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Le Matte Juste: More resignations!

Written By: - Date published: 12:05 pm, August 8th, 2017 - 70 comments
Categories: election 2017, greens, Metiria Turei - Tags: ,

Matthew Whitehead cross-posted from lemattjuste.wordpress.com


Wow, what is up with this election, right?

David Clendon and Kennedy Graham last night attempted to force Metiria Turei’s resignation as female co-leader of the Green Party by saying they would quit if she didn’t, and their bluff has been called. James Shaw has since addressed the issue, and confirmed that he will be seeking to have them both removed from the Green Caucus, (for actions bringing the party into disrepute- as I have said elsewhere, Green MPs aren’t supposed to engineer leadership spills, and the party actually takes good behaviour rather seriously) although he will most likely not seek to remove them as MPs and replace them given how little time is left in this sitting of Parliament.

What this means in practice is that they will be removed from the Green Party List for the coming election, likely confirming Hayley Holt and Teal Crossen1 as MPs if the party holds ground on its average performance in polls, and possibly even Teanu Tuiono and Leilani Tamu as well, if it achieves its maximum bound to date. These are all excellent candidates who deserved to be further up the list, so in terms of political impact, it would be like Clare Curran doing the same thing in the Labour Party2. Teall can easily fill Kennedy Graham’s shoes in the Green caucus, so all they need to do is get sixteen seats (2 more) to make sure they’ve got someone with comparable mana to speak on climate issues and negotiations. I see this as the most likely interna cause of movement in upcoming polling of Green Party support, (continued coverage of Metiria may cause movement, but if anything it’s likely to increase support to the Greens, and a resurgence of Labour support may tempt some soft Greens support away in the polls) but I don’t know if we’ll actually see any dips because of this.

To clarify what’s going on here a little now that things are clearer, their objection was apparently related to Turei’s having been signed up in the wrong electorate and her refusal to resign after a weeks-long media beat up that has refused to dent Party support, not simply to her admission about her actions while on a benefit, as they were part of the decision to tell that story publicly, and that decision was made with consensus within the Green caucus. (ie. everyone agreed to support the decision) How one reconciles that initial decision with creating a perception of instability for the Greens with this late resignation is something I personally find baffling, but apparently they think there is some world in which that makes sense, and they are taking a principled stand by saying it’s wrong to withold information from the government, even though Metiria has very publicly admitted the very same thing to the media several times.

This strikes me as a rather good example of making a mountain out of a molehill. These were actions that, while technically a crime and rather stupid, came before she became an MP, and that two successive Prime Ministers haven’t been punished for performing because it’s the long-standing policy of the Electoral commission that you live where you bloody well say you do, so long as you can answer mail there. Nobody was actually taking seriously the possibility of dissension within Caucus until these two went to the media, and it doesn’t seem like they had actually made the leadership team adequately aware of their concerns, as nobody seems to have been aware that they weren’t fully onside.

These are people who served our country well as MPs to date, both performing well above average, but if they can’t stand by someone whose personal story has finally given us a real and honest conversation about poverty and the welfare system in New Zealand, then they needed to go, especially if they can’t respect the way that things are done within the Green Party, and can’t have an open and honest conversation about their problems. Metiria won’t resign unless she believes that she’s done her dash, Greens don’t do leadership coups or engineering resignations, and it’s appropriate for both men to not only stand down from the campaign, but be ejected from Caucus and even to potentially be kicked out of the party altogether given their breach of normal process.

1 The new Green Party list will likely be as follows, sticking to the top 20, as no poll thus far has suggested the Greens will break that particular milestone just yet. Note that at least 15 MPs are likely if the Greens hold ground, and as many as 18 are possible if the party achieves its highest results from current polling.

  1. Metiria Turei (Te Tai Tonga)
  2. James Shaw (Wellington Central)
  3. ​Marama Davidson (Tamaki Makaurau)
  4. Julie Anne Genter (Mt Albert)
  5. ​Eugenie Sage (Port Hills)
  6. Gareth Hughes (East Coast)
  7. Jan Logie (Mana)
  8. Chlöe Swarbrick (Maungakiekie)
  9. Golriz Ghahraman (Te Atatu)
  10. Mojo Mathers (Rangitata)
  11. Barry Coates (Epsom)
  12. Jack McDonald (Te Tai Hauauru)
  13. John Hart (Wairarapa)
  14. Denise Roche (Auckland Central)
  15. Hayley Holt (Helensville)
  16. Teall Crossen (Rongotai)
  17. Teanau Tuiono (Manurewa)
  18. Leilani Tamu (New Lynn)
  19. Matt Lawrey (Nelson)
  20. Chris Perley (Tukituki)

David vacates 16th position and the Northland electorate campaign while Kennedy vacates 8th and the North Shore campaign. I’ve also provided links to candidate pages for those people who have been bumped up two ranks by these resignations. If you’d like more info about the new top 14, or about people beyond rank 20, you can see the official page on the 2017 Green Party List.

2 Well, at least in the case of David Clendon, who has no significant public profile. Actually it’s a little unfair of a comparison even then, because Clendon is obviously more competent than Curran. Kennedy Graham was, essentially, the solid backbencher that gets down and does a lot of good work and has valuable expertise in a party that is currently over-stuffed full of front-bench level talent. He would have been a valuable MP if he could have acted with more honour, but given he pulled this stunt, he’s not worth having in the caucus.

70 comments on “Le Matte Juste: More resignations! ”

  1. Dorothy 1

    It was Metiria who pulled the stunt. so —–
    Please stand down from the leadership of the Green Party
    for the good of the Green Party.

    • weka 1.1

      She’s getting massive amounts of support from the party, members, GP supporters and voters.

      • dukeofurl 1.1.1

        Ever heard of the echo chamber ?

        She had 100% support from her caucus too until they were asked.

        • weka 1.1.1.1

          That doesn’t make sense.

        • weka 1.1.1.2

          If paying more attention to your support base than people who don’t vote for you is an echo chamber, sure. I still don’t get why people who don’t vote Green think they’re entitled to tell the Greens what to do.

          • Matthew Whitehead 1.1.1.2.1

            Well, they will be entitled to a bit more input than usual if the Greens become part of the government, (as unlike the opposition, the government is theoretically accountable to the people) but yes, it is a bit bizarre.

            It would be like me saying that National should sack Bennett, Collins, Smith, and Brownlee because they’re all incredibly unpopular nationally when you consider people who aren’t National supporters. That’s not how politics or government works.

          • Venezia 1.1.1.2.2

            Weka..+1

          • Johan 1.1.1.2.3

            How many so called Green supporters will phone or text in, saying that they will withdraw their support from this political party?
            First, let them give their name and make known their affiliation, no doubt these agitators are all right wing supporters.

          • Cynical jester 1.1.1.2.4

            +1000

    • Again, you seem to have missed the point that before Metiria Turei’s speech at the Green AGM, she actually put this issue to the entire Green Caucus, (as they do with most political strategy) and there was a consensus that her political strategy was sound and that people were comfortable with her making that admission so long as they were allowed to say that they think welfare fraud is wrong. (which even Turei herself has admitted)

      Which is to say that both Kennedy and David backed her initial admission of lying to WINZ. If your problem was the initial admission, then you’re essentially disagreeing with the entire Green Party, not just Turei, because whoever replaced her would be just as keen on the same policies to address poverty, and would be just as likely to refuse to condemn what Turei did, and all 11 other caucus members are behind her, as is literally every Green member I know.

    • esoteric pineapples 1.3

      Please stay for the good of the party

    • Aaron 1.4

      I see the Narional Party Social Media Team is on a quick-response setting for this issue. You can judge their success by how much of the comments section is taken up with responses to their baiting

  2. Brutus Iscariot 2

    Before the race baiting comes out, i’d like to point out that Clendon is actually Maori.

    These are guys that have served the environmental and pacificist movements for decades, it seems ungrateful to see a bunch of millenials go feral on them.

    • A worthwhile point to make. I saw some people decrying this as two white men attacking Metiria, which is a little ignorant, but I don’t entirely blame people because virtually nobody knows anything about Clendon. It’s two old men attacking Metiria though, so not entirely off the mark I suppose.

      Also, for someone who’s talking out against race-baiting and honouring people’s mana, you’re painting millennials with an awfully large brush. I’m a millenial, and I hope my take didn’t seem particularly feral. The only person I’ve actually seen step rhetorically out of line was one of the young-greens co-convenors, who probably shouldn’t have told them both to “f— off,” but I can absolutely sympathise (and even agree with) the depth of feeling there. My initial reaction was similar, I simply phrased it with a more mild “I hope the door doesn’t hit them on the way out.”

      • McFlock 2.1.1

        I’m sure that the two conservative-greens were as offended by the bad language as they were by someone putting down the wrong electoral address so they could vote for McGillicuddy Serious, lol

      • Keepcalmcarryon 2.1.2

        It’s been eye opening seeing what some regular posters really think when they are upset. Painting this as some sort of male failing just makes (those) green supporters look out of touch with reality and adds to the greens current poor public showing.
        Rapid descent in to identity politics is bad form.
        My opinion of Metiria has fallen over this, although James Shaw has fronted well.
        I’m not a regular green voter and certainly won’t be any time soon despite liking many of their policies.
        It’s the greens business whether or not to keep Metiria as co leader, just as it’s their business whether they more interested in listening to the sound of their own voices than what voters think.
        Hope it plays out for them, don’t think they are on a winner.

        • Well, I think it was more coming from a place where people were feeling like saying “look, two old men are not likely to be particularly in touch with the realities of being a single mother, so they should be a lot more careful before the criticise.”

          Twitter in particular, where a lot of this discussion was had, tends to get a bit feral because it’s hard to express nuance and depth of feeling within that character limit unless you thread together responses.

          We’ll see how the latest stuff plays out, but unless there’s a dramatic crash in support or a continued increase, it will be hard to tease out “people leaving the Greens because of the resignations of Clendon and Graham” vs “people leaving the Greens because of Ardern’s new Labour Party.”

      • RedLogix 2.1.3

        It’s two old men attacking Metiria though, so not entirely off the mark I suppose.

        As are Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn.

        These casual, thoughtless ageist cracks that are being scattered around quite a bit lately, aren’t usually worth making a fuss about, but they’re unhelpful and irksome all the same.

        Besides once you’ve defined your elders as your enemies, you’re betting on the expectation you never grow to their age yourself.

        • Planet Earth 2.1.3.1

          Well put!

        • Come on, do you really think it’s unfair to say that two men who grew up in a time before single mothers became a demographic might find it hard to understand what it’s like for a single mother on the benefit, and to correctly work out the moral calculus of Metiria’s situation?

          I’m not intending to define the older generation as categorically my enemy nor making ageist remarks. (I’m sure you’ll remember from my earlier comments on TS that in fact I am right behind both Corbyn and Sanders, especially against allegations that Sanders is in any way a sexist) What I was trying to get at is that it’s not unreasonable to see Kennedy and David within the framing of men of an older generation who don’t understand what life is like for single-parent families, a criticism that is not entirely unreasonable. (It may be unfounded on closer evaluation, but this criticism was largely coming from people whose association with the Green Party was pretty casual at best, so I wouldn’t have expected them to look into things that closely)

          • Rob 2.1.3.2.1

            Well, I am a middle aged married white male who has some thoughts on Metiria, now watch me as I shut my fucking face.

            • In Vino 2.1.3.2.1.1

              Sorry, I missed it. Can you do it again, please?
              I am 70.
              I am disgusted at the faux moralising by rednecks howling for Turei’s crucifixion.

          • RedLogix 2.1.3.2.2

            Come on, do you really think it’s unfair to say that two men who grew up in a time before single mothers became a demographic might find it hard to understand what it’s like for a single mother on the benefit, and to correctly work out the moral calculus of Metiria’s situation?

            My own father who is the other side of 90 correctly works it out. There is nothing especially ‘new’ about single/un-wed mothers.

            • Matthew Whitehead 2.1.3.2.2.1

              I agree that’s how it should be viewed, but among the good guys who don’t lean on their age as an excuse there are of course occassional dinosaurs and I can understand why people drew that conclusion based purely on “optics.” It’s not necessary right (in fact, I suspect in Graham’s case it was actually more about some very distinct moral reasoning that he shares with his more right-wing family members that immoral acts don’t have moral contexts and are simply inherently wrong or right, with no utilitarian calculus to be performed, and that MPs have to be “above that” sort of thing and very clear in advocating that type of morality. Which I view as a little bit holier-than-thou, but could have easily respected if he had gone through the normal Party processes to express his concern rather than rushing straight to the media)

    • greywarshark 2.2

      The point is that now that it is time to actually care about people close up and personal, they reveal their main preoccupation is the environment – the trees and not the huggers – and apparently pacificism which is to reduce war which is a way of devastating the environment and the people.

      The problem is that they had little empathy with a woman’s struggle to get training and a job that she could do lifelong and which would support her, is at the nub of this matter. For Maori the call is He tangata, he tangata, he tangata and for the environmentalist it is to care for and nurture all of the earth and its creatures, including human unmarried mothers.

  3. 44 south 3

    May I suggest that everyone who is so supportive of this woman and her criticism of the current social welfare system, read the latest post by James Kunstler at Klusterfuck Nation.
    The last three sentences will do if your pressed for time.
    The future you’re all hoping for,is not the one that’s coming.
    It’s time to WAKE UP!

    • McFlock 3.1

      Dude, you couldn’t even paste three sentences?

    • I’ll save you all time- don’t read that post, it’s economically illiterate, (doesn’t understand how national debt works) bunker-mentality, (literally- he at one point says not to live in cities, you’ll be in trouble “when civilization collapses”) and that “last three sentences” bit is referring directly to some dogwhistled bene-bashing.

      If you do hate yourself though, feel free to visit http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/just-wait-little/ and gouge out your eyeballs all you want.

      edit: or, for those who just want the “critical three sentences”:

      Keep in mind that being in this world actually entitles you to nothing. One way or another, you’ll have to earn everything worth having, including self-respect and your next meal.

      Now, just wait a little while.

      That blog is a very unkind thing to inflict upon people just because you disagree with their choice of political leader. 😉

      • McFlock 3.2.1

        lols

        So on top of everything else, we’re all dooooooommmeedd!!!!! 🙂

      • Psycho Milt 3.2.2

        My God, he’s right! All these “useless eaters,” these “lives unworthy of life” who aren’t out there earning their next meal – something must be done about it!

      • adam 3.2.3

        My question always is the same to people who rant on about the world owes you nothing. Then why do you not fight harder to remove inheritance? Que – I make no sense – 123…

        • You mean cue people saying you make no sense? I’m pretty sure you’re conflating “cue,” which as a noun means “a prompt or excitation to action” with “queue,” which means “a line formed for the purpose of waiting.” Naturally they both come in both noun and verb forms, and mixing the spellings of both together.

          But yes, it’s quite frankly astounding that people who claim to support equality of opportunity and want to remove entitlements are also strangely reluctant to take a hard line on making inherited wealth illegal. If you believe in equality of opportunity, any inherited wealth at all is a problem.

          • McFlock 3.2.3.1.1

            looks more like Fawlty towers/mcSpañol to me…

            • Matthew Whitehead 3.2.3.1.1.1

              Yeah it did look a little like spanglish at first, but think about it, “queue” and “cue” are homophones, so like “wouldn’t’ve” and “wouldn’t of,” (which are near-homophones) they’ll end up being confused. So it was likely an attempt to write “cue” that ended up confusing it with “queue” compounded by not realising how ridiculously we spell the word “queue” in the English language when actually it should be something more like “kyu.”

              • In Vino

                I would just add that ‘wouldn’t of’ is a barbarism and solecism that should be exterminated. Bring back the Grammar Daleks!

  4. The Lone Haranguer 4

    It seems that the whole caucus was happy with the original strategy to “fess up” to get mileage around the poverty trap.

    My reading of things (possibly wrong) is that the latter stuff that appeared in the paper around the electoral voting and mum being in the house (not sure why the latter was bad tho) may not have been discussed, and its that information which tipped the two MPs over.

    I understand why the GP supporters are unhappy with the two men, but Im pretty disappointed to see that the GP membership/supporters/MPs are as feral as all the other parties.

    I guess they were just better at hiding their disagreements

    • weka 4.1

      I’ve seen a few comments go hard against the two MPs but I’ve also seen more comments telling people to not be mean. Haven’t been on FB though. So not really sure what you mean. People will have opinions to express, that’s not a problem in an election.

      • Dennis Frank 4.1.1

        I didn’t see the post-caucus press conference, but a commentator on RNZ an hour ago shared impressions. Apparently the caucus decided not to expel them from the party, or even from caucus. The framing was that they agreed to withdraw from caucus till the election. The female co-convenor who was publicly derogatory to the two guys was made to apologise. Seems like all the players had cooled down sufficiently to try & patch up a compromise, and if it holds, that will be an outcome that limits the damage to the public standing of the GP.

      • billmurray 4.1.2

        weka 1.39pm
        I have never made a adverse comment about Metiras admitted benefit fraud, but the msm including tv and radio have ( readers, viewers and listeners ).
        Imo the forthcoming polls will down her as they did to Andrew.
        In the mean time I believe her continued refusal to step down shows a arrogance ( it is not bravery ) which will cause serious damage to the Greens and the left block.
        We all have to wait and see, but by then her resignation could be to late to save the day.

        • Anne 4.1.2.1

          Yes, billy-boy we know your views. 🙄

          • billmurray 4.1.2.1.1

            Anne 3.41pm.
            A Pound to a shilling they will become a fact.
            Don’t not how to do the smiley face.
            All the best.

            • Matthew Whitehead 4.1.2.1.1.1

              They won’t, as Turei just said today in response to a hypothetical 8% polling and whether she would resign then that she is definitely not resigning before the election.

              • weka

                It’s really interesting to watch, the Greens just sticking to their kaupapa and Turei refusing to resign just because some media numpties think the received wisdom is it’s time for her to stand down.

                Even after all this time they still don’t get it that the Greens do politics differently 😆

            • Stuart Munro 4.1.2.1.1.2

              Meteria has guts. She’ll still be there when you’re not even a bad memory.

          • reason 4.1.2.1.2

            Yes Anne,…. we are not getting hundreds or even dozens of posters calling for Metirias resignation ….

            Just Bill Murray the ugly face of Labour ….. posting obsessivly and trying to do the job of dozens ……. hunting with the trolls

            And creating an impression only of himself…..

            Has Bill M ever called for Bill english to resign over his falsifications and scamming $32,000 in accomdiation allowances ?….

            After all Englis and his “Greed” crime is much worse than a solo parents and their ‘need’ crime.

            • Anne 4.1.2.1.2.1

              Billy’s not Labour reason. I think he has claimed here in the past that he is… he isn’t. If he ever was Labour I’m picking his intolerant, reactionary attitude caused him to be isolated to the point where he had no choice but to leave.

              • reason

                My bad Anne ….. I formed the wrong impression when he was proclaiming the inside word for Labours ‘head office’ … in one of his posts.

                I sometimes mix up the unpleasant types/trolls … Bill reminded me of some other Labour bad apples I once disagreed with in a ‘Hone’ thread …. regarding the co-operation … at the last election ….. between National, Labour, Simon Lusk, Act, Nz first etc…… to get Hone out of parliament.

                Last election Labour levereged another attack on a social justice politician…. it was probably national voters that got Kelvin Davis elected.

                Feed the kids ??? nah …. lets all get Hone….

                This feels the same to me …… and its notable this elections .. the target is the only party that did not join in the politcal mugging and underhand games used against Hone.

    • You can’t help what your supporters do, you can only tell them to be better and show them the way. If you want to see what Greens behave like, look at the caucus and look at Party members. There were one or two party members that could have expressed themselves more cleanly, but I didn’t see anyone I actually knew was a party member getting anything near “feral.”

      The only one I objected to was the comment by the Young Greens co-convener, really, which now that I’ve reviewed it in context is actually much more mild than I had remembered it- “fuck kennedy and david tbh ;)” is basically just an irreverant way of saying “I don’t care about Kennedy and David.” (Seriously, have a look at people saying “fuck X tbh” on twitter. They’re mostly saying “I don’t have time for X” when viewed in context) I had thought it contained “fuck off,” which is very different from “fuck X tbh.”

  5. The Lone Haranguer 5

    I dont do FB for politics so cant comment on that.

    But on the “two greens Go” section here (now complete with 396 comments) I thought the general tone was pretty feral.

    It was the invective/savage response that stood out to me.

    Kennedy Graham has always struck me as a very considered sort of person and he most certainly expressed his opinion (which you say isnt a problem in an election) and he got an internet bashing of bigly proportions.

    • OncewasTim 5.1

      Which is tantamount to saying thoroughly nice people are incapable of behaving like total pratts.
      You know (for e.g.) Chris Finlayson is normally a thoroughly nice person. It’s just that when surrounded by self-entitled holier-than-thou gentry, it rubs off with an accelerant applied.

    • weka 5.2

      Ok, we’re using the word feral differently. In that thread I saw a relative consistency across commenters that what the 2 MPs had done was wrong. I hope you’re not suggesting they are above criticism.

      Graham’s problem isn’t that he expressed an opinion, and if think that’s what people are angry about then you’ve not been paying attention.

      • Indeed. The problem is that they went straight to the media rather than working things out with the caucus, that they tried to engineering a leadership coup, (this is literally the first time that has ever happened, the only appropriate time for a challenge is at the party AGM, and even then, nobody’s ever done it before, they’ve always waited for resignations because the party culture has been that it’s more important to be collaborative than to advance personally) and that they did both of these things, which are outside of normal behaviour within the party, in the middle of an election campaign and at a time when we have just had another party in this pre-election coalition have its own leadership change, and in a time when the media has been spinning full-tilt to try and discredit the debate the party is trying to have about poverty, effectively transitioning the story back to being about whether Metiria is a viable leader rather than what really matters: how people are doing in New Zealand.

        IMO they are quite lucky that Shaw has relaxed a bit since yesterday and is willing to set aside whether to expel them from the party rolls altogether. It would absolutely have been reasonable to exile them for a while and let them apply again later if they want back in.

    • popexplosion 5.3

      Please. Nobody resigned. Leaving caucus ain’t resigning. Noise in politics is essential to keeping attention and communicate yourself to voters. MT did nothing more than Key did in not living in the constituency, nothing more than English did paying back double Dipton, nothing more than any taxpayer does that claims family credits but does not declare their student son paying cash towards up keep, cash in hand jobs, mates crashing on the couch and buying a round, facts are than criminalising a benefitary when middle class rorts abound is the greater crime. Two hundred dollars a week should not mean winz rule them removing all means to make a extra buck in native capitalism. why do the Nats hate entrepuerism. and then winz does not have the capacity to enforce every social economic transgression. where fraud does happen and should be decried is when it’s so explicit, so enriching, that any reasonable person would say it’s a crime. making ends meet does not qualify.

      • Clendon and Graham did resign, from the 2017 Green campaign, and if it wasn’t so close to the election, they would have had to choose between resigning from Parliament or being kicked out by the Greens. Instead they “just” get kicked from Caucus so as not to make unnecessary paperwork.

        • popexplosion 5.3.1.1

          Or. Nats were not biting so Greens have an internal stoush to keep the issue live. That using welfare to abuse poor people is wrong, costly, self serving.

        • Dennis Frank 5.3.1.2

          Read the nuances. It was an exercising in peacemaking. Did they get kicked from caucus? Not according to RNZ news. It was framed as their choice. The spectre of expulsion vanished overnight. The caucus met to consider suspension, but that didn’t happen either. Anyone asserting their subjective take on events as fact is performing spin, not being factual.

          Seems to me all agreed to a resolution because they knew the split was historic, had started visualising how history would record it, and then realised it was in their common interests to reframe our perceptions pronto.

  6. Meh , all these shenanigans.

    Lets just get the Greens and Labour in power and give Metiria Turei a Damehood for services to the New Zealand public . For those without a voice, for those who are marginalized , for those who are poor and those who are chronically ill.

    And be done with it.

    Oh . And rescind John Keys knighthood.

    And no more of this palaver.

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  7. Psych nurse 7

    Having watched the news its obvious this is all about getting at labour not the Greens.

  8. Roy 8

    This is a similar level of hate-mania levelled at Corbyn, and look what happened there. And in NZ the balance of power is much closer.

    Keep the convo on Met standing up for the poorest, even Hooton tried to spin it as ‘no one cares what she did, it’s about what she’s doing’.

    “He policy, he policy, he policy” as the saying goes*.

    *not really, but may as well

  9. Dennis Frank 9

    Matthew wrote yesterday “The problem is that they went straight to the media rather than working things out with the caucus, that they tried to engineering a leadership coup” but I haven’t seen any evidence that this is true.

    I saw Kennedy Graham explaining that he had been expressing his disapproval of her stand to the other Green MPs ever since she announced it at the party conference. Looks like they were blind-sided. Incredible that she didn’t bother to obtain caucus consensus prior to her public disclosure.

    Gower told TV3 viewers this morning that there’s a poll being released on tonight’s 3News but it probably isn’t recent enough to establish the extent of damage caused to the GP by her bad decision-making.

    • Anne 9.1

      …there’s a poll being released on tonight’s 3News but it probably isn’t recent enough to establish the extent of damage caused to the GP by her bad decision-making.

      I don’t know Dennis Frank. I received a call from Reid Research last night around 6pm.
      The caller was carrying out a survey on behalf of Newshub. They were only interested in talking to people between the ages of 35 and 44yrs. I failed the age test by three decades. 🙁

      Strike a blow to the Greens while the iron is hot eh?

      • Dennis Frank 9.1.1

        I suspect that means they already had enough respondents in other age brackets Anne, and were just having to complete their research in that particular bracket when they called you.

        I’ll be voting Green for the 10th election in a row regardless of the shambles, but that won’t stop me informing folks online about what they’re doing wrong. I just listened to Guyon Espiner talking to James Shaw yesterday morning on the RNZ site and James confirmed that they had been working through the lack of consensus in caucus for the prior couple of weeks. That testimony proves Matthew wrong.

        He said he thought consensus had been achieved but things changed over the weekend and the two guys broke the 48 hour notification rule when they went public with their stand. If so, they are in the wrong in that respect. However, James wasn’t able to articulate a specific caucus decision that established consensus. His subjective impression that they’d reached consensus doesn’t suffice. Nobody can operate democratic decision-making processes on the basis of subjective impressions, and James would probably concede that. Looks very much like a process failure to me.

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    Penalties for breaches of COVID-19 orders are set to significantly increase from early November 2021 to better reflect the seriousness of any behaviour that threatens New Zealand’s response to the virus, COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “Throughout this Delta outbreak we’ve seen the overwhelming majority of people doing ...
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  • Counter-Terrorism Legislation Bill returns to Parliament
    The Counter-Terrorism Legislation Bill has returned to Parliament for its second reading in an important step towards giving enforcement agencies greater power to protect New Zealanders from terrorist activity. “The Bill addresses longstanding gaps in our counter terrorism legislation that seek to protect New Zealanders and make us safer,” Justice ...
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  • Joint Statement: New Zealand and Australian Trade Ministers
    Hon Damien O'Connor MP, New Zealand Minister for Trade and Export Growth, and Hon Dan Tehan MP, Australian Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment, met virtually on Monday 20 September to advance trans-Tasman cooperation under the Australia-New Zealand Closer Economic Relations Trade Agreement (CER). CER is one of the most ...
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  • Prime Minister’s Post Cabinet Press Conference/COVID-19 Update opening statement
    ***Please check against delivery***   E te tī, e te tā, nau mai rā [To all, I bid you welcome]   As you will have seen earlier, today there are 22 new community cases to report; three of which are in Whakatiwai in the Hauraki area, and the remainder in ...
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  • Major milestones for Māori COVID-19 vaccine rollout as new campaign launches
    Whānau Ora and Associate Health (Māori Health) Minister Peeni Henare acknowledges two major milestones in the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccination programme for Māori. “I am very pleased to announce more than 50 percent of eligible Māori have received their first dose and 25 per cent are now fully vaccinated,” ...
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  • Government funding to fight infectious diseases
    $36 million for research into Covid-19 and other infectious diseases The investment will improve our readiness for future pandemics Research will focus on prevention, control, and management of infectious diseases The Government’s investing in a new Infectious Diseases Research Platform to boost Aotearoa New Zealand’s Covid-19 response and preparedness for ...
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  • Quarantine-free travel with Australia to remain suspended for a further 8 weeks
    Suspension to be reviewed again mid to late November Decision brought forward to enable access from Australia to first tranche of around 3000 rooms in MIQ Air New Zealand working at pace to put on more flights from Australia from October    The suspension of quarantine-free travel (QFT) with Australia has ...
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  • Extra support for Ethnic Communities to share vaccination information
    Extra support is being made available to Ethnic Communities to help them share COVID-19 vaccination information within their communities, Minister for Diversity, Inclusion and Ethnic Communities Priyanca Radhakrishnan said. “We know we need to get every eligible person in New Zealand vaccinated. A fund being launched today will allow for ...
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  • School holidays remain unchanged for Auckland region
    School holidays in Auckland will continue to be held at the same time as the rest of the country, starting from Saturday, 2 October, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. “I’ve carefully considered advice on the implications of shifting the dates and concluded that on balance, maintaining the status quo ...
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  • Government continues crackdown on gangs and organised crime
    Operation Tauwhiro extended until March 2022 Since it was launched in February, Operation Tauwhiro has resulted in:   987 firearms seized $4.99 million in cash seized 865 people charged with a firearms-related offence Gangs and organised crime groups will continue to be relentlessly targeted with the extension of Police’s successful ...
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  • Speech to Body Positive 'HIV Treatments Update Seminar 2021'
    E ngā mana E ngā reo E ngā iwi Tēnā koutou katoa Ka huri ki ngā mana whenua o te rohe nei. Tēnā koutou. He mihi hoki ki a tatou kua tau mai nei I raro I te kaupapa o te rā. Nō reira tēnā koutou katoa Acknowledgements It’s a ...
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  • Power bill changes bring fairness to charges
    A key recommendation of an independent panel to make electricity charges fairer across all households will be put in place, the Energy and Resources Minister Megan Woods has announced. “Phasing out the regulations on ‘low-use’ electricity plans will create a fairer playing field for all New Zealanders and encourage a ...
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  • NZ economy’s strong momentum will support rebound from Delta outbreak; COVID fund replenished
    The economy showed strong momentum in the period leading up to the recent Delta COVID-19 outbreak, which bodes well for a solid economic rebound, Grant Robertson said. GDP rose 2.8 percent in the June quarter, following on from a 1.4 percent increase in the previous March quarter. This was a ...
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  • Projects create benefits into the future
    Making a well-known lake swimmable and helping to halt the decline of the endangered hoiho/yellow-eyed penguins are among a suite of new projects being supported by the Government’s Jobs for Nature programme across the southern South Island, Conservation Minister Kiri Allan says. “It’s no secret that many of our most ...
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  • Opening statement for Whāriki Indigenous Small Business Roundtable
      Kei ngā tōpito e wha o te āo e rere ana te mihi maioha ki a koutou nō tawhiti, nō tata mai e tāpiri ana ki tēnei taumata kōrero mo te ao hokohoko arā mā ngā pākihi mo ngā iwi taketake Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa – Pai Mārire.  ...
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    6 days ago
  • New members appointed to Kāpuia
    The Government is adding four additional members to Kāpuia, the Ministerial Advisory Group on the Government’s Response to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the terrorist attack on Christchurch mosques. “I’m looking forward to having Pamela MacNeill, Huia Bramley, Melani Anae and Katherine Dedo  join Kāpuia and contribute to this group’s ...
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  • Timeline confirmed for Emissions Reductions Plan
    Cabinet has agreed to begin consulting on the Emissions Reduction Plan in early October and require that the final plan be released by the end of May next year in line with the 2022 Budget, the Minister of Climate Change, James Shaw confirmed today. “Cabinet’s decision allows organisations and communities ...
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  • Pay parity pathway for early learning teachers confirmed
    Pay parity conditions and higher funding rates for education and care services will come into force on 1 January, 2022, Minister of Education Chris Hipkins confirmed today. The Government signalled this work in Budget 2021. “From 1 January, 2022, centres opting into the scheme will receive government funding and be ...
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  • Speech to the New Zealand Nurses Organisation Conference 2021
    Kia Ora tatau katoa.   Ka tuku mihi ki nga nēhi, He pou Hauora o Aotearoa, E ora ai tatou.   Whakatau mai  I runga i te kaupapa o te ra Te NZNO conference.   Tena koutou tena koutou Tena tatou katoa   Good morning, and thank you inviting me ...
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  • Government investment in farmer-led catchment groups sweeps past 150 mark
    171 catchment groups have now been invested in by the Government 31 catchment groups in the Lower North Island are receiving new support More than 5,000 farmers are focussed on restoring freshwater within a generation through involvement in catchment groups  Government investment in on-the-ground efforts by farmers to improve land ...
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  • Fight to protect kauri on track
    The Government is pitching in to help vital work to protect nationally significant kauri forests in Auckland, Minister of Conservation Kiri Allan says. “Ensuring the survival of these iconic trees for future generations means doing everything we can to prevent the potential spread of kauri dieback disease,” Kiri Allan said. ...
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  • Joint statement of Mr Bernard Monk; Hon Andrew Little, Minister Responsible for Pike River Re-entry,...
    [Note: The Parties have agreed on terms to fully and finally settle the proceeding and will jointly issue the below statement.] At the heart of this litigation are the lives of the 29 men tragically lost at the Pike River mine on 19 November 2010 and to whom we pay ...
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  • More financial support for businesses
    Today’s decision to keep Auckland in a higher COVID Alert Level triggers a third round of the Wage Subsidy Scheme which will open for applications at 9am this Friday. “The revenue test period for this payment will be the 14th to the 27th of September. A reminder that this is ...
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  • Aotearoa New Zealand provides further humanitarian support for Afghanistan
    Aotearoa New Zealand is providing a further $3 million in humanitarian assistance in Afghanistan, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta announced today.  “There is significant humanitarian need in Afghanistan, with the crisis disproportionately affecting women and girls,” said Nanaia Mahuta. The UN has estimated that 80% of the quarter of a million ...
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  • Innovative te reo prediction tool announced in Te Wiki o Te Reo Māori
    A new Māori language prediction tool will play a key role in tracking our te reo Māori revitalisation efforts, Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson announced today. He Ara Poutama mō te reo Māori (He Ara Poutama) can forecast the number of conversational and fluent speakers of te reo Māori ...
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  • Further Government support for people to access food and essential items
    The Government is responding to need for support in Auckland and has committed a further $10 million to help people access ongoing food and other essential items, Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni announced today. This latest tranche is targeted at the Auckland region, helping providers and organisations to distribute ...
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  • Half a million Pfizer vaccines from Denmark
    The Government has secured an extra half a million doses of Pfizer COVID-19 vaccines from Denmark that will start arriving in New Zealand within days, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “This is the second and larger agreement the Government has entered into to purchase additional vaccines to meet the ...
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  • Inland Revenue providing essential COVID support for businesses
    Inland Revenue is seeing increased demand for Resurgence Support Payments and other assistance schemes that it administers, but is processing applications quickly, Revenue Minister David Parker said today. David Parker said the Resurgence Support Payment, the Small Business Cashflow (loan) Scheme and the Wage Subsidy are available at the same ...
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  • New Zealand marks 20th anniversary of 9/11 attacks
    New Zealand is expressing unity with all victims, families and loved ones affected by the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks, and all terrorist attacks around the world since, including in New Zealand. “Saturday marks twenty years since the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the United States, which killed nearly 3,000 people ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Speech to SPREP Environment Ministers
    Talofa Honourable Ulu of Tokelau Faipule Kelihiano Kalolo Tēnā koutou katoa and warm Pacific greetings from Aotearoa to your excellencies, ladies and gentlemen. The new science released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change on 8 August paints an alarming picture of the projected impacts of climate change on the ...
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  • Additional Resurgence Support Payments to support business
    Businesses affected by higher Alert Levels will be able to apply for further Resurgence Support Payments (RSP). “The Government’s RSP was initially intended as a one-off payment to help businesses with their fixed costs, such as rent. Ministers have agreed to provide additional payments to recognise the effects of an ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • More Dawn Raids scholarships announced
    Details of the ‘Manaaki New Zealand Short Term Training Scholarships’, a goodwill gesture that follows the Government’s apology for the Dawn Raids of the 1970s, were released today by Pacific Peoples Minister Aupito William Sio. “These scholarships that are targeted to the Pacific will support the kaupapa of the Dawn Raids’ ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • One-way quarantine-free travel for RSE workers starting in October
      One-way quarantine-free travel for Recognised Seasonal Employer (RSE) workers from Samoa, Tonga and Vanuatu starts in October New requirement for RSE workers to have received their first vaccination pre-departure, undertake Day 0 and Day 5 tests, and complete a self-isolation period of seven days, pending a negative Day 5 ...
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  • Govt boosts Pacific suicide prevention support
    Applications have opened for the Pacific Suicide Prevention Community Fund as the Government acts to boost support amid the COVID delta outbreak. “We know strong and connected families and communities are the most important protective factor against suicide and this $900,000 fund will help to support this work,” Health Minister ...
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  • Govt parks the expiry of licenses, WoFs and regos
    As a result of the Delta outbreak, driver licences, Warrants of Fitness (WoFs), Certificates of Fitness (CoFs), vehicle licences (‘regos’) and licence endorsements that expired on or after 21 July 2021 will be valid until 30 November 2021, Transport Minister Michael Wood has announced today. “While this extension won’t officially ...
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  • COVID-19 community fund to provide support for vulnerable women and girls
    Minister for Women Jan Tinetti today announced a $2 million community fund that will provide support for women and girls adversely affected by COVID-19. “We know that women, particularly those who are already vulnerable, are disproportionally affected by the kind of economic disruption caused by COVID-19,” Jan Tinetti said. ...
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  • Next phase of support for Fiji’s COVID-19 response announced
    A further NZ$12 million of support for Fiji’s COVID-19 response has been announced by Foreign Minister Hon Nanaia Mahuta today. The package builds on previous tranches of assistance Aotearoa New Zealand has provided to Fiji, totalling over NZ$50 million. “Fiji remains in a very challenging position in their response to ...
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  • Robotic asparagus harvester aimed at addressing industry challenges
    The Government is backing a $5 million project to develop a commercial-scale autonomous robotic asparagus harvester, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. The Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures fund (SFF Futures) is contributing $2.6 million to the project. Project partner Robotics Plus Limited (RPL) will build on a prototype asparagus ...
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  • Additional Pfizer vaccines to arrive tomorrow
    More than a quarter of a million additional doses of the Pfizer vaccine are on their way from Spain to New Zealand, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. The additional doses will arrive in Auckland on Friday morning to help meet the current surge in demand for vaccination. “It’s been ...
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  • Young people to have their voices heard in Youth Parliament 2022
    The dates and details for Youth Parliament 2022 have been announced today by Minister for Youth Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives. Youth Parliament is an opportunity for 141 young people from across Aotearoa New Zealand to experience the political process and learn how government works. ...
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