I do a lot of work for charity, but I don’t like to talk about it

Written By: - Date published: 9:19 am, August 12th, 2008 - 57 comments
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Many New Zealand politicians give away a large portion of their salaries to needy causes but they don’t make a song and dance about it because a) lots of MPs do it b) boasting about charity donations is a rich man’s game, and the reason we have decent salaries for MPs is to prevent politics being the preserve of the wealthy c) it’s just crass to give to a needy cause and then ask to be deified for it. None of that has stopped John Key humbly informing New Zealanders of his big wallet twice in recent weeks saying he gives away most of his current MP’s salary and would do the same as PM (a drop in the bucket to a man worth $50 mil plus, of course). It reminds me of this:

It also annoys me on a more fundamental level. If you acknowledge there is poverty and need in society and that redistribution of wealth from the wealthy to the poor needs to take place to ease that problem there are two basic options. Charity, which is great for its flexibility and the direct sense of giving the donor receives but is often reliant on the personal whims of wealthy individuals like Key, meaning only the ‘deserving poor’ get help, and social welfare programmes which are comprehensive and impartial, if also behemoths. In unison, the two do much good and both could use more money. So, it’s disappointing, indeed flabbergasting, to see Key extolling his personal charity one day and attacking social welfare, which helps far more people, the next. Does he really care about helping those in poverty or is he more interested in his public image?

[In response to Key’s boosting, Ruth Dyson is asked about her charitable giving here, 3/4 of the way through]

57 comments on “I do a lot of work for charity, but I don’t like to talk about it”

  1. I don’t know that anyone would want to be “defied” for giving to charity, but they might want to be deified for it, especially if they are John Key.

    But, yes, this is rather like John McCain carrying on *endlessly* about his POW experience and getting away with it. Sickening.

  2. “POW experience”

    Try being a solo father living under a feminized controlled regime.
    Who will try to have me arrested again , the Children Commissioner or Miss Clark? TAB paying even money on both women.

    I do charity work for people shafted by a sinister and sick justice system .All the lawyers and judges ask me why I do it for no money. Not one of them can look me in the eye when I state I care about people? They think I am a alien when I ask them if they have a judicial system on Mars?

    Nice bit of yank bashing jaffa, what do you think of the Russian invasion of Georgia? Our carbon tax will run their tanks !!

  3. Andrew 3

    Smashy and Nicey! I suddenly have so much more time for the Standard.

    Bachman-Turner Overdrive – Let’s rock!

  4. Stephen 4

    and then ask to be defied for it.

    That should be ‘deified’

  5. yeah, the old hilarious typo.

  6. Stephen 6

    D4J, i’ll arrest ya if you want!

  7. Stephen 7

    Anyway, not really the worst move from Key – keeping a couple hundred grand on top of all the perks would be grounds for resentment or attack from some quarters.

  8. “D4J, i’ll arrest ya if you want!”

    No thanks Stephen as the grandmothers, mothers, children and fathers I am assisting need my assistance in a callous system stacked with heartless greedy lawyers, bent judges and nutbar psychologists.
    I am helping a lady that was thrown out of women’s refuge with a 4 month baby. Good one New Zealand.

    Charity on the front line is a world I don’t expect many on blogosphere to understand. In fact, not one of you would know what’s it like cleaning up mess after mess caused through systematic failures and cumulative errors.

    Arrest – no thanks ,besides at this time of year it’s hard to recover from the police beatings down in the freezing central cell dungeons.

  9. Benodic 9

    Dad, you’re boring.

  10. Be charitable… Ben Doc

  11. Perhaps you would like to read up on the Russian invasion of Georgia d4j. You are woefully underinformed as usual.

    This is genocide
    Did the U.S. Prep Georgia for War with Russia?
    US mercenary caught?

    You shouldn’t believe everything you read in our Corporately owned News Papers.

    Completely off topic but my post on John Key and his relationship with Andrew Krieger just got scoopited to the front page of Scoop. Awesome.

    Captcha: Paris Naomi. Sigh, even Captcha goes for Bimbos

  12. In fact everything I said was off topic. My apologies.

    On topic I have this to say about JK’s “generosity”. Someone who is so obscenely rich with money made while speculating and gambling on Countries currencies and hence entire populations better be giving something back. What he is doing is not generosity he is buying off his conscience.

    In a just society there would be no need for charity.

  13. couldn’t agree more travellerev.

    D4J – ‘be charitable’, gold.

  14. Scribe 14

    jafapete,

    But, yes, this is rather like John McCain carrying on *endlessly* about his POW experience and getting away with it. Sickening.

    From what I’ve seen and heard, McCain has actually been fairly reluctant to talk about it. The Republicans, in fact, have been urging him to talk MORE about it.

    Care to support your accusation with evidence?

  15. ak 15

    Goodonya dad: if Slippery Dick had shown the teensiest evidence of doing what you are rather than feathering his own fat nest overseas I’d be more inclined to give him the time of day. It’s a bit late to brazenly skite about flicking the poor a few crumbs off his fat belly when five minutes ago he was accusing screeds of our most vulnerable fellow citizens of “breeding for business”.
    Think about that phrase: and about the icy callous heart that could even hatch the thought. Nice man my arse – master of disguise with a case-hardened fist of steel under the velvet glove. I’d honestly rather vote4dad.

  16. ak. you can if you live in Christchurch (Central, I think). Peter’s the Republicans’ candidate.

  17. ak 18

    (ta Steve – ordering my D4J4PM plates as we speak….. 🙂

  18. gobsmacked 19

    You give to others, for the benefit of the people receiving.

    You talk about giving to others, for the benefit of the people listening.

    (Recommended reading for John Key: Mark, Chapter 12, verses 38-44).

  19. Phil 21

    As far as I’m aware, JK has been giving his salary to various charities the whiole time he’s been an MP. Remember also that ‘attacking social welfare’ are your words and not his.

    That this has taken as long to become public knowledge is a good sign that he’s not boasting at all. Green eyes aren’t a good look for you.

  20. Scribe 22

    Pb,

    I’m highly sceptical of that website you’ve linked to given it’s huge pro-Obama stance.

    It links to Karl Rove as one of the Republicans who is concerned about McCain’s reluctance to talk about his war record. I think that’s an indication he’s certainly not exploiting it.

  21. gobsmacked 23

    Phil

    This is an old story, which Key has pushed (sory, let slip) in the media several times.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10413135

    After a bad week for National, he got the front page of a Sunday paper. Convenient.

    (bit he doesn’t like to talk about it …)

  22. Pascal's bookie 24

    Dude, If you find ad hom arguments powerful then fine, but read his links. For eg, Links to McCain ads with interrogation footage.

    Then perhaps get address his evidence. Or are saying he faked those McCain quotes and campaign ads?

    And ummm, ‘Karl Fncking Rove’ is an unbiased analyst? Please.

    You don’t think that maybe, um, Rovey baby is just spreading the “McCain is a humble vet, who doesn’t like to talk about his service” meme?

  23. rave 25

    For the rich charity is natural welfare, from those who have to those who don’t. Interesting that many of the top people on the Rich List have “philanthopist” as one of their activities. Like next to ‘investor’ or ‘developer’ is ‘philanthopist’. I didnt notice that Key was listed as “speculator-philanthropist”.
    Acceptance of Key as a self-made man when he did it by ripping off the rest of us is what is staggering. Not really, as 20 years of neo-liberal dog eat dogism has created selfish me generation who dont want to be taxed for social spending but who want all of their personal income to be disposable, some of it for charity no doubt. I made it, its mine, I’ll give it away if I want to. HooHoo!
    Such as Key’s act of ‘charity’ in spiriting off Moana Ireland from McGegan Place up to Waitangi last year.
    What is really good is that most of the people of McGegan place did not take too kindly to Key’s patronage, nor are they waiting for some charitable handouts from rich bastards, and today are organising themselves into food coops and neighourhood watch. Go McGegan Place, fuck the charitymongers and their chequebook hope.

  24. “As far as I’m aware, JK has been giving his salary to various charities the whiole time he’s been an MP. Remember also that ‘attacking social welfare’ are your words and not his.”

    I guess giving a few hundred thousand himself makes it ok to slash millions as a prime minister, hows that for moral equivilence…

  25. gobsmacked 27

    And again a comment gets stuck in moderation, just because I provided a link to back up my point. Thanks.

    The Standard’s control-freak moderation pisses off friend and foe alike, and until you guys work that out, loosen up and stop being your own worst enemies, I’m done with commenting here. Life’s too short. See ya.

  26. IrishBill 28

    GS, I just had a look and it wasn’t our moderation system that held your comment but our Akismet spam system. I don’t think we can adjust that as it’s a wordpress plug-in. I’ll have a talk to Lynn about tweaking the moderation but one of the problems we have is that, unlike Kiwiblog, we don’t require registration but the downside is we are a lot easier for spambots (and trolls) to target. Perhaps you could try signing up as a registered user and see if that makes a difference.

    [lprent:
    Akismet has been getting a real pain on links in comments recently for some reason. There is an update for Akismet – I’ll turn that on tonight and see if it improves at all.
    Otherwise the only alternatives I can see are to
    1. Manually remove the spam – but quite a lot is getting through recaptcha now.
    2. Require registered users. The recaptcha on the registered users is working ok (at present). ]

  27. In fact since I’ve been using “clean” links I’ve been able to put in as many links as I liked without getting caught in the spam filter.

  28. Rex Widerstrom 30

    Whatever his other faults (real and imagined, as we all have) I take my imaginary (non tinfoil) hat off to D4J for the work he does helping others caught in the sewer that is our “justice” system.

    It’s a bit rich to bag a wealthy man for chucking some money to the poor and bragging about it, and then attacking a poor man who rolls up his sleeves and genuinely tries to help others. And doesn’t, unless he’s attacked, brag about it.

    Until I see a politician of any stripe acknowledge that our “justice”, police and prisons system is a joke (for a multitude of reasons I won’t go into here since it’s too far off topic) I’d be inclined to vote for Dad if I could, just to give the bastards a desperately-needed shakeup.

    “Do you give to charity” (or “you’re rich, surely you don’t need your MPs salary?”) is one of those “have you stopped beating your wife” questions. Give a modest “no comment” and it’s assumed you’re a tightwad. Reveal that you give some of it away and you’re a braggart. Reveal that you give most of it away and you invite the response “he can afford to give his salary away! What a rich prick!”. Though I agree that – as with so many other issues, Key could have handled the matter with a lot more finesse.

  29. Draco TB 31

    Rex, he could have given the modest Yes i do give to charity and left it at that rather than the immodest Yes, I give most of my MPs salary to charity.

  30. Rex Widerstrom 32

    Draco TB: I agree, that’s what I meant about lack of finesse. I don’t think it was boasting so much as a mix of poor spin and a genuine human desire to not be seen as a “rich prick”. We sometimes forget we’re dealing with human beings (yes, even John Key and Michael Cullen!) and some things can get under people’s skins.

    The fact that you’ve come up with a far better form of words and that I’ve spotted the potential trap in the question does prove one thing beyond a doubt, however – Draco / Rex know far more about strategy than Crosby / Textor 😀

  31. Quoth the Raven 33

    You’ve got to wonder hou much he gave to charity before he entered politics. That would be a real measure. I wonder if John Key will enlighten us on that one? I think we should think back to that magizine article where John Key was asked what he’d do if given a billion dollars. First thing he said was buy a private jet, then give some to charity.

  32. fiona 34

    I am stunned that someone who can make an empty gesture like this (presumably the prize for him is having PM on his CV not the dosh, lucky old him) thinks he has the right to be PM. This just shows how out of touch he is. People really are struggling to buy that block of cheese.

    Oh but that’s right, he grew up in a state house, so we can trust him to look after us – although maybe not trust him to support our solo mums the way his own mother was supported.

  33. Ari 35

    Pb,

    I’m highly sceptical of that website you’ve linked to given it’s huge pro-Obama stance.

    It links to Karl Rove as one of the Republicans who is concerned about McCain’s reluctance to talk about his war record. I think that’s an indication he’s certainly not exploiting it.

    If you have the time, go watch videos of McCain in debates. He usually drops some sort of reference to being tortured at least once. There’s been a lot of “I haven’t had this much fun since Hanoi” comments and so on. McCain doesn’t do anything obviously- he’s getting pretty handy with the dogwhistle, sadly.

    As for Mr. Key: If he really cared about charity, he could donate a lot more than just his salary. He has how many million stashed away? That could do a lot of good. If he wants to be recognised as a philanthropist, he better be ready to spend big on social justice, and preferably spend some of his time, too.

  34. insider 36

    Odd that the people who are most concerned about Mr Key’s wealth, talk about it most and speculate how he earnt it and what he does with it are….here.

    Yet when he is asked and answers what he does with his money he is pilloried by self same people. Bizarre.

    Rave

    key’s never ripped me off, not sure about your dealings with him. Perhaps you can expand. But I do know that I am contributing about $1000 in tax this year to buy a railway I don’t want, that extremely few people use, and which will continue to cost me unknown amounts of money in years to come all to fulfil some unknown dream of HC’s in some unknown way. If anyone has ripped me off it is her.

  35. For all his charity and giving away his MP salary wasn’t John Key rich enough to have made it on the Nations rich list having earned enough to make it?

    I wonder… does he have shares in Halliburton, Exxon, Boeing or other military industrial complex industries?

    I guess that is another question form my questions I’d like to ask John Key’s list.

    I tell you what though if I ever needed help I wouldn’t touch John Key’s blood money with a barge pole.

    If Key really wanted to make a difference he would have stayed out of politics and he would have quietly gone about improving peoples lives.

  36. Phil 38

    I happen to be a big fan of Halliburton, Exxon, and Boeing. They’re a good (pun intended) defensive stock holding

    http://www.vicefund.com/fundperf.htm

  37. Phil,

    Why am I not surprised?

    It’s just them Arabs ain’t it. Them extremist Muslims. Who gives a f*&k if they all get killed.

    The anti Semitic holocaust part deux.

  38. Draco TB 40

    But I do know that I am contributing about $1000 in tax this year to buy a railway I don’t want, that quite a few people use (especially tourists who go to look at the scenery), and which will continue to make me unknown amounts of money in years to come all to fulfill the required necessity of reducing carbon emissions.

    Fixed it for ya Insider.

  39. Anita 41

    insider,

    I am contributing about $1000 in tax this year to buy a railway I don’t want

    How much tax does one have to pay for $1000 of it to go to buying KiwiRail?

  40. Anita. fuckloads… the $1.5 billion cost for Kiwirail is over 5 years if i remember correctly. that’s $300 million a year. The Government spends $60 billion a year. So, it’s fair to say that 0.5% of the tax you pay in the next yearswill be going on Kiwirail.

    So, to be paying $1000 this year in tax or Kiwirail, you would have to be paying $200K in tax all up. How much is your income if you’re paying 200K in tax? Using the current tax rates (ignoring the fact that half of this year will be on lower rates) – your income would have to be over $535,000 [200K = (0.195*38K)+(0.33*22K)+(0.39*475K) ] I doubt insider earns $535K a year.

    … and for everyone who moans about paying 39% tax, note that even at $535K a year, you’re only paying 37% tax… from October 1, no-one earning 100K or less will be paying more than 29% tax. More than half of taxpayers will be paying less than 17% tax.

  41. I came up with 650,000, but flag trying to explain how, I assume Steve is probably more onto it than me!

  42. Anita 44

    *grin*

    I started to go a bit mental when I tried to separate out tax income from other sources of income and everything went a bit wobbly – so I gave up. I totally agree it must be fuckloads 🙂

  43. rave 45

    Insider, I figure that Key’s role in betting on the Kiwi$ causing it to fall by 5-10% made my cost of living go up.
    [see Travellerev http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/john-key-and-the-things-he-does-not-want-you-to-know-part-1-the-attack-on-the-nz-dollar-in-1987/ That’s ripping off the whole country.
    Some of his financier mates got NZ rail for next to nothing, stripped it, sucked out a few billions, so that to keep it alive it had been bought back.
    I hope you are paying $1000 a year for kiwirail, that makes me think even more fondly of it.

  44. Razorlight 46

    “and for everyone who moans about paying 39% tax, note that even at $535K a year, you’re only paying 37% tax from October 1, no-one earning 100K or less will be paying more than 29% tax. More than half of taxpayers will be paying less than 17% tax.”

    And about bloody time

  45. J Mex 47

    Key is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Key is often painted by opponents as money hungry and a rich prick. When he says that he gives his money away he is still smeared for being rich.

    “[In response to Key’s boosting, Ruth Dyson is asked about her charitable giving here…]”

    How the hell this is held up as being a good response is beyond me. She is asked (effectively) which charities do you support?

    Her response is (summarised):

    – Every day I would get a letter asking for support, I decide which ones of these I support.
    – I often give money to people to people who are going on trips/travel etc.

    ?

    One says he’s going to give most of his salary away and the other says she often gives money to people going on trips. Are you completely insane?

    Anyway. Full props for Smashie and Nicey. Mr Cholmondley-Warner is the best though….

  46. J Mex 48

    I heard that in addition to secret audio tapings of the National party cocktail party, someone managed to get secret video recordings as well…

  47. lprent 49

    JM: Yep, that is often the response for people who vacillate too often.

    They’re always damned if they don’t because, buggirit we’d like then to make some bloody decisions. If they do, then buggerit we were anticipating that they’d just do the cheezy grin thing again.

    You never quite know where they stand on anything, it is like they’re wearing Jandals or whatever the name of that footwear is..

  48. Kevyn 50

    J Mex, They’ve responded with a secret cocktail party training video, it ends with that nice Mr Key showing how it’s done properly.

  49. Insider,

    I couldn’t book a seat on the Overlander last month if my life depended on it. It was fully booked for weeks ahead.

    In Holland I could walk up to a station any time, get a ticket and get on the train. What’s more I could get a seat any time except perhaps in the busiest of times.

    I never had a car in Holland, I never even had a driving licence. We had one car and my husband used it for his business.

    I was 51 when I learned to drive. I love it by the way. Isn’t that ironical, frigging peak oil and madam learns to drive. LOL.

    Captcha: interurban 72. A prediction perhaps

  50. Kevyn 52

    Steve, Two problems with your sums.
    Insider’s $1,000 is for the purchase not for the future $1.5bn. That doubles the percent of govt. spending and reduces the tax to $100k and the taxable income to $280k, but only if insider doesn’t pay any GST. If someone earning 280k spent half that on things on which GST is payable they would pay $17k in GST on top of their income tax. A quick fiddle with the numbers in a spreadsheet, ignoring the actual portion of income spent on GSTable items and simply using $17k GST brings the taxable earnings down to $225k.

    It is possible the insider might earn that much, especially if his “my” refers to his household rather than individual income.

    When Mallard was interviewed on Agenda about Kiwirail he said the money for upgrades would come from the land transport fund, although the ten-year NLTP forecast doesn’t seem to include any rail funding that wasn’t in last year’s ten-year forecast. $1.5bn over 5 years does sound very much like the funding committed in the schedules to LTMA Amendment Act, for suburban rail upgrades. The only confirmed funding for Kiwirail I’ve seen is the $80m announced recently. Either you’re better informed than me, or worse. Hopefully not the latter. I can easily see the need for $1.5bn for freight wagons, locos, tunnel hieght improvements, passing bays (or loops) and so forth needed to actually carry more tonne/km efficiently. Then there’s the Seddon era bridges approaching the end of their natural lives plus the significant length of both rail and highway bridges built in the 20s and 30s that are both going to come up for renewal over the next decade or two. That lot includes the 1.6km Rakaia road and rail bridges that replaced the combined road/rail bridge. Actually it is the lineal metres that need replacing rather than the number of bridges that is disquieting.

  51. Kevyn 53

    Not that there’s anything wrong with earning $225k. Well, there can’t be since that’s my earnings too…for the whole time Helen’s been PM.

    Enough to afford to own a nearly-classic sportscar and a quaint Great Depression bungalow (no hallway, all the rooms open off the kitchen – fewer walls must have been cheaper to build. Definitely cheap to heat! Necessity being the mother of invention)

  52. rave 54

    Kevyn do I take it that you are in favor of a genuinely classic railway provided that it doesnt go through your bungalow since you don’t have a hall?

  53. insider 55

    Draco

    Thanks for the gap filling. Can you also tell me how much per tonne those emissions reductions will cost and what percentage of passenger journeys rail accounts for?

    Let;s hope those reductions aren’t as expensive s the biofuel ones where it was expected to cost $75m to save $15m of emissions.

    Rave

    my such envy and anger there. So if Key is to ‘blame’ for any problems following the fall in currency, was he then responsible for any benefits when it appreciated? ISn’t the point of a floating exchange rate that people can buy and sell it, and it can rise and fall? Who was part of the govt that brought that system in?

    Weird how we have a whole load of exporters are wanting the dollar to fall…are they ripping us off too?

  54. rave 56

    Insider,

    anger yes, envy no.
    Key is a parasite. He doesnt work at producing value. He redistributes already produced value. Just like his whole class who asset stripped NZ in the 1980s and 1990s. I know Labour started this off, but who said I was a Labour supporter?
    In the case of the dollar falling, Key and his mates caused this by selling heaps of dollars. At that time it caused prices of imports to rise which hit the consumption of wage workers.
    Exporters want the dollar to fall so they can sell more. Most of that ‘benefit’ goes into their pockets and appreciating land values and doesnt trickle down to workers, thought falling prices of those same commodities in NZ do lower prices to workers.
    Key’s agenda is to get back on the more market road of financiers ripping off value produced by others, workers mainly, but I include self-employed here as well. That is, the huge majority of NZers.
    I object to an economy run by a small bunch of parasites who live off the backs of workers and strike poses as ‘visionaries’, ‘philanthropists’ etc.

  55. Kevyn 57

    Rave, A genuinely classic railway? Well, it really should be located in the genuinely classic motorway designation that crosses the market gardens behind us. And would have to use genuinely classic steam locos…consistent with the character of the neighbourhood.

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    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    3 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    4 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    4 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    5 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    6 days ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    6 days ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    7 days ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    7 days ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Not impressed
    KiwiBuild was one of the Ardern government's core policies. The government would end the housing crisis and make housing affordable again by building 100,000 new homes. Of course, it didn't work out like that: targets weren't met, the houses they did build were in the wrong place, and the whole ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
    A Crown Asset? For reasons relating to its own political convenience, the Crown pretends to believe that “No one owns the water.” To say otherwise would re-vivify the promises contained in the Treaty of Waitangi – most particularly those pertaining to the power of the chiefs and their proprietary rights ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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