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Nat Civil War: ceasefire breached

Written By: - Date published: 6:35 am, May 9th, 2012 - 90 comments
Categories: Judith Collins, national, Steven Joyce - Tags: , ,

Well, that didn’t take long. A couple of weeks of quiet (probably thanks to some good polls more than anything) and, now, the National Party Civil War has re-erupted as the Collins and Joyce factions fight over the post-Key future.

A few weeks ago, we got tipped off about a candidates’ course for Nats that Simon Lusk and Cameron Slater were going to run in Christchurch. It’s part of their model, seen as dirty by many in the National Party, of identifying potential candidates to take on as clients, and running smear campaigns for them against other Nats for cash. Our stringer fell through and then the Banks stuff blew-up, so we never covered the meeting. But it seems the anti-Lusk leaks kept coming.

Here’s the description of the event we were sent:

Running for Local Government
Simon Lusk & Cameron Slater
Training Session
April 21st & 22nd 2012
The purpose of this session is to help aspiring National candidates and those who want to win local government races. This will be an interactive session with an emphasis on Q&A. It will build knowledge about campaigning and how individuals should win
Venue
The Copthorne Hotel Commodore, Christchurch. One of the South Island participants suggested a South Island venue to see how committed Aucklanders are. Details to be confirmed.
Cost will be $100 to cover lunch, dinner and the venue. Please bring cash to pay on the day.
Note agenda is rough, it will go over two days like last time, but I have to confirm speakers etc.
1.       Why Local Government?                     Simon Lusk                   10.00

2.       Council, Community Board, DHB or Consumer Trust?       Cam Slater  10.15

 

And here’s Slater giving the game away, as is his wont, on Facebook:

I bring this up now because of TV3’s piece last night and the Dom’s article this morning. It seems someone has leaked National Party board minutes. There can hardly be a greater breach of the party’s security than having that information in the public eye, except for the leaking of the emails of the leader himself.

The leaking itself highlights the level of factional infighting in National, as do the contents.

The minutes reveal that Micheal Woodhouse has been warning MPs off using Slater/Lusk’s services saying he had had discussions “to let them know it is not appropriate … to engage”. He went on to report a “disturbing discussion that he has had with Simon Lusk that highlighted his motivations and a very negative agenda for the party”.

“Negative agenda” and the names Lusk and Slater go together automatically. The whole modus operandi of the pair is to get in the pay of a prospective National candidate or a company with union troubles and then smear their opponents. So much of this activity is directed against other Nats that it is self-destructive. And it clearly worries senior Nats.

So, what is the “negative agenda for the party” that Woodhouse refers to? Lusk must be feeling pretty confident about the future for his agenda if he is willing to openly discuss it with a senior MP who isn’t aligned to him. And well he might. His machinations have gotten at least a dozen MPs their seats. But Woodhouse’s comments hint at something larger, as does the leaking of the minutes in and of itself.

You can’t help but see this as a continuation of the Collins faction vs the Joyce faction. Lusk and Slater are known to be agents of the Collins faction, and Joyce is known to have particular ill-will for Lusk because of his party-damaging tactics.

Another area of disagreement appears to be on how to treat the Conservative Party. The more liberal Joyce faction sees the need for a rightwing partner and sees space for a separate social conservative party. Party President Peter Goodfellow has been openly courting the Conservatives to fill that space and there is talk of giving them the Rodney electorate next election.

But the Collins faction doesn’t like it. They don’t want a partner party in the socially conservative, Christian space as that’s exactly where they want to take National. They would have preferred a revitalised ACT (remember Slater/Lusk were up to their eyeballs in the Brash coup of ACT).

You can see the evidence in Slater’s writing on the subject. He doesn’t want Mark Mitchell (another Lusk scion) to have to step aside to let Colin Craig win Rodney. He says that Steven Joyce would “do a deal with the devil to preserve his own power, and if this means tanking a seat he will try”. He criticises Joyce for National’s decision not to actively campaign for FPP, which would eliminate the need for National to have governing partners.. He lashes out at Murray McCully saying that if anyone should be giving up his seat for Craig, it should be McCully.

It all comes down to who is going to have the numbers post-Key and, importantly in the National Party, whose MPs will be electorate MPs. A strong Conservative Party could see some Collins faction MPs unseated and potentially out of Parliament in a tighter race with Labour as the socially conservative rightwing vote would be split.

With ACT gone, Slater/Lusk would prefer to see the the right remain monolithic – sucking up all the rightwing vote – and concentrate on screwing over their internal opponents and getting more MPs for the Collins faction. Clearly, other factions within the party are keen to put the spotlight on what they are up to.

90 comments on “Nat Civil War: ceasefire breached ”

  1. ad 1

    Are these factions or simply rogue spinoffs or something of both? Odd to have Slater-Lusk, Boag-and-deepblueAuckland, and Collins, and Joyce, all jockeying at the same time. Key’s personal popularity remains strong even if slightly weakened. If I were him I would be swinging people like Eagleson into the action to bang heads – the welfare moves feel like good hard spin in action.

    Such a relief to watch another party rift rather than Labour. Labour’s own remit conferences will be interesting to see activists coalescing around MPs.

    It’s beginning to feel like Key’s just holding it together until Budget, after which the Banks Police report will come in and things get a whole lot harder.

    Hope the next dinner Shearer has is with Russell Norman, geting ready for a real and integrated tilt. We need to start the campaign for 2014 much earlier this time. Like this year.

    • the welfare moves feel like good hard spin in action.
      they are good hard spin, a veneer of common sense masking a deplorable and disgusting philosophy. The last attempt at distraction from the Banks debacle (legislation to discourage alien invasions – WTF?) was pretty ineffective.

      • Pete George 1.1.1

        You do realise that in amongst all the “scandals” there’s an imminent budget and it’s not uncommon for actual government business to get a bit of an airing too amongst all the fluff?

        Or are you suggesting Paula Bennet anticipated and coordinated her release with Trevor Mallard’s grand announcements before the media that got the same information beat him to it.

        • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1

          Or are you suggesting Paula Bennet anticipated and coordinated her release with Trevor Mallard’s grand announcements before the media that got the same information beat him to it.

          Uh, it looks like YOU just suggested that.

        • Armchair Critic 1.1.1.2

          With regard to your first question, yes, and the second qquestion, no

    • dan1 1.2

      Just look at Key’s eyes. Dead man walking. He knows what is in store. It is sad. He is out of his depth. Fascinating politics.

  2. higherstandard 2

    I’m sure Cameron Slater loves the attention he gets from this site.

    • Colonial Viper 2.1

      He can get even more if he leaks us jucier stuff from the top 🙂

  3. Sanctuary 3

    Rod Lingard must be worried, they are stealing his business!

  4. I found Key’s interview last night on TV3 fascinating.  And can’t think but he told porkies.  First he was not aware of any problems and then when he realised TV3 had the minutes he downplayed them.  

    It appears he has been given lessons by John Banks on the handling of crises and on how to retain information in his memory.

    And you really get the feeling that in their pursuit of winning the leadership battle they have lost sight of what for all political parties should be the ultimate goal, the Government benches.

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      Or the ultimate goal of helping the people of NZ and this great country get ahead and stay ahead in what is going to be a very difficult next 25 years.

  5. Hilary 5

    MS – In that TV3 piece there were some interesting expressions on the faces of other National Party MPs.

  6. captain hook 6

    seems like there is a need for a new defintion for the national party.

  7. deuto 7

    Re the DomPost article linked to in the post, it would be interesting to know who the five Nat MPS were that attended the Puhoi conference in January and the two who attended the April conference in Christchurch.

    Found the following at the end of the article hilarious:

    A National insider denied there was a serous rift.

    “Simon’s a bit of a loose element. … but there’s no civil war in National. There’s not a lot [of relevance] apart from there are people in the National party who don’t like each other.”

    People who don’t like one another within the party is not a rift or potential rift?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 7.1

      For National insider , read David Farrar. Hes playing the one armed paper hanger role here

  8. deuto 8

    Ooops – for some reason that went up twice and it would not let me cancel the second one.

  9. “we got tipped off”, “Our stringer”, “we never covered the meeting.” “we were sent”

    Eddie, seems like you are talking on behalf of multiple people. Is it not unreasonable to expect that you say who you are speaking for? Or have you posted something given to you by someone else and have forgotten to attribute it?

    • Zetetic 9.1

      Eddie’s writing about material sent to The Standard – the we referred to is Standard authors.

      The Standard doesn’t do ghost written pieces, unlike farrar and slater.

      Think carefully before making such insinuations again.

      • Pete George 9.1.1

        I wasn’t insinuating, I was asking. It gets a bit confusing here.

        Sometimes we are told very strongly that we must attribute what we include in comments. Sometimes it doesn’t seem to matter.

        This was posted under Eddie’s name, usually generic or joint efforts are posted under “The Standard”. There was nothing in the post that explained this was “The Standard” posting.

        “the we referred to is Standard authors.”

        And that is also confusing, because as we are often reminded “The Standard” is not a single entity, it is a bunch of individuals who usdually post independently under a common banner.

    • We are witnessing civil war breaking out in National’s ranks, the leaking of highly sensitive information possibly from within the PM’s office, the destabilizing of the Government and Petey wants to speculate on who Eddie might be …

  10. Sanctuary 10

    You know Pete George is completely banned at the dimpost and things are going along swimmingly without him… Just sayin.

      • Pete George 10.1.1

        While trying to talk up “civil war” with the other lot…

        Labour faces Samoan ire in Mangere

        Labour’s Mangere MP Su’a William Sio is facing a rebellion from a big group of his own Samoan people who plan to stand their own candidate against him.

        I’d have thought that the Chair of Labour’s Auckland-Northland Regional Council would be more concerned about his own “rebellions” than putting all his focus into petty interparty pointscoring.

        • deuto 10.1.1.1

          WARNING – attempted diversion. Please do not feed the troll.

        • mickysavage 10.1.1.2

          You know Petey as I type this you have made five comments on this page.  They cover a number of subjects such as the budget, who Eddie is and who he or she is speaking for, possible problems in Mangere because Sua William Sio thinks that some collectors are too exuberant, and whether or not you are banned from dimpost.

          You have not addressed the subject matter once, not even to decry gotcha politics which in this case admittedly is a completely stupid thing to say.

          You aren’t trying to divert attention or destroy the thread are you? 

          • Pete George 10.1.1.2.1

            You’re right, it’d be a quiet post if I hadn’t commented – it’s worth noting that for every one of my comments there’s several associated comments – no diversions or varied topics amongst them?

            But it’s hard to get excited about differences within a party – without which we’d probably have leaks about how conformist everyone was forced to be.

    • Odd, how do you know that? I’m not aware of anything specific like that, Danyl doesn’t appear to have guts to say anything about his censorships – to me, anyway.

      • Colonial Viper 10.2.1

        Censorship? Banning you is simply exercising a reasonable sense of decorum, surely.

      • bbfloyd 10.2.2

        actually petey… your comments are just clutter…..i stop reading the comment section when you start monopolising it….it just get rather self serving and tedious….

        and to put your last comment in rational perspective… if you weren’t commenting here, then we may be able to actually have a useful discussion…… you really are becoming a pest…..

        the only reason i’m bothering this time is to inform you of an opinion i have held since the first time you spoiled a perfectly good discussion with your party political drivel…

    • deuto 10.3

      Agreed that there is a marked difference/improvement without his continual diversions/trite comments. Don’t know whether or not he was formally banned or whether the scathing nature of many of the responses to his comments led him to desist commenting there.

      • tc 10.3.1

        Would clean up alot of diversionary and irrelevant dross off the many threads PG jumps on.

        It’s the one he leaves alone that say alot about the diversionary trolling he indulges in all cloaked in waffly statements and links to his site to appear ‘reasonable’.

        • Pete George 10.3.1.1

          It’s the one he leaves alone

          Are you suggesting I shouldn’t leave any alone so as to appear balanced?

          Don’t worry, I don’t intend posting on more things – apart from not having the time or inclination many topics simply don’t interest me, some I think are too ridiculous to bother with, and some topics I keep and eye on to see where they are going and to learn from them.

          Why do you leave some things alone? Are you a diversionary drosser or something?

          • bbfloyd 10.3.1.1.1

            thanks for that petey…. so i can look forward to not having to skim past the “pete george” section to get to the real debate? that’s fantastic news….

            btw…you do the “sniff and stalk off in a dignified huff” really really well…

  11. Hillary 11

    “cash” to cover lunch, dinner, venue!!!?????

    Why does Slater deal in cash?
    Does the lunches, dinner & venue become a ‘business’ expenses?
    Is this cash declared?
    Does Slater have any business operating?
    Who with?
    How many?
    Where are they registered?
    NZ or offshore?
    Has Cactus Kate given Slater any advice about offshore entities?
    Where does Slater get his fees from?
    How does Slater survive financially?
    Does Slater get advertising revenue from his website?
    Does Lusk pay Slater to write stories pro / anti candidates?
    Does Slater get fees from candidates as part of the Slater/Lusk duo?
    Is Slater still collecting a Winz/sickness benefit?
    How does Slater pay for lavish drinks and means on a beneficiary income?
    Is Slater obtaining an income or earnings from businesses?

    So many unanswered questions.

    Maybe someone has some answers?

    • Sanctuary 11.1

      Or perhaps someone could raise this “cash” stipulation with the IRD?

      • ghostwhowalksnz 11.1.1

        It just means they have no eftpos/credit card facilities.
        I wouldnt read too much into the cash only comment.

        Would have to show IRD the venture was for business purposes to claim the cost of venue hire -airfares, so declaring the money is best way to do it.

        • felix 11.1.1.1

          *Declaring some of the money, hence the requirement for cash only.

    • felix 11.2

      Also, “is the $100 fee GST inclusive?”

    • deuto 11.3

      LOL – great list of questions! I am sure many people would be interested in the answers to these.

      Perhaps someone should raise these questions with IRD and/or WINZ. They both have confidential phone numbers to discuss possible fraud/misuse of benefits etc

      IRD – 0800 225 610
      WINZ – 0800 556 006.

    • tracey 11.4

      My understanding is that he has never collected from WINZ. Apparently his insurance covered mental illness.

      • ghostwhowalksnz 11.4.1

        Well it did , until they stopped paying it because he was back ‘working’
        He made a big fuss about taking on Fidelity Life, and how he doesnt back down. But its been quiet on that front for a year or two.
        Could be on the civil list or his lawyer told him he doesnt have a real chance of success unless they settle at the ‘steps of the court’

        • Tracey 11.4.1.1

          I have no time for him, his methods and his deep seated anger, however I don’t believe he would be stupid enough to draw a benefit given his stance on those very things.

          • ghostwhowalksnz 11.4.1.1.1

            His wife works so that wouldnt be possible

            • Akldnut 11.4.1.1.1.1

              If I remember correctly he took a trip to Egypt about 12-18 months ago, he wouldn’t have been able to do that while on the dole.

          • John M 11.4.1.1.2

            He definitely was getting a sickness benefit and he definitely isn’t getting one now. Issue though is how did he present his finances including assets or income received from those assets in order to qualify for a sickness benefit? Hillary asked what advice did he get from Cactus Kate on offshore arrangements but I wonder whether the question should be what advice did he get from her on how to structure his finances so that WINZ still paid him a sickness benefit? I always thought you had to have pretty much nothing to get a benefit so surely structuring (or hiding) money to get a benefit is fraud? Anyone know about the benefit rules?

            • Descendant Of Smith 11.4.1.1.2.1

              “I always thought you had to have pretty much nothing to get a benefit ”

              When advocating for people this is one of the phrases I used to dislike the most.

              So many people were left with nothing because they were told this – in some sad cases (when workers were laid off from a firm by an idiot union delegate who decided he knew better than the Social Welfare staff (I’m showing my age now) who had explained things quite clearly)) people spent up to $60,000 in redundancy before seeking benefit assistance.

              Benefits such as unemployment and sickness and DPB are not asset tested they are only income tested. The income off any assets is income and may reduce the benefit.

              Addition payments such as food assistance and accommodation assistance is asset tested.

              The information is not hard to find out.

              • John M

                Sure, so did Cactus Kate advise Slater how to hide assets so he could get the accommodation benefit and how to hide income from those assets so he could get the sickness benefit?

                • Cactus Kate

                  Hilarious. A local accountant from West Auckland would be far more useful to use for that than me. Funnily enough getting around a few hundred dollars at WINZ doesn’t really rip the kilt nor provide me with income to keep me in the style I am accustomed to. I never did that sort of work even when I was in NZ.

    • mac1 11.5

      Haven’t they just learned, slow though they be, that cheques for services rendered cause problems a la Bankie? They can be photocopied, traced, used as evidence of fraud, corroborate individual involvement……. useful things, cheques.

    • Cactus Kate 11.6

      What utterly dumb questions.
      If Slater had offshore cash stashed away then he could pay more often for bloody lunch.
      I prefer my clientele to be ones that pay me. I know it is a hard concept to deal with but charity has never begun at home with me.

  12. Ugy 12

    Is the insurance company still covering him?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 12.1

      No. Thats what all the talk about ‘suing the pants off them’ was about.
      His previous business went bust which was the trigger for his depression.
      But that sort of illness is pretty certain for someone like him who exits all the symptoms of Oppositional defiant disorder. Usually starts in childhood and symptoms are
      Actively does not follow adults’ requests

      Angry and resentful of others

      Argues with adults

      Blames others for own mistakes

      Has few or no friends or has lost friends

      Is in constant trouble in school

      Loses temper

      Spiteful or seeks revenge

      Touchy or easily annoyed

      Not necessary to have every sympton

      • ianmac 12.1.1

        Crikey ghost! That’s me to a Tee! No wonder my Mum tied me to the clothesline as a kid!

      • Can we please not discuss Slater’s illness(es) and benefits in a public forum? Not just because it treats mental illness as a football, but also because it’s a distraction from the many legitimately unacceptable things Slater does that he can be rightfully criticised for.

        His benefit shouldn’t be up for public discussion, either, if he received one. If he’s committed fraud to get one, then that’s something that should be forwarded to the authorities, and only discussed publicly if they fail to act on that information.

        • felix 12.1.2.1

          +1 WINZ are big and ugly enough to sort him out if need be without any of our help.

        • ghostwhowalksnz 12.1.2.2

          Its in the public domain- mostly by Slater himself.

  13. Dr Terry 13

    I hope that everybody has read the reports concerning this country posted on Internet, from Amnesty International, and the Human Rights Commission on NZ welfare reforms? I think such bodies deserve to be taken seriously, even by those who are unhappy with them..

  14. Despite all the urgent scandalising – the “leaked” (or stolen) documents are over a year old – March 2011.

    I’ve got some questions for David Shearer.

    Is it ethical for a Labour run website to store and make available documents that are obviously confidential and belonging to another party? And are reported as possibly stolen?

    • ghostwhowalksnz 14.1

      They always say they are stolen….its funny they dont go to the police at the time , only when they become public.
      Its Lusk Campaign School 101- Blowing smoke ( to cover up )

      • Pete George 14.1.1

        Poor attempt – at the very least they knew they weren’t documents they should have in their possession. Not a good look for a supposedly senior MP – or do you think that sort of thing is fine?

        • McFlock 14.1.1.1

          Seems to be a significant “public interest” factor there, petey. 
                
          After all, it’s not like it’s a leak of WINZ recipients’ personal information. the people have a right to know if their ruling party is fracturing badly beneath the surface.

      • tc 14.1.2

        Doesn’t stop Petey from running his masters spin lines out though like the good troll he is.

      • McFlock 14.1.3

        Frankly, I’m not sure which is worse – an organisation that is so dysfunctional that authorised people are breaching confidence to score minor political points; or that an organisation that has not even basic protocols for securing confidential information in place is running the country  (e.g. ministerial emails being forwarded to private webmail accounts)

    • Um the documents are dated March 2012.

      Farrar is running the line they are “stolen” but has provided no proof.  He says that one board member claimed his were stolen and his name were on them but there is no proof of either happening.

      Besides the copy that has been photocopied were obviously sitting in a ring binder and had holes punched in them.  More likely someone’s office copy was recopied.

      Crosby Textor would be proud of your efforts today Petey. 

      • Pete George 14.2.1

        TV3 was running the line they could be stolen. I hope you know a bit about law.

        I see the heading has 2012, but all the footers are 2011, confusing.

        It’s not a good look for Labour to be directly involved in this sort of thing?

        • mickysavage 14.2.1.1

          So you assumed you were right and used this as a weapon without checking.

          If you had given it the slightest thought you would realise it must be from 2012.  It refers to the death of Barry Leay which occurred in October 2011 and also refers to the MMP review which is happening now.

          And then you cite a source which says the papers could be stolen and without thinking of it at all use this as support for a proposition that the minutes are stolen.

          I am all for free speech and the contest of ideas.  But Petey your comments are so full of spin that it is really hard to take you seriously.

          • Colonial Viper 14.2.1.1.1

            I always have to remind myself that PG is not an algorithmic troll bot, he’s apparently a flesh and blood human being.

          • QoT 14.2.1.1.2

            It’s a wonderful illustration of how Petey has never had to type his own minutes, too.

          • Pete George 14.2.1.1.3

            Mallard has claimed the documents were leaked, as have you and lprent and Eddie.

            But Mallard also claims not to know where they came from, so how could he know it was a leak?

            Mr Mallard said he received the minutes by fax and they were also posted to him in a brown envelope. He did not know the source.

            http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6891867/Key-suggests-leaked-minutes-were-stolen

            So he doesn’t know if he has retained possession of stolen property or not, and then stored and distributed them via the Labour MP website.

            Not a good look for a senior MP who accuses others of ethical deficiencies.

            • mickysavage 14.2.1.1.3.1

              Any proof Mallard stole his fax paper or that the photocopy paper was stolen?  If not please go away and stop being a repeater.

              • As a lawyer, if you received documents by fax that were clearly confidential and obviously not intended for your use, could you ethically keep them? Would you store them on your company website and make them available for others to view. Would you distribute them?

                There’s some simple questions that should be simple for you to answer.

                • So Petey one minute the documents are stolen and Mallard has received them, now it is “unethical” to keep them.

                  Do you think it is unethical to accuse someone of having committed a crime when you agree they have not?

                  • a) I haven’t accused someone of having committed a crime
                    b) I haven’t agreed they have not committed a crime

                    You have avoided answering the questions.

                    • I haven’t accused someone of having committed a crime

                      You have done everything but.  For instance you have said:

                      Is it ethical for a Labour run website to store and make available documents that are obviously confidential and belonging to another party? And are reported as possibly stolen?

                      TV3 was running the line they could be stolen.

                      So he doesn’t know if he has retained possession of stolen property or not

                      You should learn Petey that being a repeated is not a defence in a defamation suit.

                      And I look forward to your answering my question “Do you think it is unethical to accuse someone of having committed a crime when you agree they have not?”

                    • You must have missed seeing my last comment. I answered you:

                      a) I haven’t accused someone of having committed a crime
                      b) I haven’t agreed they have not committed a crime

                      You have avoided answering the questions. Twice now.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Pete: Did you, or did you not, say this:

                      “Shearer stands silently by while Labour website is used to distribute illegally obtained documents.”?

                      That’s a statement (not a question) saying that the documents were illegally obtained.

                    • lprent []

                      Yeah, you have to love that assertion that the documents were illegally obtained. Since physical security is the primary way of keeping documents secure, it is far more likely that the were leaked by someone than they were physically stolen.

                      If they were stolen, then presumably there is a complaint about a breakin to the police? Nope? Probably leaked by someone with legitimate physical access. That puts it into the realm of a whistleblower and out of the realm of a crime.

                      Pete is just trying to make up his own laws again. The best that National could do is argue that they own the copyright. But that runs into issues of public interest.

                      Lusk and Slater appear to be quite divisive to National. We have been getting quite a lot of material from inside National about them arriving here. I would guess that it is in response to their negative campaigning against members of National.

                    • felix

                      lol Pete. Have to be careful with language and punctuation, some people think it’s used to convey meaning.

                      the “leaked” (or stolen) documents

                      In this instance the “quotes” could be sarcastically saying “not really leaked”, and the parentheses could be whispering (but we all know they were actually stolen).

                      Or maybe you didn’t intend sarcastic quotes. A more charitable – and literal – reading might be that the quotes are actual quotes. In this instance the quotes would be saying “leaked is a word that has been used to describe the documents and I’m making a point of not using that word to describe them myself” while the parentheses offer the alternative possibility (stolen).

                      As no other alternative possibilities are given, it’s reasonable to infer that you think it’s one or the other – they were either leaked or stolen – but you definitely don’t want to say they were leaked (hence the quotes).

                      There may be other ways to interpret your comment but those are the two obvious ones, sarcastic or literal.

                      In either version it’s difficult to see how you’re not claiming the documents were stolen, but maybe you do have another interpretation. I guess we’ll see.

        • MikeG 14.2.1.2

          It’s interesting how that according the the right, anything from the National Party that gets into the wrong hands is “stolen”, but anything of a similar nature that comes from Labour is “leaked”.

          • Pascal's bookie 14.2.1.2.1

            Personally, If I was going to make a big deal about something being stolen, I’d go to the police.

            but I’ve always been a bit odd.

            • Colonial Viper 14.2.1.2.1.1

              If it was 2 weeks before an election, ShonKey would have organised the police raid personally.

      • ghostwhowalksnz 14.2.2

        Poor old Pete , dying in a ditch to defend some National party documents. Who would have guessed, since UF wins no matter what the voters choose

        • Pascal's bookie 14.2.2.1

          He’s frothing away over at kiwiblog that the reaction here proves, something:

          When the usual suspects swarm on a post you know they are trying to cloud out something sensitive.

          Then asserts that there has been a crime commited, and that Shearer should do, something:

          Shearer stands silently by while Labour website is used to distribute illegally obtained documents.

          And then asks if the thing Shearer should do something about, is a crime:

          Can any lawyers say what the legal situation is on distributing documents known to be confidential and obviously not intended to be seen by the recipient?

          And then fades away with a bizzare claim about, something:

          “Public interest” has been claimed, but an MP on party blog is hardly an unbiased media.

          He’s pretty weird. I don’t know why people still encourage his, whatever it is.

  15. Te Reo Putake 15

    I think I’ve just spotted the quote of the day! One minute in, a weary man contemplates the future. It’s almost Beckett like in its bleakness.

  16. bomber 16

    The Lusk & Slator conspiracy: The God & Guns Republicanization of the National Party – http://tumeke.blogspot.co.nz/2012/05/lusk-slator-conspiracy-god-guns.html

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    Matariki tohu mate, rātou ki a rātou Matariki tohu ora, tātou ki a tātou Tīhei Matariki Matariki – remembering those who have passed Matariki – celebrating the present and future Salutations to Matariki   I want to begin by thanking everyone who is here today, and in particular the Matariki ...
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  • First Matariki holiday marked across New Zealand and the world
    Oho mai ana te motu i te rangi nei ki te hararei tūmatanui motuhake tuatahi o Aotearoa, Te Rā Aro ki a Matariki, me te hono atu a te Pirīmia a Jacinda Ardern ki ngā mahi whakanui a te motu i tētahi huihuinga mō te Hautapu i te ata nei.    ...
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  • Minister to attend second United Nations Ocean Conference in Portugal
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister David Parker will represent Aotearoa New Zealand at the second United Nations (UN) Ocean Conference in Lisbon, Portugal, which runs from 27 June to 1 July. The Conference will take stock of progress and aims to galvanise further action towards Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 14, to "conserve and sustainably use ...
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    2 days ago
  • Government supports innovative dairy sheep sector to scale up
    The Government is boosting its partnership with New Zealand’s dairy sheep sector to help it lift its value and volume, and become an established primary industry, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has announced. “Globally, the premium alternative dairy category is growing by about 20 percent a year. With New Zealand food ...
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  • Government supports Buller flood recovery and longer term resilience
    The Government is continuing to support the Buller district to recover from severe flooding over the past year, Minister for Emergency Management Kieran McAnulty announced today during a visit with the local leadership. An extra $10 million has been announced to fund an infrastructure recovery programme, bringing the total ...
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    2 days ago
  • Government outlines plans for future COVID-19 variants
    “The Government has undertaken preparatory work to combat new and more dangerous variants of COVID-19,” COVID-19 Response Minister Dr Ayesha Verrall set out today. “This is about being ready to adapt our response, especially knowing that new variants will likely continue to appear. “We have undertaken a piece of work ...
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    3 days ago
  • Next steps for NZ UK free trade agreement
    The Government’s strong trade agenda is underscored today with the introduction of the United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill to the House, Trade and Export Growth Minister Damien O’Connor announced today. “I’m very pleased with the quick progress of the United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill being introduced ...
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    3 days ago
  • Five new members join education Youth Advisory Group
    A ministerial advisory group that provides young people with an opportunity to help shape the education system has five new members, Minister of Education Chris Hipkins said today. “I am delighted to announce that Harshinni Nayyar, Te Atamihi Papa, Humaira Khan, Eniselini Ali and Malakai Tahaafe will join the seven ...
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    3 days ago
  • Address to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons First Meeting of States Party
    Austria Centre, Vienna   [CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY] E ngā mana, e ngā reo Tēnā koutou katoa Thank you, Mr President. I extend my warm congratulations to you on the assumption of the Presidency of this inaugural meeting of States Parties to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons. You ...
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    3 days ago
  • Govt makes sure support workers have right to take pay-equity claim
    The Government is taking action to make sure homecare and support workers have the right to take a pay-equity claim, while at the same time protecting their current working conditions and delivering a pay rise. “In 2016, homecare and support workers – who look after people in their own homes ...
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    3 days ago
  • Targeted second COVID-19 booster a step closer
    A law change passed today streamlines the process for allowing COVID-19 boosters to be given without requiring a prescription. Health Minister Andrew Little said the changes made to the Medicines Act were a more enduring way to manage the administration of vaccine boosters from now on. “The Ministry of Health’s ...
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    4 days ago
  • Commerce Commission empowered to crackdown on covenants
    New powers will be given to the Commerce Commission allowing it to require supermarkets to hand over information regarding contracts, arrangements and land covenants which make it difficult for competing retailers to set up shop. “The Government and New Zealanders have been very clear that the grocery sector is not ...
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    4 days ago
  • Plasterboard taskforce set up to ease shortages
    Ministerial taskforce of industry experts will give advice and troubleshoot plasterboard shortages Letter of expectation sent to Fletcher Building on trademark protections A renewed focus on competition in the construction sector The Minister for Building and Construction Megan Woods has set up a Ministerial taskforce with key construction, building ...
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    4 days ago
  • First Matariki public holiday celebrated with a unique broadcasting collaboration
    Minister for Māori Development Willie Jackson and Minister for Māori Crown Relations Te Arawhiti Kelvin Davis announced today the inaugural Matariki public holiday will be marked by a pre-dawn hautapu ceremony at Te Papa Tongarewa, and will be a part of a five-hour broadcast carried by all major broadcasters in ...
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    4 days ago
  • Health volunteers recognised at Parliament
    Volunteers from all over the country are being recognised in this year’s Minister of Health Volunteer Awards, just announced at an event in Parliament’s Grand Hall. “These awards celebrate and recognise the thousands of dedicated health and disability sector volunteers who give many hours of their time to help other ...
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    5 days ago
  • Trade Minister to travel to Europe, Canada and Australia to advance economic recovery
    New Zealand’s trade agenda continues to build positive momentum as Trade and Export Growth Minister Damien O’Connor travels to Europe, Canada and Australia to advance New Zealand’s economic interests. “Our trade agenda has excellent momentum, and is a key part of the Government’s wider plan to help provide economic security for ...
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  • Prime Minister to travel to Europe and Australia
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern will leave this weekend to travel to Europe and Australia for a range of trade, tourism and foreign policy events. “This is the third leg of our reconnecting plan as we continue to promote Aotearoa New Zealand’s trade and tourism interests. We’re letting the world know ...
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    5 days ago
  • Remarks to ICAN Nuclear Ban Forum session “The Ban is the Plan and this is Why”
    [CHECK AGAINST DELIVERY] Nga mihi ki a koutou. Let me start by acknowledging the nuclear survivors, the people who lost their lives to nuclear war or testing, and all the peoples driven off their lands by nuclear testing, whose lands and waters were poisoned, and who suffer the inter-generational health ...
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    5 days ago
  • New Zealand leadership contributes to significant progress at the WTO
    New Zealand’s leadership has contributed to a number of significant outcomes and progress at the Twelfth Ministerial Conference (MC12) of the World Trade Organization (WTO), which concluded in the early hours of Friday morning after a week of intense negotiations between its 164 members. A major outcome is a new ...
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    7 days ago
  • Meth addiction service launched in Eastern Bay of Plenty
    The Government has delivered on its commitment to roll out the free methamphetamine harm reduction programme Te Ara Oranga to the eastern Bay of Plenty, with services now available in Murupara. “We’re building a whole new mental health system, and that includes expanding successful programmes like Te Ara Oranga,” Health ...
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    1 week ago
  • Creatives in Schools Round 4 open for applications
    Kura and schools around New Zealand can start applying for Round 4 of the Creatives in Schools programme, Minister for Education Chris Hipkins and Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Carmel Sepuloni said today. Both ministers were at Auckland’s Rosehill Intermediate to meet with the ākonga, teachers and the professional ...
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    1 week ago
  • Opening speech for MEETINGS 2022
    It is my pleasure to be here at MEETINGS 2022. I want to start by thanking Lisa and Steve from Business Events Industry Aotearoa and everyone that has been involved in organising and hosting this event. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to welcome you all here. It is ...
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    1 week ago
  • Reconnecting across the Tasman: Australia – Aotearoa New Zealand Foreign Minister Consultations
    Aotearoa New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs, Hon Nanaia Mahuta and Australian Minister for Foreign Affairs, Senator the Hon Penny Wong, met in Wellington today for the biannual Australia - Aotearoa New Zealand Foreign Minister Consultations. Minister Mahuta welcomed Minister Wong for her first official visit to Aotearoa New Zealand ...
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    1 week ago
  • Global challenges reflected in March quarter GDP
    The volatile global situation has been reflected in today’s quarterly GDP figures, although strong annual growth shows New Zealand is still well positioned to deal with the challenging global environment, Grant Robertson said. GDP fell 0.2 percent in the March quarter, as the global economic trends caused exports to fall ...
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    1 week ago
  • One million New Zealanders vaccinated against flu
    More than a million New Zealanders have already received their flu vaccine in time for  winter, but we need lots more to get vaccinated to help relieve pressure on the health system, Health Minister Andrew Little says. “Getting to one million doses by June is a significant milestone and sits ...
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  • NZ Principals Federation MOOT SPEECH -Friday 10 June 2022 
    It’s a pleasure to be here today in person “ka nohi ke te ka nohi, face to face as we look back on a very challenging two years when you as Principals, as leaders in education, have pivoted, and done what you needed to do, under challenging circumstances for your ...
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  • Provincial Growth Fund already delivering jobs and economic boost to the regions
    The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is successfully creating jobs and boosting regional economic growth, an independent evaluation report confirms. Economic and Regional Development Minister Stuart Nash announced the results of the report during a visit to the Mihiroa Marae in Hastings, which recently completed renovation work funded through the PGF. ...
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    1 week ago
  • Pre-departure tests removed from June 20
    Travellers to New Zealand will no longer need a COVID-19 pre-departure test from 11.59pm Monday 20 June, COVID-19 Response Minister Dr Ayesha Verrall announced today. “We’ve taken a careful and staged approach to reopening our borders to ensure we aren’t overwhelmed with an influx of COVID-19 cases. Our strategy has ...
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    1 week ago
  • Foreign Minister to attend CHOGM
    Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta will travel to Rwanda this week to represent New Zealand at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) in Kigali. “This is the first CHOGM meeting since 2018 and I am delighted to be representing Aotearoa New Zealand,” Nanaia Mahuta said.  “Reconnecting New Zealand with the ...
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    1 week ago
  • Joint Statement: Agreement on Climate Change, Trade and Sustainability (ACCTS) at MC12
    We, the Ministers for trade from Costa Rica, Fiji, Iceland, New Zealand, Norway and Switzerland, welcome the meeting of Agreement on Climate Change, Trade and Sustainability (ACCTS) partners on 15 June 2022, in Geneva to discuss progress on negotiations for the ACCTS. Our meeting was chaired by Hon Damien O’Connor, New Zealand’s Minister for ...
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  • New Chief Censor appointed
    Internal Affairs Minister Jan Tinetti has today announced Caroline Flora as the new Chief Censor of Film and Literature, for a three-year term from 20 July. Ms Flora is a senior public servant who has recently held the role of Associate Deputy‑Director General System Strategy and Performance at the Ministry ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government tackles elder abuse
    Eleven projects are being funded as part of the Government’s efforts to prevent elder abuse, Minister for Seniors Dr Ayesha Verrall announced as part of World Elder Abuse Awareness Day.  “Sadly one in 10 older people experience elder abuse in New Zealand, that is simply unacceptable,” Ayesha Verrall said. “Our ...
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  • New connectivity funding for more rural homes and businesses
    More New Zealand homes, businesses and communities will soon benefit from fast and reliable connectivity, regardless of where they live, study and work,” Minister for the Digital Economy and Communications, David Clark said today. “The COVID-19 pandemic has shown us time and again how critical a reliable connection is for ...
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  • Phil Twyford to attend Nuclear Ban Treaty meeting
    Disarmament and Arms Control Minister Phil Twyford will lead Aotearoa New Zealand’s delegation to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons (TPNW) First Meeting of States Parties in Austria later this month, following a visit to the Netherlands. The Nuclear Ban Treaty is the first global treaty to make nuclear ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Australian Foreign Minister to visit for talks
    Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta will this week welcome Australian Foreign Minister, Senator the Hon. Penny Wong on her first official visit to Aotearoa New Zealand as Foreign Minister. “I am delighted to be able to welcome Senator Wong to Wellington for our first in-person bilateral foreign policy consultations, scheduled for ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Government’s School Investment Package supports 4,500 projects
    State schools have made thousands of site, infrastructure and classroom improvements, as well as upgrades to school sports facilities and playgrounds over the past two and a half years through a major government work programme, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. The School Investment Package announced in December 2019 gave ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • PM Ardern shares warm meeting with Samoa PM
    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern had a warm and productive meeting with Samoa Prime Minister Fiamē Naomi Mata’afa in Wellington, today. The Prime Ministers reflected on the close and enduring relationship the two countries have shared in the 60 years since the signing of the Treaty of Friendship, and since Samoa ...
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  • Govt acting to increase supermarket competition
    “Food price data shows New Zealanders pay too much for the basics and today’s figures provide more evidence of why we need to change the supermarket industry, and fast," Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister David Clark says. Stats NZ figures show food prices were 6.8% higher in May 2022 compared ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New standalone integrity entity for sport
    An independent body to strengthen and protect the integrity of the sport and recreation system is to be established. “There have been a number of reports over the years into various sports where the athletes, from elite level to grassroots, have been let down by the system in one way ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • New baby unit opened at Waitakere Hospital
    Parents of babies needing special care can now stay overnight at Waitakere Hospital, thanks to a new Special Care Baby Unit (SCBU), Health Minister Andrew Little said today. The new SCBU, which can care for 18 babies at a time and includes dedicated facilities for parents, was opened today by ...
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