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Kiwiblogblog is not completely dead

Written By: - Date published: 3:36 pm, February 11th, 2011 - 35 comments
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Last week I was moaning about the Department of Internal Affairs processes harvesting our site and causing excessive CPU loads. What annoyed me more than anything else was that the webpage listed was invalid. Normally, I’d have just killed access for the processes to the site as they’re usually spambots. But for a NZ government department I simply redirected all access back to their missing page.

The process turned out to be benign. It was the National Library harvesting websites in the .nz domain for archiving. I was contacted by Gillian Lee, the Electronic Publications Librarian at the Alexander Turnbull Library. This is part of the National Library of New Zealand (which has recently been stuffed back into the DIA*).

But archiving websites is a bloody good idea because the public debate and emerging history of NZ society is shifting more and more into these electronic media. So I asked about one of those political blogs that disappeared from the blogosphere. This was part of the e-mail in response 🙂

FYI we did archive kiwiblogblog a couple of times in 2008 for the general elections and we picked up the complete site, which means content dating back to September 2007 has been captured. The comments were also captured, but not the tags or external links that point to other websites. Those particular websites would have each been archived separately if they were New Zealand blogs.

Archived websites can be viewed via a “link to archived copy” in the catalogue record in the National Library catalogue

So it didn’t disappear unlike some other sites recently. You can use the link or here it is in a frame…

I tried SodBlog, but it doesn’t look like it was captured… Probably a wise thing.

* The National Library has recently been stuffed back into the DIA – something that appears to me to be wrong-headed, silly, and likely to revert the National Library back into the daft heritage losing idiocies that they had under the last national government.

35 comments on “Kiwiblogblog is not completely dead ”

  1. Gosman 1

    How sad. A leftist blog created just because they didn’t like the success of a right wing blog.

    I’m sure it’s demise won’t be missed by many.

    • lprent 1.1

      I think that it was created to puncture the humorless flatulent pomposity of a particular blogger.

      IMHO, it did that rather well. I used to scan it regularly chortling at the spiked humor. I guess you’re just a bit humorless? Unless it involves page 3 style pratfalls without subtlety?

      Unfortunately DPF still pontificates in his traditional style just like any true conservative regardless of how daft he looks. I’ve stopped reading it unless I see a link in comments here. I usually used to look after I saw the ‘analysis’ on kiwiblogblog.


      • higherstandard 1.1.1

        Has anyone ever seen you and DPF in the same room……………

        • lprent

          I don’t think that many people around the blogs have ‘seen’ me at all. I don’t have time to socialize..

          But yes. I went down to one of the meetings in Wellington that Clare Curran organized on the s59 (?) stuff on copyright on the web. DPF was there.

          But I guess that isn’t what you mean. I also tend to not have much time for social blogging either, so mostly I get ‘seen’ when I’m moderating or if I feel irritated enough about write a reply to a comment.

          • toad

            Presume you mean s92A?

            • lprent

              Yep… Thats what it was. It is rare for anything to make me want to travel – that was one of them.

              My head is full of mutex/condition deadlock code at present – have problems remembering names (or legislative clause numbers)

      • Lyn, Jesus wept; I thought it was gone for good. I’ll talk to the bloke who’s idea it was in the first instance, a quite brilliant but determinedly anonymous fella. He’ll chuckle or throw a fit.

        You’re assessment of our motives is spot on. I was part of the writing team, there were 6 or more usually, and our goal was simply to draw attention to and gently mock David’s connections to National. I caught up with David a while back in Sydney. He’s a decent bloke. I don’t share his politics and I think sometimes he whips up stuff unduly for his unpleasant followers… but he’s doing what he believes in and doing it well.

    • Bazar 1.2

      I thought it’d be an interesting read, i was disapointed.

      The most well written post being the farewell, and at least in that regard it ended on a high note.
      The rest was off topic or worse:
      A post condeming Farrah for the opinions expressed by his readers…
      A post criticizing his polling remarks without actually being constructive or factual.
      A post questing Farrah’s sexual orentation

      Thats some mighty fine blogging there. I’m guessing he became a regular poster here at the standard?

      • lprent 1.2.1

        Beats me. I don’t bother to find out who people are. I just read the opinions

      • orange whip? 1.2.2

        If you had read further than the titles you

        a) wouldn’t have found a post about his sexual orientation, but instead one about David’s desire to know about the orientation of others, and

        b) wouldn’t have found a post about the opinions expressed by his readers, but rather one about David reaping what he has sown.

        Too much to ask though I suppose, reading before you comment. Bit transparent.

        • Bazar

          a. Did the post ask abuot his sexual orentation or not? It did, its in the opening topic. Although most of the post goes on about how his poll might not be as anonymous as people belive if Farrah has ill intent. It still questions it.

          Thats not a quality topic is it. There are plenty of ways to word it, but the site used a cheap hack, opening with a question on his sexuality as a stepping stone.

          Quality journalism right there.

          b. Reap what he has sown? What retardation is that.
          He has a blog, people from all aspects of life are welcome to post on it, regardless of if they agree or disagree.
          And hes responsble for the public’s opinions on gay rights, even when it goes against his public opinion?

          I suppose he could fix the issue and take a page from NoRightTurn where he doesn’t allow any comments.
          What if the standard posted a thread suppoting gay rights, and there were people utterly offended, would that prove anything?

          But hey, maybe its just me who didn’t like it, but i have high standards with reporting, as I like what i read to be factual, accurate, on topic…

          • Pascal's bookie

            “kiwiblogblog must comply with Bazar’s standards of journalism!”

            What a dick.

            Given you like things to be factual, I’m shocked, (shocked sir!), that you that you failed to do your basic journalistic homework and work out who was saying what. KBB was a group blog many of the writers were female, and here you writing in such a way as to give the impression that it had a single male author! For shame.

            • Bazar

              Oh wow, so i make a mistake and give the impression that its a single male author.
              That misrepresentation makes me a dick.

              But implying that Farrah is gay, thats ok?
              Or do you also agree that kiwiblogblog is a dickish site?

              Because if you do, thats just fine. If you think i’m a dick, but KBB isn’t. Thats just biased.

              Moving on, there are standards, the sites i respect most are ones that try to be impartial, and don’t take cheap shots for self-gratification.

              The privacy of kiwiblog’s poll for example is worth a post, its an interesting topic. It really is, but it opens with his sexualty called into question. Thats a stupid suggestion.

              Then it points out that the polls are probably just used for entertainment. Fair enough.

              Then goes on about how Farrah can probably be trusted, but that the other posters can’t, and implies they can access your poll data.

              Farrah could, if he wished, be able to work out who voted what. But that would require going into the database manually, which is only accessable by the administrator of a site. IE: Farrah. Guest posters aren’t given such a privileges normally.

              But lets not let small details get in the way of a good story.
              Farrah could be gay, collecting your data, sharing it with everyone.
              MUCH better.

              • Pascal's bookie

                nah, I think you’re a dick because kbb was a blog, and you seem to be judging by the standards one might judge, say, the New York Times. I think that that is a firly dickish thing to do.

                Were kbb’s disgusting and vile tactics any worse than what dpf does on a regular basis? If not, then you might want to think about what they were doing with that.

                You are free not to like it of course, but honestly, why should anyone care?

              • Colonial Viper

                Hey dude I notice you were fair minded and apologised for your error mistaking KBB as the work of a single male author. And also admitted that you may have jumped to some unwarranted conclusions.


          • orange whip?

            i have high standards with reporting, as I like what i read to be factual, accurate, on topic…

            What for? You obviously can’t comprehend any of it anyway.

  2. hobbit 2

    The problem with the standard is mainly the lack of credibility. No disclosure statement, nothing. Just a bunch of far-left wing twits that in reality are ignored. That’s why they have this little blog. God knows who they are. If they’re working for a political party, or a union, for example.

    When you have the guts to put your name next to your dribble, like Farrar does, the sane population might take a little notice. Until the time comes that you will do that, it is just that, dribble.

    • The Voice of Reason 2.1

      I’ll think you’ll find that most authors here aren’t full time bloggers, nor well resourced by rich pricks with an idealogical axe to grind and money to make. Farrar earns a living being His Master’s Voice, hobbit. It’s all about the love at the Standard, nobody’s getting rich round here as far as I know.

      And as for anonymity, I’m guessing it doesn’t say ‘hobbit’ on your passport, pal, so lecture people who value their privacy when you give up your own.

    • Colonial Viper 2.2

      The problem with the Key led National Government is mainly the lack of credibility. No disclosure statement, nothing.

      God knows if they’re working for a political party, foreign corporates, wealthy asset holders or just those on the highest incomes.

      They certainly ain’t working for New Zealand.

    • r0b 2.3

      Tee hee! I love it when RWNJs hang out here obsessively writing to tell us how irrelevant we are. Cheers hobbit!

    • Marty G 2.4

      there is an about page.

      ‘ignored’? well, when you’ve got a blog that’s getting 11-12,000 pageviews a day and about to reach quarter of a million comments, then we’ll talk

      • Roger 2.4.1

        Not only that but people like myself who view this site daily and comment infrequently but then go to work afterwards (with many workmates and members of the public) and share and debate what I have read.

    • Marty G 2.5

      btw, does farrar disclose on his blog that he is national’s pollster and operates out of national hq? Does he disclose the ministry polling jobs he’s had pushed his way?

    • lprent 2.6

      When you have the guts to put your name next to your dribble, like Farrar does, the sane population might take a little notice. Until the time comes that you will do that, it is just that, dribble.

      The name is Lynn Prentice aka lprent. Farrar is a mere squalling child on the networks by my standards, a narcissistic fool. He hasn’t been around long enough to make an impression on anyone important and has a rather pitiful skill set.

      You appear to be a complete fuckwit. Would you like to make a comment on that statement?

    • prism 2.7

      Take it easy, and keep well away from moderating for a while Lynn. No irritation or excitement, hope all the treatment goes well. The medicals turn you out good as new these days, it’s an extreme way to take time out though.

  3. I see that even NewZBlog has been recorded by the powers that be for all posterity!

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