Garner rips useless Nats

Written By: - Date published: 12:00 pm, September 15th, 2011 - 76 comments
Categories: disaster, john key, sport, transport - Tags: , ,

Duncan Garner has demolished the government’s disgraceful excuse-making over its woeful lack of preparation  for the World Cup:

For the Government to point the finger at the Auckland Council for the debacle on the woeful Waterfront last Friday is a cop-out.

It’s not just the fault of the hopeless Council. Rugby World Cup Minister Murray McCully must share the blame. Party Central was his Government’s idea. His Government and the Council invited the world to join the party at the Waterfront last Friday.

The Rugby World Cup is the third biggest sporting event on earth. Why was anyone surprised when hundreds of thousands turned up? I was there. It was scary. It was a disgrace. There were few police. There were no barriers. It was NOT family friendly. It was a tragedy waiting to happen.

And that’s just Party Central. That’s the bit the Government was responsible for. Don’t forget that.

Waka rowers get beaten up by the crowd and John Key says everything went perfectly. What a clown.

The transport was equally as bad. The train issue has been widely reported. But the buses haven’t. There were no buses. It was not obvious where the buses were leaving from.

This has to change. International tourists were asking me where the buses to Eden Park were. I was embarrassed I didn’t know. I told them to follow me as we walked up Queen Street – hoping like hell we’d find one. We did. One, I repeat, one bus, was sitting outside the Civic Theatre.

National took public transport out of the Council’s control and gave it to an autonomous body, Auckland Transport. National appointed the people to run that organisation.

It was like inviting 500 people to your house for a party. Only 50 could fit into the room. And worse still, you’d only catered for 20.

McCully is a micro-manager. He always has been. He even chose the colour of the volunteers’ uniform.

As Trevor Mallard said, maybe McCully should have spent more time on the real planning and less time picking the colour of the shirt for Key to mince in. And, given what happened on Friday, doesn’t that video now stand as the ultimate example of show over substance from Key.

The success of this World Cup, both on and off the field, is crucial to National’s re-election campaign. That’s why they linked the Pacific Islands Forum to the Opening Ceremony. That’s why all the leaders wore black. That’s why Key spoke at the Opening Ceremony. An unsuccessful tournament will affect National. It has hitched it’s re-election horse to this event, well and truly.

But that was then – this is now – and it’s all changed.

So what to make of McCully’s takeover of the Auckland waterfront under the RWC legislation?

Well firstly, his decision to snub Len Brown yesterday by not telling him of the decision is remarkably arrogant in my opinion.

Brown and his Council are partners in all this. Sure, they both got it woefully wrong last Friday, but surely a phone call – or shared press conference was the minimum required.

By taking the tournament over, McCully can’t really lose. Never again will 200,000 people descend on the waterfront, so McCully is safe there.

How many are they planning for a final with the All Blacks in it? 50,000 like last Friday?

More buses will be put on. The trains are arguably still the weak point, but no doubt they will be less trouble than last Friday. So McCully will probably look successful this weekend, and for the rest of the tournament, because the pressure point has been and gone. He really can’t lose.

But in my view, he has already lost and so has the Council.

Last weekend has left a bitter taste in many mouths. Party Central looks great, but it was never built for 200,000 people.

Wouldn’t fan zones in other parts of Auckland have been a great idea to take the pressure off the waterfront? It would also take the pressure off the transport systems. Why was the “big screen” set up across the road rather than down the side of the road? It effectively cut off fifty thousand people. Half the crowd was looking into the back of the wires? Who allowed that to happen?

Party Central appears like a great concept. But in so many ways it’s flawed, largely because it’s 4.5 kms away from Eden Park. It’s so damn hard to get from one to the other. A waterfront stadium would have solved this problem.

Funny, The Standard has been mocking this idea from the start. Nice to see everyone else catching up. Also, Labour proposed a Waterfront stadium. National kicked up such a fuss it got dropped.

Auckland needed a legacy after this Rugby World Cup. A downtown or waterfront stadium would have been that legacy. … We got the collapsible Cloud worth $9.5m and a half arsed upgrade of Eden Park, with seats that will come down on October 24, the day after the final. We have a few upgraded provincial stadiums. So what.

But we will be left with an argument over what to do with Queens Wharf – a huge Auckland stadium that can’t host concerts because it’s in the suburbs, and a train system that is no better than what it was before the World Cup.

That’s the legacy of this World Cup. Hopeless central and local body politicians who failed to take a big decision when it mattered – who failed to give us a legacy.

That’s what you get when you put a donkey in charge.

76 comments on “Garner rips useless Nats”

  1. Colonial Viper 1

    A fully kitted out, double tracked electrified train system in AKL would have been the best, most lasting legacy of this world cup. A modern city kitted out with a modern public transport system able to handle large modern events with aplomb.

    Too bad thinking about waka and big screens is about the limit of the country’s abilities to plan ahead nowadays.

    • infused 1.1

      Or not having a stadium in the middle of no-where.

    • HC 1.2

      CV: Maybe this can be done? Perhaps talk to and sign up a big deal with Siemens, enter a “joint venture” (taking ideas and technology based here to SE Asia and further) and build it right here for future transport developments. They got peed off by China stealing some of their technology, NZ is supposed to be “honest’, so why not try and get somewhere.

      They may build a “trial system” for next to nothing to show off to other interested parties?

      Perhaps allow in a thousand highly qualified migrants from Germany to get things moving, rather than simply rely on Pacific quota and family category immigration from certain other countries to make the numbers?

      What a bloody daring thought? Perhaps at last NZ gains and gets ahead somehow?

      We can only help the worse off if we can help ourselves and manage our affairs better, so we must the the migration balance right, for sure! The rest may come pretty much free of charge. What has NZ to lose, we already lost so bloody much!

      Deport McCully, Key and Joyce for a start, they are no bloody good, are they!?

      • Ianupnorth 1.2.1

        Seimens don’t fund the Nats or the IRB, but heineken does, spots the synergies!

        • HC 1.2.1.1

          Maybe the chief organisers AND Murray McGully get free supplies of Heineker for the whole RWC period? That may explain the poor performance of some, especially that of the micro managing minister. He may have been too busy drinking and too drunk for most of the time, so he may actually have been unable to do his job.

    • In Vino Veritas 1.3

      Light rail Colonial? Hasnt that been a disaster in other places round the world? My recollection (flawed as it may be in my old age) is the Edinburgh were going to spend $870m and with three quarters of the budget gone and only a third of the infrastructure in place, they’ve decided to drastically shorten the routes. Even then they need to stump up with another $438m.
      How ’bout St Clair, Toronto, Canada? Estimated costs $48m, final $106m. Cost over runs are all too common and if the central government doesnt come up with the funding, guess which mugs have to put in? Light rail is notoriously expensive. It is not also a panacea, since it doesnt magically make people stop driving cars.

  2. For a start its not the third biggest event on earth, it wasnt a tragic event, no one died, a bunch of drunken rugby fans keep pussing stop buttons on trains and a small percentage people missed the opening ceremony which consisted of a snot face punk ass kid, who directly copied the girl from the 2000 olympic ceremony in Australia.

    Its not tragic that someone missed a rugby match.

    • Kevin Welsh 2.1

      Fucking hell Brett. For once I agree with you.

    • Lanthanide 2.2

      Seems I’m not the only one who saw the “rugby boy” for what it was – direct plagiarism from Australia, and not nearly as well done.

      I liked how the media was saying the boy was going to be “a big star” in the future. All he did was run around a stadium for a few minutes and get suspended by some wires.

      In contrast, the Oz 2000 Olympics girl actually displayed her singing talent and made a truly memorable opening ceremony. This silly thing will be forgotten in 6 months time.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Webster

    • bbfloyd 2.3

      little brett…. you do realise that you’ve just exposed yourself to the world as a whining, ignorant, halfwitted, reactionary dittohead,…… don’t you?

      you do realise that you’ve effectively given credence to every criticism made on the governments behavior since they were handed this golden opportunity to showcase nz?

      yes, it is a shambles…. exactly as people in positions to know have been warning it would be… yes, johnny sparkle and his pet mauricehound have blatantly milked every perceived political advantage out of it……

      yes…. it has been noted by the leaders of the pacific forum how sparkle pants tried to use them as props for his little charades… to the point of making complaints about it( denigrated by the herald for it), but were obviously feeling put on enough to break protocol and speak out….

      yes…. they have behaved like overindulged,immature boys in showing a complete inability to accept responsibility…. using our “fourth column” to shift blame elsewhere…

      and no…. nobody was fooled for a second… except for a few deluded, and possibly mentally challenged reactionary tragics….

      the tragedy is that, yet again, new zealands reputation takes another hammering…. the ordinary people of this country will do us proud, as usual, and make people feel welcome, and leave good impressions with our guests from around the world…. but don’t kid yourself…. these people aren’t total fools…… they know a con job when they see one…. and johnny has shown himself for what he is… a great big nothing……

      we can now confidently assert that without sparkles and morrie the poodle,, this would have been massively better organised…. but we have now watched our democratically (popularly)elected mayor, and council,( that have been set up with a structure that has been imposed on us by the same people criticising that same structure)…. publicly, and mercilessly humiliated for no more than political expedience…..

      “craven dogs” is the only accurate description for these cowards…..

      • Brett Dale 2.3.1

        bbfloyd:

        That’s what she said.

      • HC 2.3.2

        What an utter embarrasment it was to see John Key seize the opportunity to manipulate the Pacific Forum leaders into wearing absolutely ugly black jackets and pants, vaguely but not properly resembling All Black uniforms. What a waste of money on that too. As I heard, all the attending leaders were very embarrassed about wearing these. John Key as fashion expert? No thanks!

    • RedLogix 2.4

      Its not tragic that someone missed a rugby match.

      True, no-one died. But many people who were there feel that this was more a matter of good luck than good management. Think back to the English football stadium disasters; those places had been operating unsafely for years before fate caught up with them. Did that make them safe? No… just accidents waiting to happen.

      Safe event management and crowd control are these days well understood, well proven protocols… there is no excuse for an event of this magnitude to even faintly whiff of incompetence.

      • Brett Dale 2.4.1

        RedLogix:

        It didnt happen though.

        • Lanthanide 2.4.1.1

          I guess the September 4th earthquake wasn’t a tragedy either, then.

          • Brett Dale 2.4.1.1.1

            Lanthanide:

            Your comparing the stept4th earthquake with people missing a rugby game?

            • Lanthanide 2.4.1.1.1.1

              You simply said that something isn’t a tragedy unless someone died.

              No one died in the September 4th quake, so following your statement to its logical conclusion, it can’t have been a tragedy.

              I’m just pointing out the logical conclusion of your statement. If you don’t agree with that logical conclusion, perhaps you should change your statement.

              • Vicky32

                You simply said that something isn’t a tragedy unless someone died.
                No one died in the September 4th quake, so following your statement to its logical conclusion, it can’t have been a tragedy.

                Sadly, I have to agree with Brett. A tragedy, pretty much by defintion is when someone dies, or lots of someones, or truly awful life-changing events (such as being disfigured or disabled in an accident) happen to someone. Missing a sodding thugby match doesn’t begin to compare! RedLogix points out that something like the Hillsborough disaster could have happened – but it didn’t.

                • Hanswurst

                  Garner writes that, due to the lack of barriers and relative lack of police, “It was a tragedy waiting to happen.” That is actually pretty much what you have just written, i. e. “Something bad that could have happened but didn’t.”

                  • rosy

                    So your expectations are so low that if a tragedy didn’t happen, it’s a success. Good on you – easily pleased.

                    • Hanswurst

                      No, that has nothing to do with what I was saying. I was pointing out that all this bluster on the part of Brett Dale about “tragedy” being hyperbole is a trivial waste of time, because that isn’t what Garner wrote. Garner was saying that, as someone who was there, he felt that there was the potential for a real tragedy – people being seriously injured or killed. That statement had nothing to do with missing the rugby.

                    • rosy

                      Sorry Hanswurst, yes I agree with you, I don’t agree that the chaos is something to dismiss just because there wasn’t a tragedy. It was poor planning and poor management. Everyone who was there deserved better IMO.

                  • insider

                    OMIGOD! a tabloid jounalist thought SOMEONE COULD HAVE DIED!!! That must make it true, because he is qualified as a guy who appears on TV!!

            • Mutante 2.4.1.1.1.2

              Brett, are you having some sort of competition with Pete George for the most mind-numbingly tedious poster of the year or something?

          • Vicky32 2.4.1.1.2

            I guess the September 4th earthquake wasn’t a tragedy either, then.

            Oh come on, don’t be so precious! That’s not what he said… and no, compared to the Feb 22nd earthquake, and the March 8 Japanese earthquake, the Sep 4th one wasn’t. A tragedy is when people die, not when houses get disturbed!

        • RedLogix 2.4.1.2

          Even you know that’s a pathetic evasion Brett.

          Directly analogous to telling a cop whose just caught you driving down a suburban street at 120k that it’s all ok because….’no-one was killed’.

          • Brett Dale 2.4.1.2.1

            They didn’t break a law though?

            Don t get me wrong it was a fuck up, but its not tragic that someone missed a rugby game.

            • McFlock 2.4.1.2.1.1

              Actually they probably did break several laws: safety and health in the workplace (insufficient hazard management i.e. crowd control), Sale of Liquor Act (grossly intoxicated persons served/on premises), criminal nuisance/reckless endagerment (poor crowd control and drunk people in close proximity to a harbour), and so on.

              Not that I expect anything to happen as a result.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.5

      Tragedy; tragic: It doesn’t have to do with death.
      Farce is another good word or I suppose we could always call it a black comedy although that, IMO, doesn’t really fit as well.

      • Brett Dale 2.5.1

        Draco:

        A tragic event is something causes pain and suffering to people. I would call what happened last week, a muck up, a balls up, poor planning, hard luck for those people, but its not tragic.

        • Draco T Bastard 2.5.1.1

          As you obviously didn’t read the definition.

          a dramatic composition, often in verse, dealing with a serious or somber theme,

          the tragic element of drama, of literature generally, or of life

        • Lanthanide 2.5.1.2

          “A tragic event is something causes pain and suffering to people.”

          Waka participants being put into hospital after being bashed by drunken crowds aren’t suffering and have no pain, I suppose?

          • Brett Dale 2.5.1.2.1

            Lanthanide:

            That was disgusting, and I hope those child and woman bashers get arrested and face a long jail sentence.

            • McFlock 2.5.1.2.1.1

              Before you get too distracted by your right-wing tendency to demand medieval punishments for all offenses, please answer L’s question.

              • McFlock

                Medieval punishments???

                I do hope they get jail sentences for physically assaulting people. It was awful with what happen to them and tragic.

                Its not tragic though that someone didnt make it to the rugby on time.

                • McFlock

                  Ah, so although it DID cause pain and suffering to people, it’s not “tragic”? Yep, I’m being pedantic, simply because this is typical behaviour of NACT acolytes – shift the goalposts, and if you didn’t shift ’em far enough, go off on an insensible sentencing tangent or just plain shift ’em again.

                  • McFlock

                    The entire thing was a clusterfuck in an international arena, involving assaults and endangerment on a grand scale. You focus on 2000 people being put out (how much were the tickets – hundreds of dollars each?) to minimise the issue.
                    Nice one.

                    • Armchair Critic

                      how much were the tickets – hundreds of dollars each?
                      Should have put the money into a finance company – then the government would have reimbursed the cost.

    • Ari 2.6

      By the by, on at least one of those trains, somebody was in danger of passing out from the heat- which is a pretty good reason to be pressing the emergency button.

    • Ianupnorth 2.7

      Well it was designed by the Aussie’s – Key et al gave the contract out overseas

      BTW this refers to the original comment about the light show and the snotty nosed kid – how it got down here I know not!

  3. kriswgtn 3

    0 no theres that hideii mincing fuknuckle

    made me blind hahahahha 😛

  4. Steve Wrathall 4

    Please explain how it would have worked better if Trevor Mallard’s $1 billion waterfront bedpan had been build and everyone had headed for that.

    • bbfloyd 4.1

      steve…..the chances of it being competently and realistically organised go up exponentially once sparkle pants and morrie the poodle are taken out of the picture…..

      further explanation would simply confuse you, so i won’t bother….. as you are simply attempting (weakly) to divert attention from the reality of your hero’s utter incompetence and total lack of principle….

      you are actually helping to highlight it by your obstinate insistence on defending the indefensible…

      thanks for that…. you make it much easier for us to drive that stake in…..

    • Ianupnorth 4.2

      Because all roads lead to Rome (or indeed britomart). The stadium was to be on the waterfront near Britomart, where all the trains arrive and depart in all directions, plus the ferries from the shore.

  5. randal 5

    why doesnt garner tell the truth. it was all about a whole lot of mcullys and keys mates getting drunk while the have nots stood around outside looking in. as Dave Letterman would say; “this is why the whole world hates us”.

    • bbfloyd 5.1

      that would cross over from quiet criticism designed to show “objectivity” into “real” journalism…. let’s not be getting too idealistic…..

  6. Lanthanide 6

    Did we ever find out what exactly it is that Key is saying in that Prime Mincer clip?

  7. Irascible 7

    The reality is that the RWC is nothing more than a showcase for the clothing manufacturers and the breweries that sponsor the professional business that is “sport”. NZ has become a failed pawn in a long playing commercial devoted to selling over priced sports-wear and alcohol.
    We shouldn’t have bought into the fiasco from the beginning.

  8. toad 8

    Meanwhile, Murray McCully seizes control of Dan Carter’s back, Richie McCaw’s calf, Mills Muliaina’s hamstring & Israel Dagg’s ab muscles.

  9. randal 9

    and thats not all.

  10. Shona 10

    Right Toad. Let’s focus on the relevant issues.
    It’s a bloody worry so early in proceedings that key players are pulling up lame.

    • mik e 10.1

      Its follow the lame leaders
      McCully side steps
      Key kicks for touch
      Williamson gets pinged for foul play
      Joyce is late for training
      The crowd goes wild

  11. Afewknowthetruth 11

    The success if RWC will be measured in terms of additional beer sales for Heineken. And perhaps the profitability of factories in China that have been churning out the crap that people have been buying in order to be ‘patriotic’.

    How soon before ‘now you can relive the moment’ [by buying DVDs and books] adverts start?

  12. ron 12

    All we can hope for now is that we lose the Cup. Preferably to Australia.

  13. higherstandard 13

    It was inevitable.

    Hitler as McCully in the downfall

    • freedom 13.1

      He’s right you know
      Berlin does have a very good train system 🙂

      • HC 13.1.1

        Berlin already had most of it before Hitler! So he and his party probably took use of it for their own purposes, after it was built by hard working Germans, who may have felt more sympathetic to Ernst Thalman of the KPD than the Nazis. Just another frivolous comment of so many in this forum. I would cherish if bloggers and commenters read and learned a bit more about true history. We have a great challenge ahead of us, and being sloppy will only result in failure.

  14. big bruv 14

    Yawn….

    The RWC was always going to be a national embarrassment irrespective of what government we have.

    We are Kiwi’s, the main event is being held in Auckland, history shows us that as a nation we could not organise a booze up in a brewery.

    I just cannot wait for the thing to be over, it will soon be cricket season and the start of real sport.

    Oh…and the election, I am really looking forward to seeing the demolition of the once proud Labour party.

  15. HC 15

    Well, com on guys. Fair enough abour Duncan Garner for once realising the shit tha tgoes on. But are you actually going to rely on gaining some favours from some media reporters or jornos to get understood and perhaps win the coming election?

    You must be bloody dreaming and wet behind your ears!

    This is all trivial debate, and if you want to hear what the street thinks and talks, go bloody well out there onto the streets. Blogs are good, but this is not enough.

    All those so smartly raising their voices and opinions here should bloody well go out and do their networking, their communication, their face to face talk, their own bits of convincing and whatever, rather than just compliment the odd journo saying, oh, JK is a jerk after all.

    Never trust the media, never rely on social media, the only effective communication will always be person to person, in the street, face to face, meeting to meeting, hearing to hearing and so forth. So I can only suggest to ALL, left, Labour, Green, NZ First, Mana, Maori Party, or who else has different ideas and convictions to Nat ACT, go OUT, spread your damned messages, talk, debate, discuss and take a bloody stand right now. The time has never been more important, because if you do not convince enough of admittedly too many complacent public members, then we will have our last few assets sold away from us below our bloody back-sides very, very soon. This election is one of the most important in NZ history! Take a bloody stand and take action!

  16. randal 16

    why are they running the national whining competitions at the same time as the RWC.

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    Its Suffrage Day, the 126th anniversary of women winning the right to vote (but not stand in elections) in New Zealand. And to celebrate, the government has bought Kate Sheppard's house in Christchurch:The government has bought Kate Sheppard's former home in Christchurch for more than $4 million. The Ilam villa ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Climate Change: Ostracising the coal-burners
    The UN climate summit is happening in new York next week, and unlike previous years, coal-burners and denier-states are not being invited to speak:Leading economies such as Japan and Australia will not be invited to speak at next week’s crunch UN climate change summit, as their continued support for coal ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    5 days ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    5 days ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    6 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
    Just when I was thinking that Palmerston North's mayoral race (which includes a convicted child molester / public wanker and a convicted child beater) was the worst in the country, Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere opened his mouth:Auckland mayoral candidate John Tamihere is being slammed for using the words "sieg ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    1 week ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    1 week ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    1 week ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    1 week ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    2 weeks ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago

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