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Like shit warmed-up

Written By: - Date published: 7:20 am, November 23rd, 2011 - 81 comments
Categories: brand key, election 2011, john key, leadership, national - Tags: , , ,

John Key is really showing the strain of campaigning, he’s not bearing up under the stress of it at all well. Lucky for him it’s such a short one because if this was a full-length campaign, or lasted just another week, I think he’d be a total wreck. Meanwhile Goff on the other hand continues to look as fresh and energetic as ever.

Clearly the National Show Pony was not built for endurance.



81 comments on “Like shit warmed-up”

  1. Colonial Viper 1

    Like shit warmed up? I wondered what that aroma he was emitting was.

    Key has got money, he has his royal wedding photos, basically he can barely be stuffed with this campaign already. He’s already been visibly bored to tears in Government for the last one year.

  2. bob 2

    National soar to 54% in the polls, labour nowhere to be seen, and this is the best you can come up with.

    Get used to another 3 more years. Asset sales, National standards, tough on bene’s stealing from the system (just the bad ones I’m talking about here), – Its going to be fantastic.

    Nats to govern alone – and labour reduced to a nothing.

    • Lanthanide 2.1

      Yeha, lets look to more fiddling while Rome burns.

      Funnily enough that same poll also asked people if they’d prefer a coalition or single-party government.

      Coalition got 54.1% of the vote. So I think National being on 54% is a bit weird, don’t you?

      • bob 2.1.1

        Personally I would like them to be in a coalition also. Although at the moment partners are looking a little thin on the ground.

        As such people dont want to waste a vote – and are sending it Nationals way (thats how Im reading it anyway) Meaning that to an extent they helping a single party rule, against what they would prefer.

        Still – its better than the rag-tag of losers labour would need to form one.

        • Colonial Viper

          Glad you’re supporting the selling off of NZ, mate. Of course the ‘born to rule’ set think it is best if they end up ruling alone. They aren’t built to share with others, after all.

          Don’t be surprised when all your children and grandchildren end up living overseas because all our local investment income is being pumped out of this country back to Australian shareholders.

          • the sprout

            i suspect bob is not a new zealander in the first place, hence his lack of concern for our foreign owned future

            • bob

              Nope – all Kiwi me. Born in the mighty Waikato.

              Lived overseas – returned to NZ. Had job offers overseas (UK, Aust and US) – all in the last 12 months and still live here.

              Kids love it, all doing well and even tho two are in their 20’s both earn 50k + already so doing OK for young ‘uns.

              Youngest is only 14 but running his own little business and looks like he is going to do well in live – even here in Godzone.

              I have concern for NZ – thats why I support 100% part privatization. Its the dumb ones that cannot see the benefits that would cause NZ to go backwards.

              [sprout: and yet you are commenting from an ISP in the US. how odd]

              • The Voice of Reason

                “Its the dumb ones that cannot see the benefits that would cause NZ to go backwards.”

                You said it Bob!

                The rich benefit, NZ goes backwards.

                • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

                  In 2002, Phil Goff was in a cabinet that decided to sell off 20% of Air New Zealand to foreigners.

                  Luckily, now he sees that selling anything at all we happen to presently own never makes any sense ever. No matter what.

              • katie may

                This right here is the difference between a National Supporter and a Labour supporter – plenty of Labour supporters enjoy successful, comfortable lives and have fabulously clever children with O.Es and good jobs (hi dad!), they just aren’t deluded enough to think that everyone else in this country has had the same opportunities. I’m under no illusion that my successes in life – albeit, modest ones – aren’t the result of being a white female who grew up in the cozy, middle-class enclave of Tauranga. I certainly haven’t worked harder than those putting in night shifts at factories or working 70 hour weeks in rest homes, and in no way do I think that my job and existence is of greater value than theirs.
                Plenty of Labour supporters like nice things too; they just don’t feel the need to keep all the nice things for themselves (“My precious, my preciouuuus”)

              • Deadly_NZ

                Yes Sprout. But if I want to I too can have a US IP address it’s called a Proxy Server, very handy for the Skynet law. And if you could look at all my log ins I would have been “in” the US some of the time when I forgot to turn it off before logging in. Sorry but it’s not that unusual anymore.

                But apart from that BOB you are full of it if you think that Shonky is gonna reign supreme.

              • ghostwhowalksnz

                Hawaii most likely , just like Key: one of the those ‘hard workers’ that get 4- 6 weeks leave a year

    • Dr Terry 2.2

      This is pure gloating bob, but it sounds so bad that I think you must be speaking tongue in cheek. If you are serious about the next glorious three years, you must be one of life’s smug fortunates. As the cliche goes, “what goes around comes around”. Your time is coming, do not complain when it does.

      • Colonial Viper 2.2.1

        I see that stores are already pre-ordering supplies of pitchforks, torches and guillotines. Might be next season’s fashion.

      • bob 2.2.2

        No gloating – genuinely happy about it.

        Yep – fortunate – but did it the hard way via effort, and working hard. Smug – no, thats generally an assumption made by people that didnt make it, that all who did must be.

        Envy it is called. But really – Im a hell of a nice bloke.

        • Lanthanide

          Actually bob a lot of commenters on this blog have “[made] it” and are genuinely interested in helping out the rest of NZ. We’re not envious of you, we’re contemptuous.

          • seeker

            So well said Lanthanide. Here’s another dose of contempt for poor old Bob but with a little dash of advice that “all that glisters is not gold” and a hope that he will he wise up before it’s too late. .

        • felix

          Hell of a nice bloke?

          You’re a hell of a transparent astroturfer is what you are.

          Go back to studying your cue sheet of Kiwi idioms, you’re fooling no-one.

        • Roy

          If you’re a hell of a nice bloke, you sure hide it well! In your comments here, you come across as a smug, heartless a**hole.

        • muzza

          Bob can you please tell us how selling assets will in fact help pay off the public debt over the long term.
          While you are there can you explain how NZ can mathematically pay off its national debt including principle and interest, given that the borrowing into NZ begins its life, and remains, until it is paid back as CREDIT.

      • Majella 2.2.3

        ..or Bob may be simply ‘imagining’ his perfect family of two older sons already on $50K (selling ‘E’ in Remmers, perhaps?) and a 14 y/o already exploiting who-knows-what penchant of the teeny-boppers. Again, I bet his market is in the well-heeled, entitled cohort. I wish Katie May could have a word with this guy…

    • johnm 2.3

      Hi bob
      “tough on bene’s” Last night saw a tv programme on child poverty in NZ. There are 200,000 children here living in an impoverished state. We have Third World diseases affecting them as a result of overcrowding and damp cold mould ridden houses. These families can’t afford heating electricity is too expensive.children go to school without breakfast and don’t eat properly during the day. They have skin infections and respiratory diseases. It’s costing the tax payers a fortune to treat these kids whereas prevention comes at a fraction of the cost. Labour wants to belatedly do something to improve their lot by extending working for families to them. has all this misery resulted from being “tough on benes”? We treat them as pariahs rather than fellow nzers. Access to doctors is expensive.

      The free market neoliberal garbage ideology you and your nat mates follow has created a divided ugly new zealand of hostility to the less fortunate. If we didn’t have the safety valve of Australia we would really be in the sh*t as to unemployment wouldn’t we?

      Contrast Sweden more like the socialist days of NZ where children have free access to health care at all times, a medical service is at each school. Every child has a free cooked lunch in a cafeteria at school and the houses are not cold and damp and mould ridden. That would be being too kind to benes wouldn’t it?!

      All parties in Sweden recognise that children are our future and must be looked after 100%

      Once Shonkey has sold off our power companies you can be sure the new shareholders will want more dividends putting up power prices. People like you Bob are turning this country into a future hell hole of poverty and social division, I wonder i waste my breath with you!

      • bob 2.3.1

        You will see I did say “the bad ones” – I firmly believe that benefits are there to help those who need it.

        But it is NOT there for the bludgers who use it as a lifestyle.

        Help those in need, and kick the others up the arse.

        Not all benes are equal. Not by a long shot – something that seems to be forgotten by a lot on the left.

        As for the doco last night – didnt watch it.

        • Lanthanide

          “As for the doco last night – didnt watch it.”

          You should have. I was surprised by how bad the situation really is.

          My only thought was that Labour really didn’t do enough when they were in government. They should have taken a couple of years worth of surplus and fixed up the state housing stock. We probably would have made the difference up in cost savings on health and better educational outcomes already.

          • Jilly Bee

            I too watched that doco with utter despair. I also worked at the Auckland City Mission at the beginning of the great new century and often despaired at what had happened in the 1990s under Jenny Shipley/Ruth Richardson’s regime. I recall the incoming Labour lead Government had a policy of ‘Closing the Gaps’, but of course the great unwashed Bobs of this world squealed unrelentingly at such socialistic policy to the extent it had to be quietly dropped. It needs to be resurrected NOW.

        • uke

          “kick the others up the arse.”

          I guess this applies to corporate welfare bludgers and dairy farmers bludging cheap water and polluting rights, too, right?

        • Draco T Bastard

          The only bludgers are the capitalists. The people who think they should be rewarded for being rich.

        • Deadly_NZ

          Well then why dont you go and use TV3’s On demand, and fuck off and watch it then. You are below contempt.

        • mik e

          bob each way cause you are in the US

  3. freedom 3

    Key on RNZ right now

    • Yep.

      Superficially he is a really good performer. He could describe going to hell in such a way that you would look forward to the trip.

      He keeps referring to a reduction in the giving of food parcels in Auckland. It appears there has been a temporary drop over winter. The article he is referring to is at http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10767779

      He ignores the rest of the contry. The article states

      Numbers were 14 per cent higher than a year ago in the central division and 45 per cent higher in the South Island, even after excluding direct earthquake relief.

      The thought of another three years of having to deconstruct everything our PM says because they are full of spin is very daunting.

  4. Tel 4

    Logic dictates only “shit warmed up” could get so many shit for brains to vote for the shit sandwich he’s selling.

    • bob 4.2

      comment deleted
      [sprout: you have now contributed more than one third of all the comments on this post and are descending into obvious trolling. desist for a while if you want to keep commenting on this post]

      • Shona 4.2.1

        over 15 % are undecided in that poll. Those who get it left Nz eons ago. Personally I find it ironic that my Grandchildren will be Aussies after relenquishing so much material wealth to leave Oz and return to raise my family in Nz. Land of the 3rd rate and the powerfully elitist. A backward country. On an average day I deal with the some of the most idiotic professionals( all foreign trained) ever inflicted on a society. While the educated professionals of my own whanau whose skills are so desperately needed here all work in foreign climes all are high achievers all are better paid than their kiwi counterparts some are now mind bogglingly wealthly.It costs a fortune to visit them and so another kiwi family is torn apart for the sake of the ideology of the insane and truly stupid.

        • Roy

          Me too Shona…I am appalled by most of the foreign ‘experts’ I have met, that this country has imported at great expense. One of the problems we have in NZ is a contempt for the home-grown article and an assumption that imported professionals and academics must be better than anything we can produce. That assumption is false!

          • Deadly_NZ

            And why do we have ‘foreign’ experts??? Because this bunch of incompetents in power have driven all the good Kiwi experts away with shit wages and conditions.

      • bob 4.2.2

        If I was trolling – I would be on all threads – I am commenting mainly on here replying to comments made to me.

        And I only stated in here because of the “shit warmed up:” title.

        • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell

          You put up a post entitled “Like shit warmed up” making the point that the PM seems a bit tired and you are disappointed at the quality of the comments it attracts?

        • The Voice of Reason

          ‘And I only stated in here because of the “shit warmed up:” title.’

          Bob is attracted to shit. Why am I not surprised?

  5. insider 5

    Goff seems to be looking a lot greyer these days…Is the pressure telling?

    • Goff’s been grey for a long time but he isn’t looking at all tired or harried like Key.

    • Lanthanide 5.2

      Go have a look at Obama. The position has taken a lot out of him, he’s going grey around the temples (his very short hair helps to disguise it).

      Being a politician is stressful. I’d say Goff has had his fair share of stress in terms of a partisan media that previously has only been interested in running Goff’s latest bungle while giving Key a free pass.

      • Dan hansen 5.2.1

        I wouldn’t worry too much about Goff he will no doubt be resigning in 3 or 4 days time and will have plenty of opportunity for relaxation 

        Actually will Goff leave parliament and force a bi-election in 2012, what other senior labour MP’s will leave and do the same – how many labour related bi elections will there be in 2012?

        All good questions which will no doubt be the focus of conversation next week, along with the evitable discussion about how the new labour leader is the second coming of jesus and that Goff was the sole reason for labours demise. Fun times

    • The Voice of Reason 5.3

      Phil doesn’t have the luxury of taking his hair off and having it washed, spun and lubed by underlings on a daily basis.

  6. randal 6

    this stuff’ll probably kill ya lets do another line.
    you sure to see someone you know on heart attack and vine.

  7. Galeandra 8

    Take the long view. Genuine socialism will be reborn in NZ as elsewhere out of sheer necessity. One hopes it won’t require pitchforks and machetes, CV.

    You will always get the self-satisfied gloaters, their egotism is what helps make them materially sudccessful, so they don’t value service work like that done by environmental inspectors or nurses or pre-school teachers etc and they don’t consider them ‘successful’. They’d rather make megabucks owning a garage or a pie shop, no matter how socially deleterious the service they offer is over the longer term.
    The melt-down in Europe is ultra contagious….Hungary, Austria, Germany etc are filling the news from Europe now. Bond markets are beginning to spike everywhere. UK now admits it can’t get its deficit down. The fantasy of perpetual capitalist wealth is collapsing, and Bob is going to have to put up with a government that can’t get the books right and can’t borrow and is simply prodding the smouldering remains of the neo-liberal bonfire. A lot of his mates will be lined up in queues with the needy before the next electoral cycle is over.
    As for Bob’s reverse paraochialism : ‘looks like he is going to do well in live – even here in Godzone.’; well, the scales will fall from his eyes as the Asian economies implode in reaction to the trade and currency problems of the Euro-American centre. ‘Doing well’ will involve having enough for the basics of dignified survival, by the way, not the consumption wankfest that so many ‘patriotic’ RWNJ’s like to enjoy, especially on their long OE’s and holidays abroad.

    • Afewknowthetruth 8.1


      ‘ Bob is going to have to put up with a government that can’t get the books right and can’t borrow and is simply prodding the smouldering remains of the neo-liberal bonfire.’

      A good description of the short term outlook.

      There will be desperate attempts to keep the bonfire going via fracking, deepwater drilling, plus mining and selling anything that can be mined and sold, of course.

  8. Rose 9

    I lived overseas too Bob, came home, got married, we have a nice house & good jobs, but unlike you Im saddened by what I returned to. Lots of hardworking people in my family are struggling to get by, especially my family in Christchurch. So yes I can sit back & feel very chuffed with myself and what I have achieved, but while so many NZ’ers are struggling and suffering its not a country I feel very proud of.

  9. randal 10

    like shit warmed up all right.
    kweewee has been spouting a whole load of pols 101 ever since he gave hooton a gig telling him how 2 and 1 makes 4.
    all this crap about stable government.
    what a load of rubbish.
    if he thinks NZ isa banana republic then it is only due to his policies.
    it aint even National any more.
    Its the John Key party pure and simple.
    out with them.

  10. Afewknowthetruth 11

    The combination of peak oil, unravelling of fiat currencies and environmental collapse is gradually grinding the system down. The system will eventually grind to a halt.

    The US ‘super-committee’ has effectively admitted collapse will come in or before 2014. Meanwhile the Eurozone is in chaos and looks to be on track for disintegration some time in 2012.

    Key obviously knows we are in the early stages of global systemic failure and is finding it increasingly difficult to keep up the pretence that he will provide the average NZer with anything other than destitution if re-elected, especially since he is about to carry out a looting exercise.

    Lying continuously when things provide the facade of going well is obviously a lot easier for him than lying continuously when things are going badly and are about to get a lot worse.

  11. Afewknowthetruth 12


    ‘tough on bene’s stealing from the system (just the bad ones I’m talking about here), – Its going to be fantastic.’

    What are your views on global corporations stealing from the commons and the usary system set up and maintianed by money-lenders?

    And what are your views on a tiny gang of elites enslaving the rest of society and exploiting them?

    Can you please explain what is going to be ‘fantastic’ about living in a post peak oil society that is rapidily collapsing because no preparations were made [by the government]?

    Can you tell me what will be ‘fantastic’ about living in a society undergoing fiat currency collapse?

    Can you explain what will be ‘fantastic’ about living on a planet that is undergoing environmental collapse? (That question particularly applies to your progeny.)

    • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 12.1

      The best thing about the post apocalyptic age is that we won’t have to listen to you anymore. Bring it on, I say.

      • johnm 12.1.1

        Hi Gormless
        Right if everything goes to shit AFKTT will be redundant!!!

      • Afewknowthetruth 12.1.2


        Yes, bring it on. Collapse of industrialism is the only thing that will preserve the habitability of the Earth.

        Another positive about the post-collapse society is that most of the idiots who mocked and scoffed when they should have been preparing will either be eating their words or will have died of starvation.

    • johnm 12.2

      !00% Right AFKTT!!!!

  12. Brian 13

    Never underestimate the greed or hypocricy of the average Tory. Bash a bene so they can feel better about themselves, whilst applauding theft at the top as enterprise ! sad bastards the lot of them.

  13. Gruntie 14

    “John Key a well produced product”
    thats all

    • Deadly_NZ 14.1

      But like any product well produced or not all have one thing in common. Shelf Life and Key’s is running out.

  14. gnomic 15

    The weasel boasts that he only gets 5 hours sleep a night as he gives his all to bring about a brighter future. Little wonder he looks tired. One might ask how he can possibly make good decisions when he is chronically fatigued.

    Speaking of the ‘brighter future’, how does he keep a straight face when he spins that line? Absurd twaddle.

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