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Levin Arrest and Police Escort

Written By: - Date published: 8:31 pm, December 12th, 2009 - 156 comments
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This is a guest post by Jasmine because I couldn’t be bothered writing it myself 😉

Today Rochelle and I were hanging out in Levin, as you do on a Saturday afternoon, and decided to go check out the local layer hen slaughterhouse.

There was no one around so we decided to climb the fence and see if anyone was there and see if there was a possible opportunity to take some pictures.

There was no one there so we took some photos of where the hens are shackled upside down on a conveyer belt, electrocuted, killed and have their feathers removed.

Rochelle went back over the fence to get the video camera just as the owners happened to be driving by; oops.

They stopped and called the Police.

After stashing the cameras, I came back over the fence to meet the Police.

After a chat with them I was arrested for unlawfully being in an enclosed yard and taken to the Levin cop shop to be processed. Rochelle was left on the side of the road with our ginger kitten to play with.

Before leaving the Police unlawfully searched my car. We called our lawyer and confirmed that the search was unlawful because a search pursuant to arrest can only be carried out if the person is charged with something carrying a penalty of at least six months imprisonment. Unlawfully being in an enclosed yard only carries a penalty of three months.

Rochelle requested that they stop searching the car and told them that the search was unlawful; when they would not listen she tried to pass them the cell phone to talk to our lawyer, however they were not interested and confiscated stuff from the car anyway.

Rochelle went to talk to the Senior Police Officer about the search and was assaulted by the female slaughterhouse owner, who grabbed the cell phone out of her hand and hung up on the lawyer. The Police had to step in to stop her and get the cell phone back.

I was processed at the Levin Police Station fairly quickly, yay for small towns, they even drove me back to my car and escorted me out of town cos I am no longer allowed anywhere near Levin. Rochelle and I thought this Police escort was hilarious as we blasted ‘fuck the law’ from our car.

After speaking with our lawyer she thinks I have a good case because filming is not an unlawful purpose. I have court in Levin at 9am this Thursday 17th of December.

We will be having a demo outside the court and then moving it on the slaughterhouse afterwards. It would be good if people can come as we would like to get local media.

The slaughterhouse is owned by Henry Poultry Farm.

[rocky – with the greatest of respect – I’ve deleted the contact details – please reconsider whether it’s a good idea to post such things here? — r0b]

[r0b-fair enough. I had about 5 minutes of internet earlier (I’ve now figured out how to use the old 2G vodem lprent gave me) and copied and pasted what Jasmine had written up for our animal rights private mailing list. I think getting people to contact the owner is a valid protest action, but I guess posting on a private list is a little different to posting in a public forum where there is absolutely no control over what people decide to do with those contact details. I will think more carefully about it in future. — rocky]

156 comments on “Levin Arrest and Police Escort”

  1. vto 1

    ha ha that’s excellent rocky jasmine. I committed something naughty and against the law today and if the police find out then I could do with some assistance too. What you say? Back me too?

    • wtl 1.1

      I guess you can post your story on your blog, and people can make up their own minds. I’m guessing if it was under similar circumstances, rocky/jasmine whoever would back you. Though I’m thinking your going to do something totally different, but your assuming that if someone thinks it is ok to break to law for this purpose, it must be okay to break the law for EVERYTHING. What a weak argument.

    • rocky 1.2

      Depends. 1. Did you actually break the law? We think we didn’t, but even if we did it was very minor and for something we couldn’t achieve any other way. 2. Was yours for a protest action, saving lives, or anything else that you could argue was your moral duty? Or was it for personal gain? As Ghandi said “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty”.

  2. vto 2

    Is this one of those Just Wars that Obama talks about?

    If so then why was Bush not just?

  3. todd 3

    I wonder what you would do if you caught someone on your property filming.
    Say hi,just carry on.I think not.Police nearly always over react they spend all day every day dealing with lowlife (not accusing you of being lowlife just making a point).

    • Rex Widerstrom 3.1

      So… police break the law with impunity whenever they damn well feel like it and it’s our fault because we shouldn’t piss them off.

      I’m having to work on a 37 degree Saturday because idiot clients couldn’t get their s**t together on time. Does that give me the right to pop downstairs and rough up the bloke who (if the smell is anything to go by) is giving his underpants their annual boil?

      The girls’ car shouldn’t have been searched. To do so was illegal. It begins and ends there.

      Jasmine and rocky, I sincerely hope you sue.

      • lukas 3.1.1

        Do you think the property owner whose property rights were violated should sue too Rex?

        • Pascal's bookie 3.1.1.1

          If they want to.

          What’s your point?

        • rocky 3.1.1.2

          If they like – more attention to our cause 😉

          Answer something for me if you can: How can we get evidence of what happens behind closed doors without entering without permission? Permission is never given when we request it, and if we don’t have video and photographic evidence, we get accused of lying or exaggerating. I can’t think of an example of footage being played on TV of factory farms that wasn’t obtained that way by animal rights activists.

          • Hugh 3.1.1.2.1

            Well, here’s a thought – maybe the right to know what’s going on behind closed doors is not, in fact, a right? For instance, if I really desired to know what my neighbours were doing in their bedroom would I be justified in breaking into their house to film them because there’s ‘no other way of finding out’?

            Granted my example isn’t parallel to yours and your cause is obviously more admirable, even for people who don’t believe in it, than prurient fascination in somebody else’s sex life. But I think the language you’re using here is unlikely to persuade anybody who isn’t already your ally, is all I’m saying.

            Obviously none of this changes the fact that the police did indeed break the law in the way they dealt with you.

        • Rex Widerstrom 3.1.1.3

          I’m not sure they’d have a cause of action, lukas. I’m assuming the girls did no damage and stole nothing, in which case I can’t see the basis of a tort for damages.

          If they did, then if the owners wished to that is their rigjht.

          However, the point is that I hold a sworn police officer, given immense power over ordinary citizens, to a higher standard. Is that not reasonable?

    • rocky 3.2

      I wonder what you would do if you caught someone on your property filming.
      Say hi,just carry on.I think not.

      You’re right there todd – if I saw someone filming on my property I would assume it was the police or a private investigation firm and get very concerned. The issue isn’t the action, but the reasons for it and whether the purpose was unlawful. If the purpose is to burgle, or to spy it is unlawful. Private Investigators would be acting unlawfully as they are governed by the Private Investigators and Security Guards Act 1974. Police would be acting unlawfully without a warrant. Wanting to film for the sake of filming is not illegal in itself. If you’ve been asked to leave or trespassed then it is unlawful.

      Police nearly always over react they spend all day every day dealing with lowlife (not accusing you of being lowlife just making a point).

      True, but it is the measure of a good cop in my opinion who can take every case as it comes without ingrained prejudice.

  4. Nick C 4

    “I was processed at the Levin Police Station fairly quickly, yay for small towns, they even drove me back to my car and escorted me out of town cos I am no longer allowed anywhere near Levin. Rochelle and I thought this Police escort was hilarious as we blasted ‘fuck the law’ from our car.”

    So despite the police being polite and reasonable you still abused them? Classy.

    • rocky 4.1

      It was all done in good humour. Both Jasmine and I were laughing all the way out of town. We waved at the police behind us and they waved back.

      The more senior policeman seemed quite nice and reasonable, but the other two had a real attitude problem and wouldn’t even discuss with me the fact that they were doing an unlawful search. They have also confiscated $7,000 worth of camera gear from Jasmine, so we weren’t particularly happy about that.

  5. Eric 5

    Good on you Jasmine and Rochelle. It’s only through actions like yours that blatant animal cruelty is exposed. Normal legal channels don’t work, because these industries write the very codes that exempt this cruelty from the Animal Welfare Act in the first place. It’s a catch 22 situation.

  6. Marty G 6

    kitten in the backseat in the pic. very cute

    • Lanthanide 6.1

      Um, you let your kitten just walk around inside your car unrestrained?

      That could be very dangerous if it were to get in the way of the drivers’ feet.

      • rocky 6.1.1

        Yes he walks around unrestrained. Jasmine was driving, I was looking after the baby. He’s an orphan, and I’ve had him since he was 2 weeks old. He’s now 6 weeks old and only started eating solids a week ago. He’s still too slow to get anywhere fast, so I’m in full control. He wanders around the car, but isn’t allowed anywhere near the driver. He has a litter tray on the floor in the back seat and finds it when he needs to go. He even jumps in and out of the boot as it’s a station wagon. I can’t see anything dangerous about it!

        • Lew 6.1.1.1

          So … dare I ask what the wee critter eats?

          L

          • rocky 6.1.1.1.1

            Sure… he was on kitten formula, which I think is just cows milk with the lactose taken out and the vitamins kittens need added. Not 100% sure what it was and don’t have the box anymore, but it is meant for kittens and puppies who are orphaned or whose mothers won’t feed them.

            He went onto solids just over a week ago, and now eats kitten biscuits and meat.

            He’s also quite good at attempting to eat me by chewing on my ears, fingers and toes 🙂 What a shame his teeth are getting bigger!

            • Lew 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Meat, HAH!

              Cue arcane discussion on whether it’s more inhumane to require a carnivorous animal to eschew meat, or to kill other animals to feed it.

              : )

              L

              • rocky

                Somehow I had a feeling you were going to say that! Perhaps that’s best left for a quiet sunday afternoon post some time when I can be bothered 😉 I could actually argue either side of that debate.

              • felix

                My kitties always preferred fish and chicken which seemed to make sense to me.

                I could never get my head around the idea of feeding a cow to a cat though. Just can’t imagine it happening in the wild.

              • gitmo

                Except for those large moggies with stripes or spots.

                I’ve found the domestic chaps they go nuts for ham.

              • felix

                Never had one of them big one’s at home. And yeah what’s with the ham? You can get a cat to do just about anything by strategically waving bits of ham around.

                Couldn’t imagine a cat taking down a pig IRL though.

  7. illuminatedtiger 7

    No better time to say FUCK THE POLICE!

  8. Noko 8

    Rochelle and I thought this Police escort was hilarious as we blasted ‘fuck the law’ from our car.

    Seriously?
    I’m all for exposing the farms for what they are, but christ…

  9. infused 9

    You guys sound like you’re 15. This is what my mates were doing at that age. I thought it was stupid then, it’s stupid now. The way you acted derails you so called ’cause’.

    Have fun going through the court system if you wish to fight this. Something stupid like this will cost a lot of money.

  10. Santi 10

    I expect the sentence to be 10 years in prison, with no parole.
    That will teach you not to trespass.

    • lprent 10.1

      Interesting, and you’d presumably retroactively rewrite the law as well. As I remember, trespass requires a notice not to. Which I’d guess that Jasmine now has.

      What were the actual charges? I didn’t see them in the post.

      BTW: It probably wouldn’t teach much. It is hard to trespass in prison.

      • Santi 10.1.1

        I hope you apply the same twisted and perverse logic if someone breaks into your flat/house camera in hand to take a few pics.

        These two young hoons deserve to be punished, not just for their foolishness, but their criminal intent.

        • Draco T Bastard 10.1.1.1

          What criminal intent?

        • lprent 10.1.1.2

          You probably need to learn some law. It is always incredible what daft ideas some people have.

          You have to show criminal intent (to do what? film – what law prohibits that?) or criminal action or be covered by other specific laws (ie like the police, spca, or private investigators).

          If they’d done something to the locks, then they would have been in the gun for a criminal action. Since they didn’t and had no criminal intent, then it is likely that the charges will be dismissed.

          All that can usually be done without manufacturing ‘evidence’ (as often happens to activists) is to issue a trespass notice.

          What you fail to understand is that activists seldom break the law. They usually know it better than the police.

          • Santi 10.1.1.2.1

            Activists? My ass. Eco-terrorists is more appropriate.

            By the way, lprent post your home address here. I promise I’ll break into the place without damaging any locks, just to take a few pics that I will post in the net.

            I assume that for you is OK when the shoe is in the other foot, isn’t it?

            • QoT 10.1.1.2.1.1

              Jesus Christ, if there were ever a clearer, apparently unconscious example of “one person’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter” I haven’t seen it.

              Santi, exactly what purpose would be served by photos of the inside of lprent’s residence? Is meat destined for human consumption butchered there? Does it get a picture of a happy chicken and the words “barn-raised” slapped on it with the express purpose of selling a lie to people? Is the state of lprent’s living room actually pertinent to anything going on in other people’s lives? Talk about a false bloody analogy.

              • Santi

                Unadulterated tosh and pure bollocks.

                Are the slaughterhouse activities illegal? No, they are not.

                According to your hare-brained theory then it’s OK for teetotallers to trespass on breweries, for vegetarians to trespass on abattoirs, for non-smokers to trespass on cigarette factories, for homeless people to tresspass on anyone’s home.

                The two eco-terrorists deserve every bit of punishment that comes their way. I hope the justice system is NOT lenient with them.

              • QoT

                Did I mention the word “illegal”, Santi? Oh, wait, no, that’s just your strawman.

                My point, if you genuinely missed it, is that the poultry and pork and frankly all meat-for-human-consumption industries owe a great deal of success to people’s lack of knowledge – sometimes deliberate lack of knowledge – about how the meat got from the farmyard to their plate. Rocky and Jasmine worked to change that. Your somewhat creepy desire to rifle through lprent’s personal belongings serves no equivalent purpose. Your analogy is thus full of crap.

                I think it’s hilarious you mention cigarette companies- who DID lie about research showing the addictiveness of nicotine and the link between smoking and lung cancer, and who WERE in some part uncovered by “illegal” acts. The rest of the things you “extrapolate” from my comment just stand as marvellous proof that you have no actual argument to offer.

            • lprent 10.1.1.2.1.2

              Look it up. The one at InternetNZ is out of date at present because I haven’t got around to updating the new address on my domains. I’d suggest that you wait until Xmas when I have time to do so.

              Of course you’ll have to deal with the monitored alarm and security callout.

              It’d be interesting to know what you expect to find here?

          • lukas 10.1.1.2.2

            sweet Iprent, can you email me your address so I can come around at my leisure and start filming?

            Then, I will place a story about it on a website, including your phone number and address so everyone can call you about it.

            • lprent 10.1.1.2.2.1

              I already answered that to Santi.

              Incidentally did you never notice our standing policy here (that rOb roasted rocky over). We don’t publish real names, phone numbers, IP numbers, e-mails, and addresses. Have a look in policy. We also don’t publish personal financial details, welfare status, etc.

              For that kind of violation of privacy you really have to go and ask NACT ministers like Paula Bennett who seem to be happy to do it.

              For that matter, the police seem to find it easy as well. When rocky was arrested at age 17 and her diaries seized, and after her mother complained about the search because she was 17 and the search had been done without a parent present. One of the police attempted to fill her mother in with personal thoughts from rockys diaries. I wonder if the arseholes in the TAU kept a copy?

              • lukas

                no problem Iprent, you have my email address, a fair few people here know my full name and finding out where I live is not that hard either for anyone with half a brain.

                So I can come around and film your place, then post the details on a website?

                • lprent

                  Lukas: Already answered. Are you too lazy to look stuff up in a week or so after I update the domains?

                  I fail to see your interest in my washing, books, or computers. rocky has a strong interest in animal welfare, that is why she entered a place that could have violations of the animal welfare codes. She has a clear interest and from memory members of the public do have a duty to report crimes when they find them.

                  BTW: I’m uninterested in you – why would I want your name of address? You don’t exactly rise high in my list of people who I’d gain information or insights from.

      • rocky 10.1.2

        The charges are in the post – according to the police bail form, the charge is called unlawfully being in an enclosed yard.

        What that actually means (and I can never understand why the police don’t just put the section and Act you’re charged under on the bail form), is Jasmine is charged under Section 29(1)(b) of the Summary Offences Act 1981.

        That means she is charged with being in the enclosed yard without reasonable excuse – hence why I don’t think the police arrested her unlawfully, but I think she will get off in court. The Act says that the police don’t have to prove an unlawful purpose, but that proving a there was no unlawful purpose (ie proving a purpose that isn’t unlawful) is a defense. There is plenty of case law on point that interprets the Act in our favour.

  11. TightyRighty 11

    You were just hanging out in levin? and you just flippantly decided to go check out a slaughterhouse? that sounds like such a crock, it could almost be construed as intent to break and enter.

    but anyway, “fuck the law” blasting from your car? what a rebel. your parents must really have their hands full with you.

    • rocky 11.1

      You were just hanging out in levin? and you just flippantly decided to go check out a slaughterhouse? that sounds like such a crock, it could almost be construed as intent to break and enter.

      Perhaps you need to get a sense of humour, I thought it obvious that we didn’t mean it literally!

      but anyway, “fuck the law’ blasting from your car? what a rebel. your parents must really have their hands full with you.

      You start to enjoy that sort of music when you’ve been screwed by the system a few times. As for my parents – my entire family have respect for what I do – even my grandparents who used to be farmers.

      • TightyRighty 11.1.1

        Wow, you really are setting yourself up for an intent charge aren’t you?

        “but anyway, “fuck the law’ blasting from your car? what a rebel. your parents must really have their hands full with you.”

        “You start to enjoy that sort of music when you’ve been screwed by the system a few times. As for my parents my entire family have respect for what I do even my grandparents who used to be farmers.”

        and to follow up my comment saying I need to get a sense of humour? maybe you need to take yourself a bit less seriously? your immaturity is amazing given that i need to get a sense of humour for pointing out something that looks like chicken, talks like a chicke, probably is a chicken, and then you turn around and get all bent out of shape because i make a sarcastic remark.

        but anyway, i can see your point of view regarding your choice of music, i wonder if you’d feel the same way if neo-nazi scum listened to their music of choice because they felt they had been screwed over by the jewish people? it’s not a godwins, it’s just the only group that are probably diametrically opposed to what you believe in who listen to a type of music, others, including myself, detest.

  12. Brett 12

    You remind me of a female version of the character Rick from the that old TV series
    “The young ones”.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Ones_(TV_series)#Rick

  13. I hate animal cruelty and wish this type of farming would stop.

    You cant blame the police on this one, if you trespassing on someones property that’s a crime.

    If you came home and someone was on your property taking pictures you would call the police also.

    This anti police thing thing that some people on the left have doesnt help your cause.

    • felix 13.1

      Brett,

      Why can’t you blame the police for their illegal search?

    • rocky 13.2

      We weren’t trespassing – read the Trespass Act 1980. Trespassing only occurs when you refuse to leave a property after being asked to. We left as soon as we were asked to. The police then told me I was trespassed for 2 years, so I won’t be returning until then (aside from to protest outside the premises).

      This anti police thing thing that some people on the left have doesnt help your cause.

      I’m not anti-police, and I start every encounter with the police with a fresh slate and assume they will do their job professionally. I’m still like that despite the number of bad apples I’ve had to deal with over the years. That’s why I was very clear that the senior policeman in this case was quite reasonable, though the two constables with him weren’t very pleasant.

      I don’t believe the arrest was unlawful, however I do believe they got the law wrong. That’s fine, it’s for the courts to decide. The search however was clearly unlawful, and having the police refuse to even talk about it with my lawyer annoys the hell out of me.

  14. I reread your post, I think you need to grow up, you said you blasted out “F*ck the law”

    How old are you 14??????

    You remind me of all the young idiots we have hanging out at the mall who scream out “F you Pig” and then giggle like little school girls thinking they are funny.

    Do you really think we have it bad with the police here?????

    Thanks for wasting the Police’s time, they have more important things to do.

    I only hope you get a big fine.

    • rocky 14.1

      Do you really think we have it bad with the police here?????

      Hmmmm… having my house raided when I was 17 and having 3 big men in my house searching through all my personal stuff? How about at 21-22 being in a relationship with someone who was paid for 10 years to spy on my friends and I? How about having my computer, cellphone, video camera etc stolen by the police and kept for months, and then the courts finding my actions were not unlawful?

      How about my best friend having his house raided for handing a letter to the receptionist of Tegel to protest about how they treat their chickens, and having his house raided and his car stolen and kept for weeks? We found out later that the search warrant was dated the day after the raids. Not only that, my friend was a school teacher and they even took the keys to his classroom.

      How about my friend being arrested and released without charge, but the police still confiscated his cellphone and the remote to turn off the alarm to his car, under the guise the remote could be some sort of bomb trigger?

      How about continuously being arrested for things that the courts later determine to be lawful? I set a precedent in the High Court that chanting on a megaphone at a protest is not disorderly behaviour, yet the police have arrested me again since for exactly the same thing.

      You remind me of all the young idiots we have hanging out at the mall who scream out “F you Pig’ and then giggle like little school girls thinking they are funny.

      Not my style. As above, I start ever encounter with police politely and professionally. I have been praised by many police for being reasonable and polite. When the police arrived to raid my house I said something along the lines of “I hate what you’re doing but I know you’re just doing your job. Would you like a coffee?”. I then made them coffee and was very polite. Unfortunately one of the three in my house was very rude and offensive towards me, the other two at least were a bit more respectful.

      Thanks for wasting the Police’s time, they have more important things to do.

      Yes they do, and they could do those things instead of wasting time on us. We hear all these stories about police not turning up to emergencies, yet huge amounts of police resources are channelled into anti-terror units whose sole focus is activists. Do you realise there are at least 30 police officers working full time solely on activist surveillance?

  15. Tim Ellis 15

    I’d like to think that the Police would have more important things to do than deal with a couple of trouble makers who want to do a few publicity stunts.

    Rocky as a Labour Party activisit I don’t think the sort of voters that Mr Goff wants to win back would be impressed with these sorts of stunts.

    • IrishBill 15.1

      Another lame attempt at a wedge Mr. Ellis? You really are a one trick pony.

      • Tim Ellis 15.1.1

        No IB I just think it isn’t a good look, just as it wasn’t a good look for the wild greens to go about pulling up crops in a GE trial a few years back. It also concerns me that there aren’t more mature people in the party warning these kids about the effects of criminal convictions on their future, both in employment prospects and ability to travel.

        • QoT 15.1.1.1

          Concern troll! In the dungeon! Thought you should know.

        • outofbed 15.1.1.2

          I can’t work out if that was an attempt at humour or you are being serious

        • grumpy 15.1.1.3

          Sorry Tim, can’t agree with you on this. Wild Greens pulling up GE crops is a legitimate protest, this is just a couple of young loopies with nothing beter to do while “hanging out” in Levin. Might as well have pulled a few wheelies or tagged a couple of fences.

          Interesting that the same property laws they broke are the ones they rely on when complaining of the police search.

          Correctly summarised by a few contributors as the actions of 15 yr olds.

    • rocky 15.2

      Tim Ellis I don’t answer to anyone, and certainly not Goff. I’m me, and I’m more an animal rights activist than a labour party activist. Why try and tar the labour party with my actions? I act of my own accord and without permission from anyone.

    • lprent 15.3

      She is a animal rights activist first and foremost. Always has been, probably always will be.

      For that matter I’m a programmer first and foremost. I have a variety of other interests including this site. Somewhere in there is being a labour party activist.

      One of the reasons that I’ve never held a position in the labour party above branch chairperson (and they had to fight to get me to do that) is because I’d have to consider the balance between what I do for them, and other things.

      For instance this site runs completely outside any of my labour activities. It is a good thing too given the glacial nature of some of the decision making processes in the party. The site would have probably never gotten off the ground if it’d had to go through meetings.

      I suspect that you have a quite a different idea about what a party activist is than I do. You make it sound like an employee position with the responsibilities that entails?

      For me an activist inside a party is someone who is trying to push for certain things inside the party, and who contributes their time and effort freely. The party hierarchy can ask me to do things. They can’t tell me what to do outside of what I agreed to in my membership.

  16. mike 16

    “Rochelle and I thought this Police escort was hilarious as we blasted ‘fuck the law’ from our car.”

    You guys are all class – grow up for ffs

  17. hahaha

    all the righties in the house say, obeeee-ey.

    Authoritarian little shits.

    The only complaints about the police in the post are that they exceeded their legal authority in a few aspects. And y’all are sticking up for them.

    • Tim Ellis 17.1

      So the police searched their car after these girls were behaving illegally and obnoxiously? They were lucky they were only charged with being in a yard unlawfully. They should have been charged with breaking and entering as well.

      It’s funny how law breakers resort to “oh, the police offended me” defences when they get caught pulling off stunts like this.

      PB, I think the police should act within the law, but I don’t encourage young people breaking the law, causing a general nuisance and being disrespectful towawrds the police.

      • Sam 17.1.1

        Right so what you’re saying is that if you’re a naughty person (as defined by the law) then the police have the right to do whatever they want to you or your property?

        Hypocritical much?

        • Pascal's bookie 17.1.1.1

          Yep Sam, that’s exactly what he’s saying. Tim just believes in ‘Order’. The rule of law bit, not so much.

        • gitmo 17.1.1.2

          Did you pass the comprehension section of English in School C ?

          • Sam 17.1.1.2.1

            I evidently did whole lot better than you did…

            • gitmo 17.1.1.2.1.1

              Really ?

              So how do you extrapolate

              “so what you’re saying is that if you’re a naughty person (as defined by the law) then the police have the right to do whatever they want to you or your property?”

              from

              “So the police searched their car after these girls were behaving illegally and obnoxiously?” and

              “PB, I think the police should act within the law, but I don’t encourage young people breaking the law, causing a general nuisance and being disrespectful towawrds the police.”

              I mean I might take from your comment

              “I evidently did whole lot better than you did..”

              that you interfere with No 7 tegel chickens.

              • Pascal's bookie

                Why did you selectively quote TE there git?

                Here’s what he said:

                So the police searched their car after these girls were behaving illegally and obnoxiously? They were lucky they were only charged with being in a yard unlawfully. They should have been charged with breaking and entering as well.

                That quote clearly, to anyone that can read, implies that the police behaved with restraint and that “They were lucky” because the police could have, and perhaps should have, done even more.

                That implies whatever Tim’s protestations about thinking the police should act within the law, that he thinks they were justified in this case, and were in fact lenient.

                That if you are a ‘naughty person’ ( as subjectively defined by the police) , you should “think yourself lucky” if the police just illegally search you instead of also slapping some bs charges on you as well, (which is what they should do, in Tim’s view)

      • Akldnut 17.1.2

        FFS Timmy – where in this post did you read this that they were arrested after being obnoxious,

        ob·nox·ious
        adj: Very annoying or objectionable; offensive or odious

        the obnoxious behavior occurred;

        1. Rochelle requested that they stop searching the car and told them that the search was unlawful; when they would not listen she tried to pass them the cell phone to talk to our lawyer, however they were not interested and confiscated stuff from the car anyway.

        2. “Rochelle went to talk to the Senior Police Officer about the search and was assaulted by the female slaughterhouse owner, who grabbed the cell phone out of her hand and hung up on the lawyer. The Police had to step in to stop her and get the cell phone back.”

        3. Rochelle and I thought this Police escort was hilarious as we blasted ‘fuck the law’ from our car.

        Which of these is most important to you? Breaking the law, assault or harmless (albeit disrespectful) music.

        Jasmine hasn’t denied she broke a law, she will & should be processed accordingly. As should anyone else who has broken the law throughout this incident.

      • rocky 17.1.3

        Tim Ellis it was broad daylight, and we didn’t break and enter. We climbed over a fence and took some photos. Clearly in your eyes that makes us dangerous criminals. You have supported my posts on factory farming, but how would the public now know about factory farming if not for actions like this?

        When the owners turned up they called the police. Rather than trying to run or anything we just waited around for the police to arrive. We’re quite prepared to stand up and tell the world what we do and accept any consequences. What you need to realise is that we most likely weren’t doing anything illegal, and if we were at most we’ll get a small fine. A small price to pay to get the truth out there!

  18. gitmo 18

    What exactly were you attempting to make a point about with your pictures ?

    • rocky 18.1

      You mean why were we taking photos of a layer hen slaughterhouse?

      Because around 90% of layer hens in this country live in cages where they can’t even flap their wings. Documenting their death as the last part of their horrible lives is important, as even that final process shows the total disregard we (humans) have for the fear and suffering endured by hens.

      Await the release of our investigations on this topic in the near future and hopefully you’ll then understand. Hopefully we will have the opportunity to show New Zealanders how these processes work here in much the same way that most people now know how pigs and layer hens are raised.

  19. I just find it immature that they thought it was funny that they played fuck the law.

    I expected that behavior from some of the 15 year old boy racers out there.

    • rocky 19.1

      You have to find things like that funny when you’ve been through it a few times. The whole process becomes far less intimidating and more of a joke when you’re confident you really haven’t done anything wrong. A joke in a laugh so you don’t cry kind of way.

  20. BLiP 20

    Heh! The hypocrisy of the right sticks its troll like head up in these comments. A minor breach of the law is labelled “terrorism” and the breaking of the law by police labelled perfectly understandable. Can you imagine the howling there would be if it was the tax department breaking a minor law to investigate the illegal actions of corporates?

    So much for the right’s concern for individuals.

  21. Steve 21

    One day Rochelle and Jasmin may need help from the Police.
    Let’s see the humour then you silly children

    • QoT 21.1

      Damn straight, Steve! Because the Police should never act professionally and within the bounds of law regardless of who they are called upon to help. The protection of the law only applies to people you agree with, amirite?

      Captcha: “disappears” OH COME ON, PEOPLE.

      • Steve 21.1.1

        What is the matter with you QoT?
        If someone was to invade Rochelle’s or Jasmine’s private property, they would be the first to complain the Police about trespass charges.
        All very funny huh? until it happens to you. Typical of todays’ youth.

        • QoT 21.1.1.1

          What “matters to me” is your implication that won’t it be funny if one day Rocky or Jasmine need the Police’s help, and presumably the Police don’t because of their present acts.

          Jasmine is not complaining because she may now be issued with trespass. She and Rocky are complaining because the Police searched their car illegally – and then apparently had nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon that give them an escort to the city limits.

          If they are ever the victims of crime themselves I am sure they will want to know that the Police conduct any investigation in a professional and ethical manner.

          • Steve 21.1.1.1.1

            Would never have happened if Rochelle and Jasmine did not break the LAW in the first place. The POLICE where just upholding Community standards. Tell me who it was that had nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon?
            Fair comment? That forest is a bit woody huh?

        • rocky 21.1.1.2

          What trespass charges are you referring to?

  22. Transparent 22

    It matters not, Steve, if Jasmine and Rochelle broke the law, they are ready to answer to for that. What matters is that the police excercised an illegal search and seizure, leaving the woman out of a $7000 camera and will probably delete the film taken beforem the women get it back, if they ever do. If the police broke the law they should be prosecuted for it in the same way that Rochelle and Jasmine will be. But we all know that the “independant police complaints authority” will no doubt give these law breakers a clean bill of health so they will be able to continue to break the law in order to fll their arrest quotas. What will you have to say when they stop you and decide that you need to have your car searched for NO LEGAL REASON WHATSOEVER? Until it’s happened toyou you have no idea just how powerless you asre in the face of the so called defenders of the law.

  23. felix 23

    Hands up everyone who thinks the police should be allowed to search and seize anything and anyone they want to, regardless of what the law says?

    Todd? lukas? Steve? Tim Ellis? gitmo? Santi? Brett Dale?

    Nail your colours to the mast and state now your honest thoughts.

    • gitmo 23.1

      hands up everyone who fucks pigs c’mon c’mon

      • felix 23.1.1

        I don’t follow, git. People above have expressed views that the police were justified in making an illegal search and seizure.

        How is asking them to clarify their position on that in any way a pigfucker question?

        • gitmo 23.1.1.1

          Felix

          The police were responding to illegal act by two persons as part of that response they had a look inside the car and took items that might be relevant to the illegal act.

          That is somewhat different from

          “Hands up everyone who thinks the police should be allowed to search and seize anything and anyone they want to, regardless of what the law says?”

          hence the porcine shaggin……… I’m still puzzled as to what they were protesting about/trying to achieve.

          • felix 23.1.1.1.1

            I understand the sequence of events as you do – no argument.

            It appears that you don’t realise that the police aren’t allowed to search your car.

            • gitmo 23.1.1.1.1.1

              There’s a pretty slim chance of the police searching someone’s car if they ain’t misbehaving in the first place.

              In fact in NZ there’s a pretty slim chance of “the police searching and seizing anything and anyone they want to, regardless of what the law says” if they ain’t misbehaving in the first place.

              • gitmo

                And before you ask ….. I have no problem with the police acting as they did in this instance.

              • felix

                So for you, an acceptable standard for the police to adhere to is to work within the law unless dealing with potential lawbreakers, in which case fuck it.

                Is that close?

              • gitmo

                No not close – you enjoy putting things in peoples mouths don’t you ?

              • felix

                gitmo,

                What are you saying then?

                I don’t want to put things in your mouth (oo err) but if this:

                There’s a pretty slim chance of the police searching someone’s car if they ain’t misbehaving in the first place.

                doesn’t mean that you think it’s ok for the police to do so then what does it mean?

                I think you’re having trouble with this because you don’t know what the police actually are allowed to do by law. If you know that the police aren’t legally allowed to search a car in these circumstances but you support them doing so then you are supporting them breaking the law.

              • felix

                Where are you, gitmo? You were so close to taking a position and then… nothing.

              • gitmo

                I thought I had taken a position.

                I think it’s ok for the police to search a car in circumstances such as these, I don’t think it’s ok for the police to search and seize anything and anyone they want to, regardless of what the law says.

                But then again I’d like to see the police allowed to taser drunken louts, boy racers and gingas so am probably a bit more towards the authoritarian side of life.

              • felix

                So you believe the law should be changed to allow the police to search in what circumstances?

              • felix

                Come on gitmo, you’re so close – do you want the law changed or do you want it ignored?

            • lukas 23.1.1.1.1.2

              Felix, even you must admit that there was a very simple way of stopping Rocky from having her car searched…. she should not have trespassed.

              How do we even know the events happened as they were laid out in the post? I certainly wouldn’t trust someone who breaks into other people’s property.

              • lprent

                Go to court on the 17th in Levin. They are public and the facts that the police have will be laid out then.

              • felix

                1. She didn’t. That’s not what trespassing means.

                2. Assuming that the post is accurate (and that’s all we have to go on so let’s stick with that version for now) the police had no legal authority to search the car.

                This is very simple stuff, lukas. You either think the police should operate within the law or you don’t. There isn’t a “sometimes” option.

                There also isn’t an “except-when-dealing-with-someone-accused-of-breaking-the-law” option for reasons which should be very obvious.

                I get the feeling reading this thread that a lot of you don’t even realise that the police are bound to follow the law.

              • felix

                Oh lukas, there is one more option available to you:

                It may be that you disagree with the law and would like it changed to allow the police to be able to search cars at will or search the car of anyone arrested, perhaps.

                That’s a valid position and if someone would take it we could have a discussion about it. But no-one has yet.

              • felix

                Come on lukas, put that communications degree to some use and take a tenable position.

              • lukas

                Sorry felix, forgot about this

                The fact that the trespass law carries a maximum sentence of 3 months is pretty stupid, if I found someone unlawfully on my property I would want their car searched, how do the police know that Rocky and her friends (who obviously can not be trusted) did not take anything from the farm?

              • felix

                So the question is do you want the law changed or just ignored?

              • lukas

                actually Felix, I just did a quick read of the Search and Surveillance Bill, there is no mention of the six month minimum sentence, seems that the Police may have acted lawfully, happy to be corrected on that though.

                You can have a quick look at the Act here- http://legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2009/0045/latest/viewpdf.aspx?search=qs_all%40act%40bill%40regulation_search_resel&p=1

                • lprent

                  The Search and Surveillance Bill is a Bill … That means it isn’t law yet. I think that will qualify you as the dufus of the day for lack of attention to the political and legislative processes

                  Rocky can point you to the relevant legislation, but it is probably in the current Crimes act.

                  Incidentally rocky has been making a study of the SS bill. If you want to know more, ask her. She will give you chapter and verse on the bits she thinks are good or bad in it.

              • rocky

                lukas it’s not the trespass law Jasmine was charged with, it’s the Summary Offences Act 1981.

                As for the Search and Surviellance Bill, there’s a reason it’s called a bill, not an act. It’s not law yet!

              • lukas

                sorry, you are right, like I said, quick read through.

                What Act prohibits police search for sentences under six months?

                • lprent

                  Offhand I don’t know. rocky will (she needs to know, and she is studying law).

                  However I’d suspect the current version of the Crimes Act.

              • felix

                I’m not as interested in the specifics of this particular case as I am in people’s views on the principles surrounding it.

                That’s why I keep asking you (and others) to take a position on:

                a. what you think are appropriate circumstances for the police to be allowed to search a car, and

                b. whether you’re calling for the law to be changed to allow this or for the police to simply carry on ignoring the law.

                So far you, gitmo and a few others have stated that you approve of the police searching a car in a (hypothetical) case such as the one discussed in the post.

                No-one though has made a clear statement of whether they support the law being changed to allow the police to do so,

                AND (perhaps more importantly)

                no-one has made any effort to outline the parameters of such a law change.

                I suspect that none of you want to put your hands up and call for an expansion of police powers but you’ve all expressed that expanded police powers are acceptable to you in this specific (hypothetical) case.

                As you’ve taken that position the onus is on you to define what sort of law change you’re calling for – for example:

                searching the house or car of anyone arrested for anything? searching the house or car of anyone suspected of anything?
                searching the house and car of anyone questioned?

                It’s not enough to say you want the law changed so Rocky’s car can be searched, but this is as far as any of you have been prepared to go so far.

                (Unless of course you don’t want the law changed at all but would like the police to ignore it at will).

          • rocky 23.1.1.1.2

            The arrest was a response to what the police believed to be an unlawful act. The law prohibits them from searching a car without warrant unless they charge you with a crime carrying a penalty of at least 6 months in prison. This didn’t meet the criteria. Further than that, I’m not sure why you insist on calling this an “illegal act”. We are pretty confident that it wasn’t – we agree with the police on the facts, but not the law. It is up to a judge to decide the legality – why are you calling it an “illegal act” before that has been determined? I could point you towards a number of precedents from higher courts that suggest what we did wasn’t unlawful. Those will be the basis of Jasmine’s defence, and I’m pretty confident she’ll win!

    • Steve 23.2

      You two above are shit stirrers (Transparent and felix)
      This fiasco was instigated by people breaking the LAW and now you say the POLICE have broken the LAW by maybe bringing Rochelle and Jasmine to account?
      God you lefties think strange.
      We should allow every protester free access to any private property huh?
      Bottom line is ‘no respect’

      • Lew 23.2.1

        Steve,

        This fiasco was instigated by people breaking the LAW and now you say the POLICE have broken the LAW by maybe bringing Rochelle and Jasmine to account?

        No, the POLICE broke the LAW when they conducted an unLAWful search and seizure of private property. If the search had been LAWful, they wouldn’t have broken the LAW.

        God you lefties think strange.

        But we THINK.

        We should allow every protester free access to any private property huh?

        We should allow every POLICE officer free access to any private property owned by someone (suspected of) breaking the LAW, huh? I think there’s a term for that …

        Let’s be crystal fucking clear: Police arresting them for climbing the fence — all fine. Police searching their car and confiscating things unlawfully: not ok. Also a bit stupid on the police’s behalf because it gives Rocky and Jasmine’s lawyer something to work with. But that’s by the by. The bottom line is that rule of law needs to apply to everyone; police included.

        Those of you defending the police’s actions in this case aren’t far in principle from defending the fools who want to lock climate change deniers up in camps. If it can happen to them (Rocky and Jasmine or the deniers) then it can happen to YOU.

        L

      • felix 23.2.2

        I’m not stirring, Steve.

        Do you think the police should be allowed to break the law?

        It’s a straight question. My straight answer is “No”.

        What’s yours?

        • Steve 23.2.2.1

          Should Citizens be allowed to break the LAW?
          My answer is NO.
          Try and stay on the first provocation here without behaving like a jack in a box

          • felix 23.2.2.1.1

            It’s not a bar brawl, Steve. It’s not “who started it”.

            The police aren’t allowed to search your car except in quite specific circumstances. If this instance isn’t one of those specific circumstances (and on the face of it it seems unlikely to be) then they broke the law.

            You seem to be saying that the police can break the law as long as someone else “started it”.

            Do you not realise what that means? Think it through. All the police do most of the time is deal with people who are being accused of breaking laws. That’s the job. If the police are released from any obligation to obey the law when dealing with accused people then we would have an entirely lawless police force.

            That’s what you’re arguing for.

            Either that or you’re arguing that the police should usually obey the law except in this specific case. However you’ve offered no reason for normal adherence to the law to be waived in this case so the first scenario seems more likely.

            Tell me where I’m wrong here. I’ll listen.

          • felix 23.2.2.1.2

            Oh and sorry, I missed the other bit:

            Should Citizens be allowed to break the LAW?
            My answer is NO.

            Of course. That’s why they got arrested. The cops on the other hand also broke the law but it’s likely that nothing will come of it.

            That’s not good enough, Steve. We need the police to work within the law or what do we have?

          • felix 23.2.2.1.3

            Also also, why do you think the police aren’t citizens?

            Are you Brett Dale using another name?

            • lprent 23.2.2.1.3.1

              No. It is not Brett.

              From the context of his other remarks, I suspect that he is the Steve that runs a site that seems to be dedicated to defending the police. (don’t have the link around offhand).

              The police are citizens, it is defined that they are in the Police Act. They have certain powers and a pile of responsibilities. Some members of the police tend to forget the responsibilities and just concentrate on the powers. The hierarchy in the police that is meant to control those things is frequently somewhat lax about doing so. I suspect that Steve is one of them.

              As others have commented, the police have a pain of a job. However they are sworn to uphold the responsibilities as well as discharge their duties. There is no real excuse for one that doesn’t. If they can’t do it, then they should be discharged from the police.

              Incidentally one of the responsibilities of the police is to look for animal cruelty along with MAF and the SPCA. They don’t do it and they are by far the best resourced of the three. They just push it off to the SPCA which is a voluntary charitable organization with no government funding and severely limited resources.

              Perhaps they should. It would reduce the need for activists to have to document cases, and therefore reduce their workload in dealing with activists.

              • felix

                Ah, I just thought it might be Brett based on the incredible mass of stupid he managed to pack into such short remarks.

                At least Brett has an excuse. Years of listening to the most insipid country music has rotted most of his brain.

  24. Steve 24

    All this time Rochelle and Jasmine are laughing their tits of because people argue about something silly that they did.
    They will grow up, then again they may not.
    They will be contributers to The Standard

  25. TB 25

    I may well be wrong….If the police believed you had stolen property in you car, then they can search it. likewise equipment they suspect to be used in an attempted burglary or what ever you were doing can be confiscated as evidence. Your camera equipment may have evidence that you were in fact on the property and that you may have caused damage, stolen stuff etc.

    • rocky 25.1

      You are wrong. The police must either charge you with a serious crime (they didn’t), or get a search warrant from the courts. They didn’t seriously believe we had stolen property from the slaughterhouse in our car, because we were caught by the owners on the property and waited with the owners till the police arrived. There’s no way we would have had time to stash anything in the car.

      Your camera equipment may have evidence that you were in fact on the property and that you may have caused damage, stolen stuff etc.

      True, and they got the camera lawfully as it didn’t come out of the car. They stole a camera lense from the car, and how that proves anything I have no idea. They didn’t find any evidence of anything in the car, but my point is they had no right to search it in the first place.

      When my house was raided they didn’t even just take stuff relating to the offense I was charged with. They stole posters off my wall, old archives of newspaper articles, leaflets unrelated to the protest in question, banners, megaphones, computers, personal diaries (with nothing about activism in them at all), cellphones, the list goes on and on.

      When my house was raided they stole my video camera and kept it using the excuse that they needed it as evidence in court to prove I took the video footage of the protest. I offered to write a signed statement admitting to having taken video footage, and that the tape they had was in fact my footage from the event in question. They still refused to give my camera back.

      Jasmine and I have just admitted on a public forum that we did enter the property and take photographs. We’d never lie or try to deny it as that’s not how we work. When the police arrived Jasmine admitted to having been on the property. They never actually asked me if I had climbed the fence too, which is why only Jasmine was arrested. Of course I’ve now publicly admitted I did go over the fence, so the police can come and charge me if they like. I’m quite happy to test the case in the courts.

  26. yawn 26

    Gee whiz. Breaking and entering and now moaning the Police are doing their job. Be a different story if it was your house wouldn’;t it ‘rocky’, get a life.

    You entitled socialist moaners take the cake.

    [lprent: Has problems with punctuation as well. ]

  27. yawn 27

    BTW: Chickens are food.

  28. Felix:

    The police are welcomed to search me if they want, they may find a tad to many Randy Travis and Garth Brooks cds though.

    Anyway you are aware that most country artists are Liberal, Garth, Trisha, Ryan Adams, Chris Cagle, Natalie Maines, Darius Rucker?

    The music is very left wing, but Felix you being someone who stereotypes I guess its easy to have a false impression.

  29. felix:

    Just like someone of the left to prejudge something.

    Im sure I would feel the same about the music you listen to.

    Iprent:

    You cannot enter someone else property, it doesn’t matter if she has strong convictions,
    if she thought a crime was being committed she should of contacted the proper authorities.

    • lprent 29.1

      Brett you’re being naive. I’d suggest that you mail Carter and explain how he needs to fix the issue.

      If you feel that there is a problem to do with animal welfare on a farm then you can complain to the SPCA, the police, and probably MAF.

      Remember these are usually properties that you cannot see inside the sheds from outside the fence.

      MAF has a handful of inspectors for the whole country. So they won’t do it. Besides they’d ask you to provide evidence – that you cannot get because according to you, you are not allowed onto the property.

      The police will send you to the SPCA because they don’t want to deal with it.

      The SPCA will want to have evidence more than a idea that there might be an issue – that you cannot get because according to you, you are not allowed onto the property.

      So what you are actually saying is that nothing should be done. This is clearly iniquitous. When I see you starting to fix that problem, ie by having enough inspectors (preferably the police as there are more of them) with rights to enter to inspect ANY intensive farming without warning. Then I’ll take your issue seriously. In the meantime I’d say that public interest in the absence of ANY effective inspection system takes precedence.

      I’d point out that I’d love to not have rocky wanting to enter these damn properties. To do that there needs to be an effective inspection service looking at intensively farmed animals. Currently it doesn’t exist.

      Please push a rocket up Carters arse….

      • lukas 29.1.1

        “by having enough inspectors (preferably the police as there are more of them) with rights to enter to inspect ANY intensive farming without warning. Then I’ll take your issue seriously.”

        Yet you see a problem with the Police searching a car of someone who was trespassing?

        Captcha- funny … indeed

        • felix 29.1.1.1

          Not trespassing, lukas. That’s not what trespassing means.

          As for “seeing a problem” with the police searching a car, it’s illegal, lukas. It’s the law that “sees a problem” with it.

          Why you think some people should be subject to the law (Rocky and friend) while others should be exempt (the officers who performed the illegal search and seizure) is something you have yet to explain.

          Communication, lukas. Use it.

          • lukas 29.1.1.1.1

            Felix, there may be a case to be made under section 6 of the Trespass Act, as there probably was for the SAFE people and their pig farm filming.

          • lukas 29.1.1.1.2

            As for “seeing a problem’ with the police searching a car, it’s illegal, lukas. It’s the law that “sees a problem’ with it.

            that is if you take the word of someone who was on another persons property without permission, not exactly the must trustworthy person I would suggest.

            • felix 29.1.1.1.2.1

              Oh lukas if you doubt the whole story that’s fine but you should say that’s what you’re doing, otherwise we’re talking across one another.

              If it makes it easier for you we could talk about a hypothetical scenario exactly like the one in the post.

            • felix 29.1.1.1.2.2

              lukas I also notice you still haven’t responded to the other discussion we were having above.

              Are you going to take a position? So far no one has articulated a coherent one but with your communications background you should have no trouble doing so.

          • BLiP 29.1.1.1.3

            You gotta remember, this is the chap who thinks its okay to go around kicking in public hospital emergency department windows – one rule for him and another for the rest of us. Just like John Key subverting a Court order and then boasting about it on the front page like he’s some sort of hero.

            So far as this argument is concerned, Lukey-Pukey and the rest of the trolls need to get an urgent referral from the GP to a proctologist before they asphyxiate.

        • lprent 29.1.1.2

          Those organizations already have the rights to enter properties doing anything with animals and inspect them.

          MAF doesn’t have enough inspectors.
          SPCA is a charity and doesn’t have the resources.
          The NZ Police choose not to exercise their powers.

          It is left up to the animal rights activists to go in, document, and kick some activity into action where they find abuses.

          Why don’t you push to get a better animal handling regime in place?

  30. No, I’m not saying nothing should be done. But it doesn’t help your cause by playing “F*ck the law” on yuor car stereo.

    I’m sure the spca must have friends in the police force or there must be some politicians that are animal friendly.

    • felix 30.1

      You either haven’t read or haven’t understood anything in this thread, Brett.

      And you need to learn the difference between judging and prejudging.

  31. felix:

    Just because some doesn’t have your particular point of view, doesn’t mean they don’t understand.

    • felix 31.1

      Yes that’s true but that’s not why I said it.

      I said it because everything you’ve asked has already been answered several times in this very thread. You either haven’t read it or you haven’t understood it.

    • felix 31.2

      Also Brett:

      Just like someone of the left to prejudge something.

      I’m noting that as the best unintentional irony I’ve seen here. Do you understand why?

  32. Felix:

    No, go right ahead.

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  • Could There Be Method In Massey University’s Madness?
    Protective Zone: Reading the rules and guidelines released by Massey University, it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that its governing body considers the whole concept of free speech a disruptive threat to the orderly imparting of orthodox academic knowledge.IN TRUE ORWELLIAN fashion, Massey University has announced its commitment to ...
    19 hours ago
  • Climate Change: We need more trees, not less
    Farmers held a hate-march on Parliament today, complete with MAGA hats, gun-nut signs, and gendered insults. While supposedly about a grab-bag of issues - including, weirdly, mental health - it was clear that the protest was about one thing, and one thing only: climate change. And specifically, forestry "destroying" rural ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • The IGIS annual report: Dead letters and secret law
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security released their annual report today, and I've been busy reading through it. In amongst the usual review of what they've been doing all year, there's a few interesting bits. For example, a discussion on "agency retention and disposal of information", which points out that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago
  • A referendum on bigotry
    The End of Life Choice Bill passed its third reading last night, 69 - 51. Thanks to a compromise with NZ First - which looks to have been necessary on the final numbers - the commencement of the bill will be subject to a referendum. Given the ugliness of the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Political parties and GMOs: we all need to move on
    Recently more than 150 post-graduate students and young scientists presented an open letter to the Green Party via The Spinoff, encouraging them to reconsider their position on genetic modification. Their target is tackling climate change issues.[1] Can any party continue to be dismissive about genetic modification (GM) contributing to ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    2 days ago
  • Class, Identity Politics and Transgender Ideology
    by Deirdre O’Neill Under Thatcher and then Blair and continuing up until our contemporary moment, the working class has seen its culture slowly and progressively destroyed. The change from an industrial society to a service society produced a marked shift in focus from the working class as the backbone of ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • Irony
    Since 2013, the Australian government has detained refugees without trial in Pacific gulags, where they are abused, tortured, and driven to suicide. The policy is not just an abuse of human rights and possible crime against humanity; it has also had a corrosive effect on the states Australia uses as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • An age of protest.
    It seems fair to say that we currently live in a problematic political moment in world history. Democracies are in decline and dictatorships are on the rise. Primordial, sectarian and post-modern divisions have re-emerged, are on the rise or have been accentuated by political evolutions of the moment such as ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago
  • Another captured agency
    Last month, Greenpeace head Russel Norman surrendered his speaking slot at an EPA conference to student climate activist Sorcha Carr, who told the EPA exactly what she thought of them. It was a bold move, which confronted both regulators and polluters (or, as the EPA calls them, "stakeholders") with the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • NZ First’s dodgy loans
    The core principle supposedly underlying New Zealand's electoral finance regime is transparency: parties can accept large donations from rich people wanting to buy policy, but only if they tell the public they've been bought. Most parties abide by this, so we know that TOP was wholly-owned by Gareth Morgan, and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
    Today is a Member's Day, probably the second-to-last one of the year, and its a big one, with the Third Reading of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. last Member's Day it was reported back from committee, after MPs voted narrowly to make it subject to a (rules TBA) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz The growth of the human population over the last 70 ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    3 days ago
  • The disappearing Women …
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In her excellent oral submission to the Abortion reform select committee on 31st October on behalf of Otago University’s Department of Public Health, historian and public health researcher Hera Cook stated: “We would ask that the committee not use the term ‘pregnant persons’ and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • “A Passage to India”: enduring art in changing times
    by Don Franks In 1957, E M Forster wrote, of his greatest work: “The India described in ‘A Passage to India’ no longer exists either politically or socially. Change had begun even at the time the book was published ( 1924) and during the following quarter of a century it ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Contemptuous
    The Referendums Framework Bill was due back from select committee today. But there's no report on it. Instead, the bill has been bounced back to the House under Standing order 29593) because the Committee didn't bother to produce one. They probably tried. But given the membership of the committee (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
    Two years into New Zealand’s Labour-led government, the long-delayed Zero Carbon Bill became law on 7 November. Passed essentially unanimously, the lengthy public debates and political manoeuvring faded away until the final passage was even anticlimactic: Flipping through the @nzstuff @DomPost I was starting to wonder if I’d dreamt ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
    Now the Zero Carbon Bill is law, what's next? Obviously, the ETS changes currently before select committee are going to be the next battleground. But we're also going to get a good idea of where we're going, and if the progress the Zero Carbon Act promises is good enough, during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
    Grant Pearce The effects of the current Australian bushfires in New South Wales and Queensland (and also again in California) are devastating and far-reaching. To date, the fires have resulted in several lives being lost and many homes and properties destroyed. Here in New Zealand, the impacts have been only ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    4 days ago
  • Participation rates
    A passing comment in a post the other day about the labour force participation rates of older people prompted me to pull down the fuller data and see what we could see about various participation rates over the decades since the HLFS began in 1986.   As it happens, the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    4 days ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
    Distract And Divert: The rise of what we have come to call “Identity Politics” represents the ideological manifestation of the ruling class’s objective need to destroy class politics, and of the middle-class’s subjective need to justify their participation in the process.THE RELIEF of the ruling class can only be imagined. ...
    4 days ago
  • Asking for it …
    "I saw a newspaper picture,From the political campaignA woman was kissing a child,Who was obviously in pain.She spills with compassion,As that young child'sFace in her hands she gripsCan you imagine all that greed and avariceComing down on that child's lips?" ...
    4 days ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    4 days ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
    The Zero Carbon Act is inadequate, with a weak methane target designed to give farmers a free ride. But it turns out it could have been worse: Climate Change Minister James Shaw was so desperate to get National on board, he wanted to gut that target, and leave it in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    5 days ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    5 days ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
    There will be a transit of Mercury – the planet Mercury will pass across the face of the Sun – taking place at sunrise in New Zealand on Tuesday, 12th November. It was by observing such an event 250 years ago that James Cook and his scientist colleagues were able ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    5 days ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
    Since becoming the world’s first openly transexual mayor and member of parliament, Georgina Beyer has been recognised as a trailblazer for trans rights. Daphna Whitmore talks with her about where she sees the current trans movement We start out talking about legislation the government put on hold that would have ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    5 days ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    6 days ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
    National Messiah? Chris Luxon identifies himself as an evangelical Christian. If he is genuine in this self-characterisation, then he will take every opportunity his public office provides to proselytise on behalf of his faith. He will also feel obliged to bear witness against beliefs and practices he believes to be ...
    6 days ago
  • War of the worms
    I'm going to make a Reckless Prediction™ that the Tories have 'topped out' in the 'poll of polls' / Britain Elects multipoll tracker at about 38%, and in the next week we will start to see Labour creep up on them.In fact, we might just be seeing the start of ...
    6 days ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
    by The Council of Disobedient Women Lizzie Marvelly: “I may have missed this… has @afterellen gone all terf-y? Or am I reading something incorrectly? “ https://twitter.com/LizzieMarvelly/status/1191840059105742849 After Ellen is a lesbian website that is unashamedly pro-lesbian, as you’d expect. So why is Ms Marvelly so bothered about lesbians having their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
    Did you know there once was a time when it was illegal to be a gypsy (aka Romani) in Britain?That was between 1530, when the Egyptians Act was passed, and 1856, when it was repealed.Amongst other things, the act forbade the entry of 'Egyptians' into England, ordered those already there ...
    7 days ago
  • 1000 of these now
    Some days I sit and think, “what will I write…?” What do you say when you get to 1000 posts? Maybe you just start where you are, diverge to where this all began, then offer a collection of reader’s favourite posts, and a few of your own? (And throw in ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    7 days ago
  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
    Counter-Puncher: The “activists” and “radicals” (his own words) from the Indian community who took such strong exception to Shane Jones’ remarks about Immigration NZ’s treatment of arranged marriages, may end up bitterly regretting their intervention. Jones is not the sort of person who turns the other cheek to his critics.SHANE ...
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
    Yesterday, when National voted for the Zero Carbon Bill, I predicted they'd gut it the moment they regained power, just as they had done to the ETS. And indeed, they have explicitly promised to do exactly that within their first hundred days in office. What would their amendments do? Abandon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Let this never be forgot
    In the spirit of Remember, remember the fifth of November, let's keep this in mind FOREVER.
    Oh dear. Extraordinary interview on PM with Andrew Bridgen and @EvanHD just now. Bridgen was defending Jacob Rees Mogg’s Grenfell comments. Evan asked him if JRM had meant to say he would have left ...
    1 week ago
  • Too Late To Change Capitalism’s Flightpath?
    Collision Course? In conditions of ideological white-out, the international bankers’ “Woop-Woop! Pull Up!” warning may have come too late to save global capitalism.WHAT DOES IT MEAN when international bankers are more willing to embrace radical solutions than our politicians and their electors? At both the International Monetary Fund and the ...
    1 week ago
  • Whooping cough vaccine works well despite its imperfections
    Pertussis (whooping cough) is a conundrum. It is a disease that was described hundreds of years ago and the bacteria that causes it (Bordetella pertussis) isolated in 1906. We have had vaccines for about 80 years but this disease is defiant in the face of human immunity. I wanted to ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Passed
    The Zero Carbon Bill has just passed its third reading, uanimously. In the end, National supported it - but we all know they'll turn around and gut it the moment they regain power. Meanwhile, I guess ACT's David Seymour didn't even bother to show up. I am on record as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Retailing of vaping products – New NZ Research
    Dr Lindsay Robertson, Dr Jerram Bateman, Professor Janet Hoek Members of the public health community hold divergent views on how access to vaping products or electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) products should be arranged. Some believe ENDS should be as widely available as smoked tobacco and argue for liberal ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    1 week ago
  • Justice for Bomber
    When the Police were trying to cover up for the National Party over Dirty Politics, they went all-in with their abuses of power. They illegally search Nicky Hager's house, violating his journalistic privilege and invading his privacy. They unlawfully acquired Hager's bank records. They did the same to left-wing blogger ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Britain’s climate tyranny was unlawful
    Last month, in response to a wave of protests by Extinction Rebellion, the British government purported to ban their protests from the whole of London. It was a significant interference with the freedoms of expression and assembly, and another sign of the country's decline into tyranny. But now, a court ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • More crime from the spies
    Last year, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security reported on significant problems with the intelligence warrant system. While they were unwilling to declare any warrant "irregular" (meaning unlawful) due to the recent law change, they were also not willing to give the system a clean bill of health. Now, they've ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Vaccination, compulsion, and paternalism for the lower orders
    The National Party has come out in support of encouraging greater vaccination uptake. But it sure isn’t the way I’d do it. National’s suggested docking the benefits of those on benefit whose kids aren’t keeping up with their vaccinations. Some in National have suggested extending that to payments under Working ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    1 week ago
  • Global Protests Rage On: But Slogans Are Not Plans.
    Feeding The Flames: It is simply not enough to demand an end to “corruption”, or “inequality”, or the overbearing influence of the authorities in Beijing. These are just “lowest common denominator” demands: the sort of slogans that pull people onto the streets. They are not a plan.WHERE’S THE PLAN? Across ...
    1 week ago
  • 11,000 employed under Labour
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Boycott this democratic fraud
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has called for submissions on Andrew Little's tyrannical Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill. Normally I encourage participation in the democratic process. I am not doing so in this case. Instead, I encourage all of you to boycott this submissions process, and to post ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why Mars is cold despite an atmosphere of mostly carbon dioxide
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz If tiny concentrations of carbon dioxide can hold enough heat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Ban private jets
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Untold Suffering
    That's what we face if we don't stop climate change, according to a warning from 11,000 scientists:The world’s people face “untold suffering due to the climate crisis” unless there are major transformations to global society, according to a stark warning from more than 11,000 scientists. “We declare clearly and unequivocally ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The left and violent misogyny
    by Phil Duncan Here’s just a few of the kind of threats issued day in and day out against gender-critical women – feminists, marxists, etc – overwhelmingly by MEN (albeit men identifying as women). “Kill all Terfs”. “Shoot a Terf today”. “All terfs deserve to be shot in the head”. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Imperialism and the iPhone
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    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • The freshwater mussel housing crisis: eviction by invasive weeds?
    Tom Moore Traditionally a food source and cutting tool, freshwater mussels/kākahi are now widely valued as water filters that help clean our waterbodies and maintain ecosystem health throughout Aotearoa. The improvement they provide in water quality can make it easier for other animals to live in streams and rivers, as ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    1 week ago
  • Back it up Luxon: endorsing the destructive past is not actually the way forward
    And to think he gave all the potential goodwill away with that moronic, cult-like statement (repeated ad nauseam by many National hardliners) that Key is quite simply “the greatest PM we ever had”… Installation complete: this was nothing ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    1 week ago
  • Good riddance
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: D-Day
    The Zero Carbon Bill is back in the House today for its second reading. While this isn't the final stage, its still effectively D-Day for the bill. Because today, at around 5pm, is when we're going to find out if it has a majority, whether National will support it or ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Winston is right
    Winston Peters is in court today, suing a bunch of former Minister and civil servants over their pre-election leak of his superannuation repayment. He's characterised the leak as malicious, and said that it is repugnant that his information was passed on to Ministers to use for political advantage. And he's ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Media impartiality
    Sky's economics editor, Ed Conway has posted a Twitter thread responding to a claim that - as far as I can see - Labour never made:
    Are NHS operation cancellations at an all-time high? That's the impression you might have been left with if you read this story from the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Finish what’s on your plate
    Murray Cox Do I have to finish my favourite genome? That’s an often-asked question. Geneticists generally strive to produce high-quality genomes that sequence every last gene, making full use of the state-of-the-art technologies coming on stream. Sequencing DNA means determining the order of the four chemical building blocks – called ...
    SciBlogsBy Genomics Aotearoa
    2 weeks ago
  • Gainful Employment: A Cautionary Tale.
    Transformative Politics: The idea is to turn each recipient into an unwitting accomplice in their own transformation. From interested observer to hyped-up activist, sharing our messages promiscuously with ‘friends’. You’ll be part of an ever-expanding circulatory system, Jennifer, for the ideas that will win us the election.”JENNIFER SKITTERED her chair ...
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand should not fund bigotry
    Two years ago, the Cook Islands government announced that it was planning to join the civilised world and decriminalise consensual homosexual sex between men. Now, they've reversed their position, and decided to criminalise lesbians into the bargain:Two years ago, in a step welcomed by many people including the gay and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • More tyranny in Australia
    The boycott is a fundamental tool of protest. By choosing who we buy from, we can send a message, and hopefully change corporate behaviour. Historically, boycotts have been effective, for example over apartheid in South Africa and Israel, in forcing divestment from Myanmar, and in ending bus segregation in the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Submission for rationality and science against the assaults of pre-modernism and post-modernism
    Jan Rivers spoke at the Abortion Legislation Select Committee in favour of the bill, but in opposition to calls from other submitters to exchange the word ‘woman’ for ‘person’ throughout the bill. Jan is a supporter of the feminist group Speak Up For Women and has recently written an excellent ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • My loyal readership of … Cam girls and Pornbots?
    I checked my traffic stats:I was intrigued by 'monica29' - who was this very dedicated individual?  I clicked on the link, to be greeted with ...Ho, hum.Spreadin' the word, spreadin' the word.  Doesn't matter who hears it, as long as it gets out there. ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Worth repeating forever
    There have been three polls since the election was announced, and I will shamelessly steal YouGov / UK Polling Report's Anthony Wells' summary of them:Survation – CON 34%, LAB 26%, LDEM 19%, BREX 12%, GRN 1% Ipsos MORI – CON 41%, LAB 24%, LDEM 20%, BREX 7%, GRN 3% YouGov ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Lutte Ouvriere on the explosion in Chile
    The following article is translated from Lutte Ouvrière, the weekly newspaper of the organisation usually known by the same name in France. When, for the second time this year, Chilean President Piñera announced an increase in the price of Metro tickets from 800 to 830 pesos, students in the high ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    2 days ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    3 days ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    1 week ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    1 week ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    1 week ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
    We began the week by commemorating the New Zealand Wars and celebrating a major increase in the number of teachers. Then, we were busy supporting offenders into work and getting our rail back on track after years of underinvestment. And that's just the start! ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
    In October I was sworn in as the Mayor of Lower Hutt. It’s the privilege of my life to serve Hutt people as their Mayor. There is something really special to be able to serve the community where I was raised, and where I live.   ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Closer cooperation with Korean horse racing industry
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Racing Racing Minister Winston Peters met with Korea Racing Authority Chairperson Nak Soon Kim in Seoul today to discuss closer cooperation between the New Zealand and Korean horse racing industries. As part of the visit to the Seoul Racecourse, Mr Peters witnessed ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Otago to lead digital creativity
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $10 million to establish Otago as the centre of New Zealand’s creative digital industry over the next ten years, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “The initiative will bring us closer to the vision of ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Young Otago students encouraged to take on forestry careers
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF)’s skills and employment programme will help young Otago people into long-term forestry careers, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Te Ara Mahi will invest $63,000 in the 2020 school year to support eight 17 and 18 ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF backing Dunedin’s waterfront ambitions
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will support local plans to revitalise and stimulate economic development opportunities in Otago, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. The four Regional Economic Development Ministers have approved an in-principle investment of $19.9 million towards the region’s ...
    2 weeks ago
  • M. Bovis eradication progress welcomed
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries New Zealand First is pleased to have received the Technical Advisory Group (TAG) report on the Coalition Government’s Mycoplasma bovis eradication efforts, which shows significant progress in the fight against the disease. New Zealand First Spokesperson for Primary Industries, Mark Patterson, says the report’s findings ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF boosts Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sector
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development Hon David Parker, Minister for Trade and Export Growth The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing to support economic growth opportunities for Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sectors, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones and Trade and Export Minister David Parker announced today. Almost $20 million ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Minister Peters discusses Pacific challenges and denuclearisation in Seoul
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters and his South Korean counterpart, Kang Kyung-wha, discussed in Seoul today opportunities to work more closely in the Pacific and the situation on the Korean Peninsula. Mr Peters and Minister Kang confirmed New Zealand and the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • PGF supports high speed broadband for marae at Parihaka Pa
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development  Hon Nanaia Mahuta, Minister for Māori Development The three marae in the historic Parihaka Pa complex in Taranaki have been upgraded to high speed broadband with the support of the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “Connecting the ...
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