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Giving with one hand, taking with the other

Written By: - Date published: 11:49 am, August 10th, 2008 - 30 comments
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I’ve gotta admit feeling a little bit sorry for Key over the story of his offer to donate “a good part” of his PM’s salary – should he win – to charity.

One of those cases of damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Crosby/Textor would be rightly concerned about the potential downside of Key having appeared in the NBR Rich List last month – I’ve already had several conversations with people ‘outside politics’ along these lines.

What better way to deal with the potential criticism than to offer to give up your salary? The problem for him, as Winston points out, is that it may be seen to smack slightly of desperation.

And things won’t be helped by today’s revelation that while attacking Labour for the “cronyism” of political appointments to diplomatic posts Key and McCully have been secretly negotiating a deal whereby Don Brash would be installed as the High Commissioner to London should they win.

The cost to the taxpayer? $600,000.

30 comments on “Giving with one hand, taking with the other”

  1. sean 1

    The cost to taxpayer? Nothing you muppet – as its not a new role. Hand meet forehead.

  2. higherstandard 2

    Interesting Brash would probably make quite a good high commissioner if that’s the case, although who knows until he’s actually appointed.

    But your post does raise the issue of politicians on all sides supplying jobs to their mates and cronies. This is endemic in NZ and if anything appears to have gained pace in recent times.

  3. gobsmacked 3

    It’s Smashie and Nicey!

  4. NX 4

    That’s reason enough on its own to vote for John Key – we get him for free!

    Don’t forget – Helen Clark is comfortably a multi-millionaire – especially when you take into account her tax-payer funded superannuation scheme she’s had for the last 26 years (every dollar that Helen contributes is topped-up by the tax payer to the value of ~$5).

    Also, have you heard the rumour that Crosby/textor staged the secret recordings in an effort to assure disgruntled right-wing voters…

  5. randal 5

    if brash goes to the uk will harrods or marks and spencers start selling numbered sliced baloney packs?

  6. coge 6

    Helen Clark herself, would be more that capable of taking one of the bigger diplomatic postings, like say London. NZ is a small country, there is not a huge pool of suitably experienced folk to choose from.

  7. coge 7

    Randal, perhaps Marks & Sparks could run a line of “Brashwear”

  8. Anita 8

    There is a huge difference between choosing a competent experienced High Commissioner and using the promise of a diplomatic post to smooth the way for a leadership change.

    This is not Key worrying about the London post and thinking of his old mate in whom he has such confidence and respect.

    This is McCully giving away baubles to get his new prince crowned.

  9. Fairfacts Media 9

    [lprent: I’ve had you on my watchlist since Tane warned you what would happen if you misrepresented this site on your blog again. I think that “The Liarbour lapblog” counts.

    You also have really stupid set of daft catchphrases that mean that I have to waste time rescuing you out of moderation. You just clutter the comments section up with boring waffle. I’ve just been reading it here and on your site while making a decision.

    Decided to ban you permanently, because you don’t appear to have any ability to contribute here meaningfully. ]

  10. Quoth the Raven 10

    But your post does raise the issue of politicians on all sides supplying jobs to their mates and cronies. This is endemic in NZ and if anything appears to have gained pace in recent times.

    Yeah like Labour giving Jim Bolger a job. Shameless cronyism.

  11. Pascal's bookie 11

    HS

    Why exactly would Brash be any good in a diplomatic post? Politicians, if they stick around at the top level long enough certainly pick up the knowledge and skills to do the job.

    Brash didn’t exactly spend much time on the gov’t benches though, did he? His only notable foreign affairs highlight was gone by lunchtime.

    The minister of wine and cheese knows parliamentary systems backwards and has a lot of knowledge about how things happen. Brash? What the hell has he done that would translate?

  12. higherstandard 12

    PB

    Don Brash had was Governor of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand for 14 years and did a significant stint at the World bank also I would suggest he has some significant knowledge and skills to do such a job, regardless it is only vague rumour he’ll be offered it.

    QTR

    I expect someone will post a list to offer examples of Labour cronies at some stage if you don’t think Jim Bolger is an example of politicians looking after their own I would suggest you are delusional.

    You seem to forget that the only time there is universal agreement in the house is whenever the higher salaries commission recommends parliament a pay rise.

  13. higherstandard 13

    Note for Lynn

    … the edit function seems to be misbehaving ?

    When trying to edit it pulses red and refuses to allow and changes.

  14. lprent 14

    hs: I tested it and got the same response on the first go after rediting the second time. Then everything worked perfectly for subsequent messages.

    It looks like it is actually a bug in the client side of the ajax edit function (it took me a while to get it into firebug). It seems to be losing its message ‘id’.

    I’m due to do upgrades next weekend – it is a bit late to do them today.

  15. Quoth the Raven 15

    HS – It was just a joke. I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of former MPs and what postings they have been given. If you do then I suppose you can make the claims you are making. What’s interesting is the guy who is high commissioner to London now is a career dimplomat. In the SST article it says his term might be cut short if Brash was given the job.

  16. randal 16

    fairfacts media…hmmmmmmm…billenglish is starting to look mmore and more like that polyester cyborg they use on fox news…hahahahaha

  17. NX,

    No, we won’t get him for free. Other people will pay him dearly to fuck us over.

  18. Sorry I know this is way way way off topic but:

    Could someone whos ability to post on kiwiblog hasnt been quietly disabled please go and pull up this brain dead tory on this statement:

    “Madeleine (25) +5 Says:

    August 10th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
    If you legislate on the concept that what consenting adults do in their own homes is ok then you are committed to putting in place policies that endorse polygamy, adult to adult incest, necrophilia, etc..

    (Empasis added)

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/08/a_late_link_to_tgif.html#comment-472557

  19. sdm 19

    But of course the appointment of Jonathan Hunt was completely not political.

  20. Have you read the article?

    National and there proxies have been running lines about cronyism all year. This is about hypocrisy not cronyism. Both parties have a history of cronyism, just this time around National is trying to score political points off fighting cronyism, which would be appropriate if they had taken a strong line against it, in their actions as well as words, but this obviously isn’t the case.

  21. lprent 21

    Yes – especially the odious Murray McCully who has been attacking every appointment to everything as being part of some evil plot.

    If the SST article stacks up, then you could probably draw the conclusion that it is what he would have done as well. There are quite a number of organizations that the government has to put people into. It is routine.

    Actually the main problems I’d have with Brash as a ambassador are:-

    * His age – born 1940, which means he is heading to 70 in the next few years. That is the age that health and stress become real issues.

    * His habit of being too honest. Think of the “gone by lunchtime” and other similar Brashism’s. I’m unsure that will be all that helpfull for NZ in a diplomatic post.

  22. randal 22

    randal say don is a dork and that is a necessary and sufficient condition for disqualification . besides shonkey johnkey aint gonna get the chance…hehehehehe. randalknowsthesethings

  23. Rakaia George 23

    KITNO – just curious as to how posting a former Reserve bank governor to one of the world’s two major finance centres is equivalent to posting someone to the food standards body becuase they’re from the Waikato?

    Do you understand the concept of qualifications?

  24. Scribe 24

    sean,

    The cost to taxpayer? Nothing you muppet – as its not a new role. Hand meet forehead.

    Brief, but well said.

  25. “Rakaia George
    August 10, 2008 at 7:54 pm
    KITNO – just curious as to how posting a former Reserve bank governor to one of the world’s two major finance centres is equivalent to posting someone to the food standards body becuase they’re from the Waikato?

    Do you understand the concept of qualifications?

    As I said, the issue her is hypocrisy not cronyism.

  26. Phil 26

    I’m not sure how many of you are aware that Key already donates his salary to charity – what he’s said here is not a new thing, just a continuation of what he’s already doing.

  27. Anita 27

    Phil,

    The article said that. Or rather than he says he donates some of it to charity but he won’t say how much or to whom.

  28. Felix 28

    Don Brash in a diplomatic role?

    I dunno, he’s just never been very…. diplomatic.

  29. Draco TB 29

    I’m not sure how many of you are aware that Key already donates his salary to charity – what he’s said here is not a new thing, just a continuation of what he’s already doing.

    I’m wondering why JK thinks we need to know. It’s really not that important and certainly makes no difference to the policies he and the National Party are putting forward.

    Does he really think people choose their representatives by how much they donate to charity?

  30. Rich 30

    The reason salaries for MPs and politicians were introduced in the first place is so that ordinary people without private means can do the job.

    If it becomes expected that Prime Ministers don’t draw a salary, then the PM will have to be either rich, or live off various dodgy slush funds.

    (Also, I feel I might be Godwined here, but I do remember that Joe Stalin never drew a salary – after his death they found a deskful of unopened paycheques. Of course, Key is nothing like Stalin. If he was, the entire National caucus would be in Siberia by now 🙂 )

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    6 days ago
  • New Zealand joins global facility for pre-purchase of COVID-19 Vaccine
    New Zealand has joined a global initiative that aims to enable all countries to access a safe and effective Covid-19 vaccine, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters announced today. The COVAX Facility was recently launched by Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance. The Alliance includes the World Health Organization, UNICEF, the World Bank ...
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  • Right to legal representation in Family Court restored today
    From today new legislation takes effect to both restore the right to legal representation at the start of a Care of Children (CoCA) dispute in the Family Court, and allow parties to those proceedings to access legal aid where eligible. During a visit to the Family Court in Auckland today, ...
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    6 days ago
  • Transitioning to a fully-qualified home-based ECE workforce
    Home-based early childhood education (ECE) subsidised by the government will transition to a fully qualified workforce by 2025 to ensure better and more consistent quality, Education Minister Chris Hipkins announced today. “Quality early learning helps provide children with a strong foundation for their future,” Chris Hipkins said. From 1 January ...
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  • Criminal Cases Review Commission gets to work
    The new Criminal Cases Review Commission | Te Kāhui Tātari Ture (CCRC) has started work and can now independently investigate claimed miscarriages of justice. “Even though we have appeal rights and safeguards against unsafe convictions, from time to time our justice system does get things wrong. The design of the ...
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  • Speech by the Minister of Defence to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs
    E ngā mana, e ngā reo, e ngā karangatanga maha, tēnā koutou Ki a koutou Te Āti Awa, Taranaki Whānui, Ngāti Toa Rangatira, ngā mana whenua o te rohe nei, tēnā koutou Ko Te Whare Wānanga o Aotearoa ki ngā take o te Ao (NZIIA), Ko te Rōpū Tohu Tono ...
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  • Six months with baby and $20 more a week for new parents
    The Government’s increase to paid parental leave kicks in today with another 4 weeks taking New Zealand up to a full 6 months (26 weeks, up from 22 weeks) leave for new parents, and the maximum weekly payment will increase by $20pw, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. ...
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  • Infrastructure investment to create jobs, kick-start COVID rebuild
    A new package of infrastructure investments will help kick-start the post-COVID rebuild by creating more than 20,000 jobs and unlocking more than $5 billion of projects up and down New Zealand. Finance Minister Grant Robertson and Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones today outlined how the $3 billion infrastructure fund in the ...
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    6 days ago
  • Statement on passage of national security law for Hong Kong
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today expressed the New Zealand Government’s deep disappointment at the passage by China’s National People’s Congress Standing Committee of a national security law for Hong Kong. “New Zealand has consistently emphasised its serious concern about the imposition of this legislation on Hong Kong without inclusive ...
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  • July 1 marks progress for workers, families
    More jobs and more family time with newborns are the centrepiece of a suite of Government initiatives coming into effect today. July 1 is a milestone day for the Government as a host of key policies take effect, demonstrating the critical areas where progress has been made. “The Coalition Government ...
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  • Auckland water consent referred to Board of Inquiry
    Environment Minister David Parker has today “called in” Auckland’s application to the Waikato Regional Council to take an extra 200 million litres of water a day from the lower reaches of the Waikato River for Auckland drinking water and other municipal uses.  The call-in means the application has been referred ...
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    7 days ago
  • New Zealand to host virtual APEC in 2021
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker announced today that New Zealand’s hosting of APEC in 2021 will go ahead using virtual digital platforms. Mr Peters said the global disruption caused by COVID-19, including resultant border restrictions, had been the major factor in the ...
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  • Matakana Link Road construction kicks off and drives jobs
    The start of construction on a new link road between Matakana Road and State Highway 1 will create jobs and support the significant population growth expected in the Warkworth area, Transport Minister Phil Twyford and Mayor Phil Goff announced today. Transport Minister Phil Twyford said construction of the Matakana Link ...
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    7 days ago
  • PPE supplies secured as COVID-19 response focuses on border
    The Government is prioritising its latest investment in PPE for frontline health workers, including staff at managed isolation and quarantine facilities, Health Minister David Clark says. “With no community transmission of COVID-19 our response now has a firm focus on keeping our border safe and secure. “We must ensure that ...
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    1 week ago
  • PGF funding for Parihaka settlement
    The Parihaka Papakāinga Trust in Taranaki will receive up to $14 million for a new visitor centre and other improvements at the historic settlement that will boost the local economy and provide much-needed jobs, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones and Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Andrew Little have ...
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    1 week ago
  • Protections for workers in triangular employment
    Protections for workers who are employees of one employer but working under the direction of another business or organisation have come into force, closing a gap in legislation that  made the personal grievance process inaccessible for some workers, says Workplace Relations Minister Iain Lees-Galloway. “This Government is working hard to ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government strengthens managed isolation system
    A range of improvements are already underway to address issues identified in the rapid review of the Managed Isolation and Quarantine system released today, Housing Minister Megan Woods said. The review was commissioned just over a week ago to identify and understand current and emerging risks to ensure the end-to-end ...
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  • Whakatāne to go predator free with Government backing Ngāti Awa led efforts
    The important brown kiwi habitat around Whakatāne will receive added protection through an Iwi-led predator free project announced by Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage and Under Secretary for Regional Economic Development Fletcher Tabuteau. “The Government is investing nearly $5 million into Te Rūnanga o Ngāti Awa’s environmental projects with $2.5 ...
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    1 week ago
  • Growing Goodwood: Expanding wood waste recycling plant in Bay of Plenty, Waikato
    An extra 4,000 tonnes of offcuts and scraps of untreated wood per year will soon be able to be recycled into useful products such as horticultural and garden mulch, playground safety surfacing and animal bedding as a result of a $660,000 investment from the Waste Minimisation Fund, Associate Environment Minister ...
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  • Scott Watson’s convictions to be referred to Court of Appeal
    The Governor-General has referred Scott Watson’s convictions for murder back to the Court of Appeal, Justice Minister Andrew Little announced today. Mr Watson was convicted in 1999 of the murders of Ben Smart and Olivia Hope. His appeal to the Court of Appeal in 2000 was unsuccessful, as was his ...
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