Labour conference 2013 – day two

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1. Peter Wilson 1

   2 November 2013 at 10:20 am

   Nigel Haworth
   • lprent 1.1

     2 November 2013 at 10:38 am

     Thanks.. I lost the card and I have a bit of a name dyslexia.
2. Ad 2

   2 November 2013 at 10:38 am

   Haworth has a light and competent touch.

   Productivity is high; we are cracking through it.
3. mickysavage 3

   2 November 2013 at 10:41 am

   There are a few tweets suggesting that the conference has voted down the requirement that 100% of ECE teachers be trained. My clear impression is that the vote was not to include this policy in the statement of general principles as this was an inappropriate place for the policy to be recorded.

   I sense no desire for this not to be policy however.
4. Papa Tuanuku 4

   2 November 2013 at 10:47 am

   the maori vice pres speeches are not worthy of comment?
   • greywarbler 4.1

     2 November 2013 at 12:14 pm

     PT This is just a basic mention of what’s happening. The Maori Vice President has been mentioned! Further information later, in full on-line hopefully.

     Attention was bound to be distracted by particular emotional flag-bearers like breast feeding, and ECE teachers.
5. Ad 5

   2 November 2013 at 10:55 am

   OMG breast feeding are you kidding me this is exactly the nonsense that ZB punters will have a field day with. Stupid no matter how worthy.
   • Zorr 5.1

     2 November 2013 at 11:11 am

     Because the ZB punters are likely to ever vote for Labour anyway?

     Why should we care what those misogynistic knuckle draggers think about womens rights anyway? “Breast feeding? OMG it has to do with boobs!!!”
6. Ad 6

   2 November 2013 at 11:55 am

   “Internet access is a right”
   Carried.

   Really solid stuff – excellent
   • Draco T Bastard 6.1

     2 November 2013 at 12:07 pm

     That is excellent news. The internet has become to important in the modern era for people to be denied access to it.
     • TheContrarian 6.1.1

       2 November 2013 at 12:47 pm

       Access to the internet is vitally important in my opinion.
   • Bill 6.2

     2 November 2013 at 1:48 pm

     You got the exact wording to hand? As discussed elsewhere, ‘access’ means 5/8ths of fuck all if it merely means that libraries or other public spaces will have internet access. What is needed is access from the home. That would mean a computer in every home and an end to kids of poorer families being effectively cut off from internet avenues to learning that richer people just take for granted.
     • Draco T Bastard 6.2.1

       2 November 2013 at 1:58 pm

       Good point Bill. I know a few years ago Labour were talking on RA about giving kids iPads. I pointed out that a Android device would be cheaper and just as effective. I’ve also pointed out that getting a computer in to every home wouldn’t cost that much either.
     • greywarbler 6.2.2

       2 November 2013 at 5:14 pm

       Bill
       Talking a bout computers in libraries. You have to request time. And sometimes you would be waiting to use it while school-boys stare at pictures of naked women. Or that’s what flashed before my eyes when I passed one the other day.

       So at home there would be a chance that the computer would be available swopped between the users, and monitored for not too many educational externalities. And the ones at the library are also used by visitors from out of town, much to the chagrin of internet cafes nearby. But there is a time limit. Seems a bit mad though if they get the use free.
   • QoT 6.3

     2 November 2013 at 11:07 pm

     I simply must point out the slight irony of back-to-back “breastfeeding is an issue which the punters will have a field day with” and “internet access is a right – excellent” comments. I don’t know the exact content of the remits, but I’m pretty sure that there are large numbers of people for whom breastfeeding is a rather higher priority than internet access.

     And while a few righties like David Farrar are fairly liberal on the subject of internet access, online privacy and broadband, there are plenty of pig-headed commentators who can just as easily make it an illustration of “out-of-touch Wellington bubble politicians forcing their identity politics on all of us”.
7. Jacqui 7

   2 November 2013 at 12:08 pm

   Scroll right down to the bottom of the page here: https://www.labourparty.org.nz/conference-2013
8. Jim Nald 8

   2 November 2013 at 1:08 pm

   I know we are focusing on the second day but astrological readings from a feng shui master says the climax of Labour’s conference tomorrow will be an auspicious day heralding the rise of those in opposition benches eclipsing those in government 😛
   • greywarbler 8.1

     2 November 2013 at 7:07 pm

     Hi Jim
     It’s good to hear the auspicious expectations for tomorrow may exceed today’s.
9. Ad 9

   2 November 2013 at 1:51 pm

   Helen Kelly next. Hopefully not another hour about grisly industrial accidents.
   • Ad 9.1

     2 November 2013 at 2:14 pm

     God it’s so worthy it’s like being force fed dry muesli.
10. Ad 10

    2 November 2013 at 2:40 pm

    Goran Roos was absolutely excellent; practical, seeking value added wealth, clear about the role of government in a small state.
    • Tat Loo (CV) 10.1

      2 November 2013 at 3:05 pm

      Roos was good but the specific ideas he presented were well understood 10-15 years ago, and in some ways Sutch had a clearer vision for NZ 40 years ago.

      A solid starting point though.
      • Ad 10.1.1

        2 November 2013 at 3:13 pm

        Yes but we don’t have a Sutch here anymore
11. Jim Nald 11

    2 November 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Btw, what is Clare Curran up to these days? Is she at conference? It’s Labour Party’s big day of the year with their annual conference and Red Alert is still stuck on Gerry Brownlee and the right to know on 15 October 2013. Is the lack of postings keeping curran with Labour Party events a joke or a subtle message of some kind?
    • Ad 11.1

      2 November 2013 at 3:12 pm

      Oh she’s here; ghosts of the civil undead
      • Jim Nald 11.1.1

        2 November 2013 at 3:23 pm

        Maybe that website should be renamed, perhaps something like ‘Red Desert’?
    • Rhinocrates 11.2

      2 November 2013 at 6:22 pm

      It’s spring, so if someone’s kept up on her watering, she’s probably starting to bud or flower. Watch out for your allergies.
    • lprent 11.3

      2 November 2013 at 8:13 pm

      She is at conference. I haven’t looked at red alert for a while. Quite a while.
      • Anne 11.3.1

        2 November 2013 at 9:03 pm

        Red Alert never did acknowledge there was a change of leader. To all intents and purposes Shearer is still in charge. 😀

        edit: No disrespect to Shearer intended.
12. Ad 12

    2 November 2013 at 3:42 pm

    DC is on fire

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