Key’s desperate spin

Written By: - Date published: 3:10 pm, July 18th, 2010 - 67 comments
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With the reaction to laws attacking workers John Key has tried to misdirect by claiming unions have no example of abuse of the 90 day law.

A couple of points John:

1) It’s up to you to provide evidence the law needs to be changed, that’s kinda how governing works, however;
2) Off the top of my head I can think of three examples:

After refusing to spend her entire part-time pay on shoes sold by her employer Amy Jewitt was told she was:

on a three month probation period and by not wearing the shoes she was not committed to the job.

Florence Cohen was sacked from her job at Take Note, in her last week of the fire at will period without being told why.

And on Marae this morning (right across the end of the first clip and the start of the second) Matt McCarten told of a case where a young woman told her boss she wasn’t comfortable answering his personal questions and got the sack the next day.

And these are just the cases that have been brought to the attention of the media. It’s the tip of the iceberg because most cases vulnerable workers will just suck up abuse and move on.

Key knows that, he’s just desperate to push the issue into some other frame and figures he’ll try a bit of union bashing.

It’s a cowardly misdirection but what else would you expect from a man pushing a law attacking workers like Jewitt and Cohen?

67 comments on “Key’s desperate spin”

  1. omar 1

    TV3 had a Unite member called Lisa on the news on Friday who was sacked for last year for no reason.
    http://www.unite.org.nz/node/715

  2. marsman 2

    Key and his cabinet of creeps are taking the country back to those dark days that the odious Shipley left us with.

  3. Santi 3

    Is Farrar involved?

  4. I have an example. A young man that I know works part time in a butcher’s shop. The ownership changed recently and the new boss inserted 90 day trial clauses in the new contracts. He then proceeded to fire 4 of the 5 workers for reasons that were ridiculous.

    Being young and not part of the union each of the workers went off and most have found alternative work. It took a while though for each of them and they suffered hardship. They each think more poorly of the capitalist system because of their experience.

    We do not hear of their cases in the media but if each of us knows of 4 or 5 cases then the total must number in the thousands.

    What really pisses me off is that Key continuously talks about “responsible employers” and how they will not act aggressively or unreasonably.

    Of course they will not but the law is not needed for them, it is needed for the others who will act unilaterally and irresponsibly.

    • nilats 4.1

      Name the butchery MS so we do not buy meat from there? Dirty capitalist scum.
      Or are you afraid of defamation?
      I thought when business are sold terms & conditions of employment stay the same or have I missed something?

      • Lanthanide 4.1.1

        I’m not sure on the legality, but it is pretty common for new owners to ‘restructure’ the business and review roles after it’s been bought out. It seems that the 90-day fire policy basically makes this a hell of a lot easier – instead of going through the formal restructuring process, you can just sack them and they have no right of reply.

    • Connie Mist 4.2

      My niece works at a butcher shop – she was told she was being paid less than minimum wage because she was on a 3 month trial – no sign of a contract; she knows it’s illegal but she is grateful for the job…

      Mad, it’s MAD!

  5. Aug 5

    I just finished reading the Department of Labour research on the 90 day trials and in that document the unions talk about a couple of instances of abuse. Section 2.2.8.is called Reported misuse of trial periods.

  6. Peter 6

    The problem is Mickey is that even if you can point to 4-5 cases where there may have been issues the policy as a whole seems to be working.

    I had lunch with a couple of ex workmates from Work and Income a few weeks ago and both were saying how much easier it has become to convince employers to give clients who have been on benefits long term a chance. Some of them fail to get permanent jobs but from what the two told me said most are getting full time jobs.

    The whole policy seems to have made employers much more willing to take a risk and give people a chance where before most would simply play it safe.

    • Careful Peter; if you speak too much common-sense like that, you’ll be moderated outa here! It’s not what they want to hear, even if it is the truth.

      • Bill 6.1.1

        See, here’s just a wee part of the problem with the way you right wing chappies are portraying matters.

        The guy who’s the boss is looking for help to increase the profitability of the business. And he is viewing the people whose help he seeks as dodgy at best and downright dangerous at worst.

        Given that mind set…and it’s one you chappies on the right keep repeating and punting as normal…it would appear patently obvious that workers need protection from the unfounded hate, fear and paranoia of employers.

        But you all want to give the hate, fear and paranoia of the boss of your perspective free range.

        • Inventory2 6.1.1.1

          Bill; I can only speak from my own experience, but Mrs Inventory and I don’t hire people, then invest significant time, effort and money in training them just so that we can move them on after 89 days. To do that would be, for our business, economic and management suicide.

          We want staff who will be with us for the long haul, and we invest heavily in them. But sometimes we make mistakes in recruitment. The applicant may not be who they appeared to be at interview, or the realities of the job might not match their expectations. We will certainly give serious consideration to implementing this policy down the track.

          • IrishBill 6.1.1.1.1

            We’ve already had this discussion:

            “It sounds like a matter that could be very easily dealt with a performance management framework. If there are measurables then all you need to do is make them performance indicators and review them regularly.

            Rather than having to go through the hiring process again and again until you find a fit for the job you may find that reviewing the reasons your employee isn’t achieving their targets gives you the chance for them to find ways to deal with those reasons either by giving them ways to fix their problems that have been derived from your experience and the experience of your other employees or by highlighting problems with your work structure that could be fixed.

            If you performance review properly you’ll often find structural problems that you can fix and often fixing these problems increases productivity across all staff even those who are already performing.

            Of course you could just keep churning through staff until you find enough people that can deal with your sub-optimal systems. But that costs them and it costs you as well.”

            • Inventory2 6.1.1.1.1.1

              IB – appreciate your suggestions, but we already have a good appraisal system, we consult extensively with our staff, we survey them regularly and respond to concerns when they are raised. We outsource when we do not have the necessary expertise.

              We have had few “bad hires”, but those we have had have caused a lot of angst. There’s nothing worse than having an employee who clearly doesn’t want to be there.

              • Bill

                If there is nothing worse than “having an employee who clearly doesn’t want to be there”, then what is the point of introducing a massive disincentive for said employee to jump to a different employer? ‘Cause that’s what the 90 days is.

            • AngryTory 6.1.1.1.1.2

              More crazy leftist “process” – just like Hellen.

              haven’t you guys worked out NZ doesn’t want that any more?

              Look if you work for me and youre got at it and I like you – you’ve got a job.

              If you’re not – you’re fired. It really is that simple. 9 days or 90 days or 9 months or 9 years – doesn’t matter. I’m the boss. You’re the “employee” for just as long as I want you.

              Get it? or get out!

              • Puddleglum

                “Look if you work for me and youre got at it and I like you you’ve got a job.”

                So AngryTory, there’s three conditions to you hiring and keeping someone:

                1. ‘You work for me’ – fair enough, it’s hard to fire someone who doesn’t work for you.
                2. ‘youre got at it’ [‘You’re good at it’??] – fair enough, performance at the job is expected.
                3. ‘and I like you’ … What? You have to ‘like’ them? How much? To invite back to your place for dinner? To have a beer with after work? If they agree with your every opinion on any and everything (e.g., about this government)?

                AngryTory, with a third condition like that would you see yourself as one of John Key’s ‘responsible’ employers or as just the kind of employer that would justify a government NOT allowing a 90 day fire at will clause in employment agreements?

                You sound like the second kind yet I suspect you see yourself as the first kind. This is the problem with this kind of law – people (employers) who think they are ‘common sense’, ‘decent’ NZers but who actually act with disregard to natural justice or any sense of fairness. People who are mesmerised by their own importance as “the boss” to the point where they can’t distinguish between their personal prejudices (which should have no bearing on employment prospects) and their judgment as an employer.

        • Alexandra 6.1.1.2

          The trick is an employer reluctant to employ the “risky” workers will do so because of the substantial govt subsidy. What I would like to know from Peters friends in the know, is were the blessed chosen ones employed after the 90 days probation?

          • Peter 6.1.1.2.1

            Alexandra, I don’t know.

            I do know however when I was working for Work and Income around 2004 that as a case manager there were a number of subsidies available to us to encourage employers to take a chance.on staff members.

            What I found was that these may virtually zero impact to an employer weighing up hiring a person they deemed risky as the potential impact to their business was of a bad hire was simply to great.

    • Craig Glen Eden 6.2

      The trouble with what you have said Peter is the old legislation already had a trial period.

      So the new legislation has probably done nothing because those people would have got employed any way. Six weeks a go I employed a new employee not because I was taking a risk or a gamble but because I needed them and they are the right person. As a business owner I don’t take gambles when employing people, who would? Why would an employer be so bloody stupid?

      If the employer knows what they are doing and have got their processes right then they have nothing to fear. The only thing I am concerned about is how badly this Government is doing with the economy. So much for catching up with Australia. fat chance!

      • comedy 6.2.1

        I’d be interested to know what processes you’re using we’ve employed a couple of people over the last couple of years who interviewed brilliantly, psych tested OK and had good references and frankly after about a month I would have traded them for a battery hen.

      • Peter 6.2.2

        I disagree Craig that all these people would have been hired anyhow and would ask when was the last time you hired a person who hadn’t worked for 5 years, 10 years or even 15 years?

        I know from having dealt with these people that it was virtually impossible to find employers who would hire them. They would take one look at a persons cv (or lack of it) and that was it. However listening to my ex colleagues what they are finding now is that more employers are taking that opportunity to give them a go.

        • loota 6.2.2.1

          No, I don’t understand the scenario you raise here. You are saying that most employers would choose someone with 5-10-15 years worth of work experience as being most suitable for a given job.

          How does this legislation make someone with ZERO (or near zero) work experience suddenly most suitable for that same job?

          Or is it because the employer now thinks that they can now risk an inexperienced person in the position, with an underlying motivation to cut the pay for the position? I mean, you wouldn’t pay a new school leaver the same as a thirty year old with a proven track record of working with others, would you?

          So, in effect, this displaces someone more experienced out of the job vacancy and out of better pay.

          And…this is better for our workforce? Or just for the employer?

          • Peter 6.2.2.1.1

            Actually Loota all I am saying is that this policy is giving opportunities to people who have been unemployed long term who in the past wouldn’t generally be overlooked.

            However I think from my experience what I have generally seen is if an employer wanted to reduce his staffs wages then hiring a large number of low paid/low skilled employees will simply result in either:
            a) the high skill staff training up the low paid/low skilled staff eg on the job training and the low paid staff either 1) asking for a pay increase and 2) looking for a job elsewhere where his newly acquired skills will be properly compensated or

            b) the high skilled high paid staff getting PO’d which having to supervise all these new low paid/low skilled staff which results in him either 1) going to the boss and getting a pay increase to compensate for the additional stress or 2) looking for a job elsewhere where his skills/stress levels will be more appropriately compensated and the employer forced to hire a new similar skilled person (who would be expecting the exact same sort of rates) or b) trying to manage with the low skilled/low paid staff which will generally negatively impact the business to the point he will either have to reform or close.

            • loota 6.2.2.1.1.1

              Peter, yes it would be a good thing to give opportunities to people who have been unemployed long term and who may be frequently overlooked.

              But the 90 day right to fire surely can’t be the best way to go about achieving this obejctive can it?

              And if this is one of the major aims of the legislation, where is the rest of the comprehensive Government programme to support these people into jobs and to help them succeed once they have been taking onboard? Is the average employer going to know how to manage someone with such a difficult and sparse employment background compared to their average staffer?

              When you look at it from this point of view, it seems obvious that this policy is not part of any real, genuine effort to give the long term unemployed better chances.

              • Peter

                I can’t comment what the Governments objectives were from this policy because I not a member of this government and simply don’t know. What I do know is that the policies that were in place prior to the 90 day bill had little to no impact on this group.

                I would also suggest that many long term unemployed don’t need special treatment/management but rather simply given a go.

    • lprent 6.3

      Of course it would help if therewas some place to register grievances. Then we could find out how good or bad the policy has been operating. That would be a way of making responsible policy.

      For some reason NACT didn’t seem to thin was worth doing. In fact they don’t even monitor how many people have been employed under the provisions of the act. They just Tuesdays use questionable anedocotes.

      You’d have to ask if they have any faith that it does what they claim. Doesn’t look like it to me. Just looks like a way to drop wages

      • comedy 6.3.1

        If as has been posited that the unions and the opposition knew this was going to be coming I think it’s an unmitigated failure on their part.

        First for not screaming blue murder between the introduction of the law and now and secondly for not at least having their ducks all lined up ready to go rather than a disorganised protest and a few anecdotes to point to the failure of the changes to the employment law to date.

        FFS over at the bog someone’s found that the case study used above is a member of the Labour party – this is the kind of useless shit that let’s the government get away with whatever they want.

        • Pascal's bookie 6.3.1.1

          “the case study used above is a member of the Labour party”

          sfw?

    • michaeljsavage 6.4

      That becomes a possible lie and rightwing propaganda unless it can be verified. Have you ever looked at the quality of work and income staff (people i deal with have – and i have had to in turn deal with those work and income staff) … many are immigrants – with distinct limits on cultural sensititivity to white nzers let alone brown .. and language difficulties but they are dealing with NZers …(mind you many of the applicants are also immigrants, branding the kiwis on a numerical basis as neer do wells by adding to the stats) have you ever looked at the believability of work and income staff to be quoting this sort of anecdotal evidence.

      Inventory2 is simply a rightwing whore – up for the best item that confirms its viewpoint. A slag – nothing more.

      I also deal with employers … work and income is regarded as a joke – your contacts are therefore questionable. I wont cite name and number either – but then neither can you.

      rubbish …

      • Peter 6.4.1

        What a load of crap re the quality/type of people working for Work and Income.

        I found that the people working in Work and Income offices were as diverse as the population of this country. In the group I trained with (about 15 from memory) the male/female ratio was about even, roughly a third held degrees, around 7 were European, 5 Maori/Pacific Island, 2 Pacifc Islanders and 1 Indian.

        As for my contacts believability. Well I worked with them for 2 years, known them for 7 so I am confident that what they are telling me is accurate within the confines of their personal experience. As for your comments around how they are regarded by employers I would agree 100% with them.

        Unfortunately most employers look at Work and Income as having the dregs of the potential offerings when it comes for recruitment and largely its true. If you take a large employment market like Auckland most skilled and motivated candidates will network go to multiple employment agencies and generally find work themselves within 12-16 weeks and as a result Work and Income generally doesn’t even bother with actively pushing them within this time frame.

        Its only after this time frame that generally Work and Income start to take a harder look at things and generally there is a reason why that person hasn’t found work (skills, personal issues, drug/alcohol etc etc). Unfortunately though while Work and Income then tries to address those its more time that person is off the job market which only makes it harder to market them later on.

        In smaller rural environments its generally different again due to a number of factors ranging from generally less alternative recruitment avenues better word of mouth networks etc.

      • TightyRighty 6.4.2

        Rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble

        you are the slightly more educated version of PhilU

        • Peter 6.4.2.1

          Tighty Righty, I’m okay with your comparison because at least if you spend the time to interpret the fullstops there is generally a point to PhilU’s posts. Yours however seem more like Dad4Justice’s, full of hot angry wind and lacking in any sort of substance.

    • Macro 6.5

      So your argument Peter is this:
      “It’s good policy because it is making it easier for business to employ people, and it gets people of unemployment.”
      Fact. Unemployment has increased since the policy was introduced.
      Fact. Good businesses employ people as they need, not because they can fire them at will.
      Fact. Bad businesses employ people and fire them at will because they couldn’t plan their way out of a paper bag and haven’t the faintest idea of good management skills. If you have invested 3 months of training in a new employee… Why waste all that training? And yet 25% of new employees under this law have lost their jobs – what an incredible waste of resource! Now this idiotic administration want to extend this.
      Finally – nothing is politically right which is morally wrong – and this is.

      • Peter 6.5.1

        Actually Macro I don’t believe that this is good policy but do I believe from what I am being told by people working with the recruitment of people who have been on benefits long term is that it is making a significant positive impact of these people lives and providing them with opportunities that they would otherwise not be presented with.

        Fact. Unemployment has increased since the policy was introduced
        Fact. The world has just experienced the biggest economic crisis since the great depression of which the experts are out for debate whether it is over yet or not. Unemployment was always going to go up.

        Fact. Good businesses employ people as they need, not because they can fire them at will.
        Fact. Employers will try and minimize their risks as much as possible. This policy gives employers the motivation to take a risk which otherwise they most likely wouldn’t have.

        Fact. Bad businesses employ people and fire them at will because they couldn’t plan their way out of a paper bag and haven’t the faintest idea of good management skills.
        Fact. Good business hire people who prior to this law would have never been given the opportunity keep them because they prove allowing them to build a career.

        Finally nothing is politically right which is morally wrong and this is.
        What is morally wrong about people who have been unemployed long term being hired under this law?

        • Macro 6.5.1.1

          “What is morally wrong about people who have been unemployed long term being hired under this law?”
          What is morally right about people who are good employees being fired at will because of incompetent management?

          • Peter 6.5.1.1.1

            What is morally right about people who are good employees being fired at will because of incompetent management?
            What is morally wrong about people who are risking their own money/reputation running their business in what ever manner they like as long as its lawful?

  7. Fisiani 7

    Peter you are so right. For every case that might appear in some way dodgy there are about 90 people who have gained useful and permanent employment with full rights. People who have been unable to find work before are been given a fair go. This policy will encourage employers to take on more and more staff and will be the greatest employment policy ever.

    • IrishBill 7.1

      For every case that might appear in some way dodgy there are about 90 people who have gained useful and permanent employment with full rights.

      Y’see that’s exactly the kind of statistic Key needs to put up if he wants this to be seen as anything other than an attack on workers. I presume you have a source?

    • michaeljsavage 7.2

      How do you know fisiani – quote some instances.

      Many of us who deal with this type of scenario know this is bullshit.

      The government is encouraging employers to behave like piranha … and they or many of them … will

      • Fisiani 7.2.1

        Easy proof IB. It just needs basic maths. A mere 22% of people taken on were let go, many within days. (FACT) Assume dodgy ie outrageous dismissals as high as 5% of these. Highly unlikely of course. More realistic figure might be less than 1.25% (So only 0.3 – 1.1%) of rightly dissatisfied employees. . Level of reported complaints is about this rate.(FACT) All others therefore employed with first employer or able to be achieve employment with another employer. (FACT)
        ie about 1:90 One problem for every 90 satisfied workers.
        The 90 day right to prove and improve yourself is a great advance in work placement opportunity and will be welcomed by any worker looking for a job who has a CV problem.

        • michaeljsavage 7.2.1.1

          Presentation skills – zero – reasoning … zero

          likelihood of special needs applications … probably 60 percent

          PI name … PI reasoning.

          Go and apply to NZon air for a hip hop vid … it may well be more lucrative …

          IrishBill: and that’s you banned for a week for racism.

        • IrishBill 7.2.1.2

          That’s classic. Now can you use the same technique to prove the moon is actually a clever optical illusion fashioned from a tin of beans and assorted consonants? And then that Abe Lincoln went forward in time to assassinate Kennedy over a long standing space-time feud over an unfinished game of dominoes?

          Because I think you can.

          • Fisiani 7.2.1.2.1

            At least I can give and have given a convincing statistical argument rather than resort to hyperbole and clutching at straw man reasoning and ad hominen attack.
            BTW MJS is way wrong about Fisiani being a PI name.

            • Lanthanide 7.2.1.2.1.1

              “convincing statistical argument”

              No, not really at all.

              • Pascal's bookie

                So you don’t find ‘assume my conclusion is true’ to be a convincing argument?

                Fucking Elitist.

        • Draco T Bastard 7.2.1.3

          There’s not a single piece of fact in you’re entire diatribe – only the delusional thinking that is endemic to RWNJs.

        • Macro 7.2.1.4

          “A mere 22% of people taken on were let go” – 25% actually and 74% were in full time
          employment

          “Assume dodgy ie outrageous dismissals as high as 5% of these. Highly unlikely of course.”
          – now that IS an outrageous assumption! An assumption for your purpose of statistical whitewash. A far more likely senario is that 100% of them were fired because the management skills of those hiring were hopeless. But let’s not look at management because they are oh so perfect in NZ.

    • Macro 7.3

      “For every case that might appear in some way dodgy there are about 90 people who have gained useful and permanent employment with full rights.”

      FACT. 25% of young workers employed have been fired at will so what you say is absolute TOSH!
      It’s only THREE for every ONE. And they would probably have been employed anyway.

  8. Ms X 8

    I was under the impression that bosses could always fire people who were performing badly, not at all or behaving extremely badly. How does ‘fire at will’ improve on that? Fair minded bosses will treat workers fairly and those that don’t never will – giving them more ammunition is hardly fair on those with bills to pay.

    • lprent 8.1

      The difference with the “fire at will” act is that they don’t have to be fair about it. For instance telling people why they are being fired.

    • AngryTory 8.2

      You still don’t get it do you?

      Making me keep paying $$$ for people whom I don’t want, who perhaps don’t really want to work for me but just need the money or something, slackers who insist on holiday pay, who won’t work when I need em – – fuck I work evenings & weekends, I don’t expect anyone to do what I wouldn’t have done when I was their age!

      if they can’t hack it, I should have the right to be shot of ’em.

      but not under Hellen.

      • michaeljsavage 8.2.1

        Thaaarnk u moooi looord … jeez your name isnt edmund blackadder is it ….

        Horrible little man – or woman – or reptile …

      • Puddleglum 8.2.2

        You still don’t get it do you AngryTory?

        Do you have any idea at all of the massive social engineering that was required, often at the end of a gun, to provide your forerunners with a mass of ‘willing’ employees? Cleared from their land, legally maneuvered out of their customary rights to live off the land, destruction of their villages, enforced ‘migration’???

        Being able to employ someone today is a ‘privilege’ not a right. It’s a privilege based on the deliberate destruction of the ways of life of the mass of people in history. It’s a privilege based on extensive legal, judicial and policing enforcement of institutions, contracts and arrangements all of which were vigorously and often violently resisted from their beginnings by the majority.

        Don’t ever think that it’s some kind of God-given, natural right you have to pay somebody money and to get their labour (and ‘attitude’) for a day. The only reason most put up with this kind of ‘relationship’ is that they’ve lost the resources, knowledge and power over their circumstances to be able to live differently.

  9. michaeljsavage 9

    this is the end forever of the illusion of NACT as a benign centrist entity … bullshit extreme … they are the old wolf they ever were and worse.

    Even the Farmers have to beware – whats going to be left when they all sell their farms to the chinese and retire to Wanaka … and ensure their children can continue to go to private school and they can drive their lifestyles over the backs of the rest of working NZ

    Shame on all of them who are old enough to know better. I felt sorry for that pimply little ‘young nat’ profiled on “the nation” (more like the whore to whoever thinks whatever) and on Q and A … the programme run by a nasty little man who looks like the bum end of a frustrated prune … he looked like a privileged little twat and came across that way.

    Im happy to be a pallbearer at the national and act governments funeral next year

    • AngryTory 9.1

      Im happy to be a pallbearer at the national and act governments funeral next year

      Geez you & IrishBill will need LOTS of semtex for that to happen.

      Ballot Box & Armalite, Guys? – well you’ll have to stick to the Armalite cos the ballot box ain’t going to elect Labour-Union-Green mates anytime soon – never again if I have anything to do with it!

      IrishBill: just in case you missed it you’re banned for life. Or rather rebanned for life, prophet.

      • michaeljsavage 9.1.1

        See you at the funeral boyo … when the dates set ill send you a condolences card …

        Johnny Black and Tan Key is quoite da best advertisement for votin Labour ooive ever seen me lad……

        ceadh ma fielte

        • The Voice of Reason 9.1.1.1

          Welly band Ourselves Alone used to do a storming version of this ditty, MJS. I think you’ll know it:

          • michaeljsavage 9.1.1.1.1

            Thanks VOR … my great grandfather was virulently anti british and had nothing good to say about the black and tans … my family was both Orange and Green but all lived together here in Godzone.

            My Grand da – sailed a skiff singlehandedly from Awanui in the far north to auckland in the early 1920’s … we come from good irish seafaring stock.

            We should never ever ever forget what and where we come from. The bastards have taken too much already to feed their dark satanic mills as it is….

            Men marched and women and children starved for freedoms … lest we forget …

      • Craig Glen Eden 9.1.2

        ” never again if I have anything to do with it” Sad to inform you Angry Tory but little players are not bigger than the game, so on that note I will raise my dead body over your dead body.

  10. big blouse 10

    I’m a Union Man and I say I what I think – the company stinks.

  11. James 11

    Hows about we get the State out of the way and let the bosses,employees and unions reach agreement between themselves without the hairy arm of State force being able to be used by one party against another….hmmmm?

    • mcflock 11.1

      Because then the worker is undefended against the green hairy arm of capitalist force.

      It would be nice if everyone could sit down and be nice and reasonable. The trouble is that all it takes is one manager to be incompetent and vindictive – a few have been posting on this thread, methinks.

      If one worker is a jerk, the manager can work through fair process and fire them. If one manager is a jerk, 5 staff have to put up with it.

  12. randal 12

    John Keys……tuff guy huh/?

  13. Stephen Franko 13

    Let’s be honest with each other. Key doesnt even want government. He wants to abolish it. And good on him. Keep spinning things, John, and get rid of red tape and regulation.

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  • Counting Barretts
    Just in case you don’t have a seven-year-old boy in your house (in which case this will be obvious) a well-known brand of breakfast cereal here in NZ is currently coming with All-Blacks stats cards. Perfect for finding out your favourite rugby player’s height, number of caps, and how much ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    14 hours ago
  • Bullying their critics
    Over the past month we've heard some horrific stories about bullying in the police. The police's response? Try to bully people into silence:The police have told a whistleblower to retract his statements to RNZ about being bullied or face legal action. The demand came just hours after Police Commissioner Mike ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    17 hours ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 5
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    18 hours ago
  • There is no ‘gendered brain’
    One of the key arguments used by trans ideologists is that some male-bodied people (ie men) are women because they ‘feel’ they are women.  To make this hocus-pocus sound a bit more credible, some will argue that such men have a ‘female brain’.  But this is thoroughly anti-scientific too. . ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    18 hours ago
  • Canada’s electoral system is broken
    Canadians went to the polls today in parliamentary elections, and appear to have re-elected blackface wearer Justin Trudeau. Unfortunately, they use first-past-the-post, and they've provided a perfect demonstration of how unfair this system is:PartySeats% Seats% VoteLiberal15746.4%33.1%Conservative12135.8%34.4%Bloc Québécois329.5%7.7%New Democratic Party247.1%15.9%Green Party30.9%6.5%Other10.3%2.4% [Results from Elections Canada] Yes, the Liberals got fewer votes ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • Measles: the quackery that is homeopathic “vaccination”
    A few days ago, a friend sent me a link to a health-related FB page that had published a post from a homeopathist, offering homeopathic “vaccination”¹ against measles (using something called a “Morbillinum nosode” at a “potency” of 200C, which I’ll explain shortly). I followed the link, left a comment ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    1 day ago
  • Colombia: 20th anniversary of La Gabarra massacre
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh This year marks the 20th anniversary of the La Gabarra massacre. The community organised an event to remember the most well-known of the horrendous heart-breaking events that befell the communities of this area of the municipality of Tibú: the massacre carried out on August 21st 1999. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 day ago
  • A prediction
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: The Zero Carbon Bill
    Just a month ago we saw the biggest protest in a generation as people marched to demand stronger action on climate change. A core demand of the protesters was to strengthen the Zero Carbon Bill's target to net-zero by 2040. So what is the government's response? Judging by the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Zombie ants, updated
    Back in 2010, I wrote about the strange tale of the zombie ants, which do the bidding of their fungal overlords. (They’re not an isolated example; a range of parasites change their hosts’ behaviour. See here and here for example – though as you’ll find, the toxoplasmosis story may be ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    2 days ago
  • Paying For Our Pakeha “Guilt” And “Privilege”.
    Shouldn't That Be: "Wrong White Crowd"? Rather than apportion guilt, would it not have been wiser for the makers of Land Of The Long White Cloud to accept that the Pakeha of 2019 are not – and never will be – “Europeans”? Just as contemporary Maori are not – and ...
    2 days ago
  • A Bodyguard of Truths.
    One, Two, Many Truths: With the collapse of “actually existing socialism” in 1991, the universities of the West found themselves saddled with a new mission. With their ideological competitors now soundly defeated they were no longer required to demonstrate the superiority of capitalist values. Their job now was to cement ...
    2 days ago
  • A call to unionists
    by the Council of Disobedient Women   We call on the Council of Trade Unions to show some fortitude and take a stand with your sisters. Unionists know that there is a material world, otherwise workers could simply identify out of poverty. They could declare themselves Well Paid. Why stop ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Sophistry and bullshit
    I spent some time reading the Regulatory Impact Statement and Bill of Rights Act advice for the government's odious control order scheme today. I am not impressed with either of them. Starting with the RIS, it is built on some pretty questionable assumptions. For example:Unless individuals have been convicted of ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • I’m so fly, I’m #NoFly!
    #NoFly: Walking the talk on climate change, by Shaun Hendy. BWB Texts, 2019. Reviewed by Robert McLachlan In June 2018, Swede Maja Rosén founded We stay on the ground with a pledge not to fly in 2019, and a goal of persuading 100,000 other Swedes to join her. In August, ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • Punishing the young
    We all know that NZ First is a party of and for old people who hate the young. But they've topped their previous pedophobia with a proposal that all young people be forced to do 100 hours community work:NZ First wants all young people to do 100 hours of community ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Journalism, clickbait, & ideas of classical beauty – but not science
    A couple days ago the NZ Herald published a story with the headline, “Science says Bella Hadid is world’s most beautiful woman“, and followed up with the ridiculous statement that Supermodel Bella Hadid has been declared as the world’s most beautiful woman following a scientific study into what constitutes as ...
    SciBlogsBy Alison Campbell
    3 days ago
  • Is Simon’s Smile Sustainable?
    A Sustainable Proposition: With as much as 18 percent of the electorate declaring itself “undecided” about who to vote for, there is obviously plenty of space for a party like former Green Party member, Vernon Tava's, about-to-be-launched "Sustainable NZ Party" to move into. The most hospitable political territory for such ...
    3 days ago
  • What the actual Hell?
    Keir Starmer has hinted that Labour might vote in favour of the Johnson government's shoddy deal, with the proviso that a second referendum is attached:Speaking to BBC One’s The Andrew Marr Show, he said: “We will see what that looks like but it makes sense to say that by whatever ...
    3 days ago
  • Hard News: Dealer’s Choice, an oral history from Planet 1994
    In 1994, I was the editor for an issue of Planet magazine focused on cannabis, its culture and the prospects for the end of its prohibition. Part of that issue was an interview with 'Ringo', an experienced cannabis dealer.I recently posted my essay from that issue, and I figured it ...
    5 days ago
  • The invasion of women’s sports by men: some facts
    Dr Helen Waite, sports sociologist and former elite athlete, on the invasion of women’s sport by men and the anti-scientific and misogynist ideology used to rationalise it.   ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Remainers starting to sound like fascists
    As Brexit comes to a grisly conclusion (perhaps) people on all sides are saying intemperate and uwise things.  Some, like the Daly Mail, have been doing it for years.People as normally level headed as Jon Lansman are calling for automatic deselection of MPs who vote against a (likely) Labour three ...
    5 days ago
  • Labour MPs supporting Johnson’s turd-sandwich deal?
    I find this unbelievable:
    I've got one source saying more Labour MPs than expected are mulling whether to vote for the deal - including names who were not on the letter to Juncker and Tusk— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) 17 October 2019 I've compiled a list of possible reasons why Labour ...
    5 days ago
  • Why do we need control orders again?
    On Wednesday, the government was loudly telling us that it needed to legislate to allow it to impose "control orders" - effectively a parole regime, but imposed without charge, prosecution, conviction or real evidence - on suspected terrorists because they couldn't be prosecuted for their supposed crimes. Today, it turns ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Bullshitting the Minister
    On Monday, the Hit and Run inquiry heard from NZDF's former director of special operations, who claimed that the defence Minister knew everything about the Operation Burnham raid. Today, the inquiry heard from that (former) Minister - and it turns out that he didn't know nearly as much as NZDF ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Speaker: Extinction Rebellion is not a cult (but ecstasy for the people)
    Yoga gurus and cult leaders – I’ve seen a few. Two weeks ago, I unknowingly joined an alleged new-age cult at the Kāpiti coast, together with a giant kraken and some neatly dressed pensioners who would make any book club proud.They were among the two hundred people of all ages ...
    6 days ago
  • We need to bring the police under control
    The last decade has seen a trend of increasing weapons availability to police. Assault rifles. Tasers on every hip. Guns in cars. And following the march 15 massacre, pistols on every hip, all over the country. At the same time, its also seen an increase in the abuse of force: ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • If you can’t measure it, does it exist?
    In the last couple of weeks, I’ve been busy preparing for our summer paper on Science Communication. Looking for something amusing about ‘risk’ in science, I came across this neat xkcd.com cartoon about why so many people come knocking on my door (or phoning me, or emailing me) desperately wanting ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    6 days ago
  • Swinson’s swithering
    Jo Swinson is doing even worse at this Being Sensible lark that I'd thought.  I've just become aware of the following utterance
    .@KayBurley presses Lib Dem leader @joswinson on whether she would agree to a #Brexit deal 'no matter how bad a deal it is' as long as it had ...
    6 days ago
  • Women’s rights, trans ideology and Gramsci’s morbid symptoms
    by John Edmundson The International Socialist Organisation (ISO) have recently reposted a February article, by Romany Tasker-Poland, explaining ISO’s position in the “trans rights” debate.  It is available on their website and on their Facebook Page.  The article sets out to explain why “socialists support trans rights”.  It reads more ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • We need to take guns off police
    Today's IPCA report of police criminality: a police officer unalwfully tasered a fleeing suspect who posed no threat to anyone:The police watchdog has found an officer unlawfully tasered an Auckland man who broke his ankle jumping off a balcony to escape arrest. [...] To avoid arrest, the man jumped over ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • “Bringing kindness back”
    "Auckland City Mission: 10% of Kiwis experiencing food insecurity", RNZ, 16 October 2019:About half a million people are experiencing food insecurity, according to new research from the Auckland City Mission. Food insecurity, or food poverty, is defined as not having enough appropriate food. The City Mission said over the last ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Press Release: “Fake News” from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance b...
    Media Statement for Immediate Release 16th October 2019 “Fake News” from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance bonuses for top managers Despite comments from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance bonuses for top managers—Herald Newspaper Tuesday Oct 15th–there is very little evidence ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    7 days ago
  • Ever-So-Slightly Bonkers: Simon Bridges Plays To His Base.
    Would You Buy A Used Propaganda Video From This Man? Bridges and the National Party’s strategists have discovered that the ideas and attitudes considered acceptable by today’s editors and journalists are no longer enforceable. The rise and rise of the Internet and the social media platforms it spawned means that ...
    7 days ago
  • Asking for food
    There is plenty of evidence of the way the business mentality has permeated every level of society since the recrudescence of market liberalism 35 years ago. You only need to think of how citizens in need of help from their government, their state, their country, are now routinely described as ...
    Opposable ThumbBy Unknown
    7 days ago
  • Forty years of change in the jobs Kiwi do and the places they call home
    John MacCormick Over the last 40 years, New Zealanders – and people in other countries – have experienced big changes in the jobs they do and where they live and work. These changes include: a decline in manufacturing jobs an increase in jobs in ‘information-intensive’ industries (which are better paid ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    7 days ago
  • Protecting Fresh Waterways in Aotearoa/NZ: The Strong Public Health Case
    Nick Wilson, Leah Grout, Mereana Wilson, Anja Mizdrak, Phil Shoemack, Michael Baker Protecting waterways has the benefits of: (1) protecting water from hazardous microbes; (2) minimising cancer risk and other problems from nitrates in water; (3) avoiding algal blooms that are hazardous to health; (4) protecting mahinga kai uses (cultural ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Massey University triggered to rebrand
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In a press release today Massey University announced it has decided to rebrand and reorientate after struggling to be a University for grown-ups. For some time the University has wanted to be a safe play space for wee-woke-misogynists who have been really badly triggered ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Swinson backing calls for a second referendum (again)
    After a brief dalliance with 'hard Revoke' it looks like the Lib Dems are changing ground on on Brexit, with leader Jo Swinson reverting to calling for a second referendum on Johnson's deal.The party has tabled an amendment to the Queen’s speech requesting that any deal brought back from Brussels ...
    1 week ago
  • An odious bill
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • National is now the party of climate arson
    So, Judith Collins has done a Facebook rant about climate change, peddling the same shit National has been shovelling for the past twenty years: the impacts are overstated, there's no need to do anything about it, and its too hard anyway (oh, and its so unfair that people who peddle ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The environmental footprint of electric versus fossil car
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • “Manifest” by Andrew Bird – A Song For The Times.
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    1 week ago
  • Passing the buck
    Last month, NZDF's shoddy coverup of what it knew about civilian casualties in Operation Burnham began to fall apart, with the revelation that a report on the matter, which NZDF claimed not to have, had been sitting in an NZDF safe for the past nine years. Yesterday, the man responsible ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • India a major player in Earth observation satellites
    While many imagine that countries like the USA and Europe dominate space activities, in fact India is now a major player on this stage. It launches satellites for its own purposes and also commercially, and has constellations orbiting our planet and returning data of vital importance to that nation in ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
  • The rot at the top (2).
    Thanks to a report from the Acting Inspector General of Intelligence and Security following a complaint by Nicky Hager, we have come to find out that the SIS illegally spied on Mr. Hager on behalf of the NZDF after publication of Hager’s 2011 book, Other People’s Wars. The NZDF justified ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Common misconceptions about “Global Warming”
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    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    1 week ago
  • A climate of tyranny
    For the past week, Extinction Rebellion has been peacefully protesting in London to demand action on climate change. The British government's response? Ban their protests:Police have banned Extinction Rebellion protests from continuing anywhere in London, as they moved in almost without warning to clear protesters who remained at the movement’s ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Collins crushes climate
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    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    1 week ago
  • More disappointment
    When they were running for election, Labour promised to overhaul the Employment Relations Act and introduce fair pay agreements to set basic pay and conditions on an industry level, preventing bad employers from undercutting good ones. They followed this up by establishing a working group, which reported back in January ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • What do these mother-child studies really say about fluoridation?
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    1 week ago
  • Losing Labour’s Mills-Tone.
    Nothing Left To Say: Labour's pollster, Stephen Mills, remains swaddled-up in the comforting myths of the 1980s. As if the experience of Roger Douglas’s genuinely radical post-Muldoon policy agenda was literally a once-in-a-lifetime thing – as much as the party could possibly absorb for at least the next 50 years.MEMO ...
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Disability and the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse
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    1 week ago
  • Spain is not a democracy
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • UK Conservatives hate democracy
    With an unfair voting system, uneven electorates and an un-elected upper house, the UK's "democracy" is barely worthy of the name. But now the government wants to make it worse:The government has been accused of suppressing voters’ rights with the potential disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of people after plans ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • What is wrong with our building industry?
    Back in the 90's and early 2000's, the building industry was building leaky homes which should never have been granted consent. Now it turns out they've been building dodgy office blocks as well:New imaging technology has revealed hundreds of major buildings nationwide have defective or missing concrete or reinforcing steel. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Local bodies
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A future of government
      How could government evolve over the next decades? Reports of democracy’s imminent demise are greatly exaggerated.  However, satisfaction with political systems in many countries is low, so there is much to do for governments of all political stripes to improve relevance and trust. Digital technologies are seen as one ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    2 weeks ago
  • Speaker: Catalonia, interrupted
    Two years have now gone by since the Friday afternoon when my university-student son and I headed out of our Barcelona flat to a nearby primary school, designated as a polling station for the vote that was to be held the following Sunday: the referendum on Catalonia’s independence from Spain ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Sage Decisions Unwisely Over-Ruled.
    Overruled: The joint decision of Finance Minister, Grant Robertson (Labour) and his Associate Minister, David Parker (Labour) arguably the two most powerful ministers in Jacinda Ardern’s government, to grant OceanaGold the consents which Land Information Minister, Eugenie Sage (Greens) had earlier denied them, offers bitter proof of how hard fighting ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Government may ban voting in effort to get more people to do it
    More than double the number of people who will vote in this year’s local body elections have tried marijuana or urinated somewhere they shouldn’t have. As local elections look set for the lowest turnout in decades, with many regions falling well short of 40%, the Government is exploring a number ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Woman: Deleted.
    A Statement on Abortion Law Reform by the Council of Disobedient Women   On the eve of bringing an end to antiquated, anti-women abortion laws Green MP Jan Logie intends to write women out of the Bill. With a stroke of the pen, the woke are aiming for total erasure ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • The Hollowest of Men Ride Again… SURPRISE!
    Musings continue apace about “the experienced businessman!” soon to be taking up a National Party MP position. Or to be more accurate, being parachuted into a seat to shut down their former MP Jamie-Lee Ross, who despite his own shortcomings shed at least some more light on the inner workings ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • Barbaric
    The Ugandan government wants to murder gay people:Uganda has announced plans to impose the death penalty on homosexuals. The bill, colloquially known as “Kill the Gays” in Uganda, was nullified five years ago on a technicality, but the government said on Thursday it plans to resurrect it within weeks. The ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Is this study legit? 5 questions to ask when reading news stories of medical research
    Hassan Vally, La Trobe University Who doesn’t want to know if drinking that second or third cup of coffee a day will improve your memory, or if sleeping too much increases your risk of a heart attack? We’re invested in staying healthy and many of us are interested in reading ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Fighting Monsters.
    Freedom Of Speech? The Säuberung (cleansing by fire) was the work of the German Student Union which, on 10 May 1933, under the watchful eye of the Nazi Reichminister for Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, consigned 25,000 books to the flames in a ritual exorcism of “un-German thought”. According to the logic of the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The next wave of kaupapa Māori politics: its constitutional, it must be.
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    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Night lights of NZ from orbit
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    2 weeks ago
  • Reporters deliver uplifting news to fleeing Japanese residents: they won’t miss any rugby
    New Zealand’s media is doing its part in Japan, reassuring those in the path of the storm that they won’t miss any rugby while away from their flooded homes. New Zealand sports reporters stationed in Japan for the Rugby World Cup have had the rare and heartwarming opportunity to inform ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Government in contentious discussions about whether to put surplus on red or black
    Regional Development Minister Shane Jones is the only Cabinet member in favour of putting it all on green. As Finance Minister Grant Robertson finds himself with an enormous $7.5 billion surplus, the Government has begun intense, at times contentious conversations about whether to put the money on red or black at ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Jordanian teachers’ successful strike has lessons for here
    by Susanne Kemp At the start of September close to 100,000 school teachers went on strike in Jordan.  They demanded a 50% pay rise.  A pay rise actually agreed to by the regime back in 2014. In early October, however, in the face of government repression and threats, the teachers’ ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Why some people still think climate change isn’t real
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz Why do people still think climate change isn’t real? David ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago

  • Minister of Finance and Sport and Recreation to visit Japan and Vietnam
    Finance Minister Grant Robertson departs tomorrow for events and meetings in Japan and Vietnam.  While in Japan, he will discuss economic and fiscal issues including meeting with the Minister of Finance, Taro Aso, and Minister of Economic and Fiscal Policy, Yasutoshi Nishimura. He will meet with the Minister of Education, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Dashboard tracks housing progress
    The Government’s Housing Dashboard released today confirms record numbers of state houses are under construction and shows the Government build programme is gaining momentum.  “After nine years of inaction, and a hands-off attitude from the previous government we’re starting to see things move in the right direction for housing,” says ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago
  • Ministerial Statement on the International Convention Centre fire
    Mr Speaker, I wish to make a ministerial statement relating to the Auckland fire. The Government is closely monitoring the situation with the fire at the NZ International Convention Centre and is thankful that everyone is now safe. Firefighters are doing an incredible job managing the fire and bringing it ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago
  • Government invests in Te Reo, environmental data research
    The Government is investing in ambitious research that will digitise Te Reo, grow the low-carbon protein efficient aquaculture industry, help interpret environmental trends, and large data sets says Research, Science and Innovation Minister Megan Woods. The four projects range from teaching Siri to speak Te Reo to crunching large environmental ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago
  • Government announces next steps as part of a comprehensive plan to fix skills gap
    A new education-to-employment brokerage service to strengthen connections between local employers and schools. Funding for more trades focused ‘speed-dating’ events to connect schools with employers. Promotional campaign to raise profile of vocational education. The Government is taking action to increase the number of young people taking up vocational education and ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago
  • Corrections Amendment Bill passes third reading
    A Bill to improve prison security and ensure the fair, safe, and humane treatment of people in prison while upholding public safety has passed its third reading. Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis says the Corrections Amendment Bill makes a number of changes to ensure the Corrections Act 2004 is fit for ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Ngāi Tahu CEO appointed to NZ-China Council
    Minister for Māori Development, Nanaia Mahuta, has selected Arihia Bennett MNZM, Chief Executive Officer of Te Rūnanga o Ngāi Tahu, as the Te Puni Kōkiri appointed representative on the New Zealand-China Council. The New Zealand-China Council (the Council) was established in 2012 as a New Zealand led and funded organisation ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Southern Response claims move to EQC
    Responsibility for processing the small number of Southern Response claims still to be settled will be transferred to EQC by the end of the year. “As claim numbers reduce, it no longer makes sense for the Crown to have two organisations processing the remaining Canterbury claims,” Grant Robertson says. “Since ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Bowel screening starts in Whanganui
    Health Minister David Clark is encouraging Whanganui residents to take up the opportunity for free bowel screening, which can detect cancer early when it’s easier to treat.   Over the next two years 12,000 Whanganui locals, aged 60 to 74 will be invited to participate in the National Bowel Screening ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Pacific Peoples Minister to attend Our Ocean Conference in Norway
    Minister for Pacific Peoples Aupito William Sio, heads to Oslo today to represent New Zealand at the sixth Our Ocean Conference, which is being hosted by the Norwegian Government from the 23-24 October. “The Our Ocean Conference mobilises real action on issues like marine plastic pollution and the impacts of ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government announces 27 percent increase in Trades Academy places
    Two secondary-school initiatives are being expanded as part of the Government’s plan to see more young New Zealanders take up a trade to help close the skills gap.   This includes the largest single increase in Trades Academy places in recent years. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Education Minister Chris ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Pacific Futures Conference: Connection...
    Session 4: Pacific Connectivity – Youth, Media and New Opportunities   Kia ora tatou katoa and Warm Pacific greetings to one and all. Representatives of Tainui, the local people of the land, or manawhenua – the indigenous peoples of this area – have welcomed you this morning in accordance with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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