Luxon blunders again

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1. observer 1

   26 January 2023 at 4:05 pm

   It's high time the media explored the vast chasm between National's leader and their new MP Tama Potaka (Hamilton by-election winner). Potaka has a very different world view from Luxon, but has not been allowed/encouraged to express it. He has no problem with "co-governance" at all.

   He also has directly contradicted National policy on many other issues e.g. here on the age of Super and on specific Maori health providers.

   https://www.1news.co.nz/2021/08/28/changes-urged-to-make-super-equitable-for-maori-pasifika/
2. Red Blooded One 2

   26 January 2023 at 4:06 pm

   Yeah but his "blunders" may pay off. I see ads on You Tube from Hobsons Choice are hailing his speeches at Ratana as a good start. He is preaching to his own choir.
   • Peter 2.1

     26 January 2023 at 5:41 pm

     The trouble is the choir he's preaching to vote and have friends and family who vote.

     And they turn the song sheet over and look at the next one. It's called, "Kids living in motels."

     Then the next which says, "Ram raids." They aren't the brains trust. They don't have to understand the lyrics or know the original composers. All they have to do is heartily sing away and tick in the right place in October.
     • Red Blooded One 2.1.1

       26 January 2023 at 6:18 pm

       Yes unfortunately.
3. Thinker 3

   26 January 2023 at 4:25 pm

   "… To open his mouth and insert his foot" – you forget the possibility that he is speaking out of some other orifice entirely.

   With comments like his negative reaction to co-governance, I hope Luxon remembers his patronising attitude to the bucket-loads of hate that have been poured on Jacinda, if it falls on him come Waitangi Day.

   Come to think of it, he may display his "Mini-Key" character and go to the rugby…
4. adam 4

   26 January 2023 at 5:04 pm

   The egg keeps mumbling.

   Crack him open, and feed the poor.
   • Kat 4.1

     26 January 2023 at 6:07 pm

     That cracked egg is empty………….but with a sniff the poor could imagine they are holidaying in Rotovegas…….
5. Ghostwhowalksnz 5

   26 January 2023 at 5:05 pm

   National aided by ACT also created co governance arrangements for the Auckland Super City.

   two IWI representatives – not not elected from the Maori voters roll- vote alongside the elected City councillors for all the council committees. Plus its not the same two Maori on each committee, from what I can find out there could be 8-10 different people who have these positions

   https://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/about-auckland-council/how-auckland-council-works/governing-body-wards-committees/committees/Pages/default.aspx

   Its not only reserves and treaty settlement areas that Loose Lips Luxton will have you to believe.

   They will try to divert from this 10 year long co-governance by saying its not 'equal' co governance, but thats a red herring. Appointed iwi representatives not selected by voters from the electoral roll is what makes co -governance
   • roblogic 5.1

     26 January 2023 at 5:19 pm

     World class hypocrisy. ACT's very existence depends on an anti-democratic rort.
6. Patricia Bremner 6

   26 January 2023 at 6:41 pm

   Christopher Luxon shows a lack of respect and a propensity for not actively listening to others, and has rigid ideas.

   Chris Hipkins asks for others opinions and needs. He will try to accommodate them where the Government is able.

   Today I predict this election will be closer than many thought.

   and that makes me happy.
   • Tony Veitch 6.1

     26 January 2023 at 7:24 pm

     
7. Thinker 7

   26 January 2023 at 9:08 pm

   Having trouble pasting the url, but if you check out stuff Simon Bridges endorsed Chris Hipkins when the two met today.

   That might make a few undecideds take notice.
   • observer 7.1

     26 January 2023 at 9:15 pm

     Classic case of opponents on the other side, but enemies on your own.

     Bridges basically delivered a big Eff-You to his former National caucus who once decided they preferred first Muller and then Luxon. Two decisions that haunt them still.
   • Incognito 7.2

     26 January 2023 at 9:50 pm

     This one? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/131067930/chris-hipkins-urged-to-dump-controversial-projects-during-meeting-with-auckland-ceos
     • Thinker 7.2.1

       27 January 2023 at 8:11 am

       That's it. Can paste on laptop but mobile phone doesn't like me.

       Observer made the point, but Hipkins has to swallow some dead rats to keep Auckland business onside.

       Not terribly bad though because Hipkins has at the same time blocked Luxon from saying Hipkins is a poor money manager and throwing caution to the wind.

       So far, the projects being shelved are in the early design stages anyway. IMHO.

       [I fixed the typo in your user name. Please be more careful next time, thanks – Incognito]
       • Incognito 7.2.1.1

         27 January 2023 at 9:50 am

         Mod note
8. Tony Veitch 8

   27 January 2023 at 8:10 am

   There used to be a commentator/moderator on the Standard who compiled a list of all of Key's lies – quite a number in total. Blip I think.

   I wonder if someone could do the same for Luxon's gaffes? They must be adding up by now.
   • Graeme 8.1

     27 January 2023 at 8:49 am

     Would be easier, and save on server capacity to record the things he doesn't fuck up
     • left for dead 8.1.1

       27 January 2023 at 10:09 am

       Graeme
     • Tony Veitch 8.1.2

       27 January 2023 at 11:07 am

       Lol
9. Peter Bradley 9

   27 January 2023 at 9:15 am

   "National Party strategists must be worried." I don't thinks so. Why is there an assumption that what Luxon is doing is somehow a blunder or mistake? National and Luxon and the party strategists know exactly what they are doing.

   Riding the anti-woke sentiment on the backs of Maori in a majority Pakeha electorate will garner a huge number of votes. Racism has been exceptionally successful in recent overseas elections – UK, India, Brazil and Israel etc.

   National have decided to resurrect the ghost of Don Brash – a ghost that we all thought had been buried by John Key. This election is going set back race relations in NZ by several decades.
   • Shanreagh 9.1

     27 January 2023 at 10:41 am

     So National plays with people's minds & ideas in search of power.

     Playing the race card as was done at Ratana is despicable.

     Playing the race card at any time when it is just to toy with thoughts is despicable at any time.

     They are stirring up an electorate that just needs a bit of peace and calm after some tumultuous years. We don't need the trolls,, misogynists and racists these calls bring out.

     It just lines us up for more biased and idiot reporting from Media as they follow his every word, without a hard question to be seen.
10. Mike the Lefty 10

    27 January 2023 at 10:40 am

    When you talk to anyone who vehemently opposes "co-governance" it quickly becomes apparent that most of them really have no idea what it is.

    They "think" they know, but what they think is seldom more than mantras that they have learned from social media and cultural ignoramuses like Don Brash and Hobsons Pledge.

    They are convinced that it means Maori will take over the entire infrastructure of drinking water, wastewater and stormwater and that Pakeha will have to pay for the privilege of turning on the tap and flushing the toilet. The fact that you do this now and are charged rates for it somehow eludes them.

    A similar argument came up with the Foreshore and Seabed argument earlier this century. You would have to pay a fee to local iwi to visit the beach or go to the riverside park. This fear was exacerbated when some iwi did actually set up kiosks on a few beaches asking for koha in return for using it, although as far as I'm aware nobody was actually refused access if they didn't donate.

    But that is what is being played on – the fear that Pakeha will have to pay money to the Maori to do what they have always done (ostensibly) for free and the sort of Pakeha who takes that seriously is also the sort who declares they would die before they paid the bloody Maoris a single cent.

    For the record I don't believe that Maoris actually want to take over the infrastructures but they quite reasonably want a say in how they are managed, to make sure things are done fairly and everyone's cultural and democratic rights are respected as per the Treaty of Waitangi provisions.
    • Peter Bradley 10.1

      27 January 2023 at 11:47 am

      Agree – but why did the government not come out on this and make it clear? Where were they? If you want info on 3 waters you have to hunt through obscure government websites to find it. Where were the media discussions with ministers, where were the strong voices and clear explanations. Where was the well thought out social media campaign?
      They have been 100% absent on communicating this policy and allowed mis-information and fear mongering to define the narrative. NZ's supine media have lapped up the potential carnage with glee and not a single push back. This is going to be a truly horrific election if National and Act are given a free ride on dog whistle racism. The government will need to step up and show genuine leadership by calling out what is going on and challenging it directly and openly.

      Please do not become the UK Labour party and simply bow to white majority anger and resentment by accepting it as part of 'democracy'.
11. Tony Veitch 11

    27 January 2023 at 11:11 am

    Great thread:

    https://twitter.com/NatlClownshow/status/1618401109940539392

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