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How To Get There 08/03/20

Written By: - Date published: 7:00 am, March 8th, 2020 - 7 comments
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  1. Robert Guyton 2

    Plant exotic weeds" – fire's foresters' biggest challenge!

    “A designed fire retardant landscape worked as planned. Silvicultural decisions made 30 years ago and exotic tree genetics we saved from the nativist pogroms saved our valley. I am amazed, too.

    “Our native forest on Ironstone Hill … was saved from the fire by the bands of deciduous trees. It is now full of wildlife seeking refuge.”

    Peter is a firm believer that the “native good, exotic bad” message has got out of hand among land-carers.

    He’s deeply critical of what he describes as a belief that willows, poplars and oaks are invasive weeds, arguing that “random mixes of ‘natives’, many from a thousand kilometres away, have no silvicultural logic”, and describing wide belts of native planting running east-west as “frightening fire wicks, threatening to outflank firefighters at any time”."


    • Pingao 2.1

      Except it is in Australia – a lot of their native trees are essentially petrol (i mean turpens) flame throwers.

      Many of our natives are reasonably fire resistant. Some exotics are also quite fire resistant of course – such as exotic broom.

      I will dash away now having added to your inflammatory post 😃.

    • greywarshark 2.2

      Willows are wonderful according to the Mulloon Natural Sequence farmers. This from August 2018, updated in December 2018.


      <i>When Tony Coote – [The Mulloon Institute was Tony and his wife Toni’s creation] was buried in August on his beloved property, Mulloon Creek Natural Farms, his mischievous sense of humour was evident: he was lowered into his grave in a handmade wicker basket made of willow.

      It was, some say, a parting gesture to those who had complained about him planting willow trees to repair degraded landscapes.

      Like the rest of New South Wales, Mulloon Creek is in drought. The egg and beef operation, 45 minutes outside Canberra, is experiencing its driest seven months on record, with less than 150mm of rainfall.

      But, unlike other farms in the region, there's water flowing through the creek — crystal clear water, good enough to drink.

      This is no miracle — it's the result of Mr Coote's dedication over a decade to the ethos of Peter Andrews, lauded for his ability to rehabilitate dry, degraded and salt-ravaged landscapes.</i>


      • Robert Guyton 2.2.1

        Haikai Tane also lauds willow for water management; not riverside willows, as employed by regional councils across the country, but placed-differently willows that foster a more natural movement of water through soil. I'm in search for cuttings from a particular willow that might help the political situation here in New Zealand. If I can propagate enough of them and plant them on the lawns surrounding the Beehive, I reckon whomping willows could sort out a lot of the nonsense that goes on in there.

        • greywarshark

          You're a hero Robert! Go for it. I hope the will-ow will sort those naughty boys and girls at the Beehive out and back to work for the good of the country. Now is the time.

          Is it a real willow that you are thinking of? Called a purple something?

  2. greywarshark 3

    Listening to my CD of Johnny Mathis I thought two songs expressed my ethos about working for the betterment of NZ and that of many others left behind in the rush to the technological age, living high and monetary excess.

    This says what I wish young couples, male and female or groups, could think and be acting on. Maybe we can make a new beginning, sail away from the old, tired, degraded ways and remodel our lives anew, fresh and wisely. And not be pedantic, moralistic but have a positive stable ethos of appreciation of our world with commitment to co-operating for the common good, that we can all follow, and allow for the different, new ideas dissenting.

    "We've Only Just Begun"
    We've only just begun to live
    White lace and promises
    A kiss for luck and we're on our way
    We've only begun

    Before the rising sun we fly
    So many roads to choose
    We start out walking and learn to run
    And yes, we've just begun

    Sharing horizons that are new to us
    Watching the signs along the way
    Talking it over just the two of us
    Working together day to day

    And when the evening comes we smile
    So much of life ahead
    We'll find a place where there's room to grow
    And yes, We've just begun

    https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/carpenters/wereonlyjustbegun.html (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX_BSrNxcJ8

    and we need to keep those good memories, retain them and repair those that went wrong.

    "The Way We Were"
    Light the corners of my mind
    Misty water-colored memories
    Of the way we were
    Scattered pictures,
    Of the smiles we left behind
    Smiles we gave to one another
    For the way we were
    Can it be that it was all so simple then?
    Or has time re-written every line?
    If we had the chance to do it all again
    Tell me, would we? Could we?
    Mem'ries, may be beautiful and yet
    What's too painful to remember
    We simply choose to forget
    So it's the laughter
    We will remember
    Whenever we remember…
    The way we were…
    The way we were…


    Remember Ray Conniff singers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyxGnzhMWiI

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