Lessons?

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What can we learn from the election of Donald J Drumpf?

Not a huge amount.  And would the lessons be completely different with just a small adjustment in a few states?

I guess one thing is: Don’t neglect your base.  That’s where your vote is coming from, not your activists.  You need both, mind…  so you can’t concentrate on the issues of one to the detriment of the other.

Be bold – Trump’s Mexican Wall: infeasible, indefensible but clearly showed a vision.  Not one I share, as it’s a vision of fear of the other, but it got people fired up for him, and it got his message shared and out there.  It’s a difficult balance to strike mind, when you have the media quibbling about your policy being wrong if the costings are a few million out, versus Trump’s Wall that’d be 10s of billions.  But sometimes, maybe, screw the detail, don’t give the oxygen to those concerns, stay on the front foot of your vision to the people…

Cater to prejudices?  It’s hard on the left, when you want love to trump hate; hope to beat fear.  It’s tempting to go for the cynical easy votes, but it’s most important to Stay True to you Brand – stick with Be Bold, and Authentic.

While you’re on that Prejudice / Bold vibe, and bypassing the media’s attention to detail: was it facebook wot won it?  You need to get into people’s bubble.  Facebook is now the biggest news source, so you want to be shared.  With the change in broadcasting allocation for 2017, watch for your feed to be fed (at a price) with videos parties are hoping to be catchy, and for you to share into the less-informeds timelines.  Zuckerburg will be loving it.

Have ‘charisma‘ and ‘relate to the common man‘.  Easy to say, but no-one knows how this works.  Neither Nigel Farage or Trump have any connection to (or any really knowledge of) the poor or working class (their backgrounds are privilege personified); they’re not pretty; they have no great oratory… but somehow they hit the right notes with the natives (pays to be uncouth?).  This ‘connection’ with the ‘common people’ is probably the most powerful thing, but not really helpful as you don’t seem to be able to learn it…

Finally, a big lesson from the US, and Brexit for that matter – there’s a lot of ‘experts’ on politics – but they don’t really know.  While we need to get people to reject less often actual experts (eg climate change); we also need to reject pundits and talking heads more.  And listen to a diversity of voices across viewpoints, even more than across identities (but that’s probably not me on either score!)

116 comments on “Lessons?”

  1. Paul 1

    This explains the lessons the left must learn.
    It is the best message I have heard about Trump’s election.

  2. Paul 2

    Russell Brand also has a simlilar perspective.
    He grew in Greys, a working class town in Essex.
    His reflections on Brexit and Trump’s election are most perceptive.

  3. dukeofurl 3

    Another one for Trump, once you have established your message, its no longer the song, its the singer. ( Thats what the big rallies are about)

    And this observation from the travelling press pool:
    “Behold, Trump said to his fans, I’ve rounded up a passel of those elites you detest. And I’ve caged them for you! Allow me to belittle them for your delight. Here, now you take a turn—go ahead, have at it! Do it again, don’t be shy! Under President Trump, the other elites will be in cages, too. We’ll lock them up, just like the chant goes. Just like you wanted. You’ll be their captors.”
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/on_the_trail_for_the_final_week_of_the_trump_campaign.html

  4. Paul 4

    Michael Moore also, like Brand, grew up in a white working class town, Flint in Michigan.
    He understands why the working class of the US have rebelled against the Democrats. Like Labour in the UK and New Zeland, they have ignored the working class since the 1980s.

    • Pasupial 4.1

      Moore or less. There’s always the possibility than defeat will benefit the Democrats in the long term.

      “That doesn’t make me feel good, the fact that I was right. I never wanted to be more wrong,” the outspoken liberal director said in a phone interview on Thursday. “I just don’t live in the bubble of New York and L.A. and I was worried with what I was witnessing in the Midwest, the Rust Belt, what I call the ‘Brexit’ states.”…

      “I’m going to be one of the people leading the opposition to him, that’s going to stop him. It will be a mass movement of millions that will dwarf Occupy Wall Street,” Moore said… “We’re not going to fix the Democratic Party–we’re going to take it over,” he said…

      “The Democratic Party doesn’t seem to get it. Working people that are both African American and white–don’t make it a racial thing–have suffered at the hands of both Republicans and Democrats,” Moore said. He grew more fiery. “The DNC has to resign. They all have to resign.”

      Asked if he saw his role as that of an activist as Trump prepared to take office, he demurred, saying he didn’t like that term.

      “I’m not an activist, I’m a citizen. It’s redundant to say I’m an activist. We all should be active.”

      http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-michael-moore-interview-donald-trump-election-20161111-story.html

  5. Paul 5

    John Pilger explains the events as no-one else could.
    He castigates above all the media for their role as puppets of the establishment.
    This interview will teach you more than months of listening to the Guardian, RNZ and the BBC. Those ‘liberal’ media outlets have also been captured.

  6. Thinkerr 6

    One lesson I hope we are going to learn:

    Trump is proposing tax cuts, but the US finance media is saying that there will be lot of debate about that, given that it will create bigger deficits.

    Nek minute, in 2017, Key & English trot out the hint of tax cuts here, as their election offering.

    Unlike previous such election campaigns, though, this time I think the message might get caught up in the US debate, and backfire, leaving National looking like Trump mini-mes and with no other real cornerstone of election promises.

    Trump’s speaking of unity across Americans might get in the way of Key’s targeting of certain groups to benefit from the Nats.

    • aerobubble 6.1

      I think the biggest error people, media mostly, is doing, is taking Trump at what he says. Trump promised to pay his workers. Trump prizes loyalty, thats the only benchmark i have yet seen. So those Republicians in Congress who broke ranks better watch their backs. Ryan wont last as Congressian majority leader, well unless he got the okay from Trump to dump on him in the campaign, unlikely.

      No, stop your whinninh, its not about talkng the idiot Trump down, its about watching him most likely fail to pay his Trump republicians base. Trump is not going to pander to elite Republicians because they want something. Trump, whether taking
      advice or not will do whateve he likes.

      So no wall, no rightwing justice, no dumping illegals over the wall, its all Trump now, and please as Republicians show disloyalty coz your fired if you do, TRump voters will burn you at the next election, if the party does not first.

      Trump walked into the Republician party, its doors wide open, its politicians in their ivory towers looking down on everyone, he then downed his pants andtook a giant shit. Trump is the face of the real moral majority, that puts real kids suffering, not unborn ones, first. And sure he’ll fail, like he has so far, and the Trump Republicians will vote for another vile leader who gets it.

  7. One Anonymous Bloke 7

    Resist rape culture and fascism. Get money out of politics. Invest heavily in education. Get in the faces of right wing well-poisoners in your community.

  8. rhinocrates 8

    Voting just to say “Fuck you!” may make you feel good for a moment, but people suffer. Populism and a lynch mob mentality is not democracy, it is its opposite.

    Surges in racism:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-wins-racist-racism-race-hate-immigrants-nigel-farage-ukip-brexit-post-referendum-a7407951.html

    “Grab her by the p*ssy” legitimises sexual assault, blackface, rape threat…

    http://www.knowable.com/a/t1/some-of-the-horrific-acts-that-happened-in-the-short-time-since-trump-became-pre?utm_content=inf_4_3136_2&tse_id=INF_a35b43b0a83111e6ae75d71756b4e6b3

    A tonic from Isaac Asimov on ‘the cult of ignorance’:

    http://aphelis.net/cult-ignorance-isaac-asimov-1980/

    There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

  9. Gristle 9

    The Trump win was a waifer thin. Having lost the popular vote, the quantising present in the electoral college permitted the peoples’ choice to be reversed. The mechanics of the electoral college are at odds with the claim for the USA to be the greatest democracy.

    The GOP understood this opportunity and have focussed on disenfranchising voters in swing states. This permitted a gap to open between polling of people who think they can vote versus the people who can actually vote v’s the people who actually vote.

    The methods of disenfranchising voters start with increasing the hoops people have to go through to enrol, through to striking out enrolled voters who have the same name (usually race based) through to requiring extravagant voter id requirements.

    Structural modifications of the voter base go on unseen and and over extended periods of time.

    The analysis on voter behaviour needs to lensed through this. Claiming that one group of voters supported this candidate or that candidate because of this policy or characteristic may be possible, but the level of research needed to make a claim justified cannot be done in a few hours or a few days.

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      Trump won over towns and counties which have voted Democrat since the 1970s and 1980s.

      Call his victory “wafer thin” if you like, but you’ll miss the once in a generation political brilliance of what he has accomplished.

      Last time was Reagan.

      • Gristle 9.1.1

        I am not sure what the “political brilliance” is meant to be describing. Is it slipping the shaved dice onto the table, or is it rolling the shaved dice, or is it both?

        • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.1

          It’s doing it in plain sight under the noses of the Wall St casino/globalist establishment.

          BTW I think that late in the day, the Deep State made a close call that Trump would be better than Clinton for what they need – which is a change in direction.

          • dukeofurl 9.1.1.1.1

            That contradicts what you were saying about towns and counties that flipped from reliable Democrat to GOP.
            It was of course a small shift as those places still would have had fairly large GOP votes.
            Comparing small counties votes for Obama and Clinton show it was roughly 5% change. How much of that was due to the Dems falling vote being much larger than the GOPs slight fall in voter turnout we dont yet know.

            How was the Deep state reaching that 5%?

          • marty mars 9.1.1.1.2

            So trump is now part of this deep state what a surprise.

          • RJL 9.1.1.1.3

            I don’t think the concept of “the Deep State” extends to it somehow magically pushing Trump over the line in electoral college votes.

            Trump won electoral college votes, simply because he won county votes in states that matter. He won those because individuals voted for him, for various reasons. No “Deep State” required to explain that.

            The “Deep State”, to the extent that it is real at all, will be of importance when Trump acts as President. Say, when he tries to increase (or decrease) the level of drone assassinations, or mobilizes (or refuses to mobilize) the National Guard to shift protesters outside the White House, or attempts to appoint some lunatic or another to the Supreme Court, or enters (or refuses to enter) the identification codes from his nuclear biscuit. Influencing what actually then happens in those sorts of circumstances is more in the realm of the “Deep State’s” influence.

  10. Manuka AOR 10

    Lessons?

    It’s still “a man’s world” that we live in.

    (Don’t have to flame me for that .. I’m sorta kinda half wryly joking…. or not)

    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      Just look at the Slate article saying that white women ‘betrayed the sisterhood’ by supporting Trump. Nasty stuff.

      • Manuka AOR 10.1.1

        Thanks CV. Appreciate that.

      • Manuka AOR 10.1.2

        When I first read your comment, I thought you understood that gender may have been one factor influencing voting. Stoopid me.

        Your preferred candidate was Liz Warren, and we in Aotearoa had Helen Clark, so it may not be obvious to you, but I do believe it was one significant factor throughout the run-up and then in voting. (Note that the successful candidate had felt it necessary to tell people about the claimed size of his ‘wherever’.)

        That Slate article you refer to is someone’s expression of anger and disappointment, and I don’t necessarily agree with all of it, but I wonder if there is some truth in this bit: Most white women still identify more with white men than they do with black women, Latina women, Muslim women, transwomen, and every other woman who will have good reason to fear for her physical safety under a Trump regime. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/11/09/white_women_sold_out_the_sisterhood_and_the_world_by_voting_for_trump.html

        • Colonial Viper 10.1.2.1

          Your preferred candidate was Liz Warren, and we in Aotearoa had Helen Clark, so it may not be obvious to you, but I do believe it was one significant factor throughout the run-up and then in voting.

          Gender was absolutely a factor in the election results and in the election campaign. The Clinton team made it a tent pole of their campaign and I am fine with her choice to do that as a reality of political life.

          Clinton feminists publicly told other women that it was their duty to support Hillary Clinton, for instance.

          The exit poll results I saw suggested that 3x more black men than black women voted for Trump. Trump, as I previously noted, got massive support from white males, regardless of education level.

          I haven’t seen the stats yet but I would not be surprised if almost 40% of Latino men supported Trump.

          So yes I agree with you, gender was a major factor in this election.

          (Note that the successful candidate had felt it necessary to tell people about the claimed size of his ‘wherever’.)

          That was absolutely typical Trump behaviour and I was not surprised.

  11. Richard Rawshark 11

    You could paint a rock rainbow colours, call it rocky, campaign on tearing down the halls of power, and it would have a good chance to win.

    why?

  12. Sanctuary 12

    What we learned?

    1/ That Clintonian/Blairite politics is completely, certifiably, totally, dead and from it’s grave it’s got two hands grasped around the ankle and is tugging hard at the establishment mainstream social democratic parties of the west.

    Clintonism/Blairism won power on a simple formula. Sell out to the monied neoliberal roadblocks to power, rebrand “the left” as those things that are the concerns of urban middle class liberals, and cynically take it’s mass base of blue collar support for granted as having nowhere else to go. That electoral alliance is well and truly shattered, because the GFC and inequality has wrecked the legitimacy of the neoliberal prescription, the liberal middle class has been exposed as hopelessly intolerant to dissenting values, and the blue collar base has discovered in has, in fact got a choice – the popular right. The lesson for the NZ Labour party should be that positioning yourself as a party of middle class professional politicians selling themselves as mild neoliberal managerialists is a recipe for electoral disaster. Unfortunately, Labour is still completely becalmed in the 1990s and shows little sign of shaking itself out of its intellectual torpor anytime soon.

    2/ the one Clintonian/Blairite claim to legitimacy for leadership of the left – electoral success – has been dealt a final, fatal blow. They are history, yesterdays fish and chip paper. Pagani and Quinn and their like here in NZ should now either just shut the fuck up or go and join National.

    3/ One hundred years on, globalism and neoliberalism is painfully discovering the bitter truth socialism discovered in 1914 – that nativism, nationalism and right wing populism are far, far more powerful forces when awakened than than neoliberalism and globalism will ever be. At the moment, the neolib capitalists think they can control the popular right. Time will tell. They have thought the same thing about a great many right wing strongmen and their record of being correct is, *ahem*, patchy.

    4/ For all the hand wringing about identity politics, Americans still largely voted more for economic reasons than they did for race or gender. They voted against more of the economic same same but different and for someone who promised to bring back decent jobs via an explicit rejection of the neoliberal establishments globalist agenda. Again, the lesson for Labour in NZ should be obvious.

    5/ The Democrats learned the hard way certain old school political truisms, like don’t be so arrogant as to pick a candidate that is deeply unpopular and represents a failed past, in an election the party leader MUST be more or equally popular than his or her opponent, don’t take your base for granted, and don’t let your left wing party get hijacked by liberal middle class know it alls, and listen to the voters.

    • Colonial Viper 12.1

      The Republicans were forced by Trump to learn these lessons faster than the Democrats.

      Let’s see if National can learn these lessons faster than Labour. I’m betting yes, as Labour is structurally and culturally incapable of ideological change at this point.

      • Richard Rawshark 12.1.1

        Wouldn’t you think there latest stuff’s a move in that direction RE: labour, and don’t you have to start somewhere?

        • Colonial Viper 12.1.1.1

          Election is less than 12 months away. So yes you have to start some where and at some time. But the runway remaining is very short.

          • Richard Rawshark 12.1.1.1.1

            Agreed, frankly it’s a small step in that direction, and all there policy was made PT.(pre trump).

            Now I am hoping it gave them a kick in the mind.

    • rhinocrates 12.2

      For all the hand wringing about identity politics, Americans still largely voted more for economic reasons than they did for race or gender.

      The strong strand of white male supremacism that was overt in the campaign and afterwards among Trump’s cultists indicates that “identity politics” played a major part in many people’s decision to vote for him – it is white (or orange) male identity politics.

      • Colonial Viper 12.2.1

        The Clinton Campaign pushed identity politics and gender politics as a major driver of the election and of judgement on the candidates. And they got their wish that it be decisive in the final result.

        The strong strand of white male supremacism

        White women overall, but especially those without College degrees, disliked Clinton enough to vote for Trump in droves.

        • rhinocrates 12.2.1.1

          The overt racism of Trump’s cultists and their abuse of liberals who support minority rights as “race traitors” is indisputable.

          Women can be racists too, and hate other women – surprise, the sisterhood is not the Borg!

          • Colonial Viper 12.2.1.1.1

            Also indisputable is ongoing lefty liberal and MSM bullying, intimidation and shaming of Trump supporters.

            So these people gave up trying to tell the MSM and pollsters who they were supporting and why, and simply voted on the day.

            • rhinocrates 12.2.1.1.1.1

              I am in awe of your exceptional mind-reading powers. Please share your secret with the world!

              Sure, plenty of burning crosses planted by liberals, right? Plenty of KKK endorsements for them, right? Plenty of incitements to violence and assassination by H at her rallies, right?

              And you and your fellow cultists just had your feelings hurt while ignoring the violence being perpetrated by Trump supporters right now.

              Exactly proportional, right?

              Is your p*ssy going to get grabbed, are you going to get bashed because you’re gay, are you going to have your hijab torn off?

              You poor little darling crybaby.

            • joe90 12.2.1.1.1.2

              Yeah, we shouldn’t shame Trumpies, they’re managing to do it to themselves.
              /

              Dear @IvankaTrump + @JaredKushner, there are swastikas being painted across America by people who support your father. PLEASE SAY SOMETHING.— Michael Skolnik (@MichaelSkolnik) November 11, 2016

              "This is white America now. Take your retarded self and go somewhere else now," towards American Sign Language (ASL) user#TheTrumpEffect 😔 pic.twitter.com/HAWNzPfTDo— Nyle DiMarco (@NyleDiMarco) November 11, 2016

    • rhinocrates 12.3

      Pagani and Quinn and their like here in NZ should now either just shut the fuck up or go and join National.

      And Captain Mumblefuck, Nash and Parker too please.

    • Olwyn 12.4

      I think your analysis is spot-on Sanctuary, particularly point 1. And I think the worst thing Labour could do is to look for new ways of pitching that same old model.

      Here’s a suggestion, and I think it has come up as a talking point before. Set out a policy to rebuild our manufacturing to the level that would be needed to get us through a disaster. This idea has been taken up in Australia, where it has been pushed by Nick Xenophon, and it is a good one. Such a move would not be seen as heretical by a Trump presidency (assuming he is as good as his word), especially in its early days. It would allow room for Labour to reconnect with its working class base, would give common cause with NZ first and, if successful, would give us a solid base from which to conduct future negotiations. Not to mention, it would mean a step away from housing speculation toward making stuff and doing stuff.

      • Colonial Viper 12.4.1

        Here’s a suggestion, and I think it has come up as a talking point before. Set out a policy to rebuild our manufacturing to the level that would be needed to get us through a disaster.

        Yep me and my mates have been thinking along these lines for a while.

        This idea has been taken up in Australia, where it has been pushed by Nick Xenophon, and it is a good one.

        I hadn’t been aware of that. Thanks for the tip.

        • Olwyn 12.4.1.1

          Unfortunately I cannot find a relevant link, but did hear Xenophon speaking along those lines in the build-up to the July election, when I was in Sydney. And the general idea is most certainly on the radar in Australia.

  13. grumpystilskin 13

    And, another take on things.
    I’m sensing a pattern here..

  14. BM 14

    Have ‘charisma‘ and ‘relate to the common man‘. Easy to say, but no-one knows how this works. Neither Nigel Farage or Trump have any connection to (or any really knowledge of)

    If you have to ask that question, no wonder the left is struggling, is there not any one amongst your ranks that has ever worked with their hands or around people that do physical work.?

    The working class they’re such a mystery 🙄

    As for Trump, if you knew anything about him, you’d know he made most of his money in property development

    He was constantly down on the building sites interacting with all the trades guys, he talking to them, they talking to him.

    He’s probably the most connected to the working man a politician being for a long time.

    • Richard Rawshark 14.1

      Holy bullshit Batman. He employs site managers you pillock.

      How’s the all star white cabinet line up of national doing BM?

      Who did YOU support in the 1980 spring bok Tour and previous, aparetheid we stand beside you, national party endorsed rugby tours of SA.

      God all the SA’s flocked to NZ, I wonder what made them want to come here.

      I’ve had a look, the Herald media etc, White’s only, just you don’t advertise the fact anymore, and con a few ethnics to make you look, well, need I go on.

      bugger PC, calling it as I see it from now on.

      • BM 14.1.1

        Not sure what you’re rambling on about ?

        Anyway, Richie Go read his first book , The art of the deal.

        • framu 14.1.1.1

          thats the thing about writing your own book – you get to tell your story as you want others to see it

          • emergency mike 14.1.1.1.1

            He didn’t write it, though he likes to pretend he did. See Rhino’s link below. The author Tony Schwartz spent 18 months with him, and so probably has a better understanding of Trump than most.

            Schwartz says he feels regret for putting lipstick on a pig – the book is largely a spin piece. And that he would like to rename it “The Sociopath”. And that he rates President Donald’s chances of ending civilization as “excellent”.

        • Richard Rawshark 14.1.1.2

          Going on about..

          That your here, supporting racists and bigots, whether it’s leaving a dying Moari lady with 2 kids in prison to rot, Until public pressure got too much, to the old SA apartheid rugby tour, nothings changed.

          and it’s changed my perception of you lot, sorry. I think your racists until you can show me why your not, if that’s even possible anymore.

          as for your Trumps a site work experienced bloke, don’t talk shit.

          Tours around his construction sites does not the man a tradesman, make.

        • rhinocrates 14.1.1.3

          You mean the one that was ghostwritten, by a writer who now despises Trump?

          http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

          As far as we know, Trump has never written anything longer than 130 characters.

        • weka 14.1.1.4

          Ok, let me get this right. You’re not working class. You’re chastising people in a group that includes working class people for none of them knowing how to relate to working class people. Going by your question, I take it that you don’t actually talk to the working class people on TS (or listen to them). And then you cite Trump and tell us you take your information about Trump from what Trump says about himself?

          It’s alright matey, we get it, you think the master class are the best people to understand those that work with their hands.

          • BM 14.1.1.4.1

            That comment was directed at Ben Clark, not the people posting here.

            From what I’ve read, Ben is part of the Labour party machine, so having him commenting about what a mystery ” being able to relate to the common man” is, did rather surprise me.

            Especially when the labour party is supposed to represent the working class, obviously the party is screaming out for people more connected to it’s constituents.

            • Colonial Viper 14.1.1.4.1.1

              Especially when the labour party is supposed to represent the working class,

              Where have you been hiding the last 3-4 decades? /sarc

            • Ben Clark 14.1.1.4.1.2

              2 things:
              1/ while I stood in 2011 for Labour in the North Shore, I’m not sure whether being a local party member makes me “part of the machine”.

              2/ you’ve misinterpreted what I’ve written anyway. I personally make no claim to be proper ‘working class’, but being a labourer doesn’t mean that suddenly an entire social class will feel you reach them with what you say. And despite what many say, there are plenty of working class people still in the Labour party, it’s not just ‘intellectuals’.
              I think Trump has far less personal connection or experience of working class life than me, despite what you say, and I think the union who represents some of his casino workers would vehemently disagree with you. Farage, like Trump, came through elite schools and was shielded from actually having to mix with ‘common people’. But that doesn’t stop a large chunk of the population feeling they relate to their words.
              Charisma / X-factor / whatever you want to call it, seemingly can’t be taught, which may well be a good thing or everyone would be at it. But it has nowt to do with an actual connection.

              Sincerity – once you can fake that, you’ve got it made.

        • joe90 14.1.1.5

          Anyway, Richie Go read his first book , The art of the deal.

          Yeah Richie, there’s so much to learn from ghost written works of fiction.

    • rhinocrates 14.2

      Scrubbed plenty of toilets in my time. Learned welding and carpentry. Worked in workshops making furniture and set construction. I went through architecture school and spent a lot of time gaining practical construction experience alongside management work. Also got degrees in industrial design and English (that’s what you can do in a socialist state – climb a ladder). Taught writing to ex convicts and addicts among others. Now I’m self-employed and I do volunteer work helping refugees learn English.

      Father was a railway cadet, rugby league player representing NZ, travelling salesman, furniture store manager; grandfather was a porter; great grandfather a coal miner. Brothers are an engineer and a farm worker. Most of my extended family is in farm work.

      That’s just me. I’m sure there are plenty of others here to refute your silly caricature.

      He’s probably the most connected to the working man a politician being for a long time.

      Leeches are very well connected to their prey.

      • Bunji 14.2.1

        Leeches are very well connected to their prey.
        Indeed.

      • miravox 14.2.2

        “I’m sure there are plenty of others here to refute your silly caricature”
        Yup. I’m one

        But no matter, the working class are stereotyped as lazy dumbarses (except when populists want something – then we’re reverentially the ‘hard-working “common man” – even if we’re women – who are speaking up’) who will follow the first authoritarian leader that will promise us the world, if we bother to vote at all.

  15. Lanthanide 15

    Odd that the charisma and common touch points highlight Farage and Trump, but fails to nominate Key who is in the same vein. Obviously Key didn’t have a privileged upbringing – which he weaves into his backstory – but he’s still a millionaire out of touch with the experiences of every day people in this country who can’t afford a house or rent.

  16. Manuka AOR 16

    “If we don’t confront what’s happened here, we’re looking at another 10, 20 years”

  17. dukeofurl 17

    Put away all your your after the fact finger pointing, the guy who did predict Trump win, says it has nothing to do with the candidates
    The Prediction Professor:
    “But a Washington-based professor insisted that Trump was lined up for a win – based on the idea that elections are “primarily a reflection on the performance of the party in power.”

    Professor Allan Lichtman uses a historically-based system of what he calls “keys” to predict election results ahead of time. In our conversations in September and October, he outlined how President Barack Obama’s second term set the Democrats up for a tight race, and his keys tipped the balance in Trump’s favour, even if just barely.”

    a set of 13 true/false questions decides it , not Trumps Wall or Hillarys Emails
    The keys, which are explained in depth in Lichtman’s book “Predicting the Next President: The Keys to the White House 2016” are:

    Party Mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the U.S. House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections.
    Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.
    Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.
    Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign.
    Short-term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
    Long-term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
    Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy.
    Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
    Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
    Foreign/military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.
    Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.
    Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.
    Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-headed-for-a-win-says-professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/

    • Pasupial 17.1

      It’s easy to have predictions seem correct when you choose both sides to win (eg in August):

      Lichtman added his model currently predicts Clinton will win about 52 percent of the vote

      http://dailybruin.com/2016/08/15/experts-predict-clinton-win-during-hammer-museum-lecture-2/

      Lichtman’s claim to three decades of accuracy rests on Gore having won the popular vote in 2000 and so “really” being the winner. But for that to be the case, then since Clinton won the popular vote this time, he should have stuck with her (or gone for Bush in 2000).

      It’s worth noting that Lichtman’s predictions use very different methods than pollsters and data-based prognosticators. Some statisticians take issue with the structure of his system, a set of 13 true/false questions, saying that the binary nature of his keys leads to what’s called “overfitting,” which is basically creating a system that fits the data but has little statistical significance. But Lichtman counters by saying that system has correctly predicted every election since 1984 (specifically, his predictions have picked the next president correctly in all of those elections but 2000, when he picked Al Gore, who won the popular vote).

      http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11746870

  18. Mike the Lefty 18

    Donald Trump’s tactics for the election had quite a lot in common with those of Adolf Hitler in the 1930s.
    Now before the trolls start screeching I say first that I am not comparing the personal Trump to the personal Hitler, only the way they campaigned, and not necessarily on everything.
    Trump and Hitler both conducted vigorous mass rally in-your-face style campaigning, openly taunting and insulting their opponents. They said what they liked and cared little about offending anyone
    Both had contempt for their current democratic systems. Hitler wanted to destroy it completely, whilst Trump has implied that he owes the Republican party nothing and he will choose his own path, using the Republican Party only when it suits him. It seems he will choose government officials largely on the basis of personal loyalty rather than ability. Hitler did this too.
    Both made extravagant promises that were difficult to believe, and yet people believed them because they wanted to believe them. Hitler actually achieved many of them, albeit it temporarily at a terribly high cost, whilst with Trump we don’t know yet.
    Both openly campaigned on division in society rather than the conventional wisdom of unifying a country by bringing people together.
    Both appealed to the worst aspects of Nationalism, both blamed foreign powers and foreigners for most of their country’s troubles.
    Both were implicitly backed by the Army
    Both stressed the need to make their countries respected (or feared) internationally, not necessarily by peaceful means.

  19. Peter 19

    The Trump Blueprint?

    Repeat simple messages over and over again that stir emotion and have an underlying mantra/theme/slogan.

    In NZ this could possibly be about the unfairness of the current system with respect to housing, wages, environment and inequality.

    Don’t promote policy specifics, identify the perceived wrongs (or create them) and convince people you will correct them. (Muldoon was good at this)

    Say it with passion as that is what is required to get out the missing million required for the Left to win

    There you go, easy!

  20. Draco T Bastard 20

    I guess one thing is: Don’t neglect your base.

    The Democrats and Labour have ignored more than their base – they’ve ignored all the people who were worse off under neo-liberalism and simply promised more of it. Trump promised to get rid of it and bring manufacturing and other high paying jobs and better education back.

    Labour needs to be doing the same:
    Get rid of the FTAs – people know that these things are doing them harm. Trade isn’t bad but trading with countries that have standards far below ours undercuts our own living standards.
    Free education. If people aren’t in work then they should be getting an education. Labour’s Work for the Dole scheme is better than what we have but it’s still not good enough. Education is something that needs to be seen as ongoing. Not as something that you finish while young and that’s it.
    Build up the infrastructure to support manufacturing here in NZ from NZ resources. We should not be exporting raw logs, or raw iron sand (an actual ban on exporting raw resources is probably a good idea). And if that means the government building the necessary factories then so be it (Actually, this is exactly what the government should do – and then charge a simple, small fee for anything that anyone wants produced).

    Neither Nigel Farage or Trump have any connection to (or any really knowledge of) the poor or working class (their backgrounds are privilege personified); they’re not pretty; they have no great oratory… but somehow they hit the right notes with the natives (pays to be uncouth?).

    They spoke simply and directly addressed the issues that people saw as the problem. Labour have been ignoring those issues to a large degree.

    I recall the Labour gathering in New Lynn a few months back with Little speaking. Some of his words indicated that Labour were about to announce a full ban of offshore buying of houses and that got him a massive round of applause. And then he went on and talked about restrictions instead and that shut people up real fast. Thing is, I’m sure that Little did notice the difference at the time but labour has continued to just give us more offshore sales, more of the bloody same.

    People don’t want more of the same as they know it doesn’t work.

  21. Brendon Harre 21

    The lesson to learn is you cannot ignore your base, fail to represent them, ignore there stories, expose them to all the downsides in the economy and none of the up. This is what the Democrats have done in the US for 30 odd years. The result is there base did not vote, despite massive fundraising and the most organised get out the vote campaign ever. It was the Democrats vote falling not Trumps rising (in comparison to previous elections) which did it. I wrote more about this at the end of the article here. https://medium.com/@brendon_harre/housing-affordability-on-the-ground-8639297432e4#.kjhyzre5h

    In the US the working and middle classes have become a precarious existence -they teeter over the abyss -where a restructure a work or ill health can push you over. In NZ we thankfully have a safety net for health and a threadbare one for employment -but it is housing where the gaps are the largest.

    It is for this reason a few weeks back I wrote the following introduction in an article for Interest.co.nz.

    “Housing affordability in New Zealand and in many other places around the world is getting worse.

    This exposes difficult choices. If the value of New Zealand’s housing continues to rise, if there is no price correction, this will widen the socio-economic divide.

    The property owners, the landed gentry will benefit and those without property wealth will suffer.

    Long term, refusing to acknowledge this widening socio-economic divide means the chances of some sort of radical revolutionary response rises.

    Unlikely in this modern day, to be guillotine wielding revolutionaries of the Parisian type – more likely to be something like the anti-establishment outburst of the Brexit or Trump variety.”
    http://www.interest.co.nz/opinion/84331/brendon-harre-says-become-fairer-society-we-should-learn-lessons-earlier-struggles

    I wasn’t specifically predicting Trump would be elected president -I thought he wouldn’t get over the line. But a clear headed look at history shows some type revolution is on the cards.

    • Draco T Bastard 21.1

      But a clear headed look at history shows some type revolution is on the cards.

      QFT

      • rhinocrates 21.1.1

        One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.

        George Orwell

  22. Blackcap 22

    Interesting excerpt from Selena Zito

    “The 70-year-old Republican nominee took his time walking from the green room toward the stage. He stopped to chat with the waiters, service workers, police officers, and other convention staffers facilitating the event. There were no selfies, no glad-handing for votes, no trailing television cameras. Out of view of the press, Trump warmly greets everyone he sees, asks how they are, and, when he can, asks for their names and what they do.
    “I am blown away!” said one worker, an African American man who asked for anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to speak to the press. “The man I just saw there talking to people is nothing like what I’ve seen, day in and day out, in the news.”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-makes-his-case-in-pittsburgh/501335/

    • Colonial Viper 22.1

      Thanks for this. Aside from his politics, IMO like GW, Trump as an ordinary down to earth person has been consistently underestimated.

      • Blackcap 22.1.1

        My point being that I think Trump has been unfairly pilloried by a relentless media that only wanted to see the bad things in Trump. But the people saw through that and they were the ones that ultimately voted him in. In fact these so called uneducated deplorables could also see through the false narrative that the media tried to portray of Hillary.
        Often I wonder if the uneducated are actually not smarter than their degree counterparts.

        • Draco T Bastard 22.1.1.1

          My point being that I think Trump has been unfairly pilloried by a relentless media that only wanted to see the bad things in Trump.

          How to Win Friends and Influence People

          Twelve Things This Book Will Do For You
          This section was included in the original 1936 edition as a single page list, which preceded the main content of the book, showing a prospective reader what to expect from it. The 1981 edition omits points 6 to 8 and 11.

          1. Get you out of a mental rut, give you new thoughts, new visions, new ambitions.
          2. Enable you to make friends quickly and easily.
          3. Increase your popularity.
          4. Help you to win people to your way of thinking.
          5. Increase your influence, your prestige, your ability to get things done.
          6. Enable you to win new clients, new customers.
          7. Increase your earning power.
          8. Make you a better salesman, a better executive.
          9. Help you to handle complaints, avoid arguments, keep your human contacts smooth and pleasant.
          10. Make you a better speaker, a more entertaining conversationalist.
          11. Make the principles of psychology easy for you to apply in your daily contacts.
          12. Help you to arouse enthusiasm among your associates.

          Everything you mention in your first comment is mentioned in the book.

          Now, what do you think is important about 6, 8 and 11?

  23. rhinocrates 23

    Lengthy analysis here, with plenty of blame to share on both sides. Written before the election (published in May) and quite prescient.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

    Neo-fascist movements do not advance gradually by persuasion; they first transform the terms of the debate, create a new movement based on untrammeled emotion, take over existing institutions, and then ruthlessly exploit events.

    …Remember James Carville’s core question in the 1992 election: Change versus more of the same? That sentiment once elected Clinton’s husband; it could also elect her opponent this fall.

    … In his 1935 novel, It Can’t Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis wrote a counterfactual about what would happen if fascism as it was then spreading across Europe were to triumph in America. It’s not a good novel, but it remains a resonant one. The imagined American fascist leader — a senator called Buzz Windrip — is a “Professional Common Man … But he was the Common Man ­twenty-times-magnified by his oratory, so that while the other Commoners could understand his every purpose, which was exactly the same as their own, they saw him towering among them, and they raised hands to him in worship.”

    He “was vulgar, almost illiterate, a public liar easily detected, and in his ‘ideas’ almost idiotic.” “ ‘I know the Press only too well,’ ” Windrip opines at one point. “ ‘Almost all editors hide away in spider-dens, men without thought of Family or Public Interest … plotting how they can put over their lies, and advance their own positions and fill their greedy pocketbooks.’ ”

    …An American elite that has presided over massive and increasing public debt, that failed to prevent 9/11, that chose a disastrous war in the Middle East, that allowed financial markets to nearly destroy the global economy, and that is now so bitterly divided the Congress is effectively moot in a constitutional democracy: “We Respectables” deserve a comeuppance. The vital and valid lesson of the Trump phenomenon is that if the elites cannot govern by compromise, someone outside will eventually try to govern by popular passion and brute force.

  24. Paul 24

    A rare snippet of sense from the mainstream media.

  25. Paul 25

    ‘They’ve ruined our country, why would we vote for them?’ – Jesse Ventura on GOP & Dems

  26. Paul 26

    J.D. Vance’s ‘Hillbilly Elegy’ provides a window into the pain and anger of Trump’s America

    http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-ca-jc-hillbilly-elegy-20161007-snap-story.html

  27. rhinocrates 27

    Wealthy and powerful groups tend to learn only the simplest, most self-gratifying lessons.

    Car manufacturers already have learned “the right won” so they now think they can lobby to keep polluting.

    http://www.motor1.com/news/128290/automakers-mpg-requirements-rolled-back/

  28. Draco T Bastard 29

    These Rust Belt Democrats Saw the Trump Wave Coming

    To counter Trump’s populist appeal, Betras urged Clinton to go vigorously after blue-collar workers by promising to bring back jobs. The key, Betras argued, was to have this message delivered not by politicians but by local blue-collar families in radio and television ads across the region. “The messages can’t be about job retraining,” he wrote. “These folks have heard it a million times and, frankly, they think it’s complete and total bullshit.” Instead, he argued, the ads should “focus on the reinvigoration of American manufacturing, and I don’t mean real high-tech stuff because they’ve heard that a million times before and they aren’t buying it.”

    There’s no point in having training if there’s no jobs to go into. We can’t rely upon the private sector to create jobs because the private sector is more concerned with profits and being rich than creating jobs.

    So, the government has to actively engage in the manufacturing sector. Build the factories (3d printer based ones), ensure resources are sustainably extracted, processed and recycled. We don’t want them to be large factories, that’s not how the economies going. They need to be small and producing just a little more than what NZ needs but flexible enough to produce anything (hence the 3d printing).

  29. Draco T Bastard 30

    And another lesson that Labour needs to learn from it’s past:

    Man to Man by Tom Skinner 1981 – Michael Savage explained the State housing scheme to Tom Skinner of the (New Zealand) Federation of Labour as such;

    Pg 45 – “I was with Joe on one occasion when he began chatting about the ramifications of the Governments State Housing Scheme. He told me … how the construction of those houses created assets in a productive way. The Government created the money through the Reserve Bank at a moderate rate of interest to cover the contract price, which paid for materials, tradesmen’s wages, the purchase and development of the land and all the other essentials required to finish the house. On completion the house was transferred from the Housing Division of the public works department to the State Advances Corporation – in effect from one department to another. The corporation was the renting agency responsible for selecting the tenants, collecting rents and maintaining the house and the property.

    The philosophy was that as the money was created for productive purposes no loss could occur if it were not repaid from one department to another. Meanwhile, during construction, tradesmen had been paid wages which had been spent and absorbed into the economy. But it was solid money backed by the creation of assets. People had been kept fully employed while the government built homes for the people.
    Tom Skinner;
    “While Joe spoke I began suddenly to grasp the Labour philosophy related to the creation of credit. It set me off thinking about money and what it meant to the economy. The Government, figuratively speaking, could rub a state house debt out of the books because a building stood in its place. But money created by the banks in order to gain profits in the form of interest was the other side of the coin. It was unproductive, inflationary creation of money if unmatched by equivalent goods and services…..”

  30. Cinny 31

    What lessons can we learn? One big one.. the role of the media, especially in the USA.

    This episode of the Listening Post (aired last night) is the BEST evaluation of the election and the media.

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED VIEWING.

    Maybe if Bill Clinton had not of changed the laws regarding network ownership things would have been different.

    And now post election, the reporting continues, because this topical subject is generating the tv networks squillions of $$$$$$$$$$ in advertising revenue.

    “we dig deep into the history: the way the US corporate media were built, the regulations that went away and the legislation that paved the way for the creation of some of the biggest media companies the world has ever seen.”

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/listeningpost/2016/11/trumped-abyss-reporters-reported-161112060429336.html

  31. rhinocrates 32

    Lesson: don’t be any colour other than white or orange.

    Another day in the sleepy town of Trumpton:

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/trump-nation-whites-only-trump-fans-deface-maryland-church-for-reaching-out-to-hispanics/

  32. joe90 33

    Lesson: if it sounds too good to be true, it isn’t true.

    Already off table: Mexico pay 4 wall, mass deportations of non-criminals,repealing O'Care in total, trade wars. Tax cuts 4 rich still there.— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 13, 2016

    Oh, off table 2: coal back. GOP now admits what rest of us knew: Sales depend on demand. Plants now fueled w/ nat gas. Demand wont increase— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 13, 2016

    I mean this sincerely. As it becomes gradually more obvious 2 Trump voters that they were conned, don't belittle them. It's not their fault.— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) November 13, 2016

  33. rhinocrates 34

    A broad historical perspective:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tobias-stone/history-tells-us-what-will-brexit-trump_b_11179774.html?

    What can we do? Well, again, looking back, probably not much. The liberal intellectuals are always in the minority. See Clay Shirky’s Twitter Storm on this point. The people who see that open societies, being nice to other people, not being racist, not fighting wars, is a better way to live, they generally end up losing these fights. They don’t fight dirty. They are terrible at appealing to the populace. They are less violent, so end up in prisons, camps, and graves. We need to beware not to become divided (see: Labour party), we need to avoid getting lost in arguing through facts and logic, and counter the populist messages of passion and anger with our own similar messages. We need to understand and use social media.

    We need to harness a different fear. Fear of another World War nearly stopped World War 2, but didn’t. We need to avoid our own echo chambers. Trump and Putin supporters don’t read the Guardian, so writing there is just reassuring our friends. We need to find a way to bridge from our closed groups to other closed groups, try to cross the ever widening social divides.

    (Taking a rare peek at Public Address, I see some intellectual resources, but as usual it’s an echo chamber. If only they’d step out of their Point Chevalier safe space and get their hands dirty… won’t happen of course.)

  34. joe90 35

    Was John Titor there?.
    /

    Seventeen pages in, and Sinclair Lewis has my attention. This was published in 1935. pic.twitter.com/hb7aubOCwQ— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) November 14, 2016

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxO-FJiVIAAuaCy.jpg

  35. joe90 36

    America is in the hands of people who want to burn the house down.

    Two quotes you need to read side by side.1. From Trump 2. From Trump's chief strategist, Steve BannonSpread this widely. pic.twitter.com/lKMoDpMW0X— Sarah Kendzior (@sarahkendzior) November 14, 2016

  36. joe90 37

    Despite the anti-Semites in his brigade wishing the worst for Israel, Trump’s win has emboldened the efforts of extremists like Naftali Bennett to sink Palestinian aspirations to sovereignty and a better life.

    JERUSALEM:
    Donald Trump’s election as the next US president presents Israel with a unique opportunity to recast its Middle East policies, a far-right Israeli cabinet member and staunch opponent of Palestinian statehood, said on Monday.

    Naftali Bennett, leader of the religious-nationalist Jewish Home party and a staunch proponent of Israeli settlement building, said it was now up to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to communicate to the US administration and the world what he wanted and push for it.

    […]

    “We have a chance to reset the structure across the Middle East. We have to seize that opportunity and act on it.”

    Relying on “old paths”, he said, would be a mistake.

    Bennett would not be drawn on what actions he thinks Netanyahu should take. But in the past, Bennett has called for the annexation of most of the West Bank, which the Palestinians want for a state together with Gaza and East Jerusalem.

    http://nation.com.pk/international/14-Nov-2016/under-trump-israel-can-reset-middle-east-right-wing-leader-says

  37. joe90 38

    I’m sure wikileaks will get right on it!
    /

    Incredible: Mike Pence is going to court to shield his emails from public scrutiny https://t.co/XWYAzGCNlb pic.twitter.com/mI6jcGCw17— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 14, 2016

  38. joe90 39

    Policy doesn’t matter.

    The latest data from television news analyst Andrew Tyndall confirms that broadcast network evening newscasts this year devoted nearly four times as much airtime to covering Hillary Clinton’s emails as they have spent covering all campaign policy initiatives from all candidates for the entire year: 125 minutes for emails, and 35 minutes for in-depth policy discussions on issues like terrorism, immigration, policing.

    https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/11/07/media-s-final-email-flop-fitting-end-journalism-s-troubled-campaign-season/214357

  39. joe90 40

    This election was all about the economic anxiety of working Americans.
    /

    The post came from Pamela Taylor, a woman who works as the director at the Clay County Development Corporation in Clay, a non-profit organization that is funded by state and federal funds.

    Following the results of the presidential election, Taylor posted the following on her Facebook page: “It will be refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady in the White House. I’m tired of seeing an ape in heels.”

    Beverly Whaling, the Mayor of Clay, responded to the post saying “Just made my day Pam.”

    […]

    Taylor says she is working with her attorney to file a lawsuit against individual(s) who have slandered her.

    She says she is sorry for everything that has happened but says she now believes the situation has turned into a “hate crime against me.”

    http://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Non-profit-director-and-mayor-under-fire-after-Facebook-post-cal-401049855.html

  40. rhinocrates 41

    Moved from OM:

    Originally aimed at the US Democratic Party but really should be read by the Labour front chaise longue.

    Maybe there can be a discussion thread on Labour After Trump?

    http://robertreich.org/post/153088763715

    The Democratic Party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes.

    Commentary:

    View at Medium.com

    The Democrats have a stark choice right now: Whose Side Are You On, Democrats?

    There’s been some slow gestures at progress lately, but it’s been very Little very late and I still don’t expect Little to grow a backbone to deal with the neoliberals he’s been appeasing. I’ll cheer for a semi-rigid cartilaginous rod.

  41. joe90 42

    See, tiny fisted fascists can unify people, by terrifying them.
    /

    This is a big deal, especially at this moment: American Jewish Committee and Islamic Society of North America launch Muslim-Jewish Council pic.twitter.com/B307tjcZPj— (((Yair Rosenberg))) (@Yair_Rosenberg) November 14, 2016

    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ajc-and-isna-launch-muslim-jewish-advisory-council-300362171.html

  42. joe90 43

    When you want to bomb, bomb Iran, John Bolton’s your man.

    Source says John Bolton is close to being named Secretary of State, Corker still a remote possibility, Gingrich is out— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) November 14, 2016

  43. joe90 44

    It’s best you think it through before you vote.

    Texans helped put Donald Trump, admittedly duly-elected, into the presidency. After wavering all summer and fall, the Lone Star State went decisively for the reality TV star from New York. Now, it turns out, Texas has pretty much the most to lose in the opening days of a Trump presidency, from the economy to our fellow Texans, in fact.

    […]

    Texas is the largest beneficiary of NAFTA, which pumps nearly $500 billion into the U.S. economy annually, and nearly half of that winds up in, yes, Texas. If you’d like to see it for yourself, get on Interstate 35 any day of the week. More than 3 million trucks cross into Texas from Mexico each year, and about 2 million head south. By 2020, 70,000 trucks will traverse the 70 miles between Austin and San Antonio alone.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2016/11/10/trumps-first-100-days-hit-texas-hard

    • Macro 44.1

      Travel the 401 from Toronto south to Windsor and Detroit! Pretty much the same. Trucks for miles. I counted 14 trucks in a row before 1 car. Then more trucks – going both ways. One couple we stayed with advised us that Canada has about 14 days of supplies at any one time. Not sure about that, but It could be so. Canadian Dr John Mc Murtry in his book “Unequal Freedoms – the global market as an ethical system” written in 1998, writes

      In the Canadian federal election of 1988, fought largely on the issue, a majority of the electorate voted against the party that then went on to sign the original US – Caadian Free Trade Agreement (FTA). This election was won by Brian Mulroney’s Progressive Conservative Party with 43% of the vote. 57% of the electorate voted agaist Mulroney and 53% voted for parties whose explicit policy was to oppose FTA. This is worth bearing in mind, because the figures have been rarely mentioned.

      and

      Such “necessary sacrifices” however applied not only to Mexico’s indigenous people, but also to farmers across Canada, as established tariff and marketing board systems of secure prices and sales were to be progressively dismantled by NAFTA. The problem also applied to the estimated 500,000 manufacturing workers, who according to the Canadian Labour Congress, lost their jobs within 3 years of the original US – Canada FTA because goods could be produced elsewhere at lower wages (for example at 63 cents per hour paid out by US corporations operating in Mexico). ….The problem was also applicable to Mexican workers. Their life – wages eventually collapsed by 60%, and unemployment rates sky-rocketed as transnationally mobile capital left the Mexiacn economy in massive splurges of speculative currency ventures, quick-profit investments, and capital flights

      Many similarities to the current situation – minority candidate but this time wants to undo the FTAs and reintroduce tariffs.

      I think the dismantling of FTA’s is not a bad idea per se. I just don’t think that it can be done overnight without severe disruption and cost to ordinary people.

  44. Andre 45

    That feeling when you elect someone who completely lacks basic competence to actually do the job.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-transition-team_us_582b9516e4b0aa8910bd97a5

  45. joe90 46

    History repeats.

    Fox News will air a one-hour special where TMZ's founder interviews Trump "as he showcases the objects in his home." pic.twitter.com/XYrwORCyNB— Gerry Smith (@gerryfsmith) November 16, 2016

    Hitler at Home

    Adolf Hitler was an extreme anti-Semite, convicted traitor, and leader of a violent paramilitary force. In a remarkable press campaign, the Nazis reinvented him as a genial Bavarian gentleman.

    https://placesjournal.org/article/hitler-at-home/

  46. joe90 47

    Just when you thought it was a thing of the past, sluggish schizophrenia makes a return.
    /

    A Rutgers University professor tweeted Tuesday night that NYPD officers came to his home then detained him over tweets he sent and statements he made on campus that were critical of president-elect Donald Trump. Kevin Allred, who teaches women’s and gender studies at Rutgers, says that his Twitter account was also temporarily suspended over one of the tweets he sent.

    […]

    Allred, who has described himself as a queer feminist and garnered some national attention for teaching a course on Beyoncé and politics, sent off a series of tweets about being detained, including that he was given a psychiatric evaluation at the hospital.

    http://au.complex.com/life/2016/11/rutgers-university-professor-detained-given-psych-evaluation-tweeting-criticisms-of-donald-trump?

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    I find this unbelievable:
    I've got one source saying more Labour MPs than expected are mulling whether to vote for the deal - including names who were not on the letter to Juncker and Tusk— Emilio Casalicchio (@e_casalicchio) 17 October 2019 I've compiled a list of possible reasons why Labour ...
    2 days ago
  • Why do we need control orders again?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Bullshitting the Minister
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Speaker: Extinction Rebellion is not a cult (but ecstasy for the people)
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    3 days ago
  • We need to bring the police under control
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • If you can’t measure it, does it exist?
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    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    3 days ago
  • Swinson’s swithering
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    3 days ago
  • Women’s rights, trans ideology and Gramsci’s morbid symptoms
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • We need to take guns off police
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • “Bringing kindness back”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Press Release: “Fake News” from Auckland City Council CCOs Board Chairs re pay and performance b...
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    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    4 days ago
  • Ever-So-Slightly Bonkers: Simon Bridges Plays To His Base.
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    4 days ago
  • Asking for food
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    Opposable ThumbBy Unknown
    4 days ago
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    4 days ago
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    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 days ago
  • Massey University triggered to rebrand
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    4 days ago
  • Swinson backing calls for a second referendum (again)
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    4 days ago
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • National is now the party of climate arson
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    5 days ago
  • “Manifest” by Andrew Bird – A Song For The Times.
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    5 days ago
  • Passing the buck
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • India a major player in Earth observation satellites
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    5 days ago
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    5 days ago
  • Common misconceptions about “Global Warming”
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    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    6 days ago
  • A climate of tyranny
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Collins crushes climate
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    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    6 days ago
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • What do these mother-child studies really say about fluoridation?
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    6 days ago
  • Losing Labour’s Mills-Tone.
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    6 days ago
  • Speaker: Disability and the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Historical Abuse
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    6 days ago
  • Spain is not a democracy
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • UK Conservatives hate democracy
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • What is wrong with our building industry?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Local bodies
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A future of government
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    SciBlogsBy Robert Hickson
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Catalonia, interrupted
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    1 week ago
  • Sage Decisions Unwisely Over-Ruled.
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    1 week ago
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Woman: Deleted.
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The Hollowest of Men Ride Again… SURPRISE!
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    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Barbaric
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Is this study legit? 5 questions to ask when reading news stories of medical research
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Fighting Monsters.
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    1 week ago
  • The next wave of kaupapa Māori politics: its constitutional, it must be.
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    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
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    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
  • Reporters deliver uplifting news to fleeing Japanese residents: they won’t miss any rugby
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Jordanian teachers’ successful strike has lessons for here
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
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    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • The SIS unlawfully spied on Nicky Hager
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • October 2019 – Newsletter
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    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    2 weeks ago
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Paying the price in California
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Let’s Hear It For Up-Close-And-Personal, Hard-Copy Democracy!
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    2 weeks ago
  • 10/10: World Day Against the Death Penalty
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Talking Freer Lives: a Marxist gender-critical perspective from Australia
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Government spin accepted by union leadership
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Forbidden Thoughts
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Much love to my loyal Ukrainian readership
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    2 weeks ago
  • Another day of bonkers GNUmours (again, sorry)
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    To avoid no deal, deliver on the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour vs working class immigrants – again!
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women press statement: on Massey University and Feminism 2020
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Farmers support dirty rivers
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • No-one cares about local government
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The political ghosts of eugenics may matter more than the genetic
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • “Surplus” again
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Inside the Downing Street bunker
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    2 weeks ago
  • Taking Control Of The Nation’s Story.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Are GNUs extinct?
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    2 weeks ago
  • Labour chickens out again
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Transgender extremism, violence at work against feminist meeting at British Labour Party conference
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

  • Methane reducing cattle feed one step closer
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Bill to refresh superannuation system passes first reading
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Government announces next steps in fight against measles
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Speech to the New Zealand Institute of International Affairs, Pacific Futures: Connections, Identity...
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Police trial new response to high risk events
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New awards celebrate fisheries sustainability
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • More progress for women and we can do more
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Proposals to curb environmental damage help our coasts and the oceans
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • New mental health facility for Waikato
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • 500 new te reo Māori champions in our classrooms
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Minister James Shaw welcomes 2018 Census first release
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Driving transparency, ethics and accountability in government use of algorithms
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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