We had the quick fire fast food version of the leaders debate tonite moderated again by Mike Hosking. The leaders were offered an hour. Cunliffe agreed but Key declined.
The debate started off with questions about the GCSB and mass surveillance. Key looked particularly weak. With all the changes of position that he has shown over the past few days you really have to wonder what he actually thinks. Even Mike Hosking was scathing and pointed out that on the same day Key said the Americans could be spying on us he was saying they were not. He asked are they, aren’t they, or doesn’t he know. Key then added a further possible position which no doubt will be the subject of further analysis and a further conclusion that Key has again shifted his position.
Hosking suggested to Key that he could not explain what was happening in relation to our intelligence agencies and Hosking is right.
Polls were discussed. Key criticised Cunliffe’s statement that on the latest Reid Research Poll Labour could form a Government. Cunliffe’s response was wonderful, “If you think that Internet Mana is going to go with John Key after all of this that’s weirder than most of the stuff that has happened over the past couple of days”. Cunliffe rightly pointed out that the result depends on whether or not the Conservatives get over the line and used the opportunity to question what they would do to the country.
Key then mentioned Lamb Chops. I am still not sure why …
The possibility of Winston Peters being PM was raised. It was ruled out by Cunliffe and Key. But Key has not ruled out the Deputy Prime Minister position for Peters. It seems that to a merchant banker everything is on the table.
The first hundred days policies are interesting. Cunliffe promised that Labour will
John Key’s list:
Key’s list was interesting. Most were things that NZ Inc is delivering rather than National. The jobs target is something that regularly appears in National Budgets and has never been met. There was a complete lack of anything new.
Near the end Key mixed up Tamaki Makarau with Te Tai Tokerau by thinking that Kelvin Davis will win the former even though he is a candidate for the latter. Way to go John. I trust the media will pick up on this. Labour’s prospects in the Maori seats just received a big boost.
And the Herald commentators called it a draw. When this happens you know Cunliffe came out ahead.
Overall my impression was that Cunliffe was more confident and much funnier than Key. And he knew his stuff and had a vision. By comparison Key was much better at the snarky stuff but otherwise struggled. And I still have no idea about what National intends to do this term if they are re-elected. And this is scary.
Result? Clear win for Cunliffe but of course I would say this …
Some interesting tweets …
I think #KeyvCunliffe debate could be a three way tie!
— MelmacSPARKle (@melmac21) September 17, 2014
Why is hoskings debating DC? That's Keys job. #keyvcunliffe
— stephen mills (@stephengmills) September 17, 2014
— TVNZ's Breakfast (@BreakfastonOne) September 17, 2014
— Thomas Rimmer (@ThomasRimmerNZ) September 17, 2014