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1. Psycho Milt 1

   26 May 2020 at 9:23 pm

   I didn't think it would be possible to get me to feel sympathy for Paul Goldsmith, but Muller and Kaye have managed it. The poor sod's going to have people taking the piss out of his alleged "Māori" heritage for years to come, and he did nothing to deserve it. I've had bosses who suck, but nothing in that league.
   • mickysavage 1.1

     26 May 2020 at 9:36 pm

     The video from Tova O'Brien tonight is outstandingly funny. It is at https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/05/national-mps-already-leaking-as-new-leadership-team-of-todd-muller-and-nikki-kaye-suffers-disastrous-first-sitting-day.html

     Goldsmith went up in my view. The one thing about him is that he is straight. He is not going to lie.
     • tc 1.1.1

       27 May 2020 at 8:00 am

       Let's revisit that statement on 19th Sept after a campaign.

       A truthful national MP in an election will be eventful.

       Great to see gez back though, what renewal and energy the old woodwork teacher brings.
   • Lettuce 1.2

     27 May 2020 at 2:15 am

     Let's face it, Goldsmith is a pompous knob who deserves to have the piss taken out of him constantly. I've met fence posts with more vibrant personalities.
2. Ad 2

   26 May 2020 at 9:36 pm

   Muller hung himself when he said only last night to Jack Tame "That's just not the lens I evaluate through", then the next morning reversed on the whole premise of colour-blind merit with watercolouring Goldsmith in Sienna.

   Tim Hurdle should know better.
   • Rapunzel 2.1

     27 May 2020 at 8:47 am

     #todduller used this exact phrase again "That's just not the lens I evaluate through" on the Campbell interview on Breakfast this morning
     • I Feel Love 2.1.1

       27 May 2020 at 8:59 am

       That is the big gaping gap, those that can't see what is wrong with the All Whites, and those that understand NZ is not a white only country. Also that assumption that the line up is based on merit, out of 55 people the best 12 are all white. And yet they will still look at you like stunned mullets, they still don't get it.
       • Rapunzel 2.1.1.1

         27 May 2020 at 12:40 pm

         It looks to me that a lot of #toddluxon's rhetoric is born of an old fashioned paternalism that colours all he does & it also underpins his personal religious beliefs. Having been on both sides of the fence some business people are very similar which is part of why the National Party obsession with channelling people's incomes through the "businesses". Although many businesses will distribute the money I believe they would rather do that under the perception it is them providing the income & not the govt. It's mental thing & National's way of doing things reassures some fragile businesses owners they are still in control of staff & the doling out of wages as it removes from sight the fact that they are also beneficiaries in these circumstances the country has
3. Anne 3

   26 May 2020 at 10:39 pm

   I want to know the story on Paul Goldsmith's great great grandfather. It sounds very interesting. 😯
   • Cinny 3.1

     27 May 2020 at 8:12 am

     Hehehe same Anne 🙂 Like how many wives did he have and was that all at once etc?
     • Tricledrown 3.1.1

       27 May 2020 at 8:20 am

       Was he a Mormon
4. Robert Guyton 4

   27 May 2020 at 6:39 am

   Paula Bennett's looking gleeful! Somebody's leaking caucus details and the focus is the whiteness of the top-tier faces. I reckon the National Party's got Brown Rot and if you've ever had that in your peach-crop, you'll know it's devastating!
   • Bruce 4.1

     27 May 2020 at 7:14 am

     Maureen Pugh who voted for Todd went down a place on the list, I assume when they put Simon at number 6 or 7 on his return (as they have to now due to diversity) she will go down 2. She will not be happy. Todd cannot give all those who voted for him what he promised. We see they didn't vote for him on talent or ability now. I would say if a vote in caucus were taken today, that majority of 1 would swing the other way. He has real issues. He may not make it to September 19th.
     • Stephen D 4.1.1

       27 May 2020 at 9:58 am

       Mitchell at 9.

       Will he be happy with that?
   • patricia 4.2

     27 May 2020 at 7:19 am

     Robert, I thought some sever pruning might be in order. especially the wooden bits.
     • Robert Guyton 4.2.1

       27 May 2020 at 7:24 am

       They did that already, Patricia, only they forgot to paste the cuts and remove the prunings to the fire. Leaving that stuff lying around causes the spores to spread like a plague and infect everything
       • patricia 4.2.1.1

         27 May 2020 at 7:25 am

         That is inexperience of course.
5. Bazza64 5

   27 May 2020 at 7:46 am

   Todd will have to up his game, he looks like a stunned mullet in the headlights a lot of the time. Simon will be happy with current developments & maybe some Nats will regret the change of leader now.
6. Tricledrown 6

   27 May 2020 at 7:59 am

   Todd muler nightwatchman (cricket) lower order batsman struggles fails to bat away criticism.
   • tc 6.1

     27 May 2020 at 8:20 am

     Nice anology.

     Were will he end up in next innings batting order I wonder as they're not leaving the crease for awhile.
   • Spiderman3 6.2

     27 May 2020 at 9:22 am

     Very good analogy! Will Todd stay even until after the election?
7. Robert Guyton 7

   27 May 2020 at 8:07 am

   Funny! "Ngati Epsom". Speaker Mallard managed the mirthy situation well.

   https://play.stuff.co.nz/details/_6159136285001
   • mickysavage 7.1

     27 May 2020 at 8:48 am

     Jones followed Goldsmith in the Budget debate and started by saying:

     Ko te Sky Tower taku whare

     Ko Ngati Epsom taku marae

     Ko Mangere Sewerage Ponds taku moana

     Ko Paora Toku Ingoa

     He is a lot of things but occasionally he is very funny!
8. observer 8

   27 May 2020 at 8:50 am

   Muller is facing an age-old problem in politics: the credibility gap between something everyone knows is true, and the thing he wants to pretend.

   Everyone knows he rolled Bridges to save National MPs' jobs. That's not a partisan "leftie" assertion, that's stating the bleedin' obvious. Those polling numbers finished Bridges off.

   Muller can't say that (or so he feels). So he has to go on about something else, in his case the great economic plan. Which may or may not exist, but in any event, is not the reason he became leader. Nobody was saying "let's replace Paul Goldsmith with Paul Goldsmith".

   John Campbell simply pointed out this basic truth in the interview, and Muller had nothing.
   • observer 8.1

     27 May 2020 at 9:51 am

     To follow up, having seen the TV3 interview he did better there than TV1. He certainly did better than the idiot Ryan Bridge who asked "is there anything wrong with being white?"(eye roll). Mediaworks are sacking the wrong people.
9. Anker 9

   27 May 2020 at 9:18 am

   I think the most likely outcome of this is a catastrophic election result. Muller set himself and his team up to be more competent team eg with the Other team= 17 Empty-chairs. Yesterday (only 4days after he was elected) they look like bumbling fools. As Mike H would say “happy days”

   ps I saw a headline last night sawing national and greens critical of two tier benefit system. WTF? Radical policy change for national as Simon was shouting early on in the crisis that Labour was throwing money at beneficiaries. Oh and it turns out the Covid job loss payment was what National did after the Chechen earthquake. Are National back to barking at cars?
10. te reo putake 10

    27 May 2020 at 9:50 am

    It's a little known fact that Paul Goldsmith was once an actor on Seinfeld:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIgnscRz6Q
11. clare 11

    27 May 2020 at 10:26 am

    " hoping and preying "

    sounds like the Nats. i'm praying that they stay that way
12. Anker 12

    27 May 2020 at 10:34 am

    Te reo uptake lmao +++

    so many laughs to be had at the moment. At least National are delivering on that
13. Brutus Iscariot 13

    27 May 2020 at 2:10 pm

    He's allowed to identify as whatever he likes according to the modern conventions, particularly if there is a familial Maori connection.

    Would you be bagging him if he claimed to be female?
    • I Feel Love 13.1

      27 May 2020 at 2:45 pm

      Ahh, you've got it wrong Brutus, maybe look at the story again, Kaye and Muller claimed Goldsmith is Māori, not Goldsmith.
      • observer 13.1.1

        27 May 2020 at 3:03 pm

        He's allowed to identify as whatever he likes.

        He has dysfunctional family connections to National, but now identifies as ACT.
14. Molly 14

    27 May 2020 at 4:52 pm

    The discussion relating to Māori ancestry is a waste of time, even though it has provided a wealth of levity here and in the media.

    If you are talking about Māori representation, ancestry doesn't denote an accompanying Te Ao Māori.

    If you are talking about experience of institutional racism or double standards then knowledge of Te Ao Māori without Māori ancestry will most likely be second hand.

    Neither Simon Bridges nor Paula Bennett used their position as MP's to facilitate understanding or cooperation with the Māori world view. Their ancestry contributed little in that regard.

    I don't care about Goldsmith or Kaye's ancestry. What I would care about is their regard to meet the obligations of the Treaty. That is true of all representatives, and how they stand in terms of the conflict of the current workings of the government and Te Ao Māori. It's a pity that we don't know this about all our MPs.

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