coming soon to an airport near you
    On 27 September, Greta Thunberg addressed a crowd of 500,000 at the School Strike for Climate in Montreal, saying: “You are a nation that is allegedly a climate leader. And Sweden is also a nation that is allegedly a climate leader. And in both cases, it means absolutely nothing. Because ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    6 days ago
  • Cloaking hate speech and fake news in the right to free expression.
    It should be obvious by now but let’s be clear: The same folk who regularly traffic in disinformation, misinformation and “fake news” are also those who most strongly claim that their freedom of expression rights are being violated when moves are made to curb hate speech (as opposed to protected ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • The Physics (and Economics, and Politics) of Wheelchairs on Planes
    Michael Schulson When Shane Burcaw flies on an airplane, he brings along a customized gel cushion, a car seat, and about 10 pieces of memory foam. The whole arsenal costs around $1,000, but for Burcaw it’s a necessity. The 27-year-old author and speaker — who, alongside his fiancée, Hannah ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • To Advance Civil Rights, Oppose Transgender Extremism
    We are very pleased to publish this submission is from Lucinda Stoan. She is a social justice activist, mother, and educator, based in Washington State in the  US.   This detailed and comprehensive source-linked overview of trans issues and what is at stake will be useful for many people, especially in ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Faafoi should be fired
    Newshub last night reported that Broadcasting Minister Kris Faafoi had apparently promised to help out a mate with an immigration issue. While its normal for people to approach MPs for assistance in this area, when you're a Minister, the rules are different: as the Cabinet Manual says, Ministers must "at ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Adrian Orr – The Reserve Bank’s Revolutionary Governor?
    New Zealand's Underarm Banker: It bears recalling that the “independence” of the Reserve Bank Governor was for decades held up by neoliberal capitalists as the most compelling justification for passing the Reserve Bank Act. Interesting, is it not, how the ruling class’s support for the Bank’s independence lasted no longer than ...
    7 days ago
  • Driving Us Up The Poll.
    Rubbish In, Rubbish Out: Put all this together, and it’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that anyone who responds positively to a pollster’s request to “answer a few questions” is just ever-so-slightly weird. Desperately lonely? Some sort of psephological train-spotter? Political party member primed to skew the poll for or against ...
    7 days ago
  • Jordan Williams, Colin Craig podcast series announced
    “Free at last, Free at last, Thank God almighty we are free at last.” ― Martin Luther King Jr. A long and bitter court feud between former Conservative Party leader Colin Craig and Jordan Williams has been settled, with an apology and compensation from Williams. On Tuesday, Craig sent out ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • How plant-based meat is stretching New Zealand’s cultural and legal boundaries
    Samuel Becher, Victoria University of Wellington and Jessica C Lai, Victoria University of Wellington Earlier this year, the New Zealand-based pizza chain Hell Pizza offered a limited-edition “Burger Pizza”. Its customers weren’t told that the “meat” was plant-based. Some customers complained to the Commerce Commission, which enforces consumer law in ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Scientific integrity requires critical investigation – not blind acceptance
    Some people seem to want to close down any critical discussion of the current research into the relationship between water fluoride and child IQ. They appear to argue that claims made by researchers should not be open to critical review and that the claims be accepted without proper consideration ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The shameful reality
    The government has been congratulating itself over the passage of the Zero Carbon Act, which sets out long-term emissions targets. Meanwhile, Climate Action Tracker has the shameful reality: those targets are insufficient:While New Zealand is showing leadership by having passed the world’s second-ever Zero Carbon Act in November 2019, under ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More secrecy
    The government introduced a Racing Industry Bill today. As an urban who horse racing as pointless-to-cruel, and gambling as a tax on stupidity and/or hope, this isn't normally a bill which would interest me in the slightest, beyond grumpiness at more government money for a dying industry. But there is ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Unlikely online bully, Liam Hehir
    Check. Check. One, two, three, four. Is this thing ON? Hello readers, I logged in last night (yeah, it’s been a while) to mark THE END of the landmark legal case, Jordan Williams v Colin Craig, which (gulp) reached The Supreme Court, in which New Zealand’s most-defamed man was suing the politician he ...
    The PaepaeBy Peter Aranyi
    1 week ago
  • The Birth Of Israel: Wrong At The Right Time.
    Before The Birth: Israel’s most fervent supporters set their clocks ticking in Biblical times. They cite the kingdoms of David and Solomon as proof that, in the words of the Exodus movie’s theme-song: “This land is mine.” The majority of Israel’s backers, however, start their clocks in 1933 – the year Adolf ...
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: Public Address Word of the Year 2019: Korero phase
    In an unreliable, strange and confusing world, Public Address is proud to present a measure of comfort and stability by annually asking everyone what words or phrases sum up the year that's been – and then giving some of them consumer goods as prizes for being clever or simply lucky.Well, ...
    1 week ago
  • Generalist to specialist
    Both my parents are pretty handy – and they seem to have the right tools for most jobs in the garage and they know how to fix practically anything. A similar story could be told about their generation’s experience in the workforce – being a generalist was not unusual and ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • A “coincidence”
    When it was revealed that NZ First had tried to enrich itself from public office via the Provoncial Growth Fund, the Prime Minister assured us that everything was OK as Shane Jones, the Minister responsible for the fund, had recused himself. Except it seems that that recusal came very late ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day
    Today is a Member's Day, and probably the last one of the year. After the marathon of the End of Life Choice Act, most of the bills up for debate today are uncontentious. First up is the second reading of Chlöe Swarbrick's Election Access Fund Bill. This will be followed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Worse than I thought
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has reported back on the government's odious and tyrannical control orders bill. As expected, the fraudulent select committee process has made no significant changes (partly because they couldn't agree, but mostly because it was a stitch-up from the start, with no intention of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The cannabis bill and the referendum
    Yesterday, the government released its draft Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill, which will be put to a non-binding referendum at the next election. I'm not a drug policy expert, but Russell Brown is, and he thinks its pretty good. And pretty obviously, it will be a massive improvement on the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Hard News: The Cannabis Legalisation and Control Bill: pretty good so far
    As you're probably aware, the draft bill outlining the proposed legal cannabis regime to be put to a referendum late next year was published yesterday, and has already attracted a flurry of comment. It's notable that a good deal of the comment is about proposals that aren't actually new.A minimum ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Alignment
    One of the big problems in New Zealand climate change policy is the government working at cross-purposes with itself. It wants to reduce fossil fuel use, but encourages oil and gas exploration. It wants to reduce transport emissions, but then builds enormous new roads. The problem could be avoided if ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • How climate change will affect food production and security
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz According to the United Nations, food shortages are a threat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • More bad faith
    Last year, the government announced it was ending offshore oil exploration by no longer issuing new permits. The idea was that the industry would then die off as permits expired. Except almost immediately the government revealed its bad faith, by saying they would extend permits and alter conditions to keep ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Banning foreign money from our elections
    The government has said it will ban foreign donations to political parties and candidates, and will be introducing legislation to be passed under all-stages urgency this afternoon. While I agree with the goal, I don't see a particular case for urgency, unless the government is concerned about a flood of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Reforming the Education Acts
    The government introduced the Education and Training Bill to Parliament yesterday. Its a massive bill, which replaces both existing Education Acts, as well as various other bits of legislation (including some which are still proceeding through the House). I'll leave the serious analysis to teachers and people who actually know ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Bite-sized learning
    Amelia SharmanThere’s no one-size-fits-all when it comes to micro-credentials, those bits of bite-sized learning that can help workers stay on top of technological change.  What’s a micro-credential? While definitions vary, micro-credentials can be understood as short courses that allow people to learn new skills or have an existing competency recognised. ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • “Not The Labour Party We Once Knew.”
    All Smiles Now: Claire Szabo is taking up her presidential role after serving as the CEO of Habitat For Humanity. Which is absolutely perfect! After KiwiBuild was so comprehensively mismanaged by Phil Twyford, the party has not only elected a new president from a thoroughly respectable not-for-profit, but one who ...
    1 week ago
  • Marxist versus liberal methodology on transgender ideology/identity politics
    While much of the NZ left has transitioned to postmodern and identity politics in relation to transgender ideology, there are some very good articles about that deploy Marxist methodology in relation to this subject.  The one below is from the British marxist group Counterfire and appeared on their site here ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Book review: The Farm by Joanne Ramos
    by Daphna Whitmore At Golden Oaks, a luxurious country retreat in the Hudson Valley, pregnant women have the best care money can buy. From the organic food, personalised exercise programmes, private yoga instruction and daily massages Golden Oaks looks like a country lodge for the upper class. Set some time ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Loosening the purse strings
    When Labour was running for election in 2017, it felt it needed to demonstrate "fiscal responsibility" and signed itself up to masochistic "budget responsibility rules". It was a fool's errand: the sorts of voters who demand fiscal responsibility are also the sorts of voters who believe that labour can never ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: How to get there
    Writing in Stuff, Joel MacManus looks at what we need to do to meet the Zero Carbon Act's targets. The core of it:1. Convert 85 per cent of vehicles on the road to electric. 2. Eliminate fossil fuels from all industrial heating up to 300 degrees Celsius. 3. Double our ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • anti-vaxxers in a measles epidemic: so many ways to be untruthful
    “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa over the past twenty-four hours. “Anti-vaxers are a pro-death movement,” those comments from Dr Helen Petousis-Harris speaking about six more Measles related deaths in Samoa ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 weeks ago
  • Is Youth Vaping a Problem in New Zealand?
    Professors Janet Hoek and Richard Edwards, Emeritus Professor Phil Gendall, Jude Ball, Dr Judith McCool, Anaru Waa, Dr Becky Freeman Recent media reports have presented conflicting evidence on youth vaping in NZ. While some NZ school principals report concerns about increasing vaping on school grounds and confiscating vapes, ASH Year ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • In pursuit of “Freedom and Democracy”: Forever Wars in “America’s backyard”.
    “America the Beautiful!”, staunch defender of democracy, freedom and… a whole lot of despotic tyrants that play nice with what is called “the Washington Consensus.” America is indeed capable of immense good, but like any Nation, and most assuredly any aspirant to the mantle of Empire, great, immense evil. All ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • November ’19 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    Image credit: The beginner’s guide to blogging I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Whodunnit? Finding the mystery 1080 testing lab
    1080 is used to control pests in NZ. Its use is contested by a noisy few. A new report claims high levels of 1080 in rats washed up on a beach. Flora and Fauna of Aotearoa (F&F) won’t name the laboratory that did their testing. It has sparked a hunt ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 weeks ago
  • Authoritarian Friends, Democratic Enemies.
    What Kind Of Empire? The thing for Kiwis to decide is what kind of empire they want to belong to. The kind that, while offering its own citizens democratic rights, demands absolute obedience from its “friends”? Or, the kind that, while authoritarian at home, takes a relaxed attitude to the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Boris Johnson Goes Down
    It hasn't been a good week for the Conservatives, pollwise.  All major recent polls are showing their lead shrinking.Comparing each pollster's current (between 29/11 and 22/11) and previous most recent poll.Com Res - Conservative lead down 3 points.You Gov - Conservative lead down 1 point.Kantar - Conservative lead down 4 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Interesting
    Within quick succession, Countdown maths wizard and twitterer Rachel Riley, alleged comedian David Baddiel and prominent lawyer Andrew Julius have all expressed very similar opinions / ideas:
    These #3billboards are going round London today, organised by ex-Labour people, horrified by what their party has become. Their principles haven’t changed, they’re ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Damn the Polls
    So, there have been a bunch of bad polls out for Labour, and even the Leftie's friend, Survation, have recently given the Conservatives a rip-snorting 11% lead.  You Gov's much vaunted MRP poll - which pretty much nailed the result in 2015 - is currently predicting a comfortable majority for ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Europe declares an emergency
    The European Parliament has voted overwhelmingly to declare a climate emergency:The European parliament has declared a global “climate and environmental emergency” as it urged all EU countries to commit to net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. The vote came as scientists warned that the world may have already crossed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Bi-Partisan Commitment To X-ing “P”.
    Pure Fear: Worse than Heroin, this drug’s addictive power was terrifying. People under its influence didn’t drift off to Elysium. Nor did it persuade inadequate individuals that they could conquer the world. No, this drug – pure crystal methamphetamine, “P” for short – unlocked the gates of Hell itself. It ...
    2 weeks ago

  • Government takes bite out of loan sharks
    The days of vulnerable consumers falling victim to loan sharks, truck shops and other predatory lenders are numbered, following the Credit Contracts Legislation Amendment Bill passing its third reading tonight. “Too many Kiwis are being given loans that are unaffordable and unsuitable, trapping them in debt and leaving their families ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago
  • New Zealand safer as Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders Bill) becomes law
    A Bill that prevents terrorism and supports the de-radicalisation of New Zealanders returning from overseas has passed its third reading, Justice Minister Andrew Little says. The Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill is a carefully targeted response to manage the risk posed by a small number of New Zealanders who have ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • Foreign Minister and Pacific Peoples Minister to visit Samoa
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio will travel to Samoa on Friday, where New Zealand medical teams are helping Samoa respond to an outbreak of measles. “New Zealand has been working closely with the Government of Samoa and offering our assistance from the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • New Pastoral Care Code will support tertiary students in 2020
    The Government has changed the law to improve student safety and welfare in university halls of residence and other student accommodation. The Education (Pastoral Care) Amendment Bill passed its third reading this afternoon and details of an interim Code of Practice setting out the Government’s expectations of tertiary providers have also been released. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • New infrastructure funding tool to build housing developments faster
    A new tool to help councils fund and finance infrastructure could mean some housing developments happen a decade earlier than currently planned, Urban Development Minister Phil Twyford said today. “This new tool, developed by the Government in partnership with industry and high-growth councils, will allow councils to access private debt ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Vision to unite the primary sector launched today
    Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has welcomed the release of a bold new vision for the country’s vital food and fibre sector. “I’m delighted that New Zealand’s major farmer and grower organisations are today supporting the Primary Sector Council’s vision – Fit for a Better World,” he said. “The international consumers ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • NZ congratulates PNG and Autonomous Bougainville Government on referendum
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has congratulated the Government of Papua New Guinea and the Autonomous Bougainville Government for completing a well-conducted referendum on the future political status of Bougainville. “New Zealand supported the referendum process by providing technical advice through the New Zealand Electoral Commission and leading a Regional Police ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • Next steps for Upper North Island logistics
    In light of Cabinet’s position that freight operations on prime land in downtown Auckland are no longer viable, the Government will now embark on a short work programme to enable decision-making in the first half of next year, Associate Transport Minister Shane Jones says. Minister Jones is today releasing the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • Surgical mesh restorative justice report received
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter has received the report back from a surgical mesh restorative justice process undertaken by Victoria University. The process heard stories, either in person or online submission, from more than 600 people affected by surgical mesh. “The report made for heart-breaking and confronting reading,” says ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai a milestone for drinking water safety
    The Water Services Regulator Bill – Taumata Arowai , introduced to Parliament today, is a milestone for drinking water safety in New Zealand and will help improve environmental outcomes for urban waterways, rivers and lakes.  “This is a breakthrough for New Zealanders in terms of providing safe drinking water throughout ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Speech to new direction for criminal justice reform announcement
    Kia ora koutouE ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā matā wakaTēnā koutou katoaHaere ngā, moe maiKoutou ma ngā Rangatira Ko Anaru ahauKo au te Minita mo ngā TureHe Honore tino nui kei roto I ahau No reira tena koutou katoa Today, we are releasing two reports that are the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • New direction for criminal justice reform
    The Government is looking to turn around the long-term challenges of criminal justice by taking a new approach to break the cycle of offending to ensure there are fewer victims of crime. Justice Minister Andrew Little released two reports today, Turuki! Turuki! from Te Uepū Hāpai I te Ora, and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • New law sets up $300m Venture Capital Fund
    New Zealand firms expanding beyond the start-up phase are set for more support after today’s passage of the Venture Capital Fund Bill, Associate Finance Minister David Parker said. The Bill, which establishes a $300 million Venture Capital Fund, puts in place a key initiative of the Wellbeing Budget’s economic package. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand’s National Statement to COP25
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā iwi, e ngā rau rangatira mā. Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa. Señora Presidenta, Excellencies, Delegates. International action A common thread that runs through the Paris Agreement is the commitment we have made to each other to do what we can to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • $12 billion in extra infrastructure investment
    The Government is lifting capital investment to the highest level in more than 20 years as it takes the next step to future-proof New Zealand. Finance Minister Grant Robertson has announced $12 billion of new investment, with $8 billion for specific capital projects and $4 billion to be added to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Strong economy, careful spending gives $12bn of surpluses
    The Government is forecast to run $12 billion worth of surpluses across the four years to 2023/24 as the economy continues to grow. The surpluses will help fund day-to-day capital requirements each year. These include fixing leaky hospitals, building new classrooms to cover population growth and take pressure off class ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Priorities for 2020 Wellbeing Budget outlined
    Budget 2020 will continue the Coalition Government’s focus on tackling the long-term challenges facing New Zealand while also investing to future-proof the economy. When the Government took office in 2017 it was left with crumbling infrastructure, severe underinvestment in public services, degraded rivers and lakes, a housing crisis and rising ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Minister welcomes data-rich coastline mapping tool
    The Minister responsible for the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Act 2011 (te Takutai Moana Act 2011), Andrew Little has welcomed the launch of an online geospatial tool that provides data-rich, dynamic coastline maps that will significantly boost research and evidence-gathering under the Act. Te Kete Kōrero a Te ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Chief Victims Advisor reappointed for a further two years
    The Chief Victims Advisor to Government Dr Kim McGregor, QSO, has been reappointed in her role for a further two years. Dr McGregor has held the role since it was established in November 2015. She provides independent advice to government on how to improve the criminal justice system for victims. ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • New Zealand tsunami monitoring and detection system to be established
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Civil Defence Minister Peeni Henare have today announced the deployment of a network of DART (Deep-ocean Assessment and Reporting of Tsunami) buoys. “New Zealand and the Pacific region are particularly vulnerable to natural disasters. It is vital we have adequate warning systems in place,” ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • DART Buoys Announcement
    DART Buoys Announcement Aotea Wharf, 9.30am 11 December 2019   Acknowledgements Acknowledgements to Minister for Civil Defence Hon Peeni Henare also here today. White Island It is with regret that this event shadows the tragic natural disaster two days ago. The volcanic eruptions on White Island have claimed 5 lives, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Final steps for racing industry reform
    Racing Minister Winston Peters has welcomed the first reading of the Racing Industry Bill in parliament today. This is the second of two Bills that have been introduced this year to revitalise New Zealand’s racing industry. “Our domestic racing industry has been in serious decline.  The Government is committed to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Funding to promote New Zealand Sign Language initiatives
    Minister for Disability Issues, Carmel Sepuloni, is pleased to announce that $291,321 is to be awarded to national and local community initiatives to maintain and promote the use of New Zealand Sign Language (NZSL). “New Zealand is one of the few countries  in the world where Sign Language is an ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • How New Zealand defines and recognises veterans
    Minister for Veterans Ron Mark has announced today the Coalition Government’s initial response to work completed by the independent statutory body, the Veterans’ Advisory Board. “When Professor Ron Paterson completed his review of the Veterans’ Support Act in 2018, he made a number of recommendations, including one which I referred ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government to fund lion’s share of Ohakea water scheme
    The Government will fund the bulk of the cost of a rural water supply for the Ohakea community affected by PFAS contamination, Environment Minister David Parker announced today at a meeting of local residents. This new water scheme will provide a reliable and clean source of drinking water to the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Prime Minister statement on White Island eruption
    I have had the opportunity to be briefed on the details of the volcanic eruption of Whakaari/White Island, off the coast of Whakatane in the Bay of Plenty.  The eruption happened at 2.11pm today.  It continues to be an evolving situation.  We know that there were a number of tourists ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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