March against RWR’s racism

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1. Robert Atack 1

   15 May 2011 at 10:01 am

   hope it rains
   • south paw 1.1

     15 May 2011 at 10:14 am

     why, u think they’re made out of sugar?
2. south paw 2

   15 May 2011 at 10:13 am

   I’m all for cultural diversity and support the march.

   But I think there needs to be a debate about whether we want more immigration and from what countries.

   In Auckland here we have a whole lot of white South Africans, they hole out together on the North Shore. One or two I’ve met seem ok, but the rest are basically fascist, which shouldn’t surprise anyone who knows about their history right? So why are they allowed in? You can bet they don’t vote Left.

   How about Chinese immigrants who bring their elderly parents in and wait out the time till they can access the pension. WTF!?

   Why do we have to bring in all these immigrants? Because kiwis are stampeding out of this economic titanic ship.

   What about our youth and Maori unemployment – virtually at The Great Depression era levels. But we have to import workers/skills. WTF?!
   • higherstandard 2.1

     15 May 2011 at 11:43 am

     Are you retarded or just a bigot ?
     • south paw 2.1.1

       15 May 2011 at 1:52 pm

       So not agreeing that immigrants can bring their elderly parents here to eventually pick up our pension makes me a bigot or retarded?

       I understand your anger higherstandard, I stated some ugly truths about your white South African friends. You right whingers always had a cuddly relationship with your white brothers in apartheid South Africa didn’t you? Not like those trouble making ‘n*gger luvin’ lefty commie springbok tour protestors! When apartheid finally collapsed kiwi right whingers shed tears for their white brothers loss to the Black Man, and welcomed them with open arms to NZ.
       • NickC 2.1.1.1

         15 May 2011 at 3:12 pm

         HS: I think you got your answer..
         • higherstandard 2.1.1.1.1

           15 May 2011 at 3:43 pm

           Aye – retarded and bigoted.
           • millsy 2.1.1.1.1.1

             15 May 2011 at 3:48 pm

             Yes, questioning the practise of employing migrants at lower wages instead of training our own workforce, is bigoted isnt it.
             • higherstandard …

               15 May 2011 at 4:54 pm

               Tard trolling today Millsy ?
3. KJT 3

   15 May 2011 at 10:29 am

   I like the cultural diversity that immigrants bring. BUT. Immigration is used in NZ by employers so they do not have to pay decent wages or train New Zealanders.

   At present we are gaining a lot of skilled workers from Russia, India and Pakistan. They are heading for NZ, mostly, to get residency for skilled jobs in Australia. A few are here for our social wage. Education, parklands and public space, lack of poverty and crime.

   If that source of workers had been restricted employers would have to pay the going rate for skilled staff. Like Australia.
   Executives would not have been able to cut staff wages to inflate their own by as large an extent, overseas shareholders would have had a slight reduction in dividends and more money would stay here to support local business.
   • Asher 3.1

     15 May 2011 at 12:08 pm

     The answer to that is not to shut out immigrants. The answer is to fight together for better wages and conditions for all workers, regardless of where we were born.
     • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1

       15 May 2011 at 4:08 pm

       /facepalm

       Supply and demand. Increased supply of workers results in decreased demand that then causes wages to drop. Importing more people lessens the capability of people to work together as they become ever more desperate for work so that they can eat so it becomes easier for the bosses to divide the workforce.

       We have something like a quarter of a million people out of work so why do we need to import more of them? Look after the ones we have first.
       • terryg 3.1.1.1

         16 May 2011 at 12:25 am

         perhaps, DTB, because a sizeable (and doubtless growing) chunk of the unemployed simply lack the skills that are still in demand (what little demand there is, of course). long ago, in an era far, far away, there existed apprenticeships…..

         or even literacy. It is becoming commonplace for literacy and numeracy tests at job interviews, and if yo dont pass then get out now.

         more threads in the same old RW tapestry. bah humbug.
         • KJT 3.1.1.1.1

           16 May 2011 at 4:18 am

           NZ companies, now, have managed to pass almost all training costs onto the taxpayer. When they do any training at all.
           There is almost a determination that they will never pay to train people.
           Hence the bleating to immigration when they run out of skilled staff.
           Only the recession and successive Governments demolition of manufacturing has hidden the lack of skilled people in NZ.
           • terryg 3.1.1.1.1.1

             16 May 2011 at 3:15 pm

             Yep KJT, you’ve nailed it.

             more threads, same fucked up tapestry.
4. chris73 4

   15 May 2011 at 10:41 am

   Growing up in Dunedin during the 70s and 80s you didn’t have much of a choice when it came to ordering food but now the choice of eating is outstanding (silver lining and all that ;))
   • The Voice of Reason 4.1

     15 May 2011 at 12:41 pm

     Too right, Chris. The vegetarian options have expanded out of sight in the last thirty years! It ‘s amazing what the diversity and expansion of other ethnicities and cultures has done for NZ society. Food, music, sport and so much more has made us richer as a country.
      
     If the march needs a theme, this might do:
      
      Lyrics here:

     http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/deadkennedys/nazipunksfuckoff.html
     • the pink postman 4.1.1

       15 May 2011 at 1:44 pm

       Plus the wonderfull variety of music. Chinese and Indian music is amazing. The number of traditional instruments makes their music exciting and different.Then after listening to the great music one sits down to an enjoyable meal .
       Plus the fact that if one is ill, these are the people who care for us and make us well.
     • chris73 4.1.2

       15 May 2011 at 7:16 pm

       What is this vegetarian of which you speak? I know not what it means
       • felix 4.1.2.1

         15 May 2011 at 9:08 pm

         Vegetarian food is food made from vegetarians, such as cows and sheep.
         • Armchair Critic 4.1.2.1.1

           15 May 2011 at 9:22 pm

           What is cat food made of, wise one?
           • felix 4.1.2.1.1.1

             16 May 2011 at 7:25 am

             You mean that stuff that dogs eat?
         • chris73 4.1.2.1.2

           16 May 2011 at 6:55 am

           Nice
         • Jum 4.1.2.1.3

           16 May 2011 at 7:08 pm

           felix 4.1.2.1
           15 May 2011 at 9:08 pm

           “Vegetarian food is food made from vegetarians, such as cows and sheep.”

           LOL

           One question: if Key is grinding New Zealanders down, what are we being ground into?
     • terryg 4.1.3

       17 May 2011 at 12:59 pm

       TVoR, I didn’t spot your comment until now, but driving back homw this morning I was thinking the exact same thing.

       Nazi Punks,
       Nazi Punks,
       Nazi Punks FUCK OFF
5. Rodel 5

   15 May 2011 at 10:46 am

   Unexpectedly spent a few days in hospital some time ago.

   Most of the doctors and the majority of the nurses who looked after me were not NZ born.
   Without exception they were superb, professionally and personally . I’m glad they are here.
   (This also applied to most of the domestic staff as well).

   Many of ‘our own’ taxpayer trained medical staff have gone to become immigrants in foreign countries.
   I could relate similar tales of other professions and trades. They are better ‘Kiwis’ than that forgettable
   RWR simpleton. Can’t remember his name… don’t want to.
   • south paw 5.1

     15 May 2011 at 2:04 pm

     I’ve heard on several occasions from people who have stayed in hospital describe how the immigrant nurses just keep smiling and nodding at you when asked questions because they don’t understand English, or if they do speak to you, the accent and mangled grammar makes it impossible to understand them.

     Too bad Kiwi health care workers head overseas to greener pastures. Successive governments on both the Left and Right have run this country into the ground. NZ is fast on track to being a country of landlords, immigrant workers and beneficiaries.
     • Colonial Viper 5.1.1

       15 May 2011 at 2:18 pm

       The Mexico of the South Pacific.

       And Bill and John think that this is an “advantage”.
     • terryg 5.1.2

       15 May 2011 at 4:17 pm

       Some of the WORST english speakers I have met have ONLY spoken english.

       I think this is related to NZ “culture” and its celebration of ignorance and its converse (the derision of intelligence).

       I cringe when i hear many so-called “sports celebrities” speak. before we start haranguing new immigrants, can we organise for NZers to learn how to speak properly?

       Simon Dallow would be a great example to follow – his diction is wonderful, AND he is (or at least appears to be) fluent in Te Reo – I alas am not, but hopefully others can confirm this, and the calibre of his Te Reo diction

       compare and contrast with that ex-copper on police 10-7. the only thing worse than his mangling of english is what he does to Maori place names.

       As for attempting to communicate with those having poor english, try SLOWING DOWN, A LOT. shouting doesnt help at all, but speaking slowly and with decent pauses between words makes a huge difference. It takes a LONG time before no longer having to translate individual words, and if you dont stop talking while they are translating, they rapidly get lost. I discovered this by learning some Mandarin during trips to China, and it has drastically altered the way I communicate with non-native english speakers.

       and conversely, many new immigrants CAN be understood, if you take the time to LISTEN to what they are saying. grammatical/syntax errors are very common, as LOTS of languages are structured differently to english, but with a little thought can readily be puzzled out.

       FFS if we can understand Shonkey, we ought to be able to understand anyones poor english

       to english-only speakers who harangue my penchant for dialectic verbosity – fuck off and read a dictionary, your poor grasp of the only language you can speak is YOUR problem, not mine.
     • the pink postman 5.1.3

       15 May 2011 at 4:30 pm

       Bullshit and insulting south paw .Just listen carefully as you should even with a fellow Kiwi. If you can’t understand Asians what about Scotts and Irish and you would not understand a word from Yorkshire people/,However does anyone care as long as you are being looked after kindly. Who cares a shit whether its hard to understand what they are saying as long as they are doing a good job. My experience with these lovely doctors ,nurses and care givers from Philippines,India and other Asian countries is that they saved my wife’s life .They treated her like a Queen and I will never forget. They made me welcome because I had to stay in Auckland from Waikato and they sometimes bought me in food .Lovely people we should have more .
     • Rodel 5.1.4

       15 May 2011 at 6:07 pm

       Interesting comments. The experiences you have ‘heard about’ do not concur with the experiences I’ve actually had.
       Never had a problem communicating.
       Incidentally the best surgeon I ever had was Muslim from Egypt- Diction and intellect far superior to our PM.
       I hope he stays in NZ.(The surgeon that is , not JK)
6. Bill 6

   15 May 2011 at 11:00 am

   When I click the link, I just come back to ‘the Standard’
7. Jum 7

   15 May 2011 at 2:02 pm

   Whoever is organising these marches needs to check out what else is happening – like the next day on the 28th, for example, in the same place. Not everyone can afford to go to both events, even though they may support both events. Organise as monthly marches right up to election. Organisers should be networking. If we don’t work together, we’ll get JKeyll’s asset sales and even lower working wages and America’s TPPA – trade controls by their transcorporates over the New Zealand government. Remember Warner Bros. That is just a taste. Your Pharmac autonomy will go next.

   “MARCH/RALLY: Budget 2011
   DON’T CUT OUR FUTURE.
   12 noon, Sat 28th May, QE2 Square, Bottom of Queen St, Opposite Britomart.

   please distribute to your email lists,newsletters facebook, twitter, txt and talk to your friends, groups and neighbours.

   From food/petrol price increases to Govt cuts and asset sales. Civilised society is under threat.

   More info call CSJ 09 8366389 or 0212106720 or email capwaitakere@xtra.co.nz to get posters to print out and distribute.

   “When good people lay idle, evil prospers”.
   Stand up NZ before it’s to late!

   Thanks
   Coalition for Social Justice.
   (members of community groups, churches, unions et al)
8. the pink postman 8

   15 May 2011 at 4:41 pm

   I wonder If Don Brash will be there .This crafty slimy covert racist is still selling his racist ideas to the public. . Im concerned that the racist actions from this creepy but clever man is going to cause a lot of hate and anger. The recent gallop poll shows that the Red Neck ignorant racist follower is still with us .
9. Robert Atack 9

   16 May 2011 at 8:11 am

   My message to the march organizers

   Alas Zanni you need to understand the world is overpopulated, New Zealand is lucky we are not as overpopulated as most, BUT to maintain our comfortable lifestyles, as opposed to the likes of children living on garbage dumps, we must stop increasing our population, and from all sources, including birth, personally I like or dislike all people the same regardless of nationality, if you are lucky enough to be living in New Zealand now then great, but no more we are full.
   Do your own research it is free and only takes a little effort and time
   First watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY&feature=related
   As New Zealand becomes more overpopulated, it will also become more violent (such are humans), and anyone who stands out will be picked on, from gay men to people who don’t look like ‘us’ that is human nature.
   We face a dark and uncertain future, nothing you do will stop what is already in motion.
   Climate change is unstoppable
   Peak oil is here now, the government has said we face fuel shortages from 2012 http://oilcrash.com/articles/wake_up2.htm
   We can not grow our way out of this.
   Kiwi Saver is a scam, that will never payout to most of the people sucked into it.
   Alas we have well and truly shit in your nest, we have turned this planet into a garbage dump
   Humans at best have 50 years before going extinct.

   “The road to the future leads us smack into the wall. We simply ricochet off the alternatives that destiny offers: a demographic explosion that triggers social chaos and spreads death, nuclear delirium and the quasi-annihilation of the species… Our survival is no more than a question of 25, 50 or perhaps 100 years.”

   – Jacques Cousteau (1910-1997)

   “More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.”

   – Woody Allen
10. Craig 10

    16 May 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Am I imagining things or are RWR actually the NZ National Front with different coloured jackboots, but essentially the same people involved?
    • Armchair Critic 10.1

      16 May 2011 at 3:29 pm

      Same arseholes, same shit. It’s only the words on the toilet door that have changed.
    • The Voice of Reason 10.2

      16 May 2011 at 3:36 pm

      Yep, same scared, ignorant twerps as before. Though, I gather KKKyle is regarded by the more loathsome of their breed as being a hopeless media whore who couldn’t find the holes in the front of his white sheet without poking himself in the eye.
11. John D 11

    16 May 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Why do they call themselves “Right WIng”?
    They are racists pure and simple.

    I don’t suppose their intellect extends to understanding right or left wing policies.
    • The Voice of Reason 11.1

      16 May 2011 at 4:38 pm

      That’s an interesting question, John. In their previous incarnations they have deliberately refused to accept that they are right wing and they have used terms like ‘ kiwi patriots’ or ‘defenders of our heritage’ to obscure their real politics. To finally come out and acknowledge that they are of the right is significant, but I’m not sure why it has been done.

      The BNP in England has torn itself apart over the issue of race purity versus political gain. When they were winning council seats in working class areas they watered down the race hate message and tried to get the votes of Little Englanders of any ethnicity. Now that they are being rejected at both local and national level, the more obnoxious factions in the BNP are demanding a return to a white English only policy and several splinter groups have formed on that basis.

      It could be that Chapman has now completely lost the support of the more hardline racists and has formed this grouping as a more mainstream political vehicle.
12. Craig 12

    16 May 2011 at 5:08 pm

    From what I can make out, most of these neofascist types are of limited intelligence, education, meagre employment prospects, recurrent assault convictions and severe alcohol and drug problems, no doubt due to abusive and dysfunctional parenting.
    They appear wholly absorbed in a highly derivative subculture that originates from the racist rock and white supremacist literature (sic) of kindred organisations in the United Kingdom, United States and Australia. As extremist organisations of whatever stripe usually do, their microscopic nuisance groups fission over minute and arcane details of ideology. I suspect RWR might well be a barely rebranded National Front.
13. henry olongo 13

    16 May 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Just listenin to Reggae Fi Peach…Fite dem back!

    We love you Asian kiwis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      16 May 2011 at 10:42 pm

      yeah I definitely love them lol
14. Craig Young 14

    17 May 2011 at 3:01 pm

    As a descendant of an Indian immigrant to NZ shortly after WW1 (and grandad lost his family to the 1918 flu epidemic too), I abhor RWR/NZNF/the Nationalist Workers Party/or whatever it’s rebranded itself as this week. Still, it’s a tiny wee entity. Can anyone tell me why the North Island end of their axis is in Waikanae? I know their ideologue Kerry Bolton lives there, but is there any other reason?
15. RWR North 15

    19 May 2011 at 11:46 am

    “When good people lay idle, evil prospers”.
    Stand up NZ before it’s to late!

    Join the Resistance!!

    PS Craig Some of us have Masters Degrees (International Relations)

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