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Key and McClay sorting out their lines

Written By: - Date published: 9:12 am, May 4th, 2016 - 16 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, corruption, john key - Tags: , , , , ,

The wheels of coverup spin right out in the open these days.

Yesterday Key had to feed McClay his lines – Tracy Watkins: Brain fade embarrassment averted

When McClay was door-stopped on Tuesday over whether he knew Whitney worked for Key at the time the lawyer contacted him about a review of New Zealand’s trust laws, the minister was difficult to pin down.

After a circuitous route around the question of whether McClay did or didn’t know Whitney was Key’s lawyer, the minister eventually offered up that he probably didn’t know but couldn’t remember for sure. For more than 16 minutes McClay veered between being almost certain he didn’t know to being somewhat unsure because it was a long time ago.

Not having had his instructions on what to say, McClay was trying to say nothing. The concept of just telling the truth probably never occured to him. He must have been relieved when he got his lines soon after –

It was only half an hour later that Key fronted up to media and categorically and unequivocally confirmed that he was quite explicit in his conversation with McClay that Whitney was his lawyer.

Pretty good memory for Key, who usually can’t recall what he said 5 minutes ago. He must know that evidence exists, and could come out. But you can still see McClay’s evasions in other coverage yesterday. Compare the now deleted Minister didn’t know who PM’s lawyer was and the revised I told McClay about lawyer, says Key.

Key has changed his own tune too. When this story broke he said he just referred Whitney to McClay

There’s nothing unusual about it. People ask me about particular issues. I don’t live in a vacuum. I do what is absolutely the correct thing to do, which is send them off to the minister. There’s nothing I wouldn’t have done on a million of other occasions which was to direct them to the minister and let the ministers get on to do their work.

I said to go and see the minister. After that I never had any involvement.

But now it turns that he did have further involvement, he told McClay that his lawyer would be in touch. Does he set up those connections for his “million” other casual conversations too? Of course he doesn’t.

16 comments on “Key and McClay sorting out their lines ”

  1. Kevin 1

    Once again, Key’s first instinct is ALWAYS to lie.

    He can’t help himself. Lying to him is like breathing to the rest of us.

    • mary_a 1.1

      @ Kevin (1) … yep, FJK in typical dodgy mode. If you are caught out, first lie, lie again and then lie some more. He can’t help himself! Truth doesn’t exist in FJK’s slippery, murky world. His lies will bury him.

      Karma is on its way!

  2. Mosa 2

    As usual its all Labours fault eh!
    Its as ridiculous as his claim that he plays it straight..

  3. North 3

    A very unimpressive man and certainly committed to forces beyond NZ’s shores. Just underlines that he’s always been the beneficiary of the MSM’s self-interested, advised, pulling of punches. The gloss painted on the turd is wearing thin.

  4. Lanthanide 4

    No one in the media has yet to ask if it’s normal procedure for a minister to make a visit to the office of the contact.

    I would have thought it would be more normal for the contact to visit the minister’s office? Guess it depends in they’re both in Wellington or not.

    • ianmac 4.1

      I think that they could answer that with “We are very accessible and meet constituents every where.” Probably not so for formal meetings but deniable.

    • Nick Morris 5.1

      And why shouldn’t that Trust-enabling-former- lawyer drop Key’s name, why shouldn’t Key give a heads up to his newly-appointed junior minister and why shouldn’t Todd McLay change his position on trusts, and why shouldn’t New Zealand be turned into the Jersey – or Bermuda – of the South and why shouldn’t they all be allowed to keep the whole thing secret?

      Nothing to see here….did I mention paintergate recently (that’s forgery!) and pledgecardgate (corruption!)

      Ah yes I remember it well….

  5. amirite 6

    Oh! The shit just keeps popping up to the surface…

    ‘John Key’s lawyer Ken Whitney was criticised by the High Court after creating a sham trust for a bankrupt property developer then failing to disclose it to authorities probing his client’s insolvency.’ – http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633406

  6. Frank Stark 7

    NZ Herald’s Matt Nippett reveals John Key’s “lawyer” Ken Whitney was criticised by a High Court judge for setting up a sham trust for a bankrupt property developer, then failing to disclose it to authorities probing his client’s insolvency.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11633406
    Among the gems in the case revealed by Nippett, Whitney was asked under cross-examination if he had concerns around setting up structures to allow a bankrupt to continue in business. “No, not particularly,” said Whitney. “It’s a common thing for people to do. It may not be morally as white as it could be but it’s normal practice.”

    This seems in stark contrast to Key’s comments that the conduct of his lawyer, who actually isn’t a lawyer, is “highly ethical”.

    In the August 2014 ruling, High Court Justice Ed Wylie noted Whitney repeatedly failed to disclose the sham trust nor did he volunteer that Las Vegas-based bankrupt Rod Neilsen and his wife had been appointed discretionary beneficiaries of that trust.

    Justice Wylie recorded some oddities around the signature. “Whitney purported to witness Nielsen’s signature. Whitney acknowledged in cross-examination that he was not present when Nielsen signed the document. Neilsen signed it in Las Vegas, and Whitney witnessed Nielsen’s signature when the document was later returned to New Zealand.
    The ruling records Mr Whitney, responding to what “in the presence of” meant in terms of witnessing signatures, saying he had “taken it to mean also if you know the person’s signature and you’ve discussed it with them and they acknowledge it then that’s fine”.
    Justice Wylie said of this explanation and behavior: “Again, this is far from satisfactory.”

    I wonder how long it is before Key decides his long time friend and “lawyer” is a liability?

  7. greywarshark 8

    The puppet in the image reminds me of an old kids tv program about a toy called Lamb Chop.
    Here is one where Lamb Chop and friends find a wallet. I wonder if this would be suitable viewing for politicians. I haven’t found out yet whether good Lamb Chop follows the rule and returns the wallet to its owner, or whether the naughty friends win the day.
    Tata I am just going to watch the story. Do you guess what the outcome is? Let’s watch together!
    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY8qeWdn6QU

    • Henry Filth 8.1

      If politicians are involved, then d’you think it might be a foregone conclusion?

    • greywarshark 8.2

      I was just thinking that this video Lamb Chop and the wallet should go on a list of values training videos for rich kids.

      They are the ones that are growing up to be criminals in the major areas of finance that lead to our economy living on borrowed money and borrowed time. But soon it will end = they will have purloined all our resources, and then they can drive their enslavement legislation even tighter.

      We will end up like the Yorkshireman determined to have the worst sob story about childhood – ‘We used to work 25 hours a day and when we got home our dad would murder us and dance on our graves singing hallelujah. Yes, tell that to the young people today and they’ll never believe you.”

      But something very like that has happened in the western world in WW2. So could do again, you’d better believe it.

  8. Anno1701 9

    “According to Justice Wylie: “Indeed, Whitney accepted in cross-examination that this was done to maintain secrecy as against all parties, including the Official Assignee.””

    doesn’t that make him an Accessory before the fact & practically an accomplice ?

  9. Neil 10

    When Whitney rung Key,
    Key would’ve known who he was speaking to straight away, Given that Whitney has been Key’s personal lawyer for 20 years(Oh that’s right Whitney is not a lawyer) & told Whitney exactly what it said in the email to McClay, that Whitney had contacted Key & Key had given Whitney the assurance that they had no plans of tightening up on the foreign trust laws & wanted a meeting.
    Then McClay would’ve freaked out being a noobee & shut down any IRD investigation into it to appease his master.
    It sticks out like a pimple on a 16 year old school boy on heat, that all this is rather plain to see, why do people prefer to keep their heads in the sand & ignore it?.
    Not only is Key up to less than desirable practices MSM are no where to be seen asking the hard questions until they get an answer.
    I tell you what if Labour were in charge of this, they would get crucified for it, not that they aren’t now for anything they say.

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