Mike Hosking feels used and wants to take a shower

Written By: - Date published: 9:30 am, August 30th, 2017 - 48 comments
Categories: bill english, election 2017, Media, national, Politics, same old national, the praiseworthy and the pitiful - Tags: ,

It seems National’s most passionate and vocal cheerleaders are no longer feeling the love. Clearly they see the writing on the wall and understand that a change of Government is looking more and more likely after every error filled day of National campaigning. Bill English is no John Key. He is Bill English. He is wooden, uninspiring, error prone, and his team are no longer capable of engaging in the dark arts of politics the way they used to.  Instead of damage to their enemies all there is now is huge amounts of blowback.

But don’t take my word for this.  Have a look at Whaleoil.  Cameron Slater is saying basically the same thing.

And spare a thought for Mike Hosking, John Key’s BFF, who has this morning opened up in what is for him a poignant and heart felt way. I almost feel sorry for him.

He said this about National’s paid parental leave policy announced yesterday:

National’s parental leave deal yesterday to me smacks of cold, hard bribery. National has been dragged kicking and screaming into this debate. They have not been willing participants.

Every move they have made has been a result of private member’s bills and/or opposition pressure and promises. This is not a natural policy for them, like tax cuts or roading infrastructure or paying debt or creating jobs. And yet there they are handing it out like candy.

All of a sudden with the polls tightening, and their prospects on a knife edge – nothing is out of bounds.

Not that paid parental leave isn’t a good idea or welcome. But it’s been welcome for years, it’s been debated for years and they’ve resisted it for years. So why now? Because they want your vote. They don’t believe in it, they don’t love it, they don’t defend it.

Policy should at least in part be driven by genuine belief and desire, not a corrupt retail exchange. I know I sound like someone who’s just emerged from a cave – where the hell have I been? This is politics and these are politicians.

But it’s just this time it seems or feels like any decorum, any philosophical standing and belief is out the window and replaced by Voter Idol and prizes for anyone with a hand out.

He is right. The paid parental leave policy is cynical cold politics. National and English veoted Sue Moroney’s paid parental leave bill on the basis that the country could not afford it but 12 months later are offering something similar.

Under John Key National had a sense of style and purpose. This has now evaporated. All we have is a tired, out of control administration clinging to power and willing to do anything, including stealing the ideas of its opponents, to hold onto the ministerial limousines.

And their cheerleaders realise this is the case and they are hating it.

48 comments on “Mike Hosking feels used and wants to take a shower”

  1. Pete 1

    Reposted:
    Dear Mike Hosking,

    I see on the Herald today you feel ‘used’. The recent election stuff has got to you. Oh dear, I’m saddened. And shocked of course.

    But Mike, if you felt a thousand times worse, you wouldn’t be feeling half as bad many of us do, not just for this a couple of weeks before they election, but perpetually.

    I know your delicate sensibilities are special and different than ours, but we have feelings too.

    You continually use us to make yourself feel great. You abuse the position you are in by insulting our intelligence, sneering at common sense, and flaunting your lack of humanity and intellect by throwing it in our faces and ears. You use us to exercise and build your superiority complex.

    I’m not sure I can suggest medication or therapy for your ailment Mike. Maybe if you’d spent more time in the sun in years gone by rather than up John Key’s arse, you’d be more at one with the real world. (You know that world you are wont to mention.)

    So at this stage all I can suggest is, get fucked.

  2. Shona 2

    Well said @Pete. I could not agree more!

  3. Ed 3

    Does this mean he’ll stand down as moderator?

    • Pete 3.1

      Don’t be silly. With the petition in the news this is his way of pretending he’s not partisan. He is using his position and media space to make his case.

      He says he needs a shower because of grubbiness and soils us by using us again.

      • DSpare 3.1.1

        Yes Pete – this does seem an attempt at reconstructing the facade of neutrality. This particularly struck my eye:

        This is not a natural policy for them, like tax cuts or roading infrastructure or paying debt or creating jobs.

        Okay – I’ll give him; “tax cuts or roading”, as “natural policy” for National. But; “paying debt or creating jobs”? He does; “sound like someone who’s just emerged from a cave”.

    • ianmac 3.2

      Do you think he might slip the questions to Bill before the debates so that Bill can “trash” Jacinda? It was claimed that Hilary had that advantage.

  4. roy cartland 4

    “Bill English. He is wooden, uninspiring, error prone, and his team are no longer capable”

    And the rest: Corrupt*. Capricious**. Insincere***. Duplicitous****. Backwardly conservative*****.

    * Sky City deal
    ** flip flop on gay marriage and parental leave
    *** Todd Barclay
    **** Double Dipton
    ***** abortion, civil union, prostitution

    • tracey 4.1

      When Key practically endorsed Ardern didnt you all wonder at his relationship with English and his own party. This will feed Keys ego even more… But all that has changed is the facade. Whatever is being said now about National was true under Key.

  5. tracey 5

    So fickle. Too many people view politics as being on the winning or losing team. Including Hosking. Boo fucken Hoo. Alot of Nationals 9 years was smoke and mirrors, a Marketing/Branding Case Study par excellence.

    Key was new and they could make him into an image. English is too well known as wooden to reframe as they did Key. Be clear, Key had little substance, used daily polls to manipulate people while selling our grandkids down the road to his mates.

    The damage this govt has done is right up there with the 84-90 Labour Govt and all those who fell for it, as I did in the 80s, are complicit. I hope they can look their grandchildren in the eyes.

    And that means you too Mike Hosking who had more power to stop it than t the rest of us.

    • ropata 5.2

      84-90 was an ACT government not Labour that’s why Lange stopped the madness with his “pause for a cup of tea”

      • tracey 5.2.1

        One of their number just became Auckland Mayor. Eager to use our money for an Americas Cup parafe he was silent our a parade for our recent World Cup win. Until recently he still had influence in Labour… Now our biggest city. Lest we forget.

  6. Janet 6

    Actually this time I agree with him but I don,t need to shower .

  7. greywarshark 7

    We live in interesting times.

    NZ Listener musing about possible civil war in USA.

    Mike Hosking suffering a huger brain fart than ever before.

    No other points, they have all been covered well by those here who have watched, judged and found him wanting in every sense.

  8. The decrypter 8

    A sure sign that nationals cheerleaders are now balking at being lemmings on the brink of nationals cliff.

  9. Philj 9

    Oscar Nominee for best Supporting Actor 2017 – Mike Hosking!

  10. Hanswurst 10

    Bill English is no John Key. He is Bill English. He is wooden, uninspiring, error prone […].

    The difference is only in the first two. Key was just as error-prone, but his presentation and reception in the media made up for it.

    • left_forward 10.1

      I’d change just one word – ‘…but his presentation and reception ‘ by ‘ the media made up for it.’

      IMO John Key didn’t have anything to do with it – his persona was entirely created by the media. Mike Hoskings played his part in creating the charade.

  11. Treetop 11

    What’s the PMs message, middle NZ is being bribed after being shafted.

  12. Darth smith 12

    And jacinda rises above the muck fresh young clean a fresh start for new Zealand

  13. tc 13

    Pathetic and disingenuous from the national party parrot. Cry me a river you manchild.

    Dont be fooled as the hosk is as sorry as key is for hollowing out nz for his mates and backers, spying on kiwis and wilfully making poverty and homeless growth industries.

  14. SpaceMonkey 14

    Whatever Hosking… not interested. As for Whaleoil… there should be no surprises there. He’s firmly in Collins’ camp so watch for the shit and bile to pour forth in support of her as National go into post-Government disunity and disarray.

  15. mosa 15

    A right wing sycophant becoming clean is an oxymoron as the dirt never really washes away.

  16. All we have is a tired, out of control administration clinging to power and willing to do anything, including stealing the ideas of its opponents, to hold onto the ministerial limousines.

    And their cheerleaders realise this is the case and they are hating it.

    IMO, National has always been willing to do that and their cheerleaders knew it. It’s just that even their cheerleaders can no longer deny it.

  17. mary_a 17

    Yes well, I feel (ab)used and contaminated when I read, see or hear something about Hosking. My skin crawls to the extent I experience the most urgent need to cleanse and decontaminate myself with a high pressure fire hose!

    Hosking is seeing the writing on the wall already. Next month when we have a Labour/Green government, I wonder what/who he will cling on to then? He will feel lonely and abandoned … oh dear what a shame, never mind, suck it up, get on with it you Tory loving cretinous creature!

  18. … ” But it’s just this time it seems or feels like any decorum, any philosophical standing and belief is out the window and replaced by Voter Idol and prizes for anyone with a hand out ”…

    ———————————-

    Now lets just rephrase the above sentence slightly … to interpret what Hosking is ACTUALLY saying…

    But it’s just this time it seems or feels like any free market ideology, any neo liberal standing and belief is out the window and replaced by Social Democracy and Keynesianism for anyone with a genuine need.

    There.

    Clarified it.

  19. KJT 19

    National pretending to be socialists.

    Must be election time.

  20. eco Maori/kiwi 20

    That Muppet Mike Hosking as soon as 1 news is finished we quickly change to tv3 or anything but Mike. He looks like he is always pissed and WTF BILLS on 3 better find something else to watch. We stop watching tv 3 when they dropped or key dropped
    Campbell

    • Herodotus 20.1

      To raise incomes, should we be rewarded by having our pay increased by How “successful” the economy is performing ? Tax cuts to raise funds is another way of the govt covering up for inadequate pay raises, the same with increasing accommodation allowances.
      Also by paying new teachers $3.5k additional to teach in Auckland, will we see the challenge to the government for nurses, medical technicians and other government workers being given the same to acknowledge the financial hardships for living in Auckland ?

      • tracey 20.1.1

        And the announcements in recent days of a lack of teachers in low decile schools and a lack of maths and science teachers it rather makes a mockery of that bonus going to every teacher, unless you are cynically using the taxpayer as an ATM to buy votes

  21. gnomic 21

    Nowt to do with NZ’s greatest living broadcaster and son of Holmsie ….. Why would one waste a second ……

    Seen today in a major provincial city, a National Party plastic electoral sign under assault from wind and rain. The upper half of the current pitch vote for stability and safety had folded down, exposing the visage of the smirking weasel and the slogan “Choose a Brighter Future”. Is there something we should be told? Has ‘Sir’ Weasel really retired to lucrative directorships? Yes, they had glued Blnglish over top of the weasel. Recycling to the max, never knew the Nats were so green.

    Well it made me chuckle. This may not be nationwide. Perhaps concerned citizens should investigate.

    • … ” The upper half of the current pitch vote for stability and safety had folded down, exposing the visage of the smirking weasel and the slogan “Choose a Brighter Future”. Is there something we should be told? Has ‘Sir’ Weasel really retired to lucrative directorships? ” …

      Relax.

      Do not be alarmed .

      What you were experiencing were the death throes of the National party exposing its many malicious neo liberal faces for all the public to see.

      Much like the T1000 did at the end of Terminator 2.

      Terminator 2 – The T1000 Death Scene – YouTube
      you tube▶ 1:08

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  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
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  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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