John Banks; Conviction Quashed

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Disgraced former National MP, ACT leader and Auckland Mayor John Banks has had his appeal against conviction for electoral fraud upheld and his conviction quashed. He has been formally acquitted and there will be no second trial.

The Court of Appeal has accepted that Kim Dotcom changed his evidence once affidavits from American witnesses contradicted his claims about the date and circumstances of the lunch at which it was alleged that Banks took two $25k cheques in order to circumvent electoral law. Kim ‘two lunches’ Dotcom’s credibility has dropped even further, possibly harming his ongoing attempt to avoid deportation to the States to face charges there.

Banks is now free to run for the Auckland mayoralty next year, presumably against Labour’s Phil Goff.

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  1. alwyn 1
    19 May 2015 at 12:23 pm

    Is there any chance that DotCom will be charged with perjury?
    Seems appropriate to me.

    • Clemgeopin 1.1
      19 May 2015 at 12:33 pm

      Leaving aside the court verdict, do you personally and honestly believe that John Banks is not guilty?

      And talking about ‘appropriate’, did the Parnell pony-tail pulling behaviour by the other John, our esteemed Prime Minister, also seem appropriate to you?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2
      19 May 2015 at 1:04 pm

      Does it? The Solicitor General’s remarks – quoted below by Penny Bright – show just how twisted and prejudiced your opinion is.

      But we already knew that.

      • alwyn 1.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 1:54 pm

        “The Solicitor General’s remarks – quoted below by Penny Bright – show just how twisted and prejudiced your opinion is. ”

        Really? You mean that the Solicitor General is squeaky clean?
        I’m not surprised that he is trying to defend himself. After all isn’t he the man responsible for what led to the Court of Appeal saying’
        “”We hold rather that the Crown could not both withhold the memorandum and resist the appeal in the manner that it did. The effect was to mislead the Court.”

        He has just been given a caning by a clearly very unhappy Court who have been mislead by this man and his minions.
        I think that after a slapping down like this he really ought to be considering whether he can stay in the job. Has any other person in this job been admonished quite so harshly?

        • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 2:34 pm

          No, I’m saying that you really ought to inform yourself before running your mouth.

          Her evidence supported the defence case, which was that Mr Banks and Mr Dotcom had held a private and quite different discussion about donations in a conservatory or loggia off the dining room.

          The Court of Appeal.

          Oops.

          • alwyn 1.2.1.1.1
            19 May 2015 at 2:55 pm

            Where exactly does that statement, that you are giving as a direct quotation, come from?
            Then I can find out who “she” is and when this was, if at all, said.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2.1.1.1.1
              19 May 2015 at 2:57 pm

              Paragraph 13 of the judgement. You haven’t read the judgement?

              That was obvious.

              • alwyn …
                19 May 2015 at 3:15 pm

                But this doesn’t say, and give any information about, what the discussion may have been.
                If Banks had asked DotCom for a donation, in private, and been told that DotCom would give something then there is no way of saying that Banks knew who had actually given anything and could have honestly signed any return as saying that they were anonymous.
                The argument that he knew depended on Kim’s little helpers claiming that they were present for the meeting and that cheques were handed over.
                They weren’t present if there were such a private meeting and the only people who could possibly comment on what happened there were Banks and DotCom. DotCom has clearly been proved to be a liar, or if that is too strong for your constitution, an “unreliable witness”

                • One Anonymous Bloke …
                  19 May 2015 at 3:21 pm

                  In fact, the C of A’s judgement is that the Crown made an “error of process”.

                  Human memory being what it is, witness reliability is a myth, I am reliably informed by my legal chums.

                  What is not in doubt is that the conversation occurred, that two cheques were made out, and that Banks subsequently characterised them as anonymous donations when, by his own statements to the Court, he knew damn well who they were from.

                  One thing is clear: that’s ok with you. Let’s agree to disagree.

                  • Andrew Carrot …
                    19 May 2015 at 3:55 pm

                    Actually, the CoA determined that there had been a miscarriage of justice. The “error of process” that you refer to was sufficiently overt to allow the CoA to conclude that there had been a miscarriage. This is a very serious determination by the court.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke …
                      19 May 2015 at 7:15 pm

                      John Banks to 3News, 27th April 2012: “Well I met with them, I know them, but I can’t recall discussing money with them.”

                      John Banks’ defence in court: ‘that discussion didn’t take place at the dinner table’.

                      Your candidate for mayor of Auckland. Will you wipe him off your shoe or tread him all over the carpet?

                    • alwyn …
                      20 May 2015 at 2:14 pm

                      You are right of course. They did describe it as a “miscarriage of justice” didn’t they.
                      Quite a rare thing that. It was what was said about the Arthur Allan Thomas Case, and about David Dougherty and as probable about David Bain.
                      Quite damning about the senior lawyers involved isn’t it.

                • dukeofurl …
                  19 May 2015 at 9:09 pm

                  Banks was proved a liar in a previous court case in 2003.

                  The judge said his sworn affidavit didnt match his testimony.

                  So who has been ‘proven a liar previously’ ?

    • dukeofurl 1.3
      19 May 2015 at 1:28 pm

      Read the original judgement.

      John Banks personally went out to solict his campaign donations and made them out as anonymous when he knew who they were. Thats an offence.

      The legal technicalities mean he has got away it. Doesnt mean he didnt do it.

  2. Clemgeopin 2
    19 May 2015 at 12:23 pm

    Oh, how nice! Now we are blessed with not one, but TWO honest Johns! John Key and John Banks! Jesus wept!

  3. Old Mickey 3
    19 May 2015 at 12:23 pm

    In breaking news – Penny Bright & Graham McCready are filing a public prosectuion against Kim DotCom for perjury.

  4. Detrie 4
    19 May 2015 at 12:25 pm

    I don’t agree with J Banks policies and always thought him a self-serving egotist, like many politicians. But we always thought his heart was in the right place and he at least tried to do good work, be it in a somewhat misguided fashion. We’d never vote for the guy, but don’t have issue with him being in the next race against Phil Goff. Both appear honourable men, which is more than you can say for the incumbent.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 4.1
      19 May 2015 at 1:09 pm

      Yeah, the man who forgets helicopter rides and speeches at birthday parties is totally in the clear. No, wait, I’m glad his career has been so thoroughly tarnished: he’s a hatemonger who deserves every bit of it.

      • Tracey 4.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 5:49 pm

        knew nothing about finances of hujlich when being paid as ED.

        he is not guilty but i dont want a mayor who signs stuff he doesnt read…. or one he takes the pay but is hands off.

    • dukeofurl 4.2
      19 May 2015 at 1:20 pm

      Dont forget the other donation from Sky City.

      Banks met personally with the top management to ask for money ($25,000) and he walked out the door with the cheque in his pocket and then listed it as “anonymous”

      Unknown to Banks , Sky City listed the donation in its annual report- which is where all this saga began.

      Luckily for Banks , because the cheque was in his name, it was returned to Sky City and a new cheque was made out in ‘Team Banksy’.

      Purely because of this technicality Banks escaped conviction on this charge. The solicting of Dotcoms money was in a smiliar manner.

      The reality is Banks made false declarations on ALL of his so called anonymous donations.

      This case made the law clear, if you know who made the donation, you cant make it anonymous.

      You can see the panic in nationals donation to individual candidates, where in virtually all cases they had to use an intermediary , head office national party, to cover up who made most of the candidate donations

  5. Richard Christie 5
    19 May 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Without doubt, people are lying.
    The question is who is lying?

    Personally I believe it to be those supporting the person caught holding two cheques rather than the person who for no imaginable reason chose to write two cheques, when one would have sufficed.

    • Bob 5.1
      19 May 2015 at 2:52 pm

      So you believe the person who received a dodgy payment rather than the person that made a dodgy payment, and this is based on nothing other than political alliances, does that sum things up?

      I would rather the facts be played out in court and let a judge decide, but now we can’t even get that because the person that made a dodgy payment (the one you believe) ‘changed his story’ (which could be construed as lying, and would most definitely make Blip’s list if this was John Key we were talking about) when his affidavit was contradicted by other parties.
      This doesn’t mean the person that received the payment wasn’t a guilty party, but we may never find out the full story now because the person you believed, according to the courts, now shouldn’t be believed, but that doesn’t stop you believing them.

      Glad we cleared that up.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 2:56 pm

        You misread Richard’s comment. He says the supporters of the man holding two cheques are lying.

        • Richard Christie 5.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 10:18 pm

          Thanks OAB, you read my comment correctly, however upon reflection I withdraw it. I cannot know what went on at each occasion under scrutiny.

          I do nevertheless believe the man left holding the two cheques to be the liar.

          Whether the conversation was at one dinner party or at another is largely immaterial to the substance of the charge, for somebody, at some stage, advised KDC to write two cheques instead of one to be paid into Mr John Banks’ campaign fund. No prizes for knowing from whence the instruction came.

          Banks has escaped on a technicality of process which has allowed him to avoid answering the serious substance of the allegations.

    • Tracey 5.2
      19 May 2015 at 5:50 pm

      i suspect dotcom and banks are both liars.

  6. Colonial Rawshark 6
    19 May 2015 at 12:34 pm

    I see the old school establishmentarians can’t resist putting the boot into Dotcom with snide remarks. At least Dotcom made a serious effort and investment to hold Banks to account. He deserves credit for that.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 6.1
      19 May 2015 at 1:17 pm

      “Serious”? His diary fail has thrown this vile criminal hatemonger a lifeline.

      • alwyn 6.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 2:23 pm

        ” this vile criminal hatemonger ”
        Is DotCom really that bad? I’ve never met him but perhaps some of you who are his mates could comment.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 6.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 2:29 pm

          Let me make this perfectly clear so that even you can understand it: John Banks is a vile criminal hatemonger.

      • Colonial Rawshark 6.1.2
        19 May 2015 at 2:24 pm

        Why fucking help the Left, after all, is the lesson Dotcom should take away from this court case debacle, the time and money he has put into it. They are an ungrateful bunch of losers.

        • te reo putake 6.1.2.1
          19 May 2015 at 2:36 pm

          What’s it got to do with the left? The principle players in the court case, KDC, Banks and McCready, all seem to be various shades of right wing. His only assistance to the left appears to be putting a few of us on the payroll for a while, when it looked to be advantageous to his personal circumstances to do so. As far as I can see, his ‘help’ has destroyed one left party and hobbled two others. Do we really need that kind of assistance?

        • McFlock 6.1.2.2
          19 May 2015 at 2:41 pm

          lol
          The only reason he put money into the left was because the money he gave to banks got him absolutely nothing.

          • Andrew Carrot 6.1.2.2.1
            19 May 2015 at 3:57 pm

            So he attempted to buy the right, and failed, and then attempted to buy the left and succeeded. Oh dear.

            • Colonial Rawshark 6.1.2.2.1.1
              19 May 2015 at 4:08 pm

              So he attempted to buy the right, and failed

              well, more precisely the Right took his money, made promises, and reneged.

              • Andrew Carrot …
                19 May 2015 at 4:21 pm

                I’m not sure what those promises would have been, given that it was a local government election. He pays candidates to get influence. And clearly the payments come with one expectation: get results or i’ll take you down. So when Banks didn’t get him released from Auckland Remand Centre (as if he could), he pulled out the threat/promise. Some call it bribery, others call it patronage.

              • Colville. …
                19 May 2015 at 4:22 pm

                Got a link to the promises Bank made and reneged on?

                Or you just made that bit up? yip thought so.

                • One Anonymous Bloke …
                  19 May 2015 at 4:30 pm

                  If I help you in the the future it’s better no-one knows about your donation.
                  John Archibald Banks.

                  So no, not made up.

                  • Colville. …
                    19 May 2015 at 4:35 pm

                    Link?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke …
                      19 May 2015 at 4:39 pm

                      Google is your friend, although I do offer a Google search service at an exhorbitant fee which you can’t afford.

                    • Colville. …
                      19 May 2015 at 4:59 pm

                      Well instead of spending my valuable time googling your imaginary quotation I made an apple pie.

                      [It’s not imaginary. However, it’s not directly a John Banks quote. It’s Kim Dotcom’s evidence in court about what Banks said to him at the time the cheques were signed and was clearly accepted by the court that convicted Banks as being reasonably accurate. Next time, please do use google first. Otherwise you end up wasting my valuable time. And that won’t end well. TRP]

                    • One Anonymous Bloke …
                      19 May 2015 at 5:05 pm

                      Willful ignorance is your friend.

                    • Colville. …
                      19 May 2015 at 6:46 pm

                      I thought the apple pie was far more worthy of my time…

                      and still no one has put up a link to this most well known of quotes…

                    • One Anonymous Bloke …
                      19 May 2015 at 6:48 pm

                      Must you provide supporting evidence for dubious psychological studies of right wing “thought”?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke …
                      19 May 2015 at 6:54 pm

                      still no one has put up a link

                      I’m happy to paraphrase it for you:

                      Crown: Mr. Banks, you told Mr. Dotcom at the dinner table that “If I help you in the future it’s better no-one knows about your donation.”

                      Banks: I can’t remember meeting that man and in any case the conversation happened in the conservatory.*

                      *Remember when the lying trash you’re placing your faith in said he couldn’t remember meeting KDC, and then gave evidence in court that they’d discussed political donations? How we laughed at you.**

                      **I laughed at you. Other more charitable folk laughed at lamented your willful blindness and gutter ethics.

                  • Ron …
                    20 May 2015 at 8:54 am

                    Obviously the help did not extend to helping Dotcom get a decent mattress whilst in gaol.
                    In fact it did not even extend to help at all.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke …
                      20 May 2015 at 9:00 am

                      Obviously the public statements Mr. Banks made: that he could not remember discussing donations, were lies, as shown by the discrepancies between his media statements and evidence given under oath.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 6.1.2.2.1.2
              19 May 2015 at 4:19 pm

              It’s the right wing overbite – pretending Mana is “The Left” – neuters their rhetoric every time.

              • McFlock …
                19 May 2015 at 5:24 pm

                alongside their questionable definitions of “succeeded”.
                Dotcom did for mana what Fox does to news presenters every day – you don’t direct them to change their tune for you, you just pay the ones who sing your tune.

                • One Anonymous Bloke …
                  19 May 2015 at 5:28 pm

                  That being the case, I suppose the difference is that Fox provides value for money.

                  • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell …
                    19 May 2015 at 7:03 pm

                    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Apple pie.

    • Bill 6.2
      19 May 2015 at 1:32 pm

      The fact is that it was the Crown Prosecution that fucked up; not Kim Dotcom.

      “The Crown misled the Court of Appeal by failing to disclose a document to John Banks ahead of an appeal hearing, according to a new judgment.”

      Still, precious few will let the facts get in the way of reflexive self righteousness and of pointing fingers of condemnation towards that most favoured of bogey men.

      edit – and so, what may well be considered a political judgement sails under the radar …

      • dukeofurl 6.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 1:45 pm

        Crown prosecutors do this sort of thing all the time.

        Look at Kim Dotcoms prosecution , littered with mistakes and unlawful actions.

        Court of Appeal has gone a long with a free pass to the Crown in all those instances.

      • te reo putake 6.2.2
        19 May 2015 at 1:49 pm

        Actually, both KDC and the prosecution fucked up. Dotcom ‘forgot’ about the second lunch until after Banks’ wife came up with the affidavits. The prosecution failed to alert the court and the defence of the change of KDC’s testimony. The initial fuckup was Dotcom’s and that was compounded by the prosecution’s mistake.

        • Bill 6.2.2.1
          19 May 2015 at 2:08 pm

          The inverted commas suggest you don’t believe Kim Dotcom forgot or got confused. The central issue around the donations remains the same regardless. (ie – did it happen at this dinner or that dinner is a ‘who gives a fuck?’ piece of background…no-one denies the substantive issues around the donations.).

          Which then begs the question as to why everything’s been kicked into touch.

          • te reo putake 6.2.2.1.1
            19 May 2015 at 2:14 pm

            Confused, Bill. As I understand it, KDC had one date in mind, then suggested another, then said there were two lunches, then finally reverted to the original date.

            • Bill 6.2.2.1.1.1
              19 May 2015 at 2:23 pm

              And if whatever clarification from Kim Dotcom had been passed to the defence by the Crown last October, then everything would have proceeded in a normal legal fashion, yes?

              • te reo putake …
                19 May 2015 at 2:30 pm

                No. I believe that the appeal court has indicated that if it had known of the retraction/change of date it might not have ordered the re-trial. That is, it may well have thrown the case out at that point.

                • Bill …
                  19 May 2015 at 4:50 pm

                  heh – surely they’d have stated that to be the case (shonky witness evidence) if that was the case? That they throw up a technicality as an excuse to throw everything into touch suggests simply that any possible way out was going to be grasped.

                  And as McFlock comments, off below somewhere, Crown prosecution had to be shamed into taking the case in the first fucking place.

                  But hey, sit back and watch the next round of hate and ridicule being unleashed on the bogey man.

                  • te reo putake …
                    19 May 2015 at 5:14 pm

                    They do state that to be the case, Bill. In the judgement, they find that if they’d known about the relevant facts at the time, they would not have ordered the retrial. So not just a technicality, but a finding about the substantial nature of the evidence.

                    It’s at the end of the judgement, which can be found here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11451091

                    • Bill …
                      19 May 2015 at 6:54 pm

                      I’m just reading it as saying that since everyone was ‘settled’ on the discussion having taken place on the 5th when they ordered a retrial, then they couldn’t order a re-trial where the Crown were going to say the discussion took place on the 9th.

                      That’s nothing to do with dodgy evidence per se. More like a convenient ‘out’, opened wide and beckoned to by the Crown.

                    • Richard Christie …
                      19 May 2015 at 11:45 pm

                      Retrials involving new scenarios are no barrier, ask Mark Lundy.

          • Robert M 6.2.2.1.2
            19 May 2015 at 3:47 pm

            I think it unlikely that the American businessmen were anymore credible than Moana or Dot Com. Our lingo is not Dot Com’s first language and he clearly had little understanding of our politics or legal system.
            The glaring fact , is that Act needed the money and Act needed Banks. What a worthless illprincipled party

            • Andrew Carrot 6.2.2.1.2.1
              19 May 2015 at 4:11 pm

              I believe this case is all about the funding of John Banks’ 2010 mayoralty campaign. I don’t think Banks was even a member of Act when this was all unfolding. He was still a Nat then.

              And where ‘Dotcom’s donation cheques are concerned, one witness who has been spared closer examination by the MSM is Dotcom’s accountant at the time, McCavanagh – the cheque writer and (according to him) the depositor. The guy was murdered by the defence in court; under cross-examination he admitted that everything he had said about the banking of The Cheques in Queenstown by him was a lie, as the cheques were actually deposited in a Westpac branch in Albany, which is quite a few miles and a couple of flights away from said holiday town. He too got the days of the meetings wrong, among other things. For some reason known only to His Honour, Wylie J seemed to regard McCavanagh’s testimony as reliable.

              • Tracey …
                19 May 2015 at 5:58 pm

                yup. and banks still signs declarations without reading them

                cos he doesnt take declarations at law seriously
                he wants to deny the contents later
                he is not intelligent

                not guilty of a crime but hardly the talents for mayor of auckland

                • Rodel …
                  19 May 2015 at 7:43 pm

                  Trust dot com?…never
                  Trust John Banks?…Sure Can (not)
                  Two liars don’t make make a truth.

              • Tracey …
                19 May 2015 at 6:00 pm

                oh and the accntnt didn’t look gd in the original finding as i recall so did get scrutinised contrary to your claim.

    • dukeofurl 6.3
      19 May 2015 at 3:34 pm

      The person who started the ball rolling was Mallard

      Sky City published its annual report listing a $15,000 donation to Banks which started Mallard going.
      KDC only got going after this was public.

  7. Penny Bright 7
    19 May 2015 at 12:38 pm

    ‘Sensational’ Court of Appeal decision?

    More like bloody unbelievable!

    How did Kim Dotcom know to split his $50,000 donation into 2 x $25,000 donations?

    OSMOSIS?

    If John Banks knew the identity of electoral donor – Kim Dotcom – then Kim Dotcom’s donation(s) should NOT have been listed as ‘anonymous’ – end of story.

    John Banks should not have relied upon his Treasurer to compile the list of donors, when his Treasurer was NOT present at all meetings when donations were discussed or solicited.

    I’m with the Solicitor-General on this one!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11440033

    ” …The Solicitor-General, Mike Heron, QC, appeared by video-link and maintained that while Kim Dotcom’s evidence against Mr Banks has changed since the first trial, the story remained the same in one crucial respect.

    The Butler memorandum did not change the key plank of the false electoral charge, said Mr Heron.

    “Dotcom maintains there was a conversation with Banks in his house about donations. There is no fundamental change about whether there was a conversation. Mr Banks himself accepts that.

    “Mr Banks knew that these donations had been made. He knew who the donor was. Whether there was one lunch or two, cannot totally undermine that,” said Mr Heron.

    This was backed by the corroborating evidence that the two cheques were made out for $25,000 each.

    Mr Heron said he was “not defending Mr Dotcom’s credibility for one moment” but a judge could rely on parts of his evidence and dismiss others, as Justice Edwin Wylie did when he convicted Mr Banks.

    Mr Heron said there was also an issue around whether the Butler memorandum needed to be disclosed to the defence and, in any case, the material did not change the key tenet of Dotcom’s evidence.

    ….”

    In my opinion, there should have been a retrial.

    Penny Bright

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz

    • Dave_1924 7.1
      19 May 2015 at 12:51 pm

      Yeah Penny, you know the law soooo much better than 3 Judges on the bench of NZ’s ultimate court of law, outside parliament. Brilliant. I take it you won’t be apologising then ….

      • One Anonymous Bloke 7.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 12:59 pm

        Mr. Heron’s remarks show that for once, Ms. Bright has nothing to apologise for.

        • Dave_1924 7.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 1:20 pm

          Mr Heron’s remarks? The counsel for the prosecution…….. Hmmmm yeah right. Weighed and founded wanting by three judges of the NZ Supreme Court…

          Banks and his campaign team were dumb filing as they did. But just because Banks wouldn’t be bought and intervene to help KDC when he was in jail, doesn’t make him a criminal and corrupt.

          But you know OAB – the playbook has been set and the endless left smears right, right smears left will continue ad nauseam . And the average punter gets no benefit to their life from all these super smart people running around in circles of small time politic bs…

          • One Anonymous Bloke 7.1.1.1.1
            19 May 2015 at 1:25 pm

            😆

            You really ought to read what they said if you’re going to pretend to know all about it.

            We are satisfied that there has been a serious error of process. It is, we accept, attributable to an error of judgment rather than misconduct.

            Getting off on a technicality means you’re in the clear on Wingnut.

            • Dave_1924 7.1.1.1.1.1
              19 May 2015 at 3:07 pm

              “Getting off on a technicality means you’re in the clear on Wingnut.”

              ?? What does that even mean? Why resort to the old you don’t agree with me you’re a wingnut/from wingnut blah blah personal attack bs OAB?

              An accusation of KNOWINGLY filling in an incorrect electoral return was made against Banks. It relied on KDC and his cohorts testimony. That testimony has been shown to be all over the place in terms of who was where, when and what was discussed. The key thing of knowingly asking for donations to be made anonymously has not been proven

              Banks has been acquitted…..

              The error of judgement comment above is all about the legal fraternity not coming down hard on its own. Heron and his office “made an error judgment” in not sharing evidence with the defence and the court. yeah right…. In my opinion that is very close to saying misconduct but we will let you walk right now….

              • One Anonymous Bloke …
                19 May 2015 at 3:11 pm

                “All over the place”

                In fact, in part, Banks’ defence is that he had a conversation with Dotcom about donations, so that salient detail is not in doubt.

                Perhaps it’s ok with you if politicians solicit their own donations. If so, then Cabinet Club says you’re probably a National Party enabler voter.

          • dukeofurl 7.1.1.1.2
            19 May 2015 at 1:49 pm

            Dont forget the Skycity donation, which was the place it all started ( KDC only chimed in after it become public).

            It too was a technicality that go tBanks off ( they had to re-issue the cheque)

            he walked out of the building with the cheque is his pocket, for gods sake.

            And then tried to claim ( but not in the witness box) amnesia when it was time to sign the declaration of his donations.

            Who is the biggest liar here ?

            • Dave_1924 7.1.1.1.2.1
              19 May 2015 at 3:11 pm

              Duke… not going to disagree with you. Politicians using trusts to hide identities of donors and incorrectly filling in electoral forms is just rubbish in my view. But Banks is not alone in any of that type of behaviour

              I’d like to see the Police grow some nads’ and actually hammer politicians and their staff for the numerous incidents of breaking electoral law that occur. Incorrect returns, tweeting political messages on election day and all the rest of the dodgy behaviour and end around behaviours.

              • One Anonymous Bloke …
                19 May 2015 at 3:13 pm

                grow some nads

                Too funny: you think they’re too afraid to lay charges.

              • Draco T Bastard …
                19 May 2015 at 6:31 pm

                But Banks is not alone in any of that type of behaviour

                Ah, the old RWNJ defense of But THEY did it toooooo

                And, yes, more politicians should be behind bars at this moment in time.

          • dukeofurl 7.1.1.1.3
            19 May 2015 at 3:12 pm

            And the Sky City cheque ?

            This was the cheque which revealed Banks lies in his donation declaration, KDC only piped up after this was made public

      • Chris 7.1.2
        19 May 2015 at 1:10 pm

        Given the state of our current Court of Appeal it’s not surprising at all.

      • the pigman 7.1.3
        19 May 2015 at 6:45 pm

        Oh Dave, still the same old wingnut.

        Never afraid to let facts get in the way. The Court of Appeal is not New Zealand’s ultimate court of law. That would be the Supreme Court.

        Now bye bye, ta ta, I’d go back to another alias while the going is good, commenters who persistently attempt to mislead and derail tend to be amenable to the ban hammer.

    • Andrew 7.2
      19 May 2015 at 2:41 pm

      How ironic your surname is Penny!

      It beats me how the Left tethered their entire election campaign on this obviously dodgy foreigner with previous convictions, expulsions from other countries and running an internet scam which was bound to come unstuck.

      You are judged by the friends you keep… and in this instance the electorate did the judging.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 7.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 2:52 pm

        So tethered, in fact, that Kelvin Davis won TTT.

        No, wait, this just in: your feeble pretence that the Mana party is the entire Labour movement marks you as bewildered or mendacious.

        Which is it?

      • Tracey 7.2.2
        19 May 2015 at 6:05 pm

        now you are just being silly. like someone who claims they have the nouse to run a city but signs declarations without reading them. takes large ED fees to run a finance company but knows nothing of the finances.

      • In Vino 7.2.3
        19 May 2015 at 6:51 pm

        Well Andrew, please let us know if Andrew is your forename or surname. I think you will find that Penny’s surname is Bright. And please stop exaggerating. It is most unconvincing. ‘Their entire election campaign’ ??

    • Cancerman 7.3
      19 May 2015 at 3:47 pm

      If I remember correctly you were in breach of electoral law by advertising on the day. I believe I saw your posters up long past the allowed date.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 7.3.1
        19 May 2015 at 3:52 pm

        Opportunity missed to lay a complaint if you ask me. Ms. Bright’s flailing scattershot accusations of corruption would make it well deserved.

    • pat 7.4
      20 May 2015 at 10:12 pm

      I agree with you Penny, the mere fact that 2 cheques for $25 grand each,
      shows there must have been a conversation,requesting two cheques of $25,
      grand each. Justice has not been served here.

  8. Redball 8
    19 May 2015 at 12:39 pm

    The judgment makes for a very interesting read. KDC claims that there were two meals BUT accepts that Banks may not even have been present when the cheques were written out. The two lunch theory has already been dis-proven by many people. I think that there are so many variations to his story that perjury must be on the cards.

    • Ron 8.1
      20 May 2015 at 10:23 am

      If you are suggesting that people should be prosecuted for having a faulty memory then can we start with the Prime Minister he sure does have a strange memory

      perjury must be on the cards.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 8.2
      20 May 2015 at 10:30 am

      What is not in dispute is that the candidate, by his own sworn statements, was present when the donations were discussed, despite his public denials.

      He then went on to pretend that the donations were anonymous. That’s why he was found guilty.

      Scrape him off your shoe before you come inside, please.

  9. Mr Nobody 9
    19 May 2015 at 12:40 pm

    How exactly has Banks been disgraced?

    Its seems quite the opposite now that his name has been cleared.

    • te reo putake 9.1
      19 May 2015 at 12:52 pm

      He was disgraced by his own behaviour in taking two cheques, then further by trying to bluster/forget his way out of the situation. He may now be cleared of criminality, but his actions at the time were still disgraceful. Being charged at all is disgraceful, as is being convicted. Being forced to quit Parliament is disgraceful. He was also an ACT MP, which may actually be the most disgraceful thing of all.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 9.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 3:54 pm

        None of those things are as disgraceful as his vile right wing hate speech.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 9.2
      19 May 2015 at 12:54 pm

      Mr. Banks does not dispute the conversation about donations occurred. I’m sure you will find some way to justify that to yourself.

    • dukeofurl 9.3
      19 May 2015 at 1:21 pm

      Dont forget the Sky City cheque.

  10. TheContrarian 10
    19 May 2015 at 12:42 pm

    John Banks is a moron and completely inept. That said – looks like in this instance he may have actually been in the clear. And so sayth the law.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 10.1
      19 May 2015 at 12:52 pm

      “In the clear” made me think of Jimmy Carter.

      …I’ve read parts of the embarrassing transcripts, and I have seen the proud statement of a former attorney general, who protected his boss, and now brags on the fact that he tiptoed through a mine field and came out quote clean unquote. You know, I — I can’t — I can’t imagine somebody like Thomas Jefferson tiptoeing through a mine field on the technicalities of the law, and then bragging about being clean afterwards.

    • Tracey 10.2
      19 May 2015 at 6:07 pm

      yup. but moronic and inept arent qualities i will vote for…

      btw the MP for Epsom sent out his newsletter yesterday. It seems no one told Goldsmith that ACT holds the seat… what a strange bunch these people are.

      • felix 10.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 7:03 pm

        Is Goldsmith representing himself in print as “MP for Epsom”?

        Is he using a parliamentary crest?

        • Tracey 10.2.1.1
          20 May 2015 at 3:12 pm

          no. cleverer than that. i will scan it and upload it…. but the inference is clear. he is very excited cos his street just got ultra fast broadbank.

    • lprent 10.3
      20 May 2015 at 1:41 am

      Nope. What he did was unlawful. He signed a form saying that several donations were anonymous when he damn well knew where they came from.

      However there is some dispute all the way from the police investigation to the court of appeal about if he performed the unlawful act of signing the form knowingly. That is the difference between not being charged and taken to court because of the timeouts and being being taken to court for a different offence.

      Either way he was certainly guilt of one of the offences, and admitted guilt to the lesser.

  11. b waghorn 11
    19 May 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Just proves that if you’re rich enough to keep going to court at some stage you’ll get a judge that sides with you.

    • Enough is Enough 11.1
      19 May 2015 at 1:46 pm

      Lets see how far Kim Dotcom get with that theory….

      • DoublePlusGood 11.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 2:07 pm

        Ah, but USA has infinite money and power and influence, so they win.

      • Ron 11.1.2
        20 May 2015 at 10:27 am

        …and Dotcom does not have his money it is being kept by the Crown until such time as it can be handed over to Warner Bros

  12. Differentview 12
    19 May 2015 at 1:06 pm

    Not worth my time to research the details, but didn’t the very same judicial body that quashed Banks’ conviction also say in the very same document that there *should* be a retrial?

    How nice it must be to have the power to shout out the one part you like and make headlines read as you want, and also forget the other!

    Next, the PR people who help run our lives will be dissecting out single words to delete from official statements instead of whole sentences. We can even predict they’ll be words like ‘not’, that can reverse original intent.

    • dukeofurl 12.1
      19 May 2015 at 1:25 pm

      Its bizzare, the Court of Appeal has allowed affadavits from two Americans to overide the normal process of a retrial.

      Normally they would have to be in the witness box so their ‘memory’ can be tested.

      Remember in all of this , ‘nothing to hide’ John Archibald Banks has never testified from the witness box.

      It wasnt just Kim Dotcom in the witness box to verify his story, there was his wife, his security guard and another person who banked the two deposits.

      • repateet 12.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 1:49 pm

        John Banks could not testify. Not for any nefarious reason of course. His memory could not be put to the test simply because he does not have one.

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 2:00 pm

          Its bizzare, the Court of Appeal has allowed affadavits from two Americans to overide the normal process of a retrial.

          No. It was the fact that the prosecution misled the Court.

          [25] …We hold rather that the Crown could not both withhold the memorandum and resist the appeal in the manner that it did. The effect was to mislead the Court.

          • Tracey 12.1.1.1.1
            19 May 2015 at 6:10 pm

            yup. the prosecution misled the court. dotcom changed his affidavit when prompted by new evidence. contrary to what are suggesting i dont think that will give rise to perjury. the right will spin this to

            banksie is honest
            dotcom is a liar

            when the prosecution… representing the crown msled the court… not mt dotcom per se.

        • dukeofurl 12.1.1.2
          19 May 2015 at 2:02 pm

          Lats time he was in High Court as a witness , back in 2003, the Justice Venning found Banks was untruthful then too !

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3250543

          The Judge said Banks sworn affidavit did not match his testimony in court.

          ie Liar liar.

          “”The statements about the fraudulently altered documents, the falsified reports, the secret bank accounts” were shown to be wrong, Justice Venning said.”

          And why would Banks make all these false allegations ?

          “He told the court last December: “The prospect that he [Mr Banks] would lose his executive salary and his car allowance enraged him.”

          That was the $39,000 annual lease on his Bentley Arnage

          MONEY ! When it comes to money , Banks will lie all the way

      • seeker 12.1.2
        19 May 2015 at 11:23 pm

        duke of url

        “It wasn’t just Kim Dotcom in the witness box ……there was his wife, his security guard and another person who banked his deposits.”

        – or as Andrew Geddis so churlishly puts it in his latest post on Pundit “his cronies.” For crying out loud Andrew …… “cronies”!?…definitely showing bias.

        cannot link as on a borrowed tablet, but Andrew’s Pundit post,”If you want people to believe you are honest then it’s best not to….” is on the sidebars of this Standard page (47 mins. ago)

  13. saveNZ 13
    19 May 2015 at 1:50 pm

    John Banks is guilty.

    Probably pretty hard to fight another trial when the government has seized the assets of Dot Com. I don’t know how you can be acquitted without a trial? New rules?

    There is no justice in this country. Look at Judith Collins also acquitted under extremely limited scope of investigation.

    The right need John Banks acquitted to keep selling off Auckland councils assets if he gets in as Mayor.

    How to make sure you get to sell off Auckland? You run two candidates who believe in the same thing.

    But at least Phil Goff is more honest.

  14. tinfoilhat 14
    19 May 2015 at 2:23 pm

    So Banks has been acquitted.

    Hopefully what this episode has served to do is make all politicians far more vigilant and careful about their fund raising and recording of the same.

    I still believe we should have mandatory disclosure of all donations above $1000 in any electoral cycle.

    • dukeofurl 14.1
      19 May 2015 at 3:08 pm

      Has occurred all ready, notice virtually all nationals candidate donations are listed as party HQ ?

      Its a way of covering their arses over who donated the money , as in most cases the MP knows who the money came from

    • Tracey 14.2
      19 May 2015 at 6:12 pm

      i wld imagine they think they are more untouchable now

  15. SHG 15
    19 May 2015 at 2:36 pm

    John Banks is guilty.

    He is in fact the complete opposite of guilty. He has been found to be not guilty.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 15.1
      19 May 2015 at 2:39 pm

      Keep telling yourself that. His defence was that the conversation about donations was held in another room.

      Read the judgement.

      • SHG 15.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 2:58 pm

        Are you unclear on what the word “acquitted” means?

        • te reo putake 15.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 3:02 pm

          It’s not the same as ‘not guilty’. Ask OJ Simpson.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 15.1.1.2
          19 May 2015 at 3:04 pm

          Are you unclear on what the word ‘technicality’ means?

          How about “error of process”?

          How about “Mr Banks and Mr Dotcom had held a private and quite different discussion about donations in a conservatory or loggia off the dining room.”

          • SHG 15.1.1.2.1
            19 May 2015 at 3:42 pm

            He has been acquitted and is thus innocent of the crime of electoral fraud. Throw as many toys out of your cot as you like, nothing can change the fact that he is not guilty.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 15.1.1.2.1.1
              19 May 2015 at 3:50 pm

              No toys thrown here: just simply and calmly laying out the facts according to John Banks: he discussed the donations with Kim Dotcom then signed them off as anonymous, and you don’t have a problem with that.

              • SHG …
                19 May 2015 at 4:00 pm

                Oh, I think the whole election-campaign-donation system is rotten. Banks’s cheques, Cunliffe’s secret trust, all of it. But Banks has been found not guilty of electoral fraud. The End.

                • One Anonymous Bloke …
                  19 May 2015 at 4:13 pm

                  “Charity” golf games, Cabinet Club.

                  You’re absolutely right: get money out of politics, and vote accordingly.

    • dukeofurl 15.2
      19 May 2015 at 9:23 pm

      The court ordered a retrial, they then recalled that judgement and stopped the retrial for technical reasons.

      No one . No where has there been a verdict of not guilty.

      A verdict has a specific meaning.

      The CoA has got itself into a lot of trouble over this ruling. Misleading the court by the prosecution can now be grounds for voiding the verdict.

  16. Paul Campbell 16
    19 May 2015 at 2:52 pm

    So when I write a cheque it has my name on it, did Banks somehow come down with some sort of magical blindness where you can only read the value of a cheque but not the rest of it? Or was it simple willful ignorance.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 16.1
      19 May 2015 at 2:53 pm

      As the Court of Appeal makes clear, Banks’ defence was that he discussed the donations in the other room, not at the dinner table. (Paragraph 13)

      • Paul Campbell 16.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 3:19 pm

        Whether or not the colluded to have two cheques is not the point here if you get a cheque with someone’s name on it and you claim it is “anonymous” you are telling a lie

        • One Anonymous Bloke 16.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 3:26 pm

          Prosecution: You discussed the donations at the dinner table!
          Defence: That’s a damn lie! We went to another room first!

          😀

        • chwaga 16.1.1.2
          19 May 2015 at 8:28 pm

          He did not get the cheques. They were made out and banked by the accountant and put into the election fund. Last time I looked at my bank statement it did not say who the banked cheque came from. So only his campaign manager saw the bank statements.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 16.1.1.2.1
            20 May 2015 at 8:26 am

            That must be why he was found guilty then let off on a procedural technicality, eh.

    • Colville. 16.2
      19 May 2015 at 4:32 pm

      Incredible isnt it?
      You can have your name on the cheque and yet it is anonymous.

      Which is why Len Brown used a blind trust to launder his donations. So he could shake hands, take the bribes and the only donation he disclosed was from his blind trust.

      Oh and that is what David Cunliffe did too for the leadership contest for the Labour party.

      But in both cases it was totally legal.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 16.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 4:35 pm

        If you say so.

        In Banks’ case, by his own testimony, he solicited the donation personally, then pretended the source was anonymous. Then he got off on a technicality.

        The obvious solution to these examples and Cabinet Club is to get money out of politics.

        • Colville. 16.2.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 5:04 pm

          Yip just the same as Len Brown and David Cunliffe did. The same as every politician does.

          Money isnt a problem at all, it just needs to be disclosed. Every cent of it and instantly upon receipt.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 16.2.1.1.1
            19 May 2015 at 5:07 pm

            Keep telling yourself that.

          • Paul Campbell 16.2.1.1.2
            19 May 2015 at 7:17 pm

            While I agree every dollar should be disclosed – and promptly, I do think money is a problem.

            I think of politics as a “marketplace of ideas” – an idea shouldn’t be better or worse just because it has more money behind it, that just corrupts the basic underlying fabric of the forum where you’re trying to determine the fitness of ideas.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 16.2.1.1.2.1
              19 May 2015 at 7:20 pm

              How do you disclose dollars that are delivered in the form of lucrative business opportunities after you’ve left office, as per the current National Party procedure for bribery?

              • Paul Campbell …
                19 May 2015 at 10:36 pm

                you make it illegal and expose those who do it – make it a legal requirement for those who receive ministerial warrants that they not work within the sectors they regulate for 10 years after leaving parliament – you get paid well for being a minister and get a goodly sum when you leave it shouldn’t be any great hardship to live on a minister’s pension.

                Just because there’s one loophole is not a reason to close all the others

                • Colonial Rawshark …
                  19 May 2015 at 11:10 pm

                  Nah the intent is good but it would never work in practice. So a 60 year old lawyer who is Minister of Justice can’t work for a law firm ever again? So a 60 year old doctor who is Minister of Health can’t work for a hospital ever again?

                  • te reo putake …
                    19 May 2015 at 11:17 pm

                    Ten years is a bit long. In the UK, there is a stand down, but I think it only applies in certain ministries and only for a couple of years. Defence is one of them, as I recall. But as most ascendant MP’s have second jobs as consultants or non exec board members in the industries they eventually have ministerial control over, the whole thing is a charade.

  17. McFlock 17
    19 May 2015 at 2:55 pm

    So the crown prosecutors who didn’t want to take the case in the first place (until McCready demonstrated they were incompetent in making that decision) withheld evidence and thereby scuppered the case.

    So – who gets fired?

    • Colonial Rawshark 17.1
      19 May 2015 at 3:30 pm

      More like who gets promoted.

    • Tracey 17.2
      19 May 2015 at 6:17 pm

      went thru my mind too mcflock… no one will get fired if it were a plan. disbarred if true. but wont be struck off… perhaps they didnt read the documents when they declared to follow rules on admittance to the bar, so are not bound by them

      • McFlock 17.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 9:19 pm

        disbarred?
        Sure they won’t call a “brain fade” and promise that they’re weally weally sorry about the temp who no longer works there and just get a slap on the hand?

  18. Puckish Rogue 18
    19 May 2015 at 4:00 pm

    Well it took long enough but the correct decision has been made, its a shame his reputation had to suffer as much as it did but now at last he can move on with his life

    • One Anonymous Bloke 18.1
      19 May 2015 at 4:15 pm

      You’re partly right: getting off on a technicality would tarnish a good reputation.

      • Puckish Rogue 18.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 4:22 pm

        John Banks was aquitted so his reputation is restored and the left were shown to be, again, hopelessly naive when it comes to John Key

        I mean did the left really think you could trust someone like Dot Con? Of course you did…

        • One Anonymous Bloke 18.1.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 4:27 pm

          John Banks’ defence was that he didn’t discuss the donations at the dinner table. It happened in another room. He got off on a technicality, and you are pretending his reputation hasn’t suffered.

          Not sure why, unless you’re trying to provide supporting evidence for the notion that right wingers are stupid and unethical.

        • repateet 18.1.1.2
          19 May 2015 at 5:26 pm

          His reputation hasn’t changed. To repeat this: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3250543

          “Outlining Mr Banks’ evidence, and his change of heart regarding the Cooks, Justice Venning said the mayor’s sworn affidavit did not match up with his subsequent testimony in court.”

          His reputation in our house is that of a liar and charlatan. Now he’s jumping up and down crying as if his purity has been wrongly impugned. He expects his arrogance to be harnessed to ignorance. He is right.

          • Colonial Rawshark 18.1.1.2.1
            19 May 2015 at 6:09 pm

            Puckish Rogue sets much lower standards for “reputation”, I must say.

        • Tracey 18.1.1.3
          19 May 2015 at 6:18 pm

          i dont think you understand who prosecuted banks cos it wasnt the left.

    • Hateatea 18.2
      19 May 2015 at 4:20 pm

      What reputation? Surely you jest! As long as moving on with his life keeps him out of politics, he can move anywhere he likes. In fact, when the other ‘Honest John’ leaves for Hawai’i, this one should go and live in the house next door so they can endlessly re-hash old times without any need for the rest of us to be burdened by their blether.

      • Puckish Rogue 18.2.1
        19 May 2015 at 4:24 pm

        Don’t worry Sir John Key will leave after he wins the 2017 election so maybe around 2018, early 2019

        • McFlock 18.2.1.1
          19 May 2015 at 5:26 pm

          you reckon ol’ tugger will last that long, eh.

          The scraping sound from caucus ain’t shears being sharpened, it’s “daggers, back, for insertion into”.

      • seeker 18.2.2
        19 May 2015 at 11:00 pm

        Hateatea it may be difficult for them to ‘rehash old times’ as both frequently admit to having no recall whatsoever of events or conversations they have taken part in.

  19. North 19
    19 May 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Whatever whatever…….Banks was fetid, indeed very stinky long before all this business. No one’s fooled. Not even those whose political senses are uplifted more or less by this result. I mean like no other party ACT has form in embracing the dodgy ones, even when they know beforehand. Bugger all morals you see.

  20. millsy 20
    19 May 2015 at 5:11 pm

    That John Banks thinks that animals are more important than children in poverty, and his desire to slash wages to zero and close down anything that is publicly owned makes him an evil person.

    • North 20.1
      19 May 2015 at 6:07 pm

      And while the right wing weeps about the ‘injustice’ Banks has suffered how many of them really, really, even now, give a toss about that little ‘underclass’ fulla Teina Pora ? Or his family ? His world was smashed apart at 17 years of age.

      I’m not talking about the principled example of the right wing type. There are some. I’m talking about the enablers of the likes of Banks, the wannabee bastards whose moral entirety is directed by questions of money, power and status. And their own pathetic ‘asprayshuns’ to the same. Tough for you Banks. It wasn’t 20 years in the slammer was it dear ? Moaning scum !

  21. Nick K 21
    19 May 2015 at 6:37 pm

    Disgraced former National MP, ACT leader and Auckland Mayor John Banks…

    Why is he disgraced?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 21.1
      19 May 2015 at 6:39 pm

      Because his ‘defence’ was ‘I didn’t solicit bribes at the dinner table: I solicited them in the other room.’

  22. North 22
    19 May 2015 at 8:13 pm

    Banks ……you’re raving on in the Herald about the “lonely place” you’ve been in. Tough. It wasn’t the slammer ! Grande Dame Michelle Boag stood by you didn’t she ?

    This shit happens to truly innocent poor people all over New Zealand every day at the hands of ‘The Law’ and pricks like you. Entitled, snivelling little germ you are. In the small picture ‘The Law’ says you’re acquitted. I’ll buy that. On principle I have to. You are not to be subject to criminal penalty. Still, it’s a tunnelled, convenient, ‘master-of-the-universe temeritously challenged’ view. The big picture……no one’s fooled Banks. Morally crook as, you !

    Careful, as you busily rush off to “my QC” to whinge about compensation……careful you don’t trip over the art-form calumny you’ve heaped on countless others for decades – the cheap and nasty little talkback shows, the vile carry on in parliament.

    I reserve my sympathy for Arthur Thomas, Dougherty, Teina Pora. The list’s by no means exhaustive.

    • marty mars 22.1
      19 May 2015 at 8:27 pm

      + 1 We will now be subject to inundation of bankys droop dog look endearing sympathy.

      • dukeofurl 22.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 9:06 pm

        hes looking for ‘compensation’ for the pain and suffering his family has been through.

        I suppose that will come up against the test’ Did he do it’

  23. Reddelusion 23
    19 May 2015 at 8:49 pm

    What a ( rymthes with tanker)? You are North, typical sanctimonious left git who thinks they have a mortgage on caring and what’s right thank god the average joe and those you (in your little delusional Kingdom) supposly represent don’t drink your kool aid

    • Weepus beard 23.1
      19 May 2015 at 9:48 pm

      The socially conscious left do have a mortgage on caring. That is the definition of socially conscious.

      • Colonial Rawshark 23.1.1
        19 May 2015 at 11:33 pm

        Reddelusion seems to have a lot of caring for John Banks. Yeeuch.

  24. ianmac 24
    19 May 2015 at 11:25 pm

    On the TV3 Late news they flashed a statement from Kim Dotcom.
    They didn’t read it but it seemed to be a set of short sentences.
    eg Banks was offered $50,000
    The cheques were made out as 2 amounts of $25,000
    plus another 9-10 lines. (They just flashed it onscreen.)

    “A technicality gets him off,” Mr Dotcom tweeted today. “One law for them, one law for us.

    “A great day for John Banks, a bad day for justice.”

    Read more: http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/kim-dotcom-a-bad-day-for-justice-2015051921#ixzz3aaByaGER

  25. Facetious 25
    20 May 2015 at 6:02 am

    The price to pay for relying on the words of KDC, the man who bought Harre, Corkery, Minto and Harawhira. Never mind.

    Thank God for Kelvin Davis.

    • vto 25.1
      20 May 2015 at 7:47 am

      I believe dotcom over key, Obama, five eyes, john banks et al every day of the week.

      You should try assessing facts instead of running on simplistic assumption and knee jerks

      • Halfcrown 25.1.1
        20 May 2015 at 8:34 am

        “You should try assessing facts instead of running on simplistic assumption and knee jerks”

        I could not have said it better.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 25.2
      20 May 2015 at 8:20 am

      We don’t have to rely on KDC to know Banks discussed donations with him, because that was Banks’ defence in court.

      • Nick K 25.2.1
        20 May 2015 at 8:58 am

        Banks didn’t have a “defence”.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 25.2.1.1
          20 May 2015 at 9:06 am

          Her evidence supported the defence case, which was that Mr Banks and Mr Dotcom had held a private and quite different discussion about donations in a conservatory or loggia off the dining room.

          The judgement of the Court of Appeal.

          Found guilty and convicted, then let off on a procedural technicality (the CoA described it as a “process error”).

          I note that you are running your mouth without having read the judgement.

  26. Nick K 26
    20 May 2015 at 9:33 am

    The defence case was that KDC and his henchmen were liars. That’s not a defence. The defence case could be that Banks was insane, and that would be a defence. But saying someone else is lying is not a defence.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 26.1
      20 May 2015 at 10:03 am

      “John Banks to 3News, 27th April 2012: “Well I met with them, I know them, but I can’t recall discussing money with them.”

      John Banks’ defence in court: “Mr Banks and Mr Dotcom had held a private and quite different discussion about donations in a conservatory or loggia off the dining room.”

      Your candidate for mayor of Auckland. Will you wipe him off your shoe or tread him all over the carpet?

      • Nick K 26.1.1
        20 May 2015 at 10:48 am

        Neither. I’ve stood by him through all of this and will continue to do so. It’s called loyalty to your friends. Ever heard of it?

        • One Anonymous Bloke 26.1.1.1
          20 May 2015 at 10:51 am

          Turning a blind eye while your friend signs a false election return isn’t the act of a good friend, sweety.

  27. Nick K 27
    20 May 2015 at 11:38 am

    Is that what you said to Helen Clark when she stood up for and backed Taito Philip Field?

    • One Anonymous Bloke 27.1
      20 May 2015 at 5:04 pm

      As a Green voter I find the question risible, not to mention that HC stood TPF down etc etc.

  28. North 28
    20 May 2015 at 11:47 am

    Through thick and thin what, Nick K(in) ? How noble of you ! You are correct about one thing though……the weirdly shrill Woody Allen replicant had no defence…..a disclosure based Crown cock-up he did have but no defence. That’s it. Enjoy the vicarious martyrdom, idiot.

  29. reason 29
    20 May 2015 at 4:48 pm

    john banks is as innocent as the roastbusters ……………… well maybe a tad less innocent as they never even made it to court.

    Its a great judgement for bringing the legal system into further disrepute.

    It’s also good for showing the ‘standards’ that we are being governed by ……

    Sure is a brighter future for some ……………..

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  • New Zealand has never been closed for business
    1. What was The Curse of Jim Bolger?a. Winston Peters b. Soon after shaking his hand, world leaders would mysteriously lose office or shuffle off this mortal coilc. Could never shake off the Mother of All Budgetsd. Dandruff2. True or false? The Chairman of a Kiwi export business has asked the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 hours ago

  • Stop the panic – we’ve been here before
    Jack Vowles writes – New Zealand is said to be suffering from ‘serious populist discontent’. An IPSOS MORI survey has reported that we have an increasing preference for strong leaders, think that the economy is rigged toward the rich and powerful, and political elites are ignoring ‘hard-working people’.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 hours ago

  • Melissa Lee and the media: ending the quest
    Chris Trotter writes –  MELISSA LEE should be deprived of her ministerial warrant. Her handling – or non-handling – of the crisis engulfing the New Zealand news media has been woeful. The fate of New Zealand’s two linear television networks, a question which the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    6 hours ago

  • The Hoon around the week to April 19
    TL;DR: The podcast above features co-hosts and , along with regular guests Robert Patman on Gaza and AUKUS II, and on climate change.The six things that mattered in Aotearoa’s political economy that we wrote and spoke about via The Kākā and elsewhere for paying subscribers in the ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 hours ago

  • The ‘Humpty Dumpty’ end result of dismantling our environmental protections
    Policymakers rarely wish to make plain or visible their desire to dismantle environmental policy, least of all to the young. Photo: Lynn GrievesonTL;DR: Here’s the top five news items of note in climate news for Aotearoa-NZ this week, and a discussion above between Bernard Hickey and The Kākā’s climate correspondent ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    7 hours ago

  • Nicola's Salad Days.
    I like to keep an eye on what’s happening in places like the UK, the US, and over the ditch with our good mates the Aussies. Let’s call them AUKUS, for want of a better collective term. More on that in a bit.It used to be, not long ago, that ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    7 hours ago

  • Study sees climate change baking in 19% lower global income by 2050
    TL;DR: The global economy will be one fifth smaller than it would have otherwise been in 2050 as a result of climate damage, according to a new study by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and published in the journal Nature. (See more detail and analysis below, and ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    8 hours ago

  • Weekly Roundup 19-April-2024
    It’s Friday again. Here’s some of the things that caught our attention this week. This Week on Greater Auckland On Tuesday Matt covered at the government looking into a long tunnel for Wellington. On Wednesday we ran a post from Oscar Simms on some lessons from Texas. AT’s ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    9 hours ago

  • Jack Vowles: Stop the panic – we’ve been here before
    New Zealand is said to be suffering from ‘serious populist discontent’. An IPSOS MORI survey has reported that we have an increasing preference for strong leaders, think that the economy is rigged toward the rich and powerful, and political elites are ignoring ‘hard-working people’.  The data is from February this ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    10 hours ago

  • Clearing up confusion (or trying to)
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters is understood to be planning a major speech within the next fortnight to clear up the confusion over whether or not New Zealand might join the AUKUS submarine project. So far, there have been conflicting signals from the Government. RNZ reported the Prime Minister yesterday in ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    12 hours ago

  • How to Retrieve Deleted Call Log iPhone Without Computer
    How to Retrieve Deleted Call Log on iPhone Without a Computer: A Step–by–Step Guide Losing your iPhone call history can be frustrating, especially when you need to find a specific number or recall an important conversation. But before you panic, know that there are ways to retrieve deleted call logs on your iPhone, even without a computer. This guide will explore various methods, ranging from simple checks to utilizing iCloud backups and third–party applications. So, let‘s dive in and recover those lost calls! 1. Check Recently Deleted Folder: Apple understands that accidental deletions happen. That‘s why they introduced the “Recently Deleted“ folder for various apps, including the Phone app. This folder acts as a safety net, storing deleted call logs for up to 30 days before permanently erasing them. Here‘s how to check it: Open the Phone app on your iPhone. Tap on the “Recents“ tab at the bottom. Scroll to the top and tap on “Edit“. Select “Show Recently Deleted“. Browse the list to find the call logs you want to recover. Tap on the desired call log and choose “Recover“ to restore it to your call history. 2. Restore from iCloud Backup: If you regularly back up your iPhone to iCloud, you might be able to retrieve your deleted call log from a previous backup. However, keep in mind that this process will restore your entire phone to the state it was in at the time of the backup, potentially erasing any data added since then. Here‘s how to restore from an iCloud backup: Go to Settings > General > Reset. Choose “Erase All Content and Settings“. Follow the on–screen instructions. Your iPhone will restart and show the initial setup screen. Choose “Restore from iCloud Backup“ during the setup process. Select the relevant backup that contains your deleted call log. Wait for the restoration process to complete. 3. Explore Third–Party Apps (with Caution): ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    13 hours ago

  • How to Factory Reset iPhone without Computer: A Comprehensive Guide to Restoring your Device
    Life throws curveballs, and sometimes, those curveballs necessitate wiping your iPhone clean and starting anew. Whether you’re facing persistent software glitches, preparing to sell your device, or simply wanting a fresh start, knowing how to factory reset iPhone without a computer is a valuable skill. While using a computer with ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    20 hours ago

  • How to Call Someone on a Computer: A Guide to Voice and Video Communication in the Digital Age
    Gone are the days when communication was limited to landline phones and physical proximity. Today, computers have become powerful tools for connecting with people across the globe through voice and video calls. But with a plethora of applications and methods available, how to call someone on a computer might seem ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    21 hours ago

  • Skeptical Science New Research for Week #16 2024
    Open access notables Glacial isostatic adjustment reduces past and future Arctic subsea permafrost, Creel et al., Nature Communications: Sea-level rise submerges terrestrial permafrost in the Arctic, turning it into subsea permafrost. Subsea permafrost underlies ~ 1.8 million km2 of Arctic continental shelf, with thicknesses in places exceeding 700 m. Sea-level variations over glacial-interglacial cycles control ...
    Skeptical Science
    21 hours ago

  • Where on a Computer is the Operating System Generally Stored? Delving into the Digital Home of your ...
    The operating system (OS) is the heart and soul of a computer, orchestrating every action and interaction between hardware and software. But have you ever wondered where on a computer is the operating system generally stored? The answer lies in the intricate dance between hardware and software components, particularly within ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    21 hours ago

  • How Many Watts Does a Laptop Use? Understanding Power Consumption and Efficiency
    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    21 hours ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    22 hours ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    22 hours ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    22 hours ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    23 hours ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    24 hours ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    24 hours ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
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