In support of Nanaia Mahuta

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1. Antonina 1

   6 November 2020 at 8:24 am

   well said Micky and thank you for writing this.
   • mickysavage 1.1

     6 November 2020 at 7:31 pm

     My pleasure and my obligation.
   • CrimsonGhost 1.2

     9 November 2020 at 7:12 pm

     Chris Trotter ain't a Comrade anymore, just another sell out/shill for the left-liberal faction of the neo-Liberal elite/elitists.
2. Robert Guyton 2

   6 November 2020 at 8:25 am

   "I can understand the attacks from the right. They are motivated by distaste …"

   Poor lambs!

   I applaud the appointment.
3. Tiger Mountain 3

   6 November 2020 at 8:44 am

   Nice piece. Do some of the critics even know what the Kingitanga is one wonders? This woman is definitely someone of status.

   Nanaia and Peeni replacing the reactionaries from NZ First are an opportunity for new approaches. Solidarity networks for the likes of Palestinians and West Papua need to move fast though, because 5 Eyes, internal security agencies and Israeli supporters, will already be trying to capture these two.

   It will be interesting when Nanaia meets some US State Dept. types and drops into the conversation–“so where is it all at with Standing Rock?”
4. JanM 4

   6 November 2020 at 8:58 am

   Chris Trotter has some trouble understanding that white men no longer rule as of right. I feel as though I have hurtled back to the history department of the 60s when I read him sometimes. I personally am proud and happy that Nanaia Mahuta gets to represent us on the international stage. Kia kotahi!

   [Removed spurious text from e-mail address]
   • greywarshark 4.1

     6 November 2020 at 11:00 am

     JanM I think you have trouble understanding discussion and critiquing in general, wanting a rose-strewn path with feminine/feminist bias all the time. Women need to be watched and checked and evaluated as with all candidates for anything, to ensure they are trustworthy and capable. Women and Maori as two groups who have been backgrounded for a long time, can not be indulged with have-a-go, or rah rah, it's your time. It should be a case of equal opportunity, with a recognition of whom is ready and capable to do the job. There should also be a willingness, a desire to have a greater representation of society among those ready to carry out the task. To ensure this all should have an opportunity to learn skills and shine especially those who have not been considered in the past. They must have opportunities to build the skills and abilities, and have places set aside at training institutions, whether in university or practical social work courses. Then equality must be evident in choosing personnel, and thinking widely, we might then see more NZs in positions with aurthoritu instead of the present influx of overseas high flyers.

     It seems that Ms Mahuta's talents can stand any amount of critiquing and comparison with David Parker. It is not unreasonable of Chris Trotter to discuss and test the case.
     • JanM 4.1.1

       6 November 2020 at 1:34 pm

       Are your comments about what I said wilful ignorance or just an excuse to hang your hat on a convenient peg?
       • greywarshark 4.1.1.1

         6 November 2020 at 9:28 pm

         Jibes at anyone who doesn't follow your line of thinking which has superior authority is your style it appears.
     • CrimsonGhost 4.1.2

       9 November 2020 at 7:17 pm

       Yeah nah, Chris is just becoming reactionary in his old age & bummed that his tidbit feeder Parker didn't get the role and be able to provide him with more tidbits LOL.
   • tc 4.2

     6 November 2020 at 11:52 am

     "…I have hurtled back to the history department of the 60s when I read him.." +100

     Trotter's a tame lefty media rent a quote goto they turn to as he doesn't scare the 'horses' like pagani etc. They have to pay the piper eventually.
5. Patricia Bremner 5

   6 November 2020 at 8:59 am

   Nanaia will represent us with dignity and knowledge. She is a believer in the rule of law and a great communicator and listener. She is able to network, and has confidence in her role and is a team player. The World Trade people she met through her Associate Minister of Trade role, congratulated her on her new role and gave a glimpse of the warm relationships and respect in which she is held. I am pleased for her, but more pleased for us. Jacinda Ardern is a very astute leader, and shows that once again.
6. swordfish 6

   6 November 2020 at 9:17 am

   I can understand the attacks from the right. They are motivated by distaste because not only is she not a man but she is not one of them, her skin colour is not quite right as far as they are concerned

   Ohhh, Poor Little Rich Girl.

   Mission of the Political Right: Maintaining power for the Christ College / Whanganui Collegiate Old Boys Network

   Mission of the Woke "Cultural Left": Empowering & ostentatiously celebrating the spoiled, privileged elites of ID demographics deemed "marginalised" … from Old Money Pakeha Woodford House Girls to Blue Blood Indigenous Aristocracy …

   All very emotionally moving for the sort of Upper-Middle Professionals (imbued with a kind of Romantic Paternalism) now firmly in control of supposedly "Left"-leaning Parties.

   Elitist to its very core.
   • RedLogix 6.1

     6 November 2020 at 9:25 am

     Blue Blood Indigenous Aristocracy

     Indeed, most pakeha are quite blind to how very elitist and precisely calibrated are the class distinctions in Maori society.

     Nonetheless, if she is as competent as the OP paints her to be, then this is all that really matters to me.
     • left_forward 6.1.1

       6 November 2020 at 9:53 am

       … very elitist and precisely calibrated…

       If you are pakeha, then the irony of your view is how dangerously close to intellectual elitism and racist it is.

       If you are maori, then I recommend that you look for the deeper nuances within your whanaunga.
       • Redlogix 6.1.1.1

         6 November 2020 at 11:19 am

         Whakapapa. While it is usually explained as genealogy and connection to your past ancestors, there is also no doubt that it very precisely places each individual into a complex hierarchy in the present.

         And that hierarchy has both it's good and oppressive aspects. None of this is terribly controversial, all human societies do this to some degree.
   • left_forward 6.2

     6 November 2020 at 9:26 am

     Sorry – don't understand anything you have written here – too many codified phrases – what are you actually saying?
   • Matthew Whitehead 6.3

     6 November 2020 at 9:30 am

     Happy to discuss elitism within Labour or the Left generally, but what exactly are you citing as evidence here that either Minister Mahuta herself or her appointment is a result of elitism? So far you've just thrown the accusation without really backing it up.
   • mickysavage 6.4

     6 November 2020 at 7:36 pm

     Interesting comment Swordfish. The broad left have discussed for a few decades now the competing arguments of class, race and gender.

     Some see things in class terms only, others in gender terms, others in race terms.

     For me I see class and race as being closely linked. Gender perhaps less so.

     It is a valid argument but one that tends to blow up every time the left has it …
     • swordfish 6.4.1

       7 November 2020 at 6:45 am

       For me I see class and race as being closely linked.

       That's your problem right there.
7. left_forward 7

   6 November 2020 at 9:22 am

   Yes I entirely agree – the critique is completely unwarranted and ignorant.
8. Matthew Whitehead 8

   6 November 2020 at 9:47 am

   Most of the criticism I've seen of this falls into one of three categories:

   a) Obvious racism. I don't think we need to waste time discussing that nonsense, and it discredits anyone who tries it. I'm sure to some degree other critiques are motivated by unconscious racism, and that one's a bit more insidious to get at.

   b) Objecting to how "quiet" Mahuta is- I think you covered this well in the post. There is no reason a Minister has to be flashy, in fact from the PM's perspective there is some benefit to surprising the public or your opponents with everything they've done because they're plugging away in the background. Frankly, being able to sit back and say "this room already has all the questions I want to ask covered, I will observe and report later" or even just "this isn't my area yet, I will be quiet and learn for now" is an underrated political skill, and it is telling that political liches like Stephen Franks think it's disqualifying.

   c) Fetishizing experience- I think Trotter's objection that Parker is more qualified fits in here. There are other ways to be qualified than just the sorts of obvious things you'll have checked in a job interview, although the Minister has some of those as a previous Minister for Trade, too, and I'm willing to take Ardern at her word that she's impressed in that portfolio. (And you know me, I will be skeptical as all hell when there's evidence behind doing so!) Also, Parker may frankly not want MFAT, and is almost certainly the type who will be pleased for Mahuta's promotion. It is uncharitable to push him as an alternative to her given their presumably still close working relationship.

   Mahuta comes from a tradition that is deeply appropriate to this role, and even Pakeha like me can see she's built up an impressive amount of mana for Labour in general and herself in particular, that will be of great value in MFAT. Not only is it past time we gave roles this senior to women, a wahine Māori perspective will be extremely valuable in MFAT and hopefully build new and useful values into the future. And she was actually very impressive in the Labour leadership shuffle debates.

   I think on paper she's a particularly brilliant pick, but obviously as with all Cabinets, we do have to wait and see to a degree whether theory becomes reality. I'm frankly surprised that it's Mahuta that most of the ire has fallen upon, as she seems for less controversial to me than re-appointing Clark, or promoting Jackson.
   • Drowsy M. Kram 8.1

     6 November 2020 at 11:53 am

     Great comment Matthew. Can't recall the last time the appointment of a NZ Foreign Affairs minister engendered such angst.

     Looking at a photo of Mahuta, it's easy to fully understand the origin of that angst in some, but why not give her a fair go – her decisions and actions in this portfolio will be scrutinised as never before; literally like no other.
9. Darien Fenton 9

   6 November 2020 at 9:52 am

   I am so proud of this appointment. I agree what you are seeing is the traditional old boys bullshit that woman have no place in the "real" jobs of the government. It shows NZ is growing up at last.
   • weka 9.1

     6 November 2020 at 10:43 am

     It's very heartening.
10. Brigid 10

    6 November 2020 at 9:53 am

    She withdrew from the Labour list after the seabed and foreshore legislation and stood only as an electorate candidate in Hauraki-Waikato at the next election to truly test the feeling of the electorate. Hows that for courage and strength? How many other politicians have similarly risked their job?

    None.

    Chris Trotter, this time, is so wrong. And why does he think Parker is more fit for the role anyway?
    • tc 10.1

      6 November 2020 at 12:13 pm

      manufacturing dissent as he is a media poodle. No doubt he’s got a snoozefest of an article to back up his thoughts.
11. Brendan 11

    6 November 2020 at 9:56 am

    Nat voter here.

    NZ's Foreign policy is basically the same under Team Blue or Team Red with a different flavour. I.e sell more stuff and don't have a war. I don't see a major change in foreign affairs – other than trying to do as much as possible with possibly smaller budgets due to COVID cuts.

    She has been around for a while in Parliment so she will know how things work. And she will have had lots of practice doing buisness with us whities, which will help with the job. Foreign Affairs will be there to handle the finer protocol details that otherwise might be missed.

    And overseas Ministries of Foreign affairs are be proffessional organizations who just want to get on with buisness (And they know that foreigners like Nanaia are different anyway so they expect them not to act like them).

    All the best for the next 3 years – although she might get sick of airports and air travel once COVID ends.
    • left_forward 11.1

      6 November 2020 at 10:19 am

      Is that all that foreign policy is to a Nat voter? Money and war?
      • Wensleydale 11.1.1

        6 November 2020 at 11:25 am

        That's all foreign policy is to the entire human race, generally speaking. Money, power, resources, and war. The latter is simply one means of acquiring the former.
        • left_forward 11.1.1.1

          6 November 2020 at 12:50 pm

          Doesn’t humanitarianism hold any value across the 'entire' human race?
          • Wensleydale 11.1.1.1.1

            6 November 2020 at 1:48 pm

            Sure it does. But self-interest is a huge aspect of what goes on. Human nature is funny like that.
          • Gabby 11.1.1.1.2

            6 November 2020 at 5:25 pm

            That would be the presence of money and the absence of war.
            • greywarshark 11.1.1.1.2.1

              6 November 2020 at 7:55 pm

              No I don't think so. It has been found that war is a great wealth creator for some. The spending of nations on armaments and just grenades is tremendous. Diana, Princess of Wales was onto that.

              War is a problem to those who get caught up in it as attackers or the attacked, but isn't so terrible for the organisers and those at home who may be just inconvenienced. Ir has proved to be something terrible, that someone is always prepared to countenance; the mind skips over it and Anzac Day has lost the depth of meaning.

              And the fancy equipment and gear development and then the building costs a fortune, and gives a fortune to the businesses involved. So war and money go well together. Wensleydale is right on the button.
12. Rosemary McDonald 12

    6 November 2020 at 10:10 am

    If you all remember…in 2017 Nanaia Mahuta made a staunch stand in Hauraki / Waikato against the Maori Party candidate endorsed by King Tuheitea.

    She held her seat, despite having to go up against the Kingitanga's Chosen One.

    "I never take an election for granted. I've been clear in this election about the issues that Labour would seek to implement to improve the lives of whānau that I represent. And they've heard that message, and they've spoken, and they've returned me back to Parliament for three years,"

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/97172406/labours-nanaia-mahuta-defeats-rahui-papa-in-haurakiwaikato

    I've always admired Nanaia Mahuta, and given the space she'll represent Aotearoa on the world stage with intelligence and grace.
    • weka 12.1

      6 November 2020 at 10:46 am

      Didn't she also slow down her career path for a while to have a child and spend time with her new baby? Some will count that against her, but I think this is a good value to have in an MP.
      • Rosemary McDonald 12.1.1

        6 November 2020 at 11:06 am

        Again, this whahine toa has faced and overcome these challenges.

        Tragedy….

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/vote-08/news/690584/Nanaia-Mahuta-battles-on-after-baby-loss

        Then joy…

        https://www.odt.co.nz/news/politics/mahuta-gives-birth

        ..and the battle to be allowed to be a mother and a sitting MP.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/baby-issue-up-to-speaker/4NHQ7XMCJMB7W5PSVE4IEXYXEM/

        And a very good piece here by Dale Husband in 2014…

        https://e-tangata.co.nz/korero/no-silver-spoon/

        “I’m solid on the Labour Party becoming, once again, what it should always have been when it was at its best … and that it should become even better.

        Those Roger Douglas “reforms” in the 1980s really hurt our communities. It was the Labour Government making those “reforms”. But that really wasn’t Labour in action.

        Labour has a lot of ground to make up after those policies changed the way ordinary people started to see the party. I’m still with Labour because I know we’re better than that. We can achieve much greater equality — and have an economy and an environment that make this a better country to live in.”
13. Reality 13

    6 November 2020 at 10:16 am

    Great to see a quiet and respected achiever is being recognised and that men in suits are having to learn these roles can be held by women.

    Jacinda's diverse caucus is in stark contrast to Judith's, as we saw with post election photos of the two caucuses.
14. Stuart Munro 14

    6 November 2020 at 10:17 am

    I haven't followed her particularly closely, and I am not a fan of facial tats.

    But her rep is very strong. The last Maori we had doing foreign affairs did a great job. And it's a wakeup call to countries that have put less effort into supporting their indigenous peoples.

    I imagine she'll shine, and good on her.
    • greywarshark 14.1

      6 November 2020 at 10:32 am

      
    • RedLogix 14.2

      6 November 2020 at 12:39 pm

      That nails it for me too.
15. Anne 15

    6 November 2020 at 10:21 am

    Around 2012 Nanaia came to my electorate to put the local active membership through a special exercise. She divided us into teams of 5-10 people and gave each team a political circumstance to solve. It could have ended up a bit of a battle ground but it didn't. Nanaia handled the occasion brilliantly and I was very impressed with the way she was able to engage with each of us regardless of our backgrounds and level of importance in the party.

    I think that ability will stand her in very good stead no matter who she is negotiating with. She also comes across to me as a woman of infinite patience too, which could be sorely needed in the times ahead.
16. Siobhan 16

    6 November 2020 at 10:25 am

    "Maori have a very sophisticated and complex understanding of the political process."…qudos for noticing that Maori, like all humans, are inherently political I guess, but what on earth does that mean? and as opposed to whom exactly?..you perchance? or Pakeha (all of them..seeing as were going for broad racial stereotypes today).
    It would be good to read a bit more about Nanaia’s actions as an individual political force rather than so heavily pigeonholing her…and her critics..
    • greywarshark 16.1

      6 November 2020 at 10:34 am

      You're looking for a stern but fair assessment. Fair enough. What Anne says above may be heartening and answer some of your queries?
      • Siobhan 16.1.1

        6 November 2020 at 11:05 am

        Yes..thank you. Annes comment is more what i'm interested in. And more. I'm all for the 'stern but fair assessment' of Labour and its members even though some people interpret such things as being one step away from some sort of Communist style show trial.
        • greywarshark 16.1.1.1

          6 November 2020 at 11:56 am

          You set up the questions well Siobhan, and we throw the balls at the figures in the sideshow. And everyone gets to participate, and who knows who is winning but the idea is to have a try, and the show rolls on with good attendance. Which is what we want I think.
    • weka 16.2

      6 November 2020 at 10:42 am

      Not all cultures are the same. Māori have a particular cultural way of approaching politics. Why does this have to be understood in opposition to something, instead of looking at it in its own right?
      • Siobhan 16.2.1

        6 November 2020 at 11:15 am

        Not all cultures are the same. Then again not all people within each culture are the same….Not all people of any particular gender are the same. Not all people of any generation are the same…yet do we feel the need to point this out on every comment about every individual and their approach to politics?

        …any way..my point was that this piece seemed to lack any real information as to Nanaias particular skills and suitability for the job.,which at the end of the day would the best argument as to her suitability..rather than a tit for tat about 'grumpy old white men' vs 'Maori', let alone the implication that Maori and Pasifika people are somehow inherently the Leftist faction in Labour.
        • weka 16.2.1.1

          6 November 2020 at 12:03 pm

          I felt the need to point it out because you seemed confused about Māori politics.

          We must have read different posts. The one I read is full of Mahuta's skills and suitability for the job.
17. bwaghorn 17

    6 November 2020 at 11:15 am

    So we have a woman pm ,a maori woman foreign affairs minister, the nats had a Maori leader and a Maori woman DP in bennet ( correct me if I'm wrong on that)

    Sounds like maybe we need to stop with the nz is a racist sexist country palaver.
    • weka 17.1

      6 November 2020 at 12:03 pm

      maybe bring that up again when we have pay equity.
18. AB 18

    6 November 2020 at 11:41 am

    I think Chris gives the game away by accusing Mahuta of lacking "verbal felicity". This is the thing that really bothers him, the other stuff about 'courage' etc. he can't possibly know. For a certain type of educated Pakeha (I'd plead guilty here too), this skill of "verbal felicity" is a marker of intelligence. And Trotter illustrates what he perceives as Mahuta's lack of it, by showing off his own through the very use of this phrase. I wouldn't call it racist, but it's very bound up with one particular cultural perspective.
    • greywarshark 18.1

      6 November 2020 at 11:51 am

      Possibly comparing her to Winston – now there was verbal felicity!
    • Gabby 18.2

      6 November 2020 at 5:29 pm

      Trotsker might be unaware how irritating his brand of 'verbal felicity' is in any but very small doses.
      • greywarshark 18.2.1

        6 November 2020 at 7:58 pm

        I think he gets the message about his contributions more than you do.
19. Heather Grimwood 19

    6 November 2020 at 12:04 pm

    Nanaia most certainly has courage Micky ! and not only over Seabed and Seashore. She has dealt with attitudes to capable women prevailing in her early years of activism, with sadness, with producing and raising children while an M.P., characteristically without fanfare and undoubted racial slights with seeming equanimity.
    I first recognised her earnestness at LP conferences….always on tasks at sessions and in between, always friendly and capable, and through the years always answering emails. I remember at a LP conference in Dunedin, The little family sitting quietly at dinner when Nanaia must have been exhausted.
    I wish her well
    Yes, Pat Bremner, Nanaia “has dignity and knowledge.”
    Yes, Tiger Mountain, Nanaia “is definitely a woman of status.”
    Yes, Matthew Whitehead ( at 8 par 3 ), David Parker is most “certainly the type who will be pleased for Nanaia’s promotion. “
20. Ad 20

    6 November 2020 at 12:07 pm

    I would evaluate her on her work.

    The policy work she has done on freshwater governance over the last two years could have been an explosion of poop all over the place. Instead she has subtly tilted the field of discourse towards "of course" and "totally necessary".

    Fresh water governance reform is of course driving policy deep in to rural local government heartland, which is code word for National. All those tiresome fifedoms of farmers electing each other up. But what's coming their way is a shift towards amalgamation of water entities that will require greater common accountability from larger regions for water reliability and water quality. That's Mahuta's work.

    She's formed a very firm bed for policy change that will enable Ardern to have a bit more courage when it comes to water price reform. Which runs of course straight into mana whenua kaitiaki and Treaty claim issues. It would be bonkers not to replace her with a Maori Labour leader in this area. Note again near silence from Maori on water at the moment. That's Mahuta's work.

    The field of policy work that is most strongly open to her in Foreign Affairs is the Pacific Islands Forum, COVID-19 economic development recovery response, and pacific islands regional development. New Zealand frankly needs a te reo speaker there because putting up a Pakeha – no matter how skilled – inevitably has a parochial tint to it. It certainly is an advantage that she comes from the prestigious Mahuta line, and with very strong Kingitanga understanding.

    We have never done a convincing job on this forum, and the testosterone levels within the Melanseian Spearhead Group are quite something. Frankly it needs a female Maori leader to engage on this well. None other have her standing.

    Many Pacific Islands have been proven over COVID19 lockdown to be totally dependent upon tourism trade from ourselves and Australia. She will be an excellent asset landing the new health protocols that will enable flights to re-start, and in dong so re-start the devastated economies of our Realm countries and further afield.

    Often Foreign Affairs is the position you give to the Minister most likely to form a coup against you.

    Instead she has sent one of her most competent, most Pacifika-smart, most relationship-nuanced Cabinet Ministers.

    It's a strong choice.
    • RedLogix 20.1

      6 November 2020 at 12:47 pm

      Thanks for filling out some details. She is a bold choice that was always going to attract some comment. No question she will be under considerable scrutiny to deliver in what is going to be a critical Ministry role in the next few years.

      Like most others here I wish her the best.
    • Patricia Bremner 20.2

      6 November 2020 at 2:05 pm

      Thanks Ad, a good summary.
      I was impressed with her dignified inclusive manner, and this action shows we colonials have begun to cringe less, and have developed pride in our own.
    • mickysavage 20.3

      6 November 2020 at 7:47 pm

      Thanks Ad.

      Agreed entirely about water. This is the big, really big issue for the country. This summer parts of Tamaki Makaurau are going to face severe pressures, worse than last year.

      The Waikato river and Tainui (kia ora) are helping but this is not sustainable.

      And te wai must be clearly in the centre of article two of the Treaty of Waitangi.

      This is a bit of a downer for some but once the Crown makes an agreement it should stick to it.
21. mary_a 21

    6 November 2020 at 12:42 pm

    Well done Labour and Jacinda for appointing Nanaia Mahuta as our Minister of Foreign Affairs.

    I could not be prouder than to have Nanaia represent NZ's interests overseas. Nanaia is a woman with mana and dignity, possessing the necessary ability to calmly draw people together. She will serve our country well.
22. Heather Grimwood 22

    6 November 2020 at 1:09 pm

    [Hopefully fixed. There was some stray text in your name field – MS]
23. Dot 23

    6 November 2020 at 1:29 pm

    Mary -a, you have expressed my thinking well.
    I feel very proud to have Nanaia Mahuta as Aotearoa’s Foreign Minister .
24. Jae 24

    6 November 2020 at 2:18 pm

    Thanks for writing this, couldn't agree more.
25. PsyclingLeft.Always 25

    6 November 2020 at 4:36 pm

    Nanaia seems to have a quiet, measured dignity. Is gravitas the appropriate word? Best Wishes Nanaia !.

    (and I did look this up)….

    Kia kaha, kia maia, kia manawanui
    • mickysavage 25.1

      6 November 2020 at 7:51 pm

      Kia ora.
26. Grafton Gully 26

    6 November 2020 at 7:07 pm

    "There are approximately 476 million Indigenous Peoples worldwide, in over 90 countries."

    https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/indigenouspeoples#:~:text=There%20are%20approximately%20476%20million,percent%20of%20the%20extreme%20poor

    We now have an Indigenous Person as Foreign Minister, who will become known to the 476 million as a woman of Aotearoa/New Zealand. 90 countries is potentially a lot of influence.
    • RedLogix 26.1

      7 November 2020 at 6:59 am

      We now have an Indigenous Person as Foreign Minister

      What was the ethnicity of the previous FM again?
27. peterlepaysan 27

    6 November 2020 at 9:24 pm

    Interesting I cannot find a reference to Nanaia on on either trotters or bradbury's sites.
    • weka 27.1

      7 November 2020 at 12:34 am

      If you make even a minor change to your username or email address the system treats you as a new person and you get caught in the spam filter. I've adjusted your username back to what its been historically onsite. Mods *strongly prefer people to use the same name (choose one name and stick to it).

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