Hip throw to the lions

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1. Dont worry. Be happy 1

   24 April 2015 at 9:15 am

   Amanda Bailey joins a small but growing troop of young New Zealand women who shine.

   They make us proud.
   • Chooky 1.1

     24 April 2015 at 9:32 am

     +100…she has refused to be cowed….she has refused to be silenced

     ….she has stood up for her dignity and the dignity of all women and people

     …she has fought to safeguard her right to her physical space and body…to keep them from unwanted intrusion and violation
   • rawshark-yeshe 1.2

     24 April 2015 at 9:37 am

     Brilliant and brave Billingsley and Bailey … experts on how to survive against the worst John Key can throw at you. Kia kaha … and thank you.
2. ianmac 2

   24 April 2015 at 9:30 am

   Interesting. One of the political strategies in recent years is to swamp an issue with a vast mountain of information and mis-information so that the people get confused. When Mike isolates and identifies the main elements of an issue like this, he is doing us all a favour.
   And since the Brown Grant couple are not fronting for this it leaves me with a contempt for their apparent role in self-protection.
   • Ex-Hipgroup-manager 2.1

     28 April 2015 at 9:17 pm

     As far as I am concerned I am disgusted with the article. Scott Brown Cheated and left Jackie Grant with a cafe manager not so long ago and to , 1st of all appear to be happy families with the staff member when they aren’t even talking is bad enough but to proceed to throw the poor girl to the trap of a journalist is possibly the worst thing an employer could do. As an employer you should nurture and care and protect your staff, but alas no, Brown being the man ( i use that term lightly as he is anything but) he is puts the $ before the person. They Preach that they are no1 in looking after staff but I believe this whole affair shows the company in the true light it really is in.
     I left because I couldn’t stand what this man did to his life partner, and this completely vindicates my feelings about it all, he is a Bully just like Key and nothing more.
3. shorts 3

   24 April 2015 at 9:33 am

   you’ve missed the part that Glucina’s brother works for the hip group – so they knew exactly who she was and where her outpourings of vile goes – me thinks this poor woman was setup

   https://twitter.com/publicaddress/status/591000609387515904

   These employers deserve our collective condemnation!
   • linda 3.1

     25 April 2015 at 10:19 am

     any crowde funding yet so we can support this girl to go after her employers and the herald
4. Maui 4

   24 April 2015 at 10:09 am

   I think it’s pretty clear the employers care more about their social circles and personal image than the welfare of their employees.
   • Murray Rawshark 4.1

     24 April 2015 at 5:06 pm

     Funny. I get the same impression.
5. Whateva next? 5

   24 April 2015 at 10:22 am

   Clarity emerging, yes, characters of these owners consistent with other National Party reptiles. Need to put a sign up outside to warn people
6. BLiP 6

   24 April 2015 at 10:46 am

   Hip owners Jackie Grant and Scott Brown told Glucina that Bailey had “strong political views.”

   We don’t really know this. What we know is that’s Glucina wrote.

   Don’t get me wrong, there’s little doubt that Jackie Grant and Scott Brown held up their worker as a sacrifice to the inner sanctum of the John Key Dirty Politics Machine. Had they consider the worker’s situation it would have been abundantly apparent that what she required was not to be lured into a covert MSM sting.
   • Chooky 6.1

     24 April 2015 at 10:31 pm

     +100
7. dukeofurl 7

   24 April 2015 at 11:02 am

   Heres a list of their cafes and such

   Kohi Corner;
   The Café, The Store, The Bar

   Waihi Beach Hotel Eatery and Store

   Takapuna Beach Café & Store

   Rosie Café

   Matua Road Farm

   Ortolana

   Richmond Road Café

   The Store at Britomart

   Milse

   St Heliers Bistro & Café

   The Diner at Britomart

   Provenance Eatery & Store

   http://www.hipgroup.co.nz/
   • freedom 7.1

     24 April 2015 at 11:40 am

     Hi dukeofurl, you have a question to respond to if you don’t mind
     http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23042015-2/#comment-1004556
   • whateva next? 7.2

     24 April 2015 at 12:43 pm

     quite a little empire they are building there
   • Tamati 7.3

     24 April 2015 at 3:35 pm

     Say what you like about the owners, they’re damn good at running excellent cafes.
     • Murray Rawshark 7.3.1

       24 April 2015 at 5:07 pm

       Not really. An excellent cafe is one where the staff are safe from harrassment.
       • Chooky 7.3.1.1

         24 April 2015 at 10:29 pm

         +100…anything else should be boycotted
     • Ex-Hipgroup-manager 7.3.2

       29 April 2015 at 8:36 pm

       if you could see it from the other side of the fence….
       • Hateatea 7.3.2.1

         29 April 2015 at 10:00 pm

         If we could see what exactly?
8. Ron 8

   24 April 2015 at 11:46 am

   That makes it easy to ensure I never patronise any of them
9. Stickler 9

   24 April 2015 at 12:36 pm

   When you consider what must have been at the top of their priority list for the day, it would have read: “Preserve the custom of the Prime Minister as one of our clients.”

   All their subsequent decisions proceeded from that first goal.
10. venezia 10

    24 April 2015 at 1:19 pm

    Well……. I usually visit at least two of those eateries when I’m in AKL. But no more. They are on my blacklist if that’s how they treat their staff!
11. whateva next? 11

    24 April 2015 at 2:12 pm

    The Guardian have now picked up the appalling NZH behaviour towards this young woman, hanging her out to dry.
12. esoteric pineapples 12

    24 April 2015 at 5:01 pm

    In my experience in dealing with café owners on a professional level, they tend to be of two types. The “straight” ones who are the majority are petite bourgeoisie who usually work hard themselves but also expect a lot of their staff. They are working side by side with their staff so there is a certain informality but at the end of the day are completely dominant in the relationship when any wages and conditions are discussed and they usually have their way. I think this waitress may have been a little deceived by the informality of her relationship with her bosses and being a young person. I am always wary of this type and although our exchanges may be apparently friendly, I’m always on my guard.

    The others are the genuinely cool and usually slightly alternative ones who seems to have a genuinely good relationship with their staff.
13. Tracey 13

    24 April 2015 at 5:06 pm

    lets not forget they employ glucinas brother henry whose cv says nothing about building moral and respect for employees.

    key is still calling this hijinks and horseplay. why hasnt he been asked about tge fondling not tugging of female childrens hair?

    i note key promises to change his behaviour in public… star struck parents beware…. just cos you like key doesnt mean him stroking your daughters hair is alright.
14. Sable 14

    24 April 2015 at 6:59 pm

    Good to hear this girl can move on and find decent employment. As to those who have tried to vilify her, they are of no consequence. Sounds like most of NZ knows this too….
15. Colonial Rawshark 15

    24 April 2015 at 7:16 pm

    Gawd some of these business owners are really ham fistedly stupid with poor judgement.
16. Hateatea 16

    24 April 2015 at 7:56 pm

    With so many businesses to run, they were more than likely seldom at the cafe at the same time as Amanda. It would be the duty manager at the time who would see the incidents and may or may not have told other supervisors or either of the owners. That is the extent of the latitude I am prepared to allow them however. They must have known that Rachel Glucina is an employee of or contractor to the New Zealand Herald and should never allowed Amanda to be ‘interviewed’ without her being able to have a support person or legal advisor present. They have failed in their duty of care.

    I have absolutely no sympathy for them at all. They are not the ‘victims’.
    • Treetop 16.1

      24 April 2015 at 8:26 pm

      Did the cafe manager really not say anything to the owners?

      I find there to be no difference between an official complaint and a verbal complaint to the manager, a complaint to management is a complaint.
      • Hateatea 16.1.1

        24 April 2015 at 9:05 pm

        I agree with you. All I was trying to say, albeit perhaps not clearly enough, that an organisation with as many sites to manage as Hip Group has, probably doesn’t interact a lot with individual wait staff. Also, there may be several people who act as supervisors / managers over any given day / week and it is possible that the incidents were not passed up the line. I am giving the owners as much wiggle room as I am prepared to grant them as to why they say that they were unaware of Amanda’s concerns prior to the blog post.

        What they did afterwards, to me anyway, is unethical and unsupportive of their employee(s) and very self serving.

        They most certainly are not ‘victims’.
        • Treetop 16.1.1.1

          24 April 2015 at 9:33 pm

          Hip group’s management (inparticular their complaints process) is now under the spotlight.
          • Maui 16.1.1.1.1

            24 April 2015 at 10:40 pm

            I can just see that complaint process going down. An almighty quagmire.

            Duty Manager: “Look, we have a problem customer who keeps abusing/harrassing a staff member.”

            Owners: “OK, ban him from the store.”

            Duty Manager: “It’s the Prime Minister…”
        • logie97 16.1.1.2

          25 April 2015 at 10:49 am

          They appear to have known this employee well enough to be aware of her political views – according to reports anyway
17. Vaughan Little 17

    24 April 2015 at 8:14 pm

    seeing people in media, social media and the public respond to this affair makes me really proud to be a new zealander. this is open society at its best.

    it does surprise me, however, that the harassment went on for so long. sexual harassment is so common that I would have thought any company would have policy around it: harassed staff being required to report any incidents involving touching, and management being required to act on it. if there are any business owners out there I’d be interested to hear how they approach this stuff…
18. logie97 18

    25 April 2015 at 10:47 am

    Product placement gets everywhere these days.
    The first bit of product placement wasn’t very subtle – Key’s wine labels in the recent cafe shambles was one.
    But did anyone notice the cap the cafe proprietor was wearing? Carefully positioned to hide his eyes in one picture. Wonder if they might get reimbursed for that?

    On the other hand it might just simply have been a gift from Key on returning from one of his rounds with his mate in Hawaii and it was being worn just to show that, “We are with you John on this one.”
    • Ex-Hipgroup-manager 18.1

      28 April 2015 at 9:25 pm

      If you knew anything about Scott Brown you will know that he has no ability to have eye contact with people if he is having a serious conversation, he either looks at the floor or his phone..
19. Ex-Hipgroup-manager 19

    29 April 2015 at 7:04 pm

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11440614 case in point, look how smug the two owners look in the last photo. poor girl . hope she gets what she deserves out of it all. good luck to Amanda

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