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Key on welfare

Written By: - Date published: 7:45 pm, December 13th, 2010 - 68 comments
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Interesting piece by Sue Bradford over at Pundit. If the quote attributed to John Key is for real, it’s a shocker. Bradford writes:

Divine intervention and the Key welfare agenda

Comments from the Prime Minister suggest that the government’s willingness to act tough on welfare may go a lot further than many expect

… How centrist John Key actually is on welfare is now very open to question.

When Anglican Bishop Muru Walters took part in a church leadership delegation to the Prime Minister in late November, he presented Mr Key with a copy of the first report from the Alternative Welfare Working Group: Welfare justice in New Zealand: what we heard.

The PM’s response to the gift of the report, as relayed by the Bishop in the foreword to the final Welfare Justice report launched last week, was, in total, “Is welfare sustainable? No!”

The second indication of what the PM might really be thinking comes from further feedback from the same meeting, picked up by myself on the Wellington grapevine last week.

Among other comments made to the church leaders that day, John Key is reported to have said, “If we cancelled welfare to 330,000 people currently on welfare, how many would starve to death? Bugger all.”

Bradford comments “I trust my sources”, but some intrepid reporter needs to follow up and see if this quote can be verified. If it can, it is a window into the PM’s thinking that needs to be made very very clear to the electorate in 2011.

68 comments on “Key on welfare ”

  1. Rodel 1

    Perhaps he meant, ” Bugger all of them?”

    • bbfloyd 1.1

      your point being? apart from meaningless addition to the sentence. which changes nothing, by the way.

  2. your brighter future, New Zealand

    • Tigger 2.1

      Meanwhile, he’s laying the pipe for cops getting guns. Maybe so they can better enforce the peace once Key and his lot start slashing and burning the rest of the benefit system, the education system, health, public service…

  3. millsy 3

    Disgusting, but not suprising. The guy is a nasty little creep behind that ‘aw shucks’ exterior.

    Some of the older hands go on about how a nasty pig Muldoon was. At least he grew up in the The Great Depression, and deep down, he knew that bowing to the Treasury’s (and his own party’s) demands for neo-liberalism would only lead to hardship and misery to those less fortunate.

    Unfortunately, Key is severely lacking in that sliver of a social concience.

    • Lanthanide 3.1

      Nah, he grew up in a state house. How did you manage to forget that? He knows all about what it’s like to be poor and such.

      • Colonial Viper 3.1.1

        Essentially he despises his own background and wants to leave it as far behind as is possible.

        Bet you he never ever talks to any of the mates he had at school – unless they are rich too.

  4. peterlepaysan 4

    Remember JK promised not to upset anyone in the first 3 year term.

    I always regarded that as a threat.

    A pogrom awaits us as JK and his Cossacks ride to victory after the next election.

    The National Party does the bidding of the banks. No! Not him, the other ones.

  5. mcflock 5

    I actually agree with Key, very few of them would “starve to death”.

    Many would turn to crime to steal food – ISTR that this is becoming an issue now (so, “sensible sentencing” being what it is, even more poor people would spend the majority of their adult lives in gaol).
    Many would commit suicide.
    Many would allow conditions to worsen without seeing a doctor (too pricey), so they end up in the emergency department with more serious and more debilitating conditions – maybe what could have been medicated needs to be amputated, or leads to organ failure.
    And the infant mortality rate among poor [brown] people would become even worse.
    And the overall life expectancy for poor people would go backwards – and it’s not so hot now.

    But very few people would actually die of starvation- I’m sure that the forex trader in him regards them as statistically insignificant.


  6. Andy (the other one) 6

    I have to say, I don’t think JK is that stupid to know that canceling that amount of benefits would actually crash the economy as we know it. How many landlords and supermarkets is he willing to sacrifice for his paymasters?

    He would take the middle class out with the stroke of a pen, middle class nz are the landlords of the nation. Unfortunately in my line of work welfare is so embedded in our economy it is unlikely anyone can call an end to it. At best grandfathering out over time would be a better way to reduce costs.

  7. Meanwhile profits are clearly unsustainable, which is why the bosses are on welfare.
    So who’s going to turf them out of power then?

  8. ok 8

    “The second indication of what the PM might really be thinking comes from further feedback from the same meeting, picked up by myself on the Wellington grapevine last week.”

    any actual quotes from what was said?

  9. Jeremy Harris 9

    $15,000,000,000 deficit to be announced tomorrow… $18,000,000,000 of benefit sending…

    JK’s plan to bring us back to surplus..?

    • bobo 9.1

      sounds like the kind of thing key would say , the scarey thing is if nats only plan on getting one more term and push through unreversable changes without worrying about staying popular.

    • Colonial Viper 9.2

      $9,100,000,000 given to the richest NZ’ers in tax cuts over the next 4 years.

      $1,770,000,000 given to Southern Canterbury Finance this year.

      • Jeremy Harris 9.2.1

        $9,100,000,000 retained by the richest NZ’ers in tax cuts over the next 4 years.

        $1,770,000,000 given to Southern Canterbury Finance this year.

        Fixed that for you there CV…

        • Colonial Viper

          Yeah thanks Jeremy

          I have to say, for one so concerned about our deficit you seem very sanguine about the richest NZ’ers “retaining” more of the monies which would close that very same deficit, and then making the poorest NZ’ers pay for it with cuts to social services and benefits.

          At least the richest 2% of the population get to upgrade from their V6 Jag to their V8, something the commoners can all be grateful for.

        • Jeremy Harris

          I’ve stated before many, many times CV that I thought any tax cuts should have been for all NZers equally by introducing a tax free threshold, if somewhat stupidly, cutting taxes when running large deficits was to be done…

          What I was pointing out is the erroneous mindset that is the idea that the government has money of it’s own, that it then either gifts to the lower, middle or upper socio economic groups…

          All the country’s wealth ultimately is generated as surplus in the private sector…

          • Draco T Bastard

            All the country’s wealth ultimately is generated as surplus in the private sector…

            Wrong. The countries wealth is it’s renewable resource base which belongs to everybody. Due to the vagaries of the capitalist ownership system and it’s propensity of taking the surplus from the workers we have far more of that wealth going to a few rather than to be equitably distributed. Progressive taxes try to fix this usurious practice but it doesn’t go far enough.

          • Jeremy Harris

            You really are a nutter, all taxes come from the profits of private businesses and our SOE’s, so no I’m not wrong…

            The matter of our planet doesn’t magically turn itself into food and useable products and service…

            After progressing from a subsistence farming economy this transformation requires, firstly land but also a systems of money and property ownership, then capital acquired through saving and increases in productivity, then risk of capital and finally labour… This process is the creation of wealth, matter that sits idle represents potential future wealth…

            All other systems tried have been the failures of loony left wing nut jobs, tyrants and dictators…

  10. If the quote attributed to John Key is for real, it’s a shocker.

    I’d venture to suggest that it’s a very big “If” ….

    • RedLogix 10.1

      I’m inclined to agree…. without some corroborating evidence I struggle to think Key would either say such a thing in any kind of meeting or forum, nor go anywhere near implementing such a policy. It simply could not be done.

      And in believing Key could be so foolish you are guilty of underestimating him. Whatever Key has in mind it will be much more indirect than this.

      • just saying 10.1.1

        RL I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Key has decided to eradicate welfare (outside super of course) this is just an indication of what he believes about welfare, and his complete lack of conscience or empathy. The benefit cuts and compliance measures that Key intends to introduce as one of his main election platforms will be brutal and it will be a material lesson to everyone about what will happen to anyone who doesn’t learn their place. I doubt it’s even about the money, we’ve seen how cavalier he can be about vast sums to the wealthy. I believe this is about dividing the working class and inciting hatred. The more fear and hatred he can whip up the better he will do at the polls.

        The more NZanders believe that it is the poor, the benes, the unions, school teachers etc. are the enemy, the more the more disempowered we are as a class and he is able to play on a kind of mass Stockholm syndrome in which we all fawn on and lick the boots of our real oppressors.

        I’m not expecting any significant opposition to his benefit policies. Labour will continue to dance to his tune, and announce slightly less vicious “reforms” to attempt to appeal to talkback land. They can’t seem to get their heads around the need to change the discourse rather than fitting themselves within the confines of the current one.

        It may too late to start communicating a new vision now to make a difference to the 2011 election, but Labour wont start to gain any real traction until it does IMO.

  11. maui 11

    More forex scams ..



    .. burgeoning in our part of the world.

  12. Jenny 12

    “If we cancelled welfare to 330,000 people currently on welfare, how many would starve to death? Bugger all.”

    And I wonder, Even if we put the top tax rate back up 90% as in the ’40s, how many of them would have to go out and get a job to pay the bills? Bugger all.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      Even if we put the top tax rate back up 90% as in the ’40s, how many of them would have to go out and get a job to pay the bills? Bugger all.

      United States, 1954-1963. Top income bracket was taxed at 91%. This income tax rate applied at around US$3M p.a. income, in today’s dollars. Quite generous really. Nothing you cannot afford on that much income.

      During these years the baby boomer generation was launched and a vast expansion of the US middle class occurred. US industry and technology powered ahead (strangely enough high income tax rates did not stop innovation in the economy). Ordinary workers could look forward to affording a new car of their own, a new TV of their own, etc.


      • Jeremy Harris 12.1.1

        You quote this all the time and it’s a red herring at best…

        Prey tell CV, exactly how much did federal government income as a percentage of GDP rise when these top tax rates were in effect..?

        Not at all…

        Well shock horror, you mean the most enterprising and productive in society spend a fortune on lawyers and accountants to keep their tax exposure the same..?


        There goes your theory that society will be fixed and equal only if we massively raise top tax rates, it is in fact a make work scheme for tax lawyer and accountants, many of them in the lower socio-economic group you “care” so much about..? If introduced to NZ many productive people will bugger off to Aussie, those that stay will employ an army of people to reduce their taxes…

        This is the same all over the world and why government expenditure reduction is the most pressing issue in the West…

        • Pascal's bookie

          That graph doesn’t prove what you claim. We would need to know what other taxation policies were in place. You seem to be using it to claim that changing the top income tax rate doesn’t change the amount of income tax people on that top rate pay. But for all we know that graph demonstrates that when you cut the top tax rate, the government collects more tax from the poor and middle class to make up the deficit, (perhaps through sales taxes or what have you).

          I also found this from the author:


          …which also makes some simplistic claims about the gloriousness of supply side jesus and GW Bush’s 03 tax cuts. She claims that these tax cuts were just greta for growth and job growth in the US. I don’t think history has been kind to those claims…

        • Jenny


          Whoo hoo!

          “…..government expenditure reduction is the most pressing issue in the West…”

          Jeremy Harris

          (Except of course when it is expenditure to bail out failed corporates with billions of taxpayers dollars)

          Jeremy your disgusting philosophy of greed is showing, when you write admiringly of those you call “the most enterprising and productive in society, (who) spend a fortune on lawyers and accountants to keep their tax exposure the same..?”

          Most other people would call them criminal tax dodgers and undeserving parasites on society.

          All the Mercator Center graph tells me, is that we need to take a harder line with those sorts of people.

          Jeremy, a link to the Mercator Center website??

          You gotta be kidding.

          An organisation founded by someone called Rich Fink.

          An organisation almost totally funded by Koch Industries.

          An organisation linked to the, (also Koch funded), notorious global warming denying Cato Institute,

          An organisation that attacked, as onerous regulations such as a proposed Interior Department rule prohibiting snowmobiles in Rocky Mountain National Park.

          An organisation that lobbied against Transportation Department rules limiting truckers’ hours behind the wheel.

          An organisation that attacked U.S. Environmental Protection Agency rules limiting the amount of arsenic in drinking water.

          As an example of a loyal paid for creature, for advancing corporate interests, the Mercator Center would be hard to beat.

          • Jeremy Harris

            Jenny, I have not, do not and never will support corporate bailouts… I’ve stated that the Nat government had to pay out SCF due to a stupid law passed by Labour and stupidly extended by National and because the government breaking it’s own laws is a precedent I don’t want to see, I wish no such law existed, I wish no banking bailouts had happened… I must say unlike many posters on this site who hate banking bailouts but would happily support subsidies (in many cases giving taxpayer money to the wealthy) in NZ companies that “develop NZ skills” or similar, i.e. the companies they approve of…

            I don’t have a philosophy of greed, I don’t own a car due in part to environmental concerns, I wear well worn clothes, I don’t overconsume, I give to charity… But I recognise that we as a society need to produce and innovate to cloth, house and feed the overwhelming majority in society and in my opinion nothing so far devised works better than a system of small government, with social and economic liberalism at it’s core… It isn’t perfect but neither is democracy and both are the best we’ve so far come up with, I won’t disagree with you that there are problems with our current monetary system I’d like to see changed…

            On the graph, apart from talking about how you don’t like the organisation, it’s funders you haven’t provided any empirical evidence or an alternate graph disproving it, just that you don’t like people who legally minimise their taxes, they are “parasites” in fact… I wonder how you’d react if I was disgusting enough to call beneficiaries “parasites” but you socialists are the moral ones, right..?

            • Colonial Viper

              Jenny, I have not, do not and never will support corporate bailouts…

              real capitalists and real politicians support corporate bailouts. A couple of trillion dollars worth.

              nothing so far devised works better than a system of small government, with social and economic liberalism at it’s core…

              No country in the world works like this which has not got entrenched suffering and poverty. The country does not exist.

              just that you don’t like people who legally minimise their taxes, they are “parasites” in fact…

              Well these people make life tougher on the ordinary working person who doesn’t have tax accountants restructuring their personal affairs. Too many of the very rich duck their responsibilities.

              Google pays less than 5% effective tax on their international profits. Wow.

              Great for their shareholders, less so for all the cops, teachers and street cleaners who have been laid off due to finance sector demanded deficit reduction activities.

            • felix

              “…in my opinion nothing so far devised works better than a system of small government, with social and economic liberalism at it’s core”

              For example?

              edit CV beat me to it. You have to get up pretty early to catch CV out.

              • Colonial Viper

                😀 Hi Felix

                On another note, here are more indications that Bill and John will soon be in an election year with a horrendously weak economy. Labour, Goff, Cunliffe et al – be prepared with answers and plans that the electorate will get!


                Business confidence plummets to decade-low

                Business confidence has plummeted to its lowest level in more than a decade and indications are there could be worse to come, according a survey of North Island businesses.

                The latest Auckland Chamber of Commerce survey of 1000 Auckland businesses shows just 18 per cent in the region expect business conditions to improve in the next six months and outside of Auckland, in drought stricken Northland, sentiment is even weaker.

                It is the second quarter that confidence has fallen to a level lower than it has been in more than a decade and represents a considerable drop from June results

                Chamber chief executive Michael Barnett said the traditional spring surge in optimism had failed to materialise, and 2011 would spell the end for some businesses who were only now “hanging on by the skin of their teeth”.

                Bill and John have no plan. This NAT Government is a long list of missed opportunities, enriching the few while encumbering the many.

            • Jeremy Harris

              It’s the same merry go round guys – I point out the economic theories, and their application in countries today and in the past that I think provide an excellent examples, you guys say they don’t and that they are perfect examples of the rich exploiting the poor, I say that average living standards increased many times over, you guys say…., I say….., etc, etc…

              Then KJT pops up and asks me to move to Somalia…

              Followed by DTB saying I’m a RWNJ and we should make our own TVs out of faeces…

              Closely followed by Robert Atack saying I’m in complete denial about oil and a coward and I should stock 10 years of water in my bomb shelter and call him on his cell if I dare…

              Finally lprent, calls me a ignorant dickhead who is obviously incorrect because he considered my point once 30 years ago and dismissed it, making it, of course, undisputably, universally, incorrect…

              I don’t really have the energy to have the same conversation for the upteenth time, I wanted to respond to Jenny’s high handed, moralistic accusations…

              • Colonial Viper

                Jeremy, its interesting we seem to be getting each another. BTW impressed that you go out of your way to minimise motor vehicle use. I need to make more efforts in that regard, but at the moment its hard to find alternatives which work for where/when I need to go.

                • Jeremy Harris

                  Yeah, most of our debates end in agreements to disagree or peter out rather than namecalling these days – what a let down…

                  Well living off the busiest bus route in NZ and being a fan of PT helps… Even with these advantages it is a hamper, I might buy a very small engined car or scooter next year… I also do it in part to save money to invest, I may consume more later when I have a more solid investment base, I don’t know…

                  I don’t think I would use as much PT if I lived in Dunedin – I wouldn’t worry about it, acrs are a problem in Auckland due largely to particulate and population growth/idiot traffic engineers, which I don’t think (guessing) is that much of a problem in Dunners…

              • felix

                “I point out the economic theories, and their application in countries today and in the past that I think provide an excellent examples…”

                Sorry Jeremy I must’ve missed that. Is there somewhere you can point to where you’ve had this discussion before so I can get an idea of what you’re talking about without you having to type it all again?

                • Jeremy Harris

                  Try searching this site for: “KJT somalia” or “Jeremy Harris somalia”

                  I had a debate with KJT over 20 – 30 posts a month or so ago on this very thing and one or two months before that on Red Alert with a guy called Reds Under The Beds, try searching, “Jeremy Harris UK, Japan, US, capitalism” or similar…

                  If you can find them, I’m sure you’ll feel the urge to call me a RWNJ idiot and point out all the various ways I’m wrong, so just link here and I’ll reply if you want…


              • KJT

                Of course.
                Somalia is the perfect example of your ideal of the application of unfettered capitalism, laziass faire economics and small Government.
                Funny that most of the people who advocate no taxes and small Government chose to live in countries that have social cohesion because of the opposite.

                • Jeremy Harris

                  As I’ve pointed out to you many, many times before KJT but you are too dim to grasp, “small government liberals” are not “no government liberals”, it is amazing that you cannot grasp this simple but stark difference…

                  The rule of law, functioning courts, law enforcement, a civil military are all essential to defend rights and property… Not much of this in Somalia… Otherwise people descend into chaos defending their own property…

                  What part don’t you understand..? What part would you like me to explain in small words..?

                  It like pulling bloody teeth…

                  • KJT

                    “The rule of law, functioning courts, law enforcement,”. You would charge ordinary people taxes to protect YOUR property rights, but you do not believe in taxes and laws so ordinary working people get a fair share. And in your dog eat dog system those who cannot work or support themselves are supposed to quietly starve.

                    Small Government to reduce your share of the cost of living in society.

                    Not really much different from Somalia except the rich pay for their own armies.

                    Get it!

                    • Jeremy Harris

                      Absolutely incorrect KJT…

                      Read slowly and calmly… Arisostle once said,

                      A society grows great, when old men plant trees whose shade they will never sit under

                      The difference between me and you is I think that 95% of the people in society are decent, understand that this principle is a great thing and will plant trees in their dotterage willingly… In this analogy you believe that people are scumbags and must be forced to plant trees with a government gun to their head… Your beliefs are immoral… The use of force is not justifiable, whether physical, emotionally, financially, it is moral to reduce force…

                      I have faith that if taxes were reduced to 5% of GDP and our lives were our own – as long as we didn’t adversely affect others, than the growth in wealth, prosperity, responsibility and creativity would mean that the overwhelming majority of people would be far better off than currently and I have faith that this say 80% of the population would willingly give to NGOs to help the less fortunate…

                      My motivation isn’t solely monetary, of course I’d like to pay less tax – most people would, but my primary motivation is morality and what works in reality…

                    • KJT

                      “My motivation isn’t solely monetary, of course I’d like to pay less tax – most people would, but my primary motivation is morality and what works in reality”.


                      You have no idea of what works in reality.

                      Mind you, you have a lot of growing up to do yet. You may get some brains as you mature and see the contradictions in your ideas.

                      Unlike you, I have no problem with paying my fair share of tax to live in a decent and civilised society.

                      We have seen in the past what societies are like when they depend on the charity and goodwill of the rich. Victorian work houses anyone?

                      I believe in the honesty and morality of 95% of the population. Unfortunately in our world it is not usually the honest or moral who accumulate wealth.

                    • Jeremy Harris

                      Suprious, unreasoned cliche’s…

                      As usual we’ll have to end in disagreement…

                  • Colonial Viper

                    It seems Jeremy that the guts of the conversations do seem to replay – and that you have the pattern down pat. Discussions around the most appropriate mix of roles for the private sector and the public sector might be a fruitful way ahead.

                    I have no doubt that property and life need to be defended from lawlessness.

                    Now on the essentials of life – water, food, shelter. Where do you stand on that? An AK 47 bullet might ends someone’s life very quickly. But a lack of these essentials will do the exact same thing – albeit spread over a slightly longer period, and the end my come through chronic disease not traumatic blood loss from a bullet wound.

                    The other thing is participation in society. Do we want all citizens to have a high degree of participation in society? Is that a good value to hold or aspire to?

                    • Jeremy Harris

                      Now on the essentials of life – water, food, shelter. Where do you stand on that?

                      Suprisingly I’m for them…

                      The other thing is participation in society. Do we want all citizens to have a high degree of participation in society? Is that a good value to hold or aspire to?

                      Yes of course, but as in almost all things it should be voluntary, if people want to just work their 8 hours go home and watch TV, I see no reason not allow them to do so…

                  • KJT

                    Jeremy. Just some food for thought. What happened in Ireland when the poor depended on the philanthropy of the rich.


                    • Jeremy Harris

                      Really…? That’s the best you can find..? A sole reference from 1729..?

                      I mean honestly, how much excess production do you think there was before the industrial revolution..? How many multiple times have living standards doubled since then..?

                      It’d be funny if it wasn’t about such a serious subject…

                    • KJT

                      Jeremy. In your position that taxation is an act of force. Can’t you see the contradiction. You think some taxation is OK for police and army to protect your property, but you do not agree with taxation to ensure that people who do not have jobs (To keep an efficient/low paid labour market for capitalism to work) do not starve.

                      In what way is your position different from the rich in 1729?

                      I would agree with you about Government regulation when it is bought by corporates to help them keep their market position. Including rules for banks which exclude new co-operatives in banking. but what about the withdrawal of the Glass Steagal act in the USA which was a major cause of their present problems.

                      A think the markets are the best distribution system on a micro scale for things where a genuine competitive market can exist.
                      Their needs to be a path for entrepreuners who are not already rich to start.Otherwise the degree of competition continually reduces.

                      But. History has proved that without democratic regulation the dishonest, the uncaring, the sociopaths or those who can afford the most guns always get to the top. NACT party members and the business round table who do not care if 30 000 people starve so long as their taxes are reduced.

                      In NZ with an 83% increase in productivity, wages have only risen 15%. Less if you consider the CPI is skewed towards luxury items the ordinary wage earner does not buy.
                      Without democracy the wealthiest always gerrymander the laws to make themselves better off.

  13. Deadly_NZ 13

    Has anyone seen the Teflon john on TV tonight ????

    He cant understand why we are all not falling over ourselves in gratitude for all the money we got in the tax cuts and how we are dreaming if they dont let us spend and also save ….

    yeah right I got about $2.50

    in that my groceries went up by about 20.00
    petrol is still climbing
    Acc went up so the rego is now about 80 bucks a year extra
    Plus the rest of the GST

    I am sorry john I forgot to be grateful for the fact that I Cannot even buy my partner a b/day pres or pay the doc’s bill cos she having a hard pregnancy..

    How ungrateful am i?? Well i may even vote for your old nemesis winston!!!!

    • mcflock 13.2

      He can’t understand it because he did quite well out of the tax cuts, and can’t figure out why not everyone is as relaxed about it as he is

    • Jenny 13.3


      “How ungrateful am i?? Well i may even vote for your old nemesis winston!!!!”


      Probably not a good move Deadly, As Winston is guaranteed to back the Nats.


      Because Winnie would never accept a coalition government that had the Greens in it.

      Labour on present polling would not have the numbers to form a government with only NZ First as partner. (The same is true for a sole Greens coalition partner.)

      Winnie will not want to be in opposition, so he will inevitably go with Key and the Nats. (Particularly if he is offered a very juicy shiny bauble.)

  14. SHG 14

    A forecast attributed to Polish scientists of the coldest European winter in 1,000 years has drawn plenty of media attention recently

    Among other comments made to the church leaders that day, John Key is reported to have said, “If we cancelled welfare to 330,000 people currently on welfare, how many would starve to death? Bugger all.”

    Spot the difference!

  15. sean14 15

    but some intrepid reporter needs to follow up and see if this quote can be verified.

    But you’ll bravely run the “quote” in the meantime, R0B. Will you alter this post if no verification is forthcoming?

  16. Deadly_NZ 16

    Yeah good point Winnie was a bad choice. So Green party give em enough seats in the house the greens hopefully will come up witth something other than the ‘smacking’ law..

    better education
    Climate change
    Alternative fuels
    legalisation of marijuana
    make tobacco illegal
    do to alcohol what the nats did to tobacco

    then the tax take on marijuana will cover what they lose in tobacco

    and I am in my 50’s an ex smoker ex heavy drinker
    marijuana smoker ,thinker

    thats me

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  • Workshop on Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems – opening remarks
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  • Inter-prison kapa haka competition launched
    For the first time, all 18 prisons in New Zealand will be invited to participate in an inter-prison kapa haka competition, Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis announced today. The 2021 Hōkai Rangi Whakataetae Kapa Haka will see groups prepare and perform kapa haka for experienced judges who visit each prison and ...
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  • Government takes step forward on counter terrorism laws
    The Government has introduced the Counter-Terrorism Legislation Bill, designed to boost New Zealand's ability to respond to a wider range of terrorist activities. The Bill strengthens New Zealand’s counter-terrorism legislation and ensures that the right legislative tools are available to intervene early and prevent harm. “This is the Government’s first ...
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  • Carbon neutral government a step closer
    Coal boiler replacements at a further ten schools, saving an estimated 7,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide over the next ten years Fossil fuel boiler replacements at Southern Institute of Technology and Taranaki DHB, saving nearly 14,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide over the next ten years Projects to achieve a total ...
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  • Appointment of Chief Parliamentary Counsel
    Attorney-General David Parker today announced the appointment of Cassie Nicholson as Chief Parliamentary Counsel for a term of five years. The Chief Parliamentary Counsel is the principal advisor and Chief Executive of the Parliamentary Counsel Office (PCO).  She is responsible for ensuring PCO, which drafts most of New Zealand’s legislation, provides ...
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  • Emissions report shows urgent action needed
    Every part of Government will need to take urgent action to bring down emissions, the Minister for Climate Change, James Shaw said today in response to the recent rise in New Zealand’s greenhouse emissions. The latest annual inventory of New Zealand’s greenhouse gas emissions shows that both gross and net ...
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  • NZ becomes first in world for climate reporting
    Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister David Clark says Aotearoa New Zealand has become the first country in the world to introduce a law that requires the financial sector to disclose the impacts of climate change on their business and explain how they will manage climate-related risks and opportunities. The Financial ...
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  • Awards celebrate the food and fibre sector employer excellence
    Exceptional employment practices in the primary industries have been celebrated at the Good Employer Awards, held this evening at Parliament. “Tonight’s awards provided the opportunity to celebrate and thank those employers in the food and fibres sector who have gone beyond business-as-usual in creating productive, safe, supportive, and healthy work ...
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  • Tourism Infrastructure Fund now open
    Applications are now invited from all councils for a slice of government funding aimed at improving tourism infrastructure, especially in areas under pressure given the size of their rating bases. Tourism Minister Stuart Nash has already signalled that five South Island regions will be given priority to reflect that jobs ...
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  • Construction Skills Action Plan delivering early on targets
    The Construction Skills Action Plan has delivered early on its overall target of supporting an additional 4,000 people into construction-related education and employment, says Minister for Building and Construction Poto Williams. Since the Plan was launched in 2018, more than 9,300 people have taken up education or employment opportunities in ...
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  • Youth Justice residence offers new pathway
    An innovative new Youth Justice residence designed in partnership with Māori will provide prevention, healing, and rehabilitation services for both young people and their whānau, Children’s Minister Kelvin Davis announced today.  Whakatakapokai is located in South Auckland and will provide care and support for up to 15 rangatahi remanded or ...
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  • The Duke of Edinburgh
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern today expressed New Zealand’s sorrow at the death of His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. “Our thoughts are with Her Majesty The Queen at this profoundly sad time.  On behalf of the New Zealand people and the Government, I would like to express ...
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  • Five Country Ministerial Communiqué
    We, the Home Affairs, Interior, Security and Immigration Ministers of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States of America (the ‘Five Countries’) met via video conference on 7/8 April 2021, just over a year after the outbreak of the COVID-19 global pandemic. Guided by our shared ...
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  • Inspiring creativity through cultural installations and events
    Arts, Culture and Heritage Minister Carmel Sepuloni has today announced the opening of the first round of Ngā Puninga Toi ā-Ahurea me ngā Kaupapa Cultural Installations and Events. “Creating jobs and helping the arts sector rebuild and recover continues to be a key part of the Government’s COVID-19 response,” Carmel ...
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  • Drug-testing law to be made permanent
    Interim legislation that is already proving to keep people safer from drugs will be made permanent, Health Minister Andrew Little says. Research by Victoria University, on behalf of the Ministry of Health, shows that the Government’s decision in December to make it legal for drug-checking services to operate at festivals ...
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  • Better rules proposed for freedom camping
    Public consultation launched on ways to improve behaviour and reduce damage Tighter rules proposed for either camping vehicles or camping locations Increased penalties proposed, such as $1,000 fines or vehicle confiscation Rental companies may be required to collect fines from campers who hire vehicles Public feedback is sought on proposals ...
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  • Government backs Air New Zealand as Trans-Tasman bubble opens
    The Government is continuing to support Air New Zealand while aviation markets stabilise and the world moves towards more normal border operations. The Crown loan facility made available to Air New Zealand in March 2020 has been extended to a debt facility of up to $1.5 billion (an additional $600 ...
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  • Building gifted for new community hub in Richmond red zone
    Christchurch’s Richmond suburb will soon have a new community hub, following the gifting of a red-zoned property by Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) to the Richmond Community Gardens Trust. The Minister for Land Information, Damien O’Connor said that LINZ, on behalf of the Crown, will gift a Vogel Street house ...
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  • Pacific languages funding reopens
      Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio says the reopening of the Ministry for Pacific Peoples’ (MPP) Languages Funding in 2021 will make sure there is a future for Pacific languages. “Language is the key to the wellbeing for Pacific people. It affirms our identity as Pasifika and ...
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  • ERANZ speech April 2021
    It is a pleasure to be here tonight.  Thank you Cameron for the introduction and thank you for ERANZ for also hosting this event. Last week in fact, we had one of the largest gatherings in our sector, Downstream 2021. I have heard from my officials that the discussion on ...
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  • Strengthening Māori knowledge in science and innovation
    Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods has today announced the 16 projects that will together get $3.9 million through the 2021 round of Te Pūnaha Hihiko: Vision Mātauranga Capability Fund, further strengthening the Government’s commitment to Māori knowledge in science and innovation.  “We received 78 proposals - the highest ...
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  • Government delivers next phase of climate action
    The Government is delivering on a key election commitment to tackle climate change, by banning new low and medium temperature coal-fired boilers and partnering with the private sector to help it transition away from fossil fuels. This is the first major announcement to follow the release of the Climate Commission’s ...
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  • Continued investment in Central Otago schools supports roll growth
    Six projects, collectively valued at over $70 million are delivering new schools, classrooms and refurbished buildings across Central Otago and are helping to ease the pressure of growing rolls in the area, says Education Minister Chris Hipkins. The National Education Growth Plan is making sure that sufficient capacity in the ...
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  • Two more Christchurch schools complete
    Two more schools are now complete as part of the Christchurch Schools Rebuild Programme, with work about to get under way on another, says Education Minister Chris Hipkins. Te Ara Koropiko – West Spreydon School will welcome students to their new buildings for the start of Term 2. The newly ...
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  • Independent experts to advise Government on post-vaccination future
    The Government is acting to ensure decisions on responding to the next phase of the COVID-19 pandemic are informed by the best available scientific evidence and strategic public health advice. “New Zealand has worked towards an elimination strategy which has been successful in keeping our people safe and our economy ...
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  • Supporting Māori success with Ngārimu Awards
    Six Māori scholars have been awarded Ngārimu VC and the 28th (Māori) Battalion Memorial scholarships for 2021, Associate Education Minister and Ngārimu Board Chair, Kelvin Davis announced today. The prestigious Manakura Award was also presented for the first time since 2018. “These awards are a tribute to the heroes of the 28th ...
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  • Global partnerships propel space tech research
    New Zealand’s aerospace industry is getting a boost through the German Aerospace Centre (DLR), to grow the capability of the sector and potentially lead to joint space missions, Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods has announced. 12 New Zealand organisations have been chosen to work with world-leading experts at ...
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  • Government backs more initiatives to boost food and fibre workforce
    The Government is backing more initiatives to boost New Zealand’s food and fibre sector workforce, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. “The Government and the food and fibres sector have been working hard to fill critical workforce needs.  We've committed to getting 10,000 more Kiwis into the sector over the ...
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  • Minister welcomes Bill to remove Subsequent Child Policy
    Minister for Social Development and Employment Carmel Sepuloni has welcomed the first reading of the Social Security (Subsequent Child Policy Removal) Amendment Bill in the House this evening. “Tonight’s first reading is another step on the way to removing excessive sanctions and obligations for people receiving a Main Benefit,” says ...
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  • Mental Health Amendment Bill passes first reading
    The Government has taken a significant step towards delivering on its commitment to improve the legislation around mental health as recommended by He Ara Oranga – the report of the Government Inquiry into Mental Health and Addiction, Health Minister Andrew Little says. The Mental Health (Compulsory Assessment and Treatment) Amendment ...
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  • Whenua Māori Rating Amendment Bill passes third reading
    Local Government Minister Nanaia Mahuta has welcomed the Local Government (Rating of Whenua Māori) Amendment Bill passing its third reading today. “After nearly 100 years of a system that was not fit for Māori and did not reflect the partnership we have come to expect between Māori and the Crown, ...
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  • Trans-Tasman bubble to start 19 April
    New Zealand’s successful management of COVID means quarantine-free travel between New Zealand and Australia will start on Monday 19 April, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins confirmed the conditions for starting to open up quarantine free travel with Australia have ...
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  • Ngāti Hinerangi Claims Settlement Bill passes Third Reading
    Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations Andrew Little welcomed ngā uri o Ngāti Hinerangi to Parliament today to witness the third reading of their Treaty settlement legislation, the Ngāti Hinerangi Claims Settlement Bill. “I want to acknowledge ngā uri o Ngāti Hinerangi and the Crown negotiations teams for working tirelessly ...
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