National’s dodgy tax campaign

Written By: - Date published: 8:31 pm, September 20th, 2010 - 55 comments
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According to the ODT government MP’s are going to be travelling around the country trying to convince New Zealanders that their plan to cut taxes for the rich isn’t actually a plan to cut taxes for the rich at all.

Presumably they’re going to be travelling on the taxpayer’s dime to do so:

Mr Key said a family on the average income of $76,000 a year would be about $25 a week better off, even after the GST increase was factored in.

“Over the next fortnight, Government MPs will be out and about communicating the effects of the tax changes and you will hear more about that from us as October 1 approaches,” he said.

In fact the median income wage and salary income is just $46,000.

According to the government’s own calculator (which includes GST) that means a household on the median income will get just $10 a week extra. But that’s assuming a single earner household. Split that income into a minimum wage job and a part-time job and the net gain is more like $7 a week.

And when you split the $76 average Key is using into a couple of lower-middle class incomes his $25 gain starts to look more like $15.

Of course if you’re Paul Reynolds on $5m your gain looks more like $3,452 a week.

That’s $179,515.96 a year – four times the full median household income.

So there you go. The government is going to be using your taxes to travel around the county telling you why it’s a good idea for you to borrow a billion dollars so they can give a very small number of very rich people a very large amount of cash. And all while telling you to be thankful for your seven bucks.

This should be entertaining.

55 comments on “National’s dodgy tax campaign”

  1. Interesting 1

    I Agree with you that a person on the average wage of $45k will only be $10 better off. (i do stress better off).

    However you are not comparing apples with apples. Mr Key is correct about a FAMILY (or individual) on $76k getting $25.

    Just as you are right that an INDIVIDUAL (or Household) on $45k is only $10.

    So you are BOTH right in the calculations and situations that you use. they cannot be comapred to each other as one right and one wrong.

    They are two different scenarios.

    Still, even by your calculations, “Split that income into a minimum wage job and a part-time job and the net gain is more like $7 a week” which means it is still a GAIN.

    This does not help the “those on low incomes will be worse off” that Labour calims.

    I agree, it is sad that those on more, like Mr Reynolds get a grossly over the top amount of money in tax cuts than what people like me ( i am on a student allowance so get $0 gain i think).

    However the Nats claim that “most will be better off and no one will be worse off (me getting a net difference of $0, thus not been worse off)” appears to be roughly true.

    • Bunji 1.1

      Well that $7 gain is before any extra childcare costs, or any extra rent from your landlord passing his/her extra tax on, or the extra mortgage payments as interest rates rise from the inflationary budget… or for that matter the increased prices everywhere from the inflation of 6% that the budget is going to cause… so it won’t really be $7 better off at all…

    • Draco T Bastard 1.2

      People may be slightly better off after the tax cuts – if you don’t take into account everything else that the government has done to shift the tax burden on to the lower paid. Increased ACC, car/truck rego, and others that I can’t recall ATM.

    • bbfloyd 1.3

      WOW…… that’s interesting… interesting… even though i know that any cut i get is going to be swallowed up before christmas, i still agree it makes sound economic sense to borrow hundreds of million dollars every year so that more deserving people can have even more than they already have.

      what does it matter that most of that money won’t filter back through the economy.. they deserve it..

      so a few more, totally irrelevant, and obviously afflicted people end their lives than before.. so what if lazy, shiftless bludgers sleep by the hundred in our city parks.

      so what if families are driven apart as aside effect of extreme hardship. harden up …
      these people deserve our support, and if it costs only half a billion, then that’s a small price to pay.. well said interesting….. tally ho…

      • Tigger 1.3.1

        Ultimately people will decide if they ate worse or better off or they feel nothing has changed but they think others have suffered or benefitted. Then they’ll vote. PRing this is a waste of money and as the post notes that’s what the govt is doing.

  2. Lazy Susan 2

    Looks like Blinglish and ShonKey are panicking.

    The voters will be suspicious that National feels it needs to “sell” these tax cuts so it’s a gift for
    opposition parties.

    Forget about trying to focus on the difference between median and average income though as many people just don’t get that concept, valid though it is.

    Better to come up with some real world examples.real people with different circumstances e.g contrast the “tax cut” for a family where both adults are working low paid jobs with that for a family where one adult is in a well paid job.

    Got to have an alternative tax plan though – “we might drop gst on fruit and veges” doesn’t really cut it.

    • Loota 2.1

      Looks like Blinglish and ShonKey are panicking.

      The voters will be suspicious that National feels it needs to “sell” these tax cuts so it’s a gift for
      opposition parties.

      Yeah, this, also the 90 day right to fire, the aborted mining in National Parks plan, the $1.7B dollar speculator bail out, backing Rodney’s outstanding ethical judgement, undemocratic destruction of ECAN, Supercity dictatorships, and much more, is going to make 2011 a field day for the Opposition team.

      • come get some 2.1.1

        too bad the opposition sit on their stupid worthless asses and do shit fuck all

        captcha: hid, i love this

        • pollywog 2.1.1.1

          Now that the Goffinator’s chief ineffectual spin doctor has landed himself a sweet number as candidate for a safe seat, his replacement might show a bit of mongrel and up the level of rage and intensity Phil should be delivering in his soundbites.

          Hopefully Goff will ditch the silly walk now too.

          BTW who doesn’t think retailers will tag an extra lil’ price hike on top of the GST rise to cover admin costs of realigning pricing and accounting systems ?

          Just remember retailers, Key has warned you not to…otherwise he’ll also sit back on his 50 million dollar ass and do sweet F A.

          and yes… I Still reckon opposition parties should donate their taxcuts to charity or lose the moral highground from which to criticise from.

          • Lazy Susan 2.1.1.1.1

            BTW who doesn’t think retailers will tag an extra lil’ price hike on top of the GST rise to cover admin costs of realigning pricing and accounting systems ?

            Granny used the GST rise to try and slip through a change in my subscription arrangement. Had been getting one month free for an annual subscription i.e. pay for only 11 months on a 12 month subscription. Tried to quietly drop that when advising me of an increase due to GST rise.

            Have dropped subscription and will go online – at least when I read Fran O’Sullivan and John Roughan I now have the satisfaction of knowing I’m not paying their wages!

            • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1.1.1

              Well, technically, you still are as they’ll still get their revenue from advertising on their site.

    • Vicky32 2.2

      Was just watching TV3 a while back, with Fatty Garner indignating that Labour are WRONG, WRONG AND MORE WRONG, poor misunderstood NACT…
      TV3 disgust me!
      Deb

  3. MikeG 3

    and the “GST” increases have started already – when my wife questioned the price increase on an item recently she was told that it was because GST was going up!

  4. Red Rosa 4

    Its not just the National heavyweights who will be asked to explain this to the voters.

    Imagine being a middle of the road National MP with a slim majority. Someone asks you at a public meeting – “How much does YOUR family get out of this?”

    Your face goes red/white with panic. And you say – “Well, my $130k salary plus my wife’s say $70k thats $200k total, less extra GST..mmm..we’ll get tax cuts of about $4500 per year, between us…”

    Can’t you just hear the hush fall over the crowd? And the next question…..

  5. Carol 5

    What’s the point of going round telling everyone what they’ll get? Surely people will know whether they are better off or not, by how far their money goes?

    • Richard 5.1

      The point is to try to convince voters that they are better off despite the evidence of their pocket book.

      They are trying to fool the electorate, not inform it.

  6. re the ODT article – Key is a moron – since when is the average NZ family on $76K. The man needs to be ripped to shreds over that one.

    • Lanthanide 6.1

      And, taking the supposed “average family” on $76k, even fewer of them would be getting that $76k from a single wage earner, so the figure he is indicating is even more misleading.

    • Interesting 6.2

      Appleboy A visit to the Statistics NZ website will show you the following:

      Household income

      Average (mean) weekly household income from all sources was $1,459 in the June 2009
      quarter….

      SO if we times that by 52 weeks that equals…….$75868 (almost $76k)

      so Stats NZ would tend to agree with mr key.

      SO who needs ripping to shreads appleboy?

      • Zorr 6.2.1

        Lrn2statistics Interesting.

        Mean is not the same as median which is the term that people have been using. Mean is the middle ground if you total up all the incomes and divide by the number of earners. The median is what 50% of the population are on or below.

        • NickS 6.2.1.1

          This.

          Very high, or very low values will skew a mean, leading to divergence from the median value/bracket. Meaning that the mean becomes a somewhat useless sole indicator of the population* one is interested in. Especially if no-ones decided to give other population characteristics such as variance and quartiles…

          In this case, the distribution shape for NZ wages would probably be a bell curve with a very long tail out towards the very high incomes. Which depending on the values of the high wages involved would result in a mean that doesn’t correspond with the “hump” of the bell curve. Were the “average” NZ’er actually is.
          _________________
          *blame bio-stats…

      • bbfloyd 6.2.2

        getting better interesting… you almost fooled one person, i think. how much are they paying you to say this stuff? i’ll do it for $50 less.

        • Interesting 6.2.2.1

          Same old attack aye bbfloyd. I get paid by nobody.

          Why is it that when someone wants to talk about the facts, the automatic response of many is to claim that those wanting facts are “Paid” by someone.

          I am a student, getting the student allowance. i get no benefit out of the Nats tax cuts.

          But hey, if you want to spend your time accusing people (me) of being paid hacks for other parties just because the facts are inconvenient to you then fine.

          I am happy to debate the facts, and if i misrepresented the difference between “median” and “average” and that offends you then my apologies.

          If it is such a crime to defend anyone that isn’t left leaning in the interests of accuracy then fine, i will find another site where bloggers of all leanings can handle it.

  7. mcflock 7

    of course, as income inequality gets worse under these jerks then the median will move farther and farther below the “average” income, making the average less meaningful when talking about how we’re all supposed to be getting tax cuts.

  8. Irascible 8

    Whatever the increase it won’t buy me a block of cheese. A point used by Crosby-Key-Textor after the Cullen tax cuts.
    Shonkey tax cuts won’t help the NZ economy provide for the citizens.

    • Draco T Bastard 8.1

      That’s not what they’re supposed to do – they’re supposed to boost incomes for the rich.

      • mcflock 8.1.1

        … who might then provide a nice warm trickle onto the faces of the deserving poor, and expect thanks for it.

  9. jcuknz 9

    But guys and gals you have got to understand that the rich are hurting … what with school fees at private schools, the cost of new cars, hell man it is tough going with the mortgage of the ranch …
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/opinion/20krugman.html?th&emc=th

  10. jcuknz 10

    Sorry but what on earth are you all wailing about? The government has done its best, a good try in my opinion to cushion us from the inevitable increases caused by the dam fool policies of the last government with their pre-occupation with being the first in the world to shackle us with climate change taxes.
    It is nice to get a bit more but it is also ridiculous to expect tax cuts in the current ecconomic conditions.

    • IrishBill 10.1

      It is nice to get a bit more but it is also ridiculous to expect tax cuts in the current ecconomic conditions.

      So you’re saying the government should cancel the tax cuts for the rich? Good. I couldn’t agree more.

    • Chris 10.2

      What are you talking about? National had ample opportunity to ditch this carbon credit bullshit, but they supported it at every step. Get your damn facts straight.

    • bbfloyd 10.3

      jcuknz…. are you trying to undercut me for comedy’s job?

  11. jcuknz 11

    Probably the reason for the tour is the gross mis-information put out by the left about the tax changes as of October 1st …. really you can say you brought this waste of taxpapers funds on by your own actions.

  12. I helped pack down a trade show over the weekend and there were some not very happy show campers leaving afterwards. They looked like they’d just pissed a shitload of money up the wall for little or no return.

    I figure the penny’s dropped and all that middle class shit, middle class people make to sell to other middle class people to make them feel like they’re upper class is not moving like it used to.

    Hot tubs, garden furniture, quirky art pieces and flash home items, that sort of shit.

    Goes to show, no matter how far up the social ladder you think you are, in a depression, you’re really only one step away from the poor house.

    But seriously, no piddling taxcut is gonna make the upper classes trickle down their excess wealth to stimulate the retail sector…Blinglish is dreaming if he thinks he can sell us that shit !!!

    Funnily enough, i was helping a mate move flat in Welli last year and had to park in Gareth Morgan’s driveway. He was cool once i explained we wouldn’t be there for long so i asked him about the economy.

    He said things were gonna get a hell of a lot worse and i said ‘yeah at least for us at the bottom we got nothing to lose so less likely to suffer’

    He looked at me kinda weird but it stands to reason if you got nothing to lose you got everything to gain…doesn’t it ?

    Hmmmm…I bet there’s a brisk trade in home security going on at the mo.

    • Bored 12.1

      I figure the penny’s dropped and all that middle class shit, middle class people make to sell to other middle class people to make them feel like they’re upper class is not moving like it used to.
      Jeez I get sick of the grasping wannabee classes and their obsession with defining themselves by way of their possessions. I had some w**nker point out ot me the age of my fishing gear last year, I pointed ot the fish……

    • bbfloyd 12.2

      shame it seems to take our richer, and therefore superior brethren so long to figure anything out.

    • mcflock 12.3

      I figure the penny’s dropped and all that middle class shit, middle class people make to sell to other middle class people to make them feel like they’re upper class is not moving like it used to.

      most of the stores that have gone under on the main street seem to have been those “design/gift” type stores, overpriced crap that has no function and is made by third world labourers.

      And a couple of lingerie stores, which sadly suggests life is getting marginally less interesting…

  13. Keys argument that most people will be better off

    let’s see …let’s keep this simple

    If we gave 9 kids in the playground lunch break 20 cents and gave 1 kid $5.00 would we say
    ‘well most of the kids are better off’. And after that we also said hey you 9 kids..your lunch fees are going up 25 cents.

    I think even the kids would see through that one…and so will kiwis when it comes clearer that most have got nothing/worse off and a certain number have got a whole lot. paid for by…guess who.

    • Interesting 13.1

      do you have numbers (real facts not just made up ones) to back up that, by your “story” above, that 9 out of 10 people will be no better off?

      • Vicky32 13.1.1

        Take the man on the telly news the other night… His tax cut will be in the region of $14.00 a week, but the GST increase will mean that his real tax cut will go down to around $4.00. Then take people like me (on a benefit) who of course will not get a tax cut even though all benefits are taxed) – and yet who will have prices rising with GST. Some of the rightists (you among them, I believe) are or say they are, in receipt of a student allowance. No tax cut, just rising prices. (If you live with comfortably off parents of course, which is very likely – you won’t care at all about price rises, but students who are self supporting (as I was last year, my parents being long dead… when in receipt of a student allowance) will be amongst those worse off – considerably worse off given that student allowances and unemployment benefits are below $200.00 a week!
        Deb

        • Interesting 13.1.1.1

          Vicky32 you say:

          Some of the rightists (you among them, I believe) are or say they are, in receipt of a student allowance. No tax cut, just rising prices. (If you live with comfortably off parents of course, which is very likely – you won’t care at all about price rises, but students who are self supporting

          I say:

          NO i am not a “rightist”

          YES i am a student on a student allowance.

          NO i do NOT have well off parents – they struggled to make ends meet and still do. They do not give me any money etc as they cant afford it with their mortgage and other living expenses.

          NO i do NOT live with my parents

          My student allowance is above $200 a week as i am over 25.

          I have had to work HARD for all i have. I struggle to pay my bills (some strenching out over a few months sometimes)

          I DO care about those who are struggling.

          Your assumptions, based on my comments about wanting facts not lovely “stories” that have NO basis of evidence (eg 9 out of 10 will be worse off).

          People often use treasury figures as a way to attack this current government over things, so i feel i can rely on treasury figures to back up that most will be better off (figures mentioned yesterday)

          BUT since you will assume i am some right wing nut job because the truth is inconvenient to you so you attack me rather than the facts i will take it that you wont give a stuff about anything i have just said.

          YES things will be tough for some. But not 9 out of 10 as Appleboys post implies.

          • Vicky32 13.1.1.1.1

            “My student allowance is above $200 a week as i am over 25.”
            How the freak did you manage that? I am over 25, and have accomodation costs, dead parents, etc… Yet my student allowance last year was about $185.00 weekly… (pegged to the level of my UB apparently, or so StudyLink explained to me.)
            My son got $180.00 for his student allowance in 2007-8, and would have been toast, if he hadn’t been able to live with me – and I was working, as the company I worked for hadn’t crashed then.
            “BUT since you will assume i am some right wing nut job”
            Sadly, yes, I do assume that.
            “because the truth is inconvenient to you ”
            I think the truth is rather more inconvenient to you than it is to me. You seem to be living in some happy-clappy world where JonKey can say “everyone will be better off” and that somehow magically makes it so.
            People whinged hard-out about Cullen’s tax cuts “Not enough to buy a block of cheese” (true only if you like gold-plated cheese :D) but I assure you if I got $28 000 like the guy on TV, and ended up with about $4.50 a week better off, I shouldn’t even notice it. That’s what, a 2 litre bottle of the cheapest milk, and 80c towards a 1 stage bus fare.
            Deb

            • Interesting 13.1.1.1.1.1

              pass, as to how i get over 200 (this includes the accomodation thing)

              If you are to assume (Wrongly) that i am a right wing nut job, does that mean i can assume you are a deluded left lunatic? (Not that i think that myself, but i am just following your reasoning that because i support SOME of Jkey things, then you must be a Deluded Left Lunatic, because you support left leaning arguements and that is what some rightwingers call left wingers)

              I want to rise above labelling people in certain catergories as a means to attack a positon rather than dealing with the ISSUE.

              There are good things on both left AND right of politics.

              I voted NAT last year (for various reasons). But right now my vote is on the fence. Hence why i read this sight and other sights of both political sides.

              If i am to be labelled anything (which i dont want to be) i would say i am a CENTRE man. so call me a fence sitter if you like. In fact if it makes you feel better i can change my posting name to fence sitter?

              Both sides have some good and some bad policies. to write of a side because they are RIght or left and not even considering any of their ideas is stupid.

              Why do i say this?

              Because i agree with:

              * Labour’s Industrial Relations policy (When i was working i used to be in a union, i was a delegate, i actively recruited people, i was on the unions coouncil for my company, in fact i was on the national committee)

              * Labour’s (Potential) get rid of GST off fresh fruit and veges Policy

              * National’s “Benefit as a temp not permanant solution” Policy

              * Maori Party’s Whanau Ora Policy

              * Nationals policy of dropping taxes (although it should be better spread)

              * Progressive Party “Free children dental visits” policy

              * Greens Idea of looking after the environment

              * Nats Policy of limited government

              BUT there are other policies from each of the parties that i disagree with. Hence why i am sitting on the fence at the moment.

              However, the response that i get from people of a left persuasion that all people who support right leaning parties are all “Nut Jobs” does not encourage me to want to swing that way.

              Yes i know that the right people call lefties “Looney” hence why i am a fence sitter.

              I know that this frustrates many. But i believe that my vote, although it is only on, should not just go to a party for the sake of it.

              So i will conitnue to read this site and others of right and left and see where my vote goes at the election.

              However, if personal attacks are the norm on this site, then i will stop looking. Not because i cant hack it, but because it is childish and i cant be bothered with people who attack the messenger rather than the message with their personal insults. we are all grown ups i thought?

              Happy to debate the ISSUES/FACTS/STATEMENTS with anyone. but if it is a name calling, childish personal attacks, then forget it.

              By the way, i have NEVER implied or said that Jkey said ALL would be better off. I said that he said MOST would be better off.

              • Vicky32

                “I voted NAT last year (for various reasons). But right now my vote is on the fence. Hence why i read this sight (site, is what it should be – if you’re a student, you shouldn’t need a beneficiary to fix your spelling/grammar) and other sights (sites) of both political sides.”
                “* National’s “Benefit as a temp not permanant solution” Policy”
                All very well if the jobs exist – currently they don’t. Try being on a benefit before you pontificate!

              • Draco T Bastard

                National’s “Benefit as a temp not permanant solution” Policy

                And who ever said that the welfare benefits were ever supposed to be permanent?

                Nationals policy of dropping taxes (although it should be better spread)

                Is delusional as it cuts the social wage – the very reason for belonging to a society. And it’s not better spread because the Nacts wanted to give more of everyone else’s money to the rich. We know this because the rich are the only ones benefiting from their policies.

                Progressive Party “Free children dental visits” policy

                All health visits should be “free” as it cuts down on the long term costs of ill health.

                Nats Policy of limited government

                Th Nacts don’t want limited government – what they want is dictatorship. Proof – The canning of ECAN and the Gerry Brownlie Enabling Act.

                By the way, i have NEVER implied or said that Jkey said ALL would be better off. I said that he said MOST would be better off.

                He may have said that but it’s just not true. After all the Nacts other policies most people will be very much worse off.

  14. ianmac 14

    The trouble is that benefit is not clear-cut from the housekeeping point of view. As the main buyer, I cannot say that now my money goes further or not further. Petrol prices fluctuate. Fruit and Vegies fluctuate and so does Meat. So unless I kept all my dockets of everything I buy over a year or so and then compared apples with apples I simply cannot tell.

    However nor can “they” show convincingly that I am better off. Therefore the Government is vunerable to “impressions,” hence their perceived need for a Road Show.

  15. interesting….the point is very clear – most get nothing and the few get plenty.

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    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    2 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    3 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    5 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    6 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    7 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago

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