Nat Vote: And the Loser Is ….

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The race to be the person blamed for National’s coming electoral thrashing is nearing a close.

The job of temporary leader of the Tories until Christopher Luxon takes over is a vital part of NZ’s democratic processes. Probably.

Simon Bridges has the significant advantage of being well known. Sadly, that’s also a significant disadvantage. NZ has seen a lot of Simon and it doesn’t like what it’s seen one little bit.

His opponent, OK Boomer, appears to be a bland white man in a suit.

There are also two candidates for deputy, Paula Benefit and Nikki Kaye.

Remarkably, that’s an even duller contest.

 

Updates when the grey smoke goes up the Tory chimney. If I wake up in time.

Update:  Newshub is saying Muller has prevailed …

Update: Paula Bennett has been chucked as well. Worth remembering that she was their campaign manager.

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  1. Cinny 1
    22 May 2020 at 12:11 pm

    What I find interesting is, a quarter of the nat MP's are not seeking re-election, so have nothing to lose when casting their vote.

  2. Sacha 2
    22 May 2020 at 12:26 pm

    My question about the publishing date answered..

    https://twitter.com/henrycooke/status/1263619149214806016

  3. Byd0nz 3
    22 May 2020 at 12:31 pm

    Who cares who leads the John Key facist

    Party. Yawn

    • weka 3.1
      22 May 2020 at 12:43 pm

      always appreciate a bit of poetry at times like this.

    • Chris 3.2
      22 May 2020 at 2:09 pm

      We should care because if Muller is able to get the numbers up Labour may be guaranteed another three years instead of six. And if it increases Labour's need for a coalition partner?

      TPK says Muller "appears to be a bland white man in a suit." So what? And what does that mean? If he lifts his party out of a landslide loss his job will be done and there will be consequences for the left.

      • observer 3.2.1
        22 May 2020 at 3:33 pm

        We care, and pretending we don't is like a teenager saying "see if I care!" and stomping off. Protesting too much.

        • Chris 3.2.1.1
          22 May 2020 at 4:25 pm

          All of this gloating is so hollow when the boot's so easily on the other foot, especially when the prevailing perception is that the nats will be better at sorting the economy out.

      • Michael Blaxall 3.2.2
        22 May 2020 at 3:39 pm

        So is James Shaw and why does it matter what your skin colour is

        • weka 3.2.2.1
          22 May 2020 at 6:18 pm

          The difference is that Shaw is in a party that tries to ensure diversity that reflects the electorate. National don't.

          Skin colour matters when one is brown in a country with far too much tolerance for racism.

          • df 3.2.2.1.1
            22 May 2020 at 9:11 pm

            "Tries" to ensure. Show the result. Great intentions and words won't help those of us struggling. We need to deliver tangible results for people.

  4. Cinny 4
    22 May 2020 at 12:48 pm

    Results are in…. muller is now leader of the nat's

    Deputy count is happening right now.

  5. KJT 5
    22 May 2020 at 12:52 pm

    Their tanking has little to do with Bridges. The public has had an opportunity to see what politicians are really about, without the spin filter of right wing media. National's lack of depth and competence has become obvious.

    • Stunned Mullet 5.1
      22 May 2020 at 2:04 pm

      National's lack of depth and competence has become obvious.

      I think that's been quite obvious for a while now and it mirrors the lack of depth and competence on the government benches.

      We comparing the current crop of MPs at the senior levels with those during the Clarke and Key governments I find the current lot left wanting. .

    • df 5.2
      22 May 2020 at 9:17 pm

      It's all about Bridges. We'll see that soon. Write it down.

  6. Chris 6
    22 May 2020 at 12:57 pm

    "The Nation holds its breath as the dullest political leadership race in a generation snores to a close. Who will win by losing? Who will lose by winning? Who cares?"

    I think many on the left will care and if they don't they should. If Muller can prevent a landslide then that's definitely something to care about.

  7. Psycho Milt 7
    22 May 2020 at 12:57 pm

    His opponent, OK Boomer…

    I'd forgotten that one! That is totally going to be the name I use for him from now on.

  8. Psycho Milt 8
    22 May 2020 at 12:59 pm

    …appears to be a bland white man in a suit.

    That's just the surface appearance. When you look deeper, it turns out he's a Bay of Plenty-based Christian conservative – what a compelling contrast he'd make to Simon Bridges, a… er… Bay of Plenty-based Christian conservative….

    • AB 8.1
      22 May 2020 at 1:12 pm

      But is he just John the Baptist to the Messiah Luxon?

    • patricia 8.2
      22 May 2020 at 2:01 pm

      Yes still the same conservative religious mind set from the Bay of Plenty. Some of the lost support will return, because of the change, and women will feel more inclined to vote for Nikky perhaps.

      Todd has to be strategic, as he hardly has a profile or charisma. Nikky also has a lack of sparkle to overcome.

      They will be given air time of course

      • Jilly Bee 8.2.1
        22 May 2020 at 7:29 pm

        I really prefer to have an agnostic such as Helen Clark, John Key or Jacinda Ardern (a fairly recent convert) as leader of a political party – and I say that as a (bit of a struggling) Christian – the overt fundamental beliefs no longer resonate with the majority of the population at large. The latest census has put paid to that – my Christian friends (who include several clergy) have no truck with what the fundamental rump of the National Party are eschewing in any way. The new leader of the National Party won't be resonating or connecting with me at all.

    • RosieLee 8.3
      22 May 2020 at 3:21 pm

      Scaaaaaaary..

      Scary!

  9. lprent 9
    22 May 2020 at 1:03 pm

    Ok, so Todd Who? won.

    • Chris 9.1
      22 May 2020 at 3:53 pm

      He won't be todd who if he keeps a whole bunch of nats in Parliament and puts Labour back to needing a coalition partner.

    • rod 9.2
      22 May 2020 at 4:32 pm

      So are we going to find out who voted for who, or is it non transparent and secret ?

      • NZJester 9.2.1
        23 May 2020 at 1:30 am

        I'm sure if you watch who gets the front benches and who ends up in the back you will be able to tell who voted for him and who didn't. Also when he is walking down the hallways there will likely be a possy of those that voted for him trying to elicit favors so you can get a better picture.

        I'm using the slang term Possy rather than the proper spelling of Posse as the definition for slang spelling of the word fits them better.

  10. RedBaronCV 10
    22 May 2020 at 1:04 pm

    The stuff photo didn't show social distancing going into the room

  11. Cinny 11
    22 May 2020 at 1:10 pm

    Deputy Leader….. is now nikki kaye.

    Will simon and paula seek re-election?

    See ya later paula!!! hahaha

  12. mickysavage 12
    22 May 2020 at 1:10 pm

    The news was leaked … National's caucus cannot be a happy right place right now.

  13. Ffloyd 13
    22 May 2020 at 1:11 pm

    Even better news. Bennett has gone.

  14. RedBaronCV 14
    22 May 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Paula has gone …… Be still my beating heart – champagne for lunch.

    Just hearing Tovea's opinion – leaders of a whole new look National party.

    Really? Unless the rest of the caucus have had a personality transplant – it's just a new smiley face on the front of the bus but the same dodgy old crowd riding inside.

  15. Treetop 15
    22 May 2020 at 1:14 pm

    See how Muller performs, then I will have something to compare him to Bridges with. Same with Kaye and Bennett.

    • McFlock 15.1
      22 May 2020 at 1:27 pm

      the funny thing is that I have no idea what the dude is like. At all. They chose a blank slate.

      This might help them, but it makes the net couple of weeks so critical for him. A flub in that timeframe will be difficult to come back from.

  16. roy cartland 16
    22 May 2020 at 1:25 pm

    Let the puns begin…

    Si-o-nara? Simon doesn't say? Funny, I can't even remember his last name now…

  17. AB 17
    22 May 2020 at 1:30 pm

    I'd pick a quick 8% bounce for the Nats (to 37-38%) on this change. Nat voters will on the whole be more comfortable with this pair because they just look and sound more like the party members and supporters. Muller will sound like a fairly coherent reasonable guy whose CV plays into the myth of Nat economic competence. Kaye as we know combines liberal attitudes on matters of identity with a more hard-line economic ideology.

    • lprent 17.1
      22 May 2020 at 2:10 pm

      It'd be highly unusual for a post leadership bounce to be that high.

      More like 5-6% innthe honeymoon. Problem for Todd Who? is that no-one knows who in the hell he is. That makes it hard to get a large bounce.

      He also hasn't been in the spotlight with the media sighting on him before. It will be hard. I suspect that he isn't a natural dealing with it like Jacinda proved to be.

      In a lot of ways they almost needed to revise the leadership positions.

      But I guess that Todd Who is better to clawing back the National base – outside of the kiwiblog idiots..

    • observer 17.2
      22 May 2020 at 3:24 pm

      I agree. There aren't many public polls these days so it could be a while before we see one. But it will change the narrative, which is National's first goal.

      On the plus side, it should put an end to the kind of premature triumphalism that some here have fallen into. National's best chance of winning is Labour (or "left") voters thinking the election is already won.

      It certainly isn't.

      • Obtrectator 17.2.1
        22 May 2020 at 11:35 pm

        "There aren't many public polls these days … "

        Could be remembering wrong, but my impression was that they were a lot more frequent when Labour wasn't doing very well.

        " … the kind of premature triumphalism that some here have fallen into … "

        YES! To be avoided at all costs. All it would take would be a spike in the Nats' poll results plus even worse news than expected on the economic front (and maybe a flub by some minister or other), and the other lot could easily sneak back in.

    • Gabby 17.3
      22 May 2020 at 5:29 pm

      Look, Munter's going to bang on about family. Look, he's got a vision and a plan, look, not sure what it is yet. Look, he ran businesses not into the ground so he ought to be managing the country. Look.

  18. Barfly 18
    22 May 2020 at 1:30 pm

    Bennett is list only now isn't she?….be so sad if she was too low on the list to get back in wouldn't it devil

    • Muttonbird 18.1
      22 May 2020 at 1:35 pm

      With any luck, Toddy is going to make sure she's a looong way down.

      He won't though.

      She'll probably turn up Minister for Social Development in 2029 and will take out her frustrations on beneficiaries.

      • Chris 18.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 5:59 pm

        Even if she's low on the list she'll still take the punt. She won't want to walk away. She loves the limelight too much. Being in opposition will be good enough for her. She'll also be thinking that her time still might come. I hope she stays. The weaker the nats are the better.

    • Nick 18.2
      22 May 2020 at 1:35 pm

      That would be an excellent outcome for such a horrible woman.

    • patricia 18.3
      22 May 2020 at 1:47 pm

      I'll drink to that!!

    • Wensleydale 18.4
      22 May 2020 at 3:50 pm

      She might have to go back on the benefit, you reckon? I wonder if she’ll get that Training Incentive Allowance.

  19. RedLogix 19
    22 May 2020 at 1:30 pm

    This is good for NZ politics. Bridges disqualified himself from any senior role with that pathetic 'Budget Leak' stunt, which only demonstrated, extraordinarily for a lawyer, that he could not be trusted with confidential documents. He's never done anything to redeem himself since, and all the grown ups in the room knew he had to go.

    Muller on the other hand looks like he's done the loyal party thing and stepped up to take the hit of an unwinnable election. He'll get credit for that, and will either survive or thrive in the role. He's done himself no harm yet.

    Nikki Kay is the only MP they have who is capable of taking on Ardern. Watch this space.

    • ianmac 19.1
      22 May 2020 at 1:39 pm

      "Nikki Kay is the only MP they have who is capable of taking on Ardern."

      The only time I have seen Nikki in action was when she was asking her questions in the House. She seemed diffident, and unable to adjust her question to suit the previous answer. And looking puzzled when asked by the Speaker to ask her question properly. So I thought as a front person she looked very pale against Jacinda.

      • Muttonbird 19.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 1:41 pm

        She appears to suffer from the same issue Bridges does – too wound up and unable to relax.

      • RedLogix 19.1.2
        22 May 2020 at 2:01 pm

        I agree Ardern is a lot more authentic and accomplished at this point in time. She's grown into the role remarkably well.

        But so could Kay, which is why I find picking her as Deputy is the mildly interesting aspect to this. They may as well give her a shot, they have little else to lose.

    • Obtrectator 19.2
      22 May 2020 at 11:37 pm

      I don't agree that the election is "unwinnable" by the Nats.

      • RedLogix 19.2.1
        23 May 2020 at 12:46 am

        Fair point, Labour would be stupid to be complacent about it. But from the polling position as of yesterday it looked a tough call for National, and certainly Judith Collins (plus any number of other more senior Nat MP's) decided it wasn't worth the candle.

  20. Robert Guyton 20
    22 May 2020 at 1:33 pm

    "The few MPs who did publicly back a team this morning are Maggie Barry for Todd Muller (although she said Todd Barclay) "

  21. Red Blooded One 21
    22 May 2020 at 1:34 pm

    How frightening for Labour, National have now elected a Farming Conservative christian as leader, because those groups have been really swinging behind that stupid little burqa wearing girl, Cindy, the Pretty Communist, in the last three years. /sarc

    • Drowsy M. Kram 21.1
      22 May 2020 at 3:27 pm

      This morning on RNZ:

      He [former National Party MP for Tauranga Bob Clarkson] said if Bridges or Muller got the same amount of publicity as "the communist leader" Jacinda Ardern, they too would be just as "popular".
      https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/417251/weighing-the-odds-simon-bridges-v-todd-muller

      Bob left out "pretty" laugh Labour's safe while National party supporters continue to harbour an irrational hatred of PM Ardern – fortunately some Nats don't get that, yet.

      • Peter 21.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 3:37 pm

        When I heard Clarkson's 'communist' jibe I thought it was unfair to have dragged him out of whichever ward he was in.

      • Gabby 21.1.2
        22 May 2020 at 5:32 pm

        He was let away with it too, I assume on the grounds of incipient dementia.

  22. Muttonbird 22
    22 May 2020 at 1:39 pm

    Farrar watch:

    David has posted commiserations for Simon Bridges. Full of 'media's fault' resentment, 'nearly there' praise and 'if only it wasn't for Covid 19' delusion.

    Can't help think David doesn't get it either.

    • Treetop 22.1
      22 May 2020 at 1:49 pm

      What will the relationship be like with Muller and Farrar?

      Muller strikes me as being unassuming and plays his cards close to his chest. Also that he has a plan up his sleeve.

      • Anne 22.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 5:31 pm

        Oh he has a plan alright. He was out clocking up the kilometres big time over the lockdown period. Likely on a charm offensive in preparation for the leadership challenge which was obviously planned some time ago. Just waiting for the public pollsters to verify their internal polling?

        Everything National does is predetermined.

    • James B 22.2
      22 May 2020 at 2:00 pm

      Ummm.. Mutton Brain.. you need some glasses, or you need to take off your eye patch, go have another read you vile person… sigh but its just your way…your comments are always really aweful…

      [Tempted to bin this abusive comment. However as it makes its author look particularly unhinged, I’ll just leave it as is. TRP]

  23. Incognito 23
    22 May 2020 at 1:40 pm

    I love the photo of that farmer looking up at the sky and pondering CC. Maybe it is time to switch party vote because National sure ain’t doing it for CC.

  24. observer 24
    22 May 2020 at 1:41 pm

    Muller will hold press conference at 2.15.

    I'll believe he might be a different kind of Nat leader if he …

    1) Provides the vote numbers. This happens in almost every party in every democracy. Join this century, National.

    2) Acknowledges PM without patronising, begrudging. A straight "Thank you" would boost his prospects overnight. National voters are saying it, so he should too.

    3) Doesn't do the weasel words about the guy he overthrew. There's a reason you wanted him out, and it's not because "Simon did a fantastic job yadda yadda …".

    We'll see shortly.

    • observer 24.1
      22 May 2020 at 3:29 pm

      He didn't do those things. Not surprising.

      But he handled the press well, without antagonism. With Bridges you always felt he was spoiling for a bit of verbals. Miller has a lighter touch and that will go down better with the voters.

  25. Macro 25
    22 May 2020 at 1:49 pm

    Typical National. Only concerned about their political future. Now if they had really been concerned about the future of the country, Simon and Paula would still be there demonstrating the true heart of the party.

    • Treetop 25.1
      22 May 2020 at 1:58 pm

      I think the true heart of the party has been demonstrated today. If a few jobs can be saved in the National caucus the blood letting would have been worth it to a few of them who get back.

  26. Philg 26
    22 May 2020 at 1:53 pm

    And the loser is …

    Same old ..

    The PUBLIC of NZ …

    and those folk waiting for 10 bridges …

    • left_forward 26.1
      22 May 2020 at 2:03 pm

      Good point Philg, what about Northland's Bridges now?

      Our last hope has gone – nobody cares anymore!

  27. Fireblade 27
    22 May 2020 at 2:03 pm

    Winston Peters always said that Simon would never be Prime Minister. He was correct.

    Will Todd Muller rule out a coalition with Winston?

    • Muttonbird 27.1
      22 May 2020 at 2:33 pm

      This will be interesting. You can be sure Winston is quite capable of switching sides without a care. He'll just claim handbrake status on National rather than Labour.

      The Nats will not want to be giving NZF any concessions though so will Winston begin to undermine the Prime Minister in the next three months?

      • df 27.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 9:30 pm

        Concessions…so innocent and polite. They aren't concessions. They are the price paid for power.

    • observer 27.2
      22 May 2020 at 3:40 pm

      " Will Todd Muller rule out a coalition with Winston?"

      He was asked to in the press conference – many times. He refused to.

      On the news tonight, that will be a headline. Maybe not the one he wanted.

  28. woodart 28
    22 May 2020 at 2:03 pm

    how much money will todd who bring to the party? can see beijing office being annoyed that the paper bags of cash wernt rewarded.

  29. Andre 29
    22 May 2020 at 2:07 pm

    So now Simon gets to join Jim McLay as the only members of the rarefied club of "National's leaders that got rolled before ever getting to fight a general election".

  30. Cinny 30
    22 May 2020 at 2:20 pm

    paul goldsmith is looking particularly uncomfortable at the presser, JS.

    Edit… he’s just been re-assured he’s safe.

    muller proudly speaks of being a catholic…

  31. mac1 31
    22 May 2020 at 2:24 pm

    Same old stigmatising stereotyping.

    Talking of familial disputes, Muller referred to "my wife and I's two red-head daughters".

    Redheads are stroppy, huh?

    He will have not got my daughter's vote with that crack!

    • Brigid 31.1
      22 May 2020 at 6:12 pm

      " I's two red-head daughters"

      Hilarious

      What a completely ignorant tosser.

      • In Vino 31.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 9:51 pm

        This is the distressing thing: no matter what the (fictitious?) vaunted qualifications of national leaders. they all seem semi-articulate, and mangle the English language. Bridges was supposedly a highly qualified lawyer. Bill English was supposedly an English Major graduate. Key was good at smarmy.

        Even if Jacinda affects a maybe slightly strong Kiwi accent – or maybe not – she is the only speaker I find easy to listen to with consistent, fluent coherence since David Lange.

        Todd's "my wife and I's two red-head daughters" does not augur well. Somebody needs to inform him that we say, "I spy with my little eye," not, "I spy with I's little eye."

        I was dreading having to listen to Simon's mangled English for a whole campaign. Just to lower my blood pressure, I hope that Todd can do better. If not, Jacinda will run rings around him even more easily than I want her to.

        • gsays 31.1.1.1
          22 May 2020 at 10:08 pm

          I must be getting a touch of the curmudgeons… I do wish the PM would pronounce the 't's in community and immunity.

  32. The Al1en 32
    22 May 2020 at 2:29 pm

    "I expect to be prime minister after the election"

    I expect you not to be party leader within a month after it.

    • observer 32.1
      22 May 2020 at 3:37 pm

      That was the weakest part of his speech. It reinforces the perception that the voters are seen as just an unfortunate obstacle to National holding power, as is their rightful place.

      Needs to work on faking humility.

    • Incognito 32.2
      22 May 2020 at 10:02 pm

      I see, he’s in it for the long haul.

  33. Muttonbird 33
    22 May 2020 at 2:29 pm

    (Muller) says he has a lot of business experience but that is not what "drives him."

    He says what drives him is "community."

    Great. He'll be putting a stop to property speculation and AirBnb then…

    • In Vino 33.1
      22 May 2020 at 10:01 pm

      Community?? Does he not understand that 'Community' is closely related to that dreadful word, 'Communist' ??

      I suspect he has that hopeless gap that right-wingers have developed when it comes to linking an economy to the more important, over-riding society as a whole. They like to pretend that the economy is paramount, and that society will never be right until they have been able to perfect their economy. (By which time all wealth and resources will have been pillaged away by the greedy.)

    • Treetop 33.2
      23 May 2020 at 8:25 am

      Does Muller mean business community?

      And not

      Everyone community?

  34. Anker 34
    22 May 2020 at 2:30 pm

    Ok just listened to Todd talking and I have to admit he’s good

    glad Bennett has gone. Nasty piece of work. I think it’s game on

    • Muttonbird 34.1
      22 May 2020 at 4:48 pm

      He was good but a little dismissive at times I thought. Won't take long for him to lose his rag with reporters.

      • In Vino 34.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 10:03 pm

        But he is not left wing… may he not get quite an easy ride from our vigilant savages of the media?

  35. roblogic 35
    22 May 2020 at 2:49 pm

    I'd prefer Todd Blackadder. I hope that Todd Muller is nothing like Todd Barclay or (God forbid) Todd Bentley.

  36. ianmac 36
    22 May 2020 at 2:52 pm

    Yes. He can handle the Press and answer their questions quite well. Stolid. But nothing yet on the actual vision other than saying the Government is too weak and incompetent to handle the post Covid 19 recovery.

    Interesting to see the support crew surrounding him at the lectern. Only Nicki could be regarded as liberal at all. The rest Conservative and status quo types. Be interesting to see what they propose to be judged fresh and innovative.

  37. WeTheBleeple 37
    22 May 2020 at 3:03 pm

    There's a photo circulating of Muller with a sideboard holding a few of his caps – one is red – USA, another red – MAGA…. but I can't post a photo here. I'm sure another subscriber will find it and bring it to the blogs attention.

  38. Peter 38
    22 May 2020 at 3:43 pm

    Handy handle he's got.

    I'll look on the news tonight to see the street interviews. I'll be waiting for someone on being asked "Who is the National Party leader?" says …. "That Muller fulla."

    If he turns out to be as boring as he's been portrayed his speeches are likely to be called 'Mullerbies.'

  39. Adrian 39
    22 May 2020 at 3:56 pm

    I've listened to some losing post match speakers in rugby clubs across the country and even from those who didn't pay much attention in school, none have been so appalling as bad as Bridges cliché ridden, bumbling, pathetic effort after the loss, and I have never heard a captain say the other side was only a winner because his team had made them play better.

  40. Anker 40
    22 May 2020 at 4:16 pm

    Blow just wrote a big piece that didn’t save! Never mind..

    rather than Todd who should be Todd Trump supporter

  41. rod 41
    22 May 2020 at 4:21 pm

    Evidently, Todd loves American politics and went to states to help Trump get elected, read it somewhere, so there ya go.surprise

  42. Anker 42
    22 May 2020 at 4:34 pm

    Omg. If he did try and get Trump elected that needs to come out. I am scared now.

    think his points “ I care about your economy”. And I was the one who worked with Shaw on the climate change bill easily disputed

    • RedBaronCV 42.1
      22 May 2020 at 5:07 pm

      A trump believer – that is unusual and scary for the country. Hope the news media fill out the details in the interviews. Once that gets around I can see any bounce being pretty limited. And I bet Winston will be onto it to marginalise Nact voters and drive them his way.

      Plus trying to pretend he's James Shaw's best climate change friend.

      I’m gunna miss Si – a useful and entertaining idiot

    • Wayne 42.2
      22 May 2020 at 5:55 pm

      James Shaw won't be able to dispute the Todd worked with him. Because he knows it is true. Todd got National across the line to support the Carbon Zero Bill. Shaw made a few concessions to make that possible. Shaw knew that a Bill like that needed broad support. Being a Bill that has to last decades, it needs to be able to survive changes of governments.

      Same as my 90 day Bill. The reason why it was 90 days and not 180 days or 1 year is that I knew it needed to be moderate enough to survive changes of government. And basically it has.

      New Zealand won’t care he has a MAGA hat. It is just the fluff of politics

      • Dennis Frank 42.2.1
        22 May 2020 at 6:19 pm

        BFD commentators seem rather hostile to the outcome (were hostile to the prior Nat leadership team too): "They are nothing but blue.green socialists."

        All gonna vote for Disco Dave, apparently, though the bugger has gone & got the '70s retro look cut off, dammit. Same with Bishop, whose mullet had considerable flair.

      • Brigid 42.2.2
        22 May 2020 at 6:20 pm

        Your 90 day bill is an abomination.

        • Wayne 42.2.2.1
          23 May 2020 at 6:58 am

          You might think that, but it remain the law of the land, albeit now limited to SME's. It is the most moderate act of its type in the developed world.

      • anker 42.2.3
        22 May 2020 at 6:43 pm

        Hi Wayne, MAGA hat is a little bit of a distortion on your behalf. It was TRumps campaign slogan and Trumps supporters wore this hat. ……I have heard but I don't know if its true that Muller worked on the Trump campaign.

        The hat displayed in a prominent position says it all. I have a Jacinda Ardern tee shirt. You have to be a real supporter to have and display the paraphenalia. I think NZders need to know whether or not Muller worked to get Trump elected and he needs to be confronted on the hat…….

        His endorsement of Trump suggests a very different picture that "I care about your economy"…………

        The majority of NZders do not support Trump and given his shocking performance "leading" the US response to Covid they would feel very bothered by someone who supports/supported Trump . It shows very poor judgement and speaks volumes about where Muller's true political heart lies.

        • RedBaronCV 42.2.3.1
          22 May 2020 at 6:46 pm

          +1

        • Wayne 42.2.3.2
          23 May 2020 at 6:55 am

          He won't have worked on the Trump campaign, given that at the time he was an MP. But it is normal for National MP's to be invited by the Republican Party to visit their campaign operation. It happens every Presidential election. Much like the Dems do for Labour.

          Usually the MP's who go are the up and comers. The hat shows that he is in the band of up and comers, not that he is a Trump fan. I have Bush Cheney Buttons, but I was never a fan.

        • Sacha 42.2.3.3
          23 May 2020 at 7:35 am

          You have to be a real supporter to have and display the paraphenalia.

          Or a politics nerd will do.

      • Anne 42.2.4
        22 May 2020 at 6:50 pm

        Having a MAGA hat might be "fluff" Wayne but it is what lies behind it that is concerning.

        It suggests a man of questionable judgement who is blind and deaf to the obnoxiousness of “President Trump” and the damage he is doing to his own country as well as the rest of the western world at the least. I'm sure he would say that he doesn't agree with everything Trump does and says, but why display his MAGA cap as if its some kind of prized possession.

        • Obtrectator 42.2.4.1
          23 May 2020 at 10:11 am

          Has everyone forgotten already that MAGA has been given a local meaning? Think back a few weeks to that reactionary bloke in Marlborough who was seen sporting one on TV.

      • Grafton Gully 42.2.5
        22 May 2020 at 8:37 pm

        I care because our future lies closer to home. USA has historically taken more from NZ than their people have returned – occupied during WW2 with a premium on wages paid to their own, Pacific nuclear testing, Viet Nam war, erosive opposition to our main trading partner. The Pasifika, Chinese and Indian people, our Phillipinos and other less numerous have given and give far more than the people who wear MAGA hats. The CZB is fine but where is the action to bring living wage employment to those who need it ? And by the way, no part of politics is fluff in my book. How much "fluff" did you condone in government.

  43. Tricledrown 43
    22 May 2020 at 4:37 pm

    Bennett gone as well great day in NZ politics.

    • Fireblade 43.1
      22 May 2020 at 5:15 pm

      Paula Benefit will bounce back. I'm sure WINZ will find her a nice truck stop waitressing job somewhere.

      • Jum 43.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 6:34 pm

        Sorry Fireblade, the taxpayer will be paying her parliamentary benefit and her plane expenses and, and, and.

  44. Dennis Frank 44
    22 May 2020 at 5:06 pm

    Hey the Wallace numpty who does the late afternoon RNZ slot said something interesting for a change. He told the audience Muller had said he didn't want to be oppositional. Great stance for the Leader of the Opposition eh?

    With such lateral thinking coming from such a conservative bloke there's hope for this country yet. Now I will watch to see if he's true to his word. If he does actually exhibit a more constructive style of leadership I may bump him up from 5 to 6.5 (Bridges was 2.5).

    • Tiger Mountain 44.1
      22 May 2020 at 5:23 pm

      Well Mr Muller has tried the passive aggressive wedge tactic already on news hub–praising the PM and dissing the rest of the Labour crew as not up to it.

    • observer 44.2
      22 May 2020 at 5:40 pm

      He doesn't want to be oppositional?

      So National MPs will delete their social media accounts? No more endorsing of Katie Hopkins, Trump supporters, alt-right websites, calling the PM a dictator, a part-time PM, and so on?

      Of course he won't be "true to his word". He'd have to sack half his caucus.

      • Descendant Of Smith 44.2.1
        22 May 2020 at 7:01 pm

        Well at 29% and dropping he could see the National Party as a future coalition partner.

        That would be aspirational.

    • Incognito 44.3
      22 May 2020 at 10:12 pm

      Muller said this:

      I'm not interested in Opposition for Opposition's sake. We're all tired of that kind of politics.

  46. bwaghorn 46
    22 May 2020 at 6:31 pm

    And the loser is?

    Probably both of them just 4 months apart

  47. pat 47
    22 May 2020 at 6:36 pm

    don't be too cocky…Muller is indeed very good…in fact its hard to believe Bridges ever got the job in the first place…however I doubt he can turn it around in 3-4 months given the positive impact Jacinda Ardern has made.

    • observer 47.1
      22 May 2020 at 6:55 pm

      Agreed. Bridges was a bumbling bonus for the government. It was fun while it lasted but it's over now.

      In 5 elections (2005-17) National won 3 and came very close in the other 2. They will do whatever it takes to win power, fight as dirty as they can get away with and anybody who thinks that Jacinda was EVER going to be allowed an easy re-election is a damn fool.

      • pat 47.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 7:16 pm

        He's good BECAUSE he won't fight dirty…hes a distinct move away from the Key sponsored dirty politics whereas Bridges with Bennet were not

        • observer 47.1.1.1
          22 May 2020 at 7:23 pm

          I think it'll be the old combo – high road (leader, visible) and low road (black ops, not visible). Bridges liked doing the dirty fighting himself. That's what turned voters off.

          Some of Muller's lines today were straight out of Key 2006, when he was the affable replacement for bad old Brash.

          Matthew Hooten is Muller's new adviser, appointed today. Enough said.

          • Ad 47.1.1.1.1
            22 May 2020 at 8:26 pm

            Hooten is an excellent choice and will be formidable against the Ardern office.

            Hooten is our keenest political observer right now because of the number and breadth of operations he’s run – including this one. As an operator, he wins by pressing his fingers right into the joints of the opponent and grinding deep into the gristle and sinew until they tap out.

            I for one hope Hooten gets to complete his Phd in politics though. It will be worth a read.

            I don't think Labour really get how brittle they are, with just one high performing leader. Ardern better not tire. And we better have a successor being groomed now or we will end we were in 1999.

            • RedBaronCV 47.1.1.1.1.1
              22 May 2020 at 11:16 pm

              I stumbled across a Redditt thread on a Hooten article in the NZHerald on Winston & China. Sheesh – large number of comments on Hooten and they were not polite. The best/ most polite of them wanted to know whether he had been paid and if so how much? The others were far less polite – is it possible that he will deal with the offshore funding aspects of the Nats? It's time for some better electorate funding rules -Labour would be a fool not to pass them.

          • pat 47.1.1.1.2
            22 May 2020 at 9:15 pm

            Agree about Hooton but not sure they'll go down that road will Muller….they'll press Labour for detail and attack the inevitable weak points…Nationals plan will have weak points as well but they will be glossed over because they'll favour business (as usual) and labour doesn't get benefit of the doubt or support of the business community in general….suspect Labour will seek to avoid too much detail as long as they can …and National will press the point as hard as they can.

            In that respect nothing has changed , just a better practitioner in Muller.

  48. Corey Humm 48
    22 May 2020 at 6:52 pm

    That speech was weird. He said economy like a dozen times in two minutes, then started talking about the economy of your rugby league team, the economy of your netball court and all this small town idealist crap. Does national think it needs to strengthen it's rural vote instead of the Urban vote? Bring it on lol. He's a non entity. They needed to get rid of Simon and they need to massively reshuffle some roles but will be interesting to see if there's disunity moving forward from different factions if people get demoted or looked over for jobs they were promised.

    Nationals gonna get a hiding this election, and this is no diss but if we have a huge caucus after election day moving forward I hope labour does some major reshuffles in cabinet, there's a lot of talent in Labours back bench from the class of 2017 who deserve leadership roles in the party since they are the future of the party. That's not a diss at anyone more that whenever it is we end up back in opposition it'd be good to have as many former ministers as possible but I just genuinely don’t see a lot of the current front bench sticking around for another period of opposition and I feel like we struggled to hit the ground running a bit this term due to a lack of experience in our team, Gradually of course but I’d genuinely like somewhat of a shake up next term.

    • pat 48.1
      22 May 2020 at 7:24 pm

      Not so weird….thats where they will attack Labour…..the lack of an outlined economic strategy…thats not to say they don't have one (or at least the general theme) but they have yet to present it.

  49. Fireblade 49
    22 May 2020 at 7:17 pm

    Thanks for the memories.

    Simon Bridges Eminem tribute

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJpY937m8Wk

  50. coge 50
    22 May 2020 at 7:29 pm

    I in no way endorse this appointment. Although I sense after the lengthy lockdown, and the unspoken trauma that brought to many, there is a desire for change. A fresh start, to put it all behind them. A natural and very human reaction. A preference for new faces, may well be part of that.

    • anker 50.1
      22 May 2020 at 8:11 pm

      Coge the last two polls out would completely refute your claim that people want change. They want more of Labour and Jacinda

      A new report out today saying the vast majority of people did well in lockdown.

      Far less trauma from lockdown than the US and UK where people are going back to work when the virus is still spreading

  51. David Mac 51
    22 May 2020 at 7:32 pm

    When KFC cut staff by 50% households have to rally to pay the rent.

    When Air NZ cut staff by 50% banks get homeowners handing back the keys.

    I think Muller is right to get stuck into an economic focus. I can't see how we can avoid a fast approaching money maelstrom. I don't think the guy has much of a PM chance but I think he might be barking up the right tree.

    Planting seeds of hope for the strife I see on the horizon.

    • McFlock 51.1
      22 May 2020 at 7:36 pm

      Most parties have a money focus.

      One of the first thing the government did with this thing was throw $5bill to keep jobs going while everyone was still crapping themselves about getting sick.

      However, when nats talk about the economy they tend to focus on GDP and the sharemarket, rather than actualy jobs directly.

      • David Mac 51.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 7:50 pm

        Yes, I agree McFlock. It's the challenge that will turn swing voters scarlet. Having handled the health challenge with aplomb, the fresh test will be managing the $.

        I agree with you because I think most of us would prefer to be teaching young people to build houses over propping up eg: Fletchers. Those huge companies get so heavy with people that don't know how a hammer works. The pointy end, the bit that actually makes the money.

        • David Mac 51.1.1.1
          22 May 2020 at 8:06 pm

          GOVERNMENT OFFERS BUILDING APPRENTICESHIPS TO JOBLESS FLETCHER EXECUTIVES

      • peterlepaysan 51.1.2
        22 May 2020 at 8:43 pm

        Exactly , people do not matter. Only money and greed.

        People do not matter.

        Economists, roger douglas, richard prebble, mike moore, prostituted to the almighty shareholders.

      • peterlepaysan 51.1.3
        22 May 2020 at 8:57 pm

        Covid -19, climate change, capitalism are not separate entities.

        Greed and capitalism together have wrecked this planet.

        I weep for th fenerations who will arrive.

      • Hokidokivodka 51.1.4
        22 May 2020 at 11:15 pm

        Remember what Peter Fraser said 'they walked to the polls to vote us in, they drove to the polls to vote us out'

    • aj 51.2
      22 May 2020 at 10:42 pm

      Let's be real about what will happen in the next 120 days. As the impact of economic decline hits New Zealanders more directly, National won't waste ANY opportunity to pile in and paint labour as poor economic managers. And the usual culprits in the media and in big business will be leading the charge and on the lookout to amplify every concern and hard done-by story they can find. National will not be planting seeds of hope, they will be sowing as much distrust as they possibly can and by whatever means. Anyone who thinks Muller means the end of Dirty Politics is dreaming.

  52. swordfish 52
    22 May 2020 at 8:04 pm

    Tauranga MP toppled by MP for Tauranga Suburbs.

    • David Mac 52.1
      22 May 2020 at 8:11 pm

      Bay of Plenty

      • swordfish 52.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 9:18 pm

        Twas my point, David. After significant boundary changes over recent decades, the Bay of Plenty seat is (to all intents & purposes) Tauranga Suburbs.

        Voters in Papamoa, Welcome Bay, Ohauiti, southern end of Mt Maunganui comprise vast majority of electorate.

        The City’s punching above its weight … first Peters, then Bridges, now Muller. It’s all getting a little incestuous.

        • David Mac 52.1.1.1
          22 May 2020 at 10:01 pm

          Tauranga and the Bay of Plenty is a beautiful part of NZ, so much water about and it's own bespoke sunny climate. It needs a promotion…The Bay of Too Much.

  53. adam 53
    22 May 2020 at 8:17 pm

    Beijing will be happy they got their man.

  54. Ad 54
    22 May 2020 at 8:18 pm

    Todd Muller has all to play for at 2023, because he can build on networks of power no one in the next Labour-led government has now or will have.

    Because he has been neck deep in Fonterra as Group Director Corporate Affairs, he will be able to properly unify the efforts of our largest private business with government and government policy. That is an MFAT-MBIE marriage made in heaven.

    As General Manager at Apata Ltd and at Zespri he has deep knowledge of exporting, export packaging and logistics, as well as our exposure to key Asian export markets. It also means he knows the NZTE networks really well.

    His master's degree in politics and history, as well as his research background for the Jim Bolger government, means he understands both our machinery of government and its consequences.

    As a previous Waikato University Councillor he understands the interests of universities, and understands our research institutions generally by being on the board of HortResearch – which is where all the new strands of Kiwifruit have been developed.

    More broadly he is expert in New Zealand agribusiness. Which for the next few years is where a lot of our wealth is going to come from.

    You have to go a long, long way down the Cabinet list before you find business experience other than running little welfare trusts or advocacy groups. Even less if NZFirst dies.

    Now, it's not as if there's too many votes in the agricultural sector for Labour or business generally for this government. Or wealthy people full stop.

    But it will be much harder for a Labour-led government to form a plan for the economy that pulls us out of this hole when Todd Muller proposes a different plan. Which won't matter in this coming election at all. They will lose.

    But it will matter by 2023.

    • David Mac 54.1
      22 May 2020 at 8:29 pm

      Geez, I thought I was blowing the guy's trumpet.

      Have the CCP given you money or are you Roman Catholic?

      Are you still a leftie?

      This guy is wired like all of them. He places $ before people.

      $ are important but people have to come first. That's why we're all digging Jacinda & Co.

      • weka 54.1.1
        22 May 2020 at 8:41 pm

        Ad is naming things the left needs to understand. It's not trumpet blowing unless that trumpet is a warning.

        Lots of people are grateful for how Labour handled covid, but I can totally see them shifting back to National in 2023 once the recession is biting. If people have to come first for NZ, how do you explain the past 30 years? There's an opportunity here for the left to build on what has happened in the past few months, that sense of working together and being a good country, probably shift the Overton Window too. But it will be work, not something we can just assume will stay because of these few short months.

        • David Mac 54.1.1.1
          22 May 2020 at 9:00 pm

          Yep, ok. I read back over the comment after reading yours.

          When I put my Sun Tzu hat on, 'know your enemy'. Ad's posts often sit better on a second reading. Ha, I like your comments Ad, they make me think more than I want to.

          I'm reluctant to acknowledge the fragility you point to but can't ignore it. We invested a large amount of effort into looking at the future of work in NZ. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that we have prepared well. Our investment into looking at the future of work in NZ should be very timely. Hopefully it will be.

          • Incognito 54.1.1.1.1
            22 May 2020 at 10:23 pm

            Ha, I like your comments Ad, they make me think more than I want to.

            QFT

            I'm reluctant to acknowledge the fragility you point to but can't ignore it.

            QFT

          • weka 54.1.1.1.2
            22 May 2020 at 11:35 pm

            Do you mean the Future of Work project from before the last election? How do you see that serving NZ now?

  55. David Mac 55
    22 May 2020 at 8:43 pm

    The Nats tickled along a stimulated economy by addressing labour shortages by bringing in people that were prepared to relinquish their passports and work 80 hours a week for $5 an hour. There is a shortage of Kiwis for jobs like that. It needed to be addressed.

    Hey presto! A housing shortage.

    I'm guilty, how my local superb Indian restaurant can supply me with a dine in feast for $22 I don't know….well I sort of do know. I'm part of the problem.

  56. JPWood 56
    22 May 2020 at 10:54 pm

    As a devout Catholic, Muller is off to an auspicious start by being elected on the Feast of Saint Rita (patron saint of impossible dreams).

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    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Sad tales from the left
    Michael Bassett writes –  Have you noticed the odd way in which the media are handling the government’s crackdown on surplus employees in the Public Service? Very few reporters mention the crazy way in which State Service numbers rocketed ahead by more than 16,000 during Labour’s six years, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • In Whose Best Interests?
    On The Spot: The question Q+A host, Jack Tame, put to the Workplace & Safety Minister, Act’s Brooke van Velden, was disarmingly simple: “Are income tax cuts right now in the best interests of lowering inflation?”JACK TAME has tested another MP on his Sunday morning current affairs show, Q+A. Minister for Workplace ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Don’t Question, Don’t Complain.
    It has to start somewhereIt has to start sometimeWhat better place than here?What better time than now?So it turns out that I owe you all an apology.It seems that all of the terrible things this government is doing, impacting the lives of many, aren’t necessarily ‘bad’ per se. Those things ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Auckland faces 25% water inflation shock
    Three Waters became a focus of anti-Government protests under Labour, but its dumping by the new Government hasn’t solved councils’ funding problems and will eventually hit the back pockets of everyone. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 8:06 am today are:The Government ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago

  • Small accomplishments and large ironies
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago

  • The Song of Saqua: Volume VII
    In order to catch up to the actual progress of the D&D campaign, I present you with another couple of sessions. These were actually held back to back, on a Monday and Tuesday evening. Session XV Alas, Goatslayer had another lycanthropic transformation… though this time, he ran off into the ...
    A Phuulish FellowBy strda221
    6 days ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    11 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    24 hours ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
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    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    3 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
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    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    4 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
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    4 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
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    4 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
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    4 days ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
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    7 days ago

  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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    7 days ago

  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
    The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
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    7 days ago

  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago

  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
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    7 days ago

  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for Winter
    Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced that Medsafe has approved 11 cold and flu medicines containing pseudoephedrine. Pharmaceutical suppliers have indicated they may be able to supply the first products in June. “This is much earlier than the original expectation of medicines being available by 2025. The Government recognised ...
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    7 days ago

  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
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    1 week ago

  • Joint US and NZ declaration
    April 11, 2024 Joint Declaration by United States Secretary of State the Honorable Antony J. Blinken and New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs the Right Honourable Winston Peters We met today in Washington, D.C. to recommit to the historic partnership between our two countries and the principles that underpin it—rule ...
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