It’s not ok

Written By: - Date published: 12:13 pm, July 9th, 2008 - 53 comments
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Is it a sign of a successful campaign regarding family violence – that “it’s not ok” – which sees broadcaster Tony Veitch taking time away from his television and radio shows in the wake of revelations that he allegedly assaulted his former partner? It certainly seems to have generated quite a bit of discussion amongst my friends – some observing that the days of sweeping domestic violence under the carpet (along with its effects of family and society) are long gone. And if we think this is a good thing, don’t we expect the agents of the this evolution to be supported?

Should we be concerned that Mr Key has raised questions over the future of the Families Commission, who are one of the main sponsors of the anti-Family violence campaign?

KiwiParent Election questionnaire – Families Commission: What value do you place on the role of the Families Commission in New Zealand? What is your party’s intentions towards the Families Commission, do you intend to keep it, disband it, or change its current form?

National believes that the Families Commission should focus on supporting everyday parents. We are not convinced that all of their current work, including advertising campaigns worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, are necessarily of practical help to mums and dads.

For myself as a parent, kept pretty busy looking after my brood, I don’t have a lot of time to think about policy but I’m glad the Families Commission is there to look out for kids. So Mr Key – what are your plans?

53 comments on “It’s not ok”

  1. dave 1

    I’m glad the Families Commission is there to look out for kids.
    If only it was, then I`ll be glad too… The Families Commission does NOT look out for kids and thats not OK either.

  2. sean 2

    “For myself as a parent, kept pretty busy looking after my brood, I don?t have a lot of time to think about policy but I?m glad the Families Commission is there to look out for kids. So Mr Key – what are your plans?”

    How exactly are they looking after kids? Advertisements on TV are as effective at preventing abuse as microchipping a dog is at preventing dog attacks. How much advertising would it take to have prevented the Kahui’s being murdered?

    Kids are still being abused and murdered – we’re lucky if a week goes by without an article on a new abuse case or the failing of CYFS yet again.

    Increasing an advertising budget won’t do sweet FA.

  3. LabourMustBeLiquidated 3

    Have to admire the way you can turn any subject into a pretext to attack John Key.

    [lprent: It sort of comes up. Obviously you don’t read our notes on your comments., but I’ll point you to http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=2009#comment-47433 ]

  4. T-rex 4

    I think the campaign is excellent, but Veitch paid his $100k silence money a year ago, so it’s probably not attributable to it.

    However, it’s certainly nice to see him getting dragged over the coals.

    Tony you cowardly f*ck. I thought you were a nice guy. I gave you the benefit of the doubt when I first heard. I thought “maybe she shoved him, he shoved her, and his shove caused a fall down some stairs inadvertently”. But no, turns out you kicked her repeatedly while on the ground and fractured 4 vertibrae. So, you can go to hell.

    Captcha: Offenses hurts – yes, yes they do. So does being kicked repeatedly in the back. Yet clearly some people are slow at picking up on these little pearls of wisdom.

    Well done Families commission. I approve.

  5. T-rex 5

    Half of behaviour is about perception of appropriate behaviour. Change the perception of what’s ok, and eventually you change the behaviour.

    Do you realise that “I hit her because I love her” is actually used sincerely by some people?

  6. mike 6

    Gee, for a few seconds into this post I thought it was quite refreshing that it wasn’t another attempted Key smear. Too much to ask I guess.

    The Families Commission was a sop to UF for its support and is a total waste of tax dollars. Eg – thousands of dollars on a project to “define the family unit” give me a break

  7. T-rex 7

    Mike, it’s not a “smear” to ask a candidate what their position on an issue is. Don’t be a gumby.

    Thousands of dollars to “define the family unit” sounds like a waste of effort to me, but every organisation has wasted effort, you need to get over it, it’s the only way to have time well spent.

  8. Wasn’t the Families Commission a United Future initiative from 2002? I had a look at their web site, wondering what they do…..and found they had actually done quite a bit. I was surprised.

  9. T-Rex “he beats me because he loves me” is an old Russian saying.

  10. dave 10

    I had a look at their web site, wondering what they do ..and found they had actually done quite a bit. I was surprised.
    Well Steve, why don’t you surprise us all and tell me what you found, and how that helps families.

  11. Steve. The funny thing about the Families Commission is that UnitedFuture wanted it as a reaciotnary institution that was meant to uphold the nuclear family as the superior type of household. Problem is a) they had to employ experts on families to run the Commission and they tend to be clever and pragmatic, not conservative reactionaries b) they couldn’t legally promote the nuclear family above others because it would be a violation of human rights… so we’ve actually ended up with quite a thoughtful, innovative commission doing some good work for families on a shoe-string budget.

  12. dave. why don’t you look it up yourself rather than expecting things to be handed to you on a plate, bludger.

  13. dave 13

    Oh hardy har har Steve, I actually asked what Steve found, not what I found, you egg. I’m not responsible for what Steve finds, but I did look it up, thanks so much for asking. Nothing there that helps our family or any other family – all wastage.

  14. Dancer 14

    I have to admit when the Commission was first proposed I was something of a skeptic. But I’ve been quite impressed by some of their advocacy (I like the extended paid parental leave idea too – and the parenting – the best days work you’ve ever done posters). Won’t be everyone’s cup of tea I understand – but don’t knock it if it makes parents lives easier I say – it’s tough enough already!

  15. Ben R 15

    “Is it a sign of a successful campaign regarding family violence – that “it’s not ok’ – which sees broadcaster Tony Veitch taking time away from his television and radio shows in the wake of revelations that he allegedly assaulted his former partner?”

    Only if you’ve been living under a rock for the last 50 years (in fact probably longer).

    Putting your partner in a wheelchair & then paying for their silence (as alleged) would be considered beneath contempt in any modern society.

    Attributing this to the Families Commission is mistaking correlation with causation.

    Do you honestly think that is why people are outraged about these allegations?

  16. Speaking as someone who was asked to be involved in the “It’s Not Okay” campaign, I’ve been impressed by it. The commission had the relevant agencies all on the same page, and also secured funding for the expected increase in caseload for the likes of Women’s Refuge.

    The brand was cohesive too. I haven’t seen the actual survey results, but earlier this year the campaign reportedly had 89% public recognition, and 20% of respondents said they had taken some action as a result of the campaign. That’s quite extraordinary. There’s also some reason to believe the campaign drove the recent increase in the reporting of family violence.

    I even had a person from the commission come up to me at Wellington Airport, give me his card and tell me to get in touch if and when I had plans for advocacy for families (like ours) affected by autism, which I’d been writing about at the time. I thought that was admirably proactive.

    So, short version: please don’t screw it up.

  17. Do you honestly think that is why people are outraged about these allegations?

    To be fair, not everyone’s outraged. A couple of the Kiwiblog regulars reckon she might have deserved it …

    But seriously, yes, I think that campaign may have helped focus minds around this case. Apart from anything else, it’s conincidentally back on TV, and TVNZ could hardly have gone to Veitch from a a break in which that ad played.

  18. T-rex 18

    lol!

    Probably. GEttin’ lippy and all. What’s a guy ta do?

    Christ, his dinner might even have been a little cooler than he liked!

    Further evidence, for the skeptics above, as to precisely why the “it’s not ok” campaign is money well spent.

  19. You’re telling me T-rex – if I serve Billy his dinner cold I get what for! Just the other night I made him gazpacho – big mistake. I don’t think I need to tell you what a man with his temper is capable of…

    There’re days I wish I’d stayed with redbaiter…

  20. Ruth 20

    The sheer social, emotional, and economical cost of family violence is huge. This campaign has helped focus some minds – and that is a good thing. The money is well spent.

    As an example, the cost to the taxpayer of ONE road fatality is on average 1 million dollars, the cost of sending ONE person on a driving education course is $2000.

  21. Ben R 21

    “But seriously, yes, I think that campaign may have helped focus minds around this case. Apart from anything else, it’s conincidentally back on TV, and TVNZ could hardly have gone to Veitch from a a break in which that ad played.”

    I’m glad to read the campaign is well recognised and may be leading to more people coming forward to report domestic violence. I agree with the main point of this thread that the Families Commission is a worthwhile institution to have.

    But I think it’s a long bow to draw between the campaign & Veitch being taken off air. Clint Brown was off air almost immediately after he was assaulted (after he’d allegedly made some abusive comments to a female taxi driver). Advertisers are extremely sensitive to the shows they’re associated with & the allegations against Veitch are shocking. There was also general outrage when an certain rugby player was given name suppression after assaulting his pregnant wife. That was well before the Family Commission campaign.

    I don’t know if it’s something the Families Commission can look at, but something that surprises me is reports of people drinking during pregnancy.

  22. AndrewE 22

    I think the campaign was a good idea myself. Societal change is actually very hard to achieve and this is something that Labour has been pretty good at in my opinion.

    A few examples that I quite like are that homosexuality has been normalised (a good thing imho), racism is frowned upon etc. I’m not quite convinced about prostitution and am quite frankly disgusted by the lack of prosecutions of the men who use underage prostitutes (but thats another story).

    To get back to the thread I think the advertising campaign reinforces the idea that violence is unacceptable. I just wish there were more serious consequences (and I’m not talking jail) for antisocial behaviour.

    Good on Peter Dunne. For once he did something right.

  23. AndrewE 23

    I don’t know if it’s something the Families Commission can look at, but something that surprises me is reports of people drinking during pregnancy.

    I would argue that they should address the issue of drinking in general.

    I have no idea about the stats but I’d be willing to bet that a significant proportion of domestic assaults happen under the influence of alcohol.

  24. “Good on Peter Dunne. For once he did something right.” – well, he accidently did something right. Kind of like getting a girl pregnant on a one night stand and the kid grows up to be an Astronaut/Doctor/Aid worker who invents cold fusion…

  25. mike 25

    “(I like the extended paid parental leave idea too – and the parenting – the best days work you’ve ever done posters). Won’t be everyone’s cup of tea I understand”

    Dancer – I have 3 pre-schoolers so I know where you are coming from but the Families Commission does nothing to take the load off.

    How about scrap the waste of tax payers money FC and put the millions into making 20hrs free actually “free”

  26. dave 26

    Interesting that the Families Commission has NOTHING in its work programme to address child abuse…

  27. T-rex 27

    Steve – HA! Beautifully put.

  28. AndrewE 28

    dave – do you really think that the Families Commission should address every single hazard facing families?

    FFS – we need to take some personal responsibility for our society.

  29. Daveski 29

    Desperate.

    Everything is skewed to somehow discredit John Key.

    Funny that I read an NZH story about Labour’s obvious strategy to discredit “slippery” JK and gave other specific examples to support it.

    Conclusion:
    1. There is an uncanny similarity between Labour strategy and the Standard’s themes
    2. Labour’s strategy is the theme of the Standard

    While you’re at it … how dumb is this post if you’re trying to dig up dirt? Which politician was embarassed by his actions AFTER being part of the original ad.

    I’m not the first to mention it, but Labour/Standardistas which be on much firmer ground if they continued to push policies and achievements rather than continue with these desperate dirt tactics. Then again, I’d be delighted to see you continue to push these tactics which will simply ensure Labour’s defeat.

    [lprent: The more I hear that particular line from the right, the more I think it is the right approach for Key. It is obviously causing some pain somewhere if we’re getting such a consistent line for so long. Of course it always has our best interests at heart.
    4 months to the election – sounds like someone is worried about stamina?]

  30. Ben R 30

    “I just wish there were more serious consequences (and I’m not talking jail) for antisocial behaviour.”

    What are you suggesting then?

    “I would argue that they should address the issue of drinking in general.

    I have no idea about the stats but I’d be willing to bet that a significant proportion of domestic assaults happen under the influence of alcohol.”

    I suspect you’re right about that & probably a lot of assaults generally. I think ALAC have already been running that “it’s not the drinking, it’s how we’re drinking campaign” for a while?

    A study in 2006 on awareness of the damage drinking during pregnancy does is pretty alarming. Particularly when you consider they might be ruining some kids life before they’ve even started (even the US has warning labels on alcoholic beverages – something I think they’re looking at doing here):

    “A University of Otago survey reveals New Zealand women are not getting the message that no alcohol should be consumed during pregnancy. More than half the women surveyed believed some alcohol was safe to drink while pregnant…

    “Alcohol is known to be one of the main causes of brain damage in the unborn baby. And unfortunately the damage can be done before the woman knows she is pregnant. Any woman who is planning a pregnancy or pregnant should stop alcohol altogether as the new national guidelines from the Ministry of Health make clear.”

    http://www.otago.ac.nz/news/news/2006/13-07-06_press_release.html

  31. dave 31

    Dave – do you really think that the Families Commission should address every single hazard facing families?
    Well since we are on the subject of family violence, why don’t we set up a Family Violence Death Review Committee so we can better understand why deaths resulting in family violence occur after they have happened, no need for a coroners report the FVDRC can do it instead – d`you lefties think that would be a good idea, or is that just a bit silly…

  32. AndrewE 32

    It’s a little silly indeed.

    Hmm…am I a lefty? I thought I was a righty. Nevermind.

  33. dave 33

    Andrew (and others) why wouldnt a Family Violence Death Review Committee help, we could find out all the causes of people dying in family violence situations and write up a report and get it commissioned by the Families Commission.

  34. AndrewE 34

    why deaths resulting in family violence occur

    I suspect you meant “why deaths as a result of family violence occur”?

    It would be useful to find out if there are common patterns and then action them. I suspect that we already know what some of the common patterns are – alcohol abuse etc.

  35. dave 35

    I suspect you meant “why deaths as a result of family violence occur’
    No, I meant why deaths resulting from family violence occur.

    That will exclude a person who commits suicide as a result of being caught smacking his kids – and therefore not being incorporated in the reporting of the Family Violence Death Review Committee.

  36. It’s okay andrew – I’ve got you marked down in my ledger as a rightie, albeit a sensible one that should really have been a leftie were it not for some terrible quirk of fate…

    Y’know – it’s never too late to change…

  37. AndrewE 37

    Sod: Does that mean come the revolution I’m the last up against the wall? 😉

    Dave: Aah, I didn’t think of that. Why not? It would be interesting to know if any such cases exist.

  38. Ben R 38

    Apology/admission now made I see.

  39. Tane 39

    That will exclude a person who commits suicide as a result of being caught smacking his kids

    Eh?

  40. Sod: Does that mean come the revolution I’m the last up against the wall?

    Bro – come the revolution I suspect it’ll be me up against the wall pretty early on…

  41. Graeme 41

    Well since we are on the subject of family violence, why don’t we set up a Family Violence Death Review Committee so we can better understand why deaths resulting in family violence occur after they have happened, no need for a coroners report the FVDRC can do it instead – d`you lefties think that would be a good idea, or is that just a bit silly

    It’s a little silly indeed.

    Nice try Dave – but at least you got one bite.

  42. fraser 42

    “I read an NZH story” – well obviously that makes it true then 🙂

    ps: i mean that from a “nzh is generally sub par” angle, not a “nzh is a tool of the vast right wing conspiracy” angle

  43. Scribe 43

    Apology/admission now made I see.

    Interesting question (to which I have no answer): How did Tony Veitch cover the Sitiveni Sivivatu wife-beating incident? Hmmmmmmm.

  44. Draco TB 44

    FFS – we need to take some personal responsibility for our society.

    Some people need to be informed of their responsibilities. This is why the ‘It’s not OK’ campaign is working. People previously didn’t think that a child being abused was their responsibility but now that they’re aware that it is they’re doing something about it.

  45. Lew 45

    Scribe: Veitch is not among those who commented on the matter at all, neither on his Breakfast Sport show nor on One News. At least not between 12 April 2007 when Sivivatu’s name suppression was lisfted and 1 May 2007.

    Others did; Veitch didn’t. Generally speaking, sports coverage doesn’t focus on matters of player conduct except inasmuch as it might affect their selection or a team’s chances, so this is not surprising for the Radio Sport side of things. In One News copverage the issue was treated as news, not as sport, so Veitch wasn’t involved there.

    L

  46. John 46

    “Interesting question (to which I have no answer): How did Tony Veitch cover the Sitiveni Sivivatu wife-beating incident? Hmmmmmmm”

    Like an experienced professional I guess

  47. Scribe 47

    Thanks for that, Lew. I’m sure he’s glad he didn’t now.

  48. dave 48

    People previously didn’t think that a child being abused was their responsibility but now that they’re aware that it is they’re doing something about it.
    Yes, its nice that someone beats up their wife with the awareness knowledge that it is their responsibility…
    but when is the awareness going to change behaviour before someone is killed and the perpretrator reported to the Family Violence Death Review Committee…

  49. darryl p 49

    Personally I think the “It’s not OK” campaign is money well spent as well and I am a rightie.

    However, before I could make up my mind about keeping the Families Commission or dropping it I’d want to know how much the Families Commissions budget is. If it’s excessive and the output is minimal then I would suggest that the money would be better spent by distributing it to agencies that are set up to look after those areas already – for example the Womens Refuge. Most advertising agencies look after clients like the Womens Refuge on a pro-bono basis but if the Womens refuge had more money to spend on media placement then you could argue they would get a better result for less money.

    Rather then making this a political football, I’d rather see a discussion based around “could the families commission money be better spent elsewhere to get a better result”

    However if the Families Commission is not a huge drain on the taxpayer and the results it achieves are good then I agree with Russell Brown, let it be.

    There’s certainly other government agencies that should feel the chop before the Families Commission. Youth Affairs has always been a joke and I think Youth Affairs money is much better spent by giving it to the charity organisations already set up to look after youth problems.

    I disagree with Dancer about the “best days work you’ve ever done” campaign though. People that love their families don’t need to be told that and people that don’t care about their families wouldn’t give a toss. That money could have definitely been better spent elsewhere – even if it was only used to build four new houses for low income families.

  50. Dean 50

    “lprent: The more I hear that particular line from the right, the more I think it is the right approach for Key. It is obviously causing some pain somewhere if we’re getting such a consistent line for so long. Of course it always has our best interests at heart.
    4 months to the election – sounds like someone is worried about stamina?”

    If a good mate of yours bought a new jumper and thought he looked great in it, but everyone else thought he looked like a fashion reject, would you have the heart to tell him? Yeah, it’s kind of like that.

    I can’t speak for everyone, but I thought this site was far more interesting when people actually debated policy instead of post after post after post of someoneones wearing that same horrible jumper.

    We’re embarassed for you, lprent.

    [lprent: Good to have your vote on continuing to look at C/T. We always value your opinion.
    The policy vacuum from the Nats reduces the writers ability to discuss it. We’ve been through everyone else.]

  51. Oliver 51

    It shouldn’t be hard to save the best bits of the family commission and cull the useless bits that simply produce fluffy reports to gather dust or replecate the work done by other departments.

  52. To me, “everyday parents” sounds suspiciously like “mainstream New Zealanders;” remember them?

  53. ross david 53

    “Should we be concerned that Mr Key has raised questions over the future of the Families Commission?”

    I am sure the Families Commission can defend itself. I am sure it can give specific details of the economic and social benefits from the government’s $28m investment during the commission’s first four years, just like the government will, in due course, be able to tell us what it expects the rate of return to be on its investment in KiwiRail. Once the Families Commission has given John Key and the wider public all the necesssary information, I have no doubt that its future will be secure under a National Government.

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    6 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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