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Nats: anti-whalers’ lives forfeit on the altar of trade

Written By: - Date published: 9:04 am, January 8th, 2010 - 131 comments
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On Wednesday, Japanese whalers tried to murder five New Zealanders. There is no other way to put it. They ran down a ship many times smaller than theirs in the high seas. It is only luck that the ramming did not sink the Ady Gil. The lives of the crew of the Ady Gil were in great danger*.

The idea that the crew of the Ady Gil purposely got themselves hit by a ship so much bigger than their own in the frigid ships of the Southern Ocean is just ridiculous. That would have been tantamount to attempted suicide and is not backed by the evidence. It is a claim only being put up by people who disagree with the protesters and, for that reason, seem to think that the protesters’ lives are forfeit.

It’s quite clear that National simply doesn’t give a damn about protesters whose causes it doesn’t support. Their attitude is that the protesters should get what is coming to them. Incredibly, Murray McCully just said on the radio that if people try to kill New Zealanders on the high seas, the Government has no duty to try to prevent that. In essence, he said it’s the protesters fault for hassling the whalers.

What a pathetic, pathetic response. Taking the side of the big business whalers rather than the Kiwis they attacked. Worried more about trade relations than Kiwis’ lives. But, that’s this government for you. If you’re not a proponent of business interests, they don’t want to know you. They govern in the interests of the business elite and everyone else can get stuffed.

*Farrar’s comment that there was no danger because the protest vessel Shonan Maru was close by and able to rescue the Ady Gil’s crew if the boat sank would be laughable if it weren’t so stupid. I’d like to see that guy floating in the Southern Ocean waiting to be rescued and then say its no big deal to be overboard in the world’s most hostile ocean.

131 comments on “Nats: anti-whalers’ lives forfeit on the altar of trade”

  1. I was interested in the legal aspects of the collision and in my view the situation is crystal clear.

    Firstly there are two pieces of video of the collision, one from the Japanese ship and one from the Seashepherd.

    It seems clear to me that the Japanese boat was turning into the Ady Gil which was stationary until just before the collision where it starts to take evasive action. Video released by Sea Sheperd makes it even clearer.

    Clause 15 of the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea states:

    “When two power-driven vessels are crossing, the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way.”

    Ady Gil is on the starboard (right) of the Japanese boat. It should have been given the right of way even if it was moving. That it was not makes the case even clearer and McCully should grow a backbone and complain about the needless threat to kiwi lives.

    • vidiot 1.1

      So are you saying a Stationary boat has Starboard right of way ?

      Evasive action is to move forward (at speed) and in to the oncoming vessel ?

      The Ady Gil was not (despite claims to this) stationary, it was in gear and idling forward – you can clearly see the wake being washed off the back as it moves.

      It is also claimed that the Ady Gil was put in reverse, now that would really explain the sudden burst of speed & forward motion.

      captcha – bearings : yeah I guess they lost theirs.

      • mickysavage 1.1.1

        It is wonderful how words can be thrown at a situation in an attempt to create confusion. You should have another look at the videos.

        If you look at the Sea Shepherd video the Ady Gil was stationary pretty well all the way through and the Japanese ship turned into it.

        If it ws not stationary the Ady Gil then had the right of way. The Japanese ship had to be able to take evasive action if the Ady Gil moved on its current line and the Japanese ship did not.

        The wash is a red hearing. The boat throws out a huge amount of wake when under power, about 50 metres worth. The amount of wake was miniscule indicating that at best the boat was inching forward.

        So either it was moving and had the right of way or it was stationary and was run over. In either case the Japanese boat is clearly in the wrong.

        • vidiot 1.1.1.1

          So MS, was the SS boat that was shooting the footage stationary or was it under power ?

          a) it was under power

          Now depending on what direction the SS boat was moving, it is ‘possible’ that the movement of the filming boat, changes the angle of view of the boats being filmed, hence it could (not saying it did) show as the boat changing course.

          If the Ady Gil was ‘inching forward’ (there is no dispute that it wasn’t) it is not Stationary, so for the anti-whalers to claim vehemently that it was ‘Dead in the Water’, ‘Motionless’, etc is bollocks.

          They push the envelope too far (probably deliberately) and are now reaping the media attention.

          • mickysavage 1.1.1.1.1

            Vidiot (should I subtract the v?)

            So MS, was the SS boat that was shooting the footage stationary or was it under power ?

            a) it was under power

            There is no proof about what it was doing. If anything it was heading towards the AG but the angle remains the same. The Japanese boat clearly steers left.

            If the Ady Gil was ‘inching forward’ (there is no dispute that it wasn’t) it is not Stationary, so for the anti-whalers to claim vehemently that it was ‘Dead in the Water’, ‘Motionless’, etc is bollocks.

            So what? If it was stationary or inching forward it should not have been rammed.

            To clear matters up no doubt the Japanese boat can release its GPS data.

            What is the bet that it does not?

            • Swampy 1.1.1.1.1.1

              The Ady Gil sped up just before the collision, they were not able to turn fast enough so they ended up moving into the path of the whaler which had intended to pass very close to them.

          • grumpy 1.1.1.1.2

            If you read the account by the crew of the Ady Gil, they saw they were about to be rammed and tried to get the boat moving but too late. That is borne out by the videos.

            • Gosman 1.1.1.1.2.1

              Ummmmm…..

              How come they missed the fact that there was a rather large boat beering down upon them with a collision alarm blaring and water hoses on full until the last minute?

              Are the Anti-Whalers a bit thick? On second thought don’t answer that question.

              • grumpy

                Your comment supports the case that the Jap boat altered course to ram them. They probably expected the Japs just to go close to intimidate as they had been doing all day.
                Real Banzai guys eh?

              • Gosman

                How come they missed the fact that there was a rather large boat beering down upon them with a collision alarm blaring and water hoses on full until the last minute?

                Maybe they thought that even the Japanese whalers would not be so stupid as to deliberately ram them?

                Do you always think the victim is the one at fault because they did not do everything possible from being assaulted?

              • Gosman

                The Sea Shepherd people are on record as stating they believe in aggressive actions to achieve their goals. This includes breaking maritime law, which they have been filmed doing. Why should anyone take their whinging seriously when they come off worse after such an encounter?

              • It always amazes me that Wingnuts who jump up and down about the rule of law refuse to accept that legal protection should apply to left wing dissenters as well as to others including business interests and the ships of a nation clearly acting in breach of international obligations.

              • Draco T Bastard

                No Gosman, you are completely stupid and/or are trying to deliberately muddy the truth.

                The ship wasn’t bearing down on the Adi Gil until it changed direction to hit it.

              • Gosman

                If these protestors wish to protest in a manner which is consistent with maritime law then they deserve protection. However the Sea Shepherd organisation is on record that they do not think such laws apply to them when it comes to trying to push their cause. Hence they don’t deserve the same protection under that law. I certainly don’t support spending my tax money on sending a NZ Naval vessel down there to keep the peace.

              • infused

                “They probably expected the Japs just to go close to intimidate as they had been doing all day.”

                No, the anti whalers had been doing that all day. Many times, moving in front of the boat. This time, they were not so lucky.

              • roger nome

                i’m now convinced that all the right-wing trolls on this thread are of below average i.q. how’s that for a surprise?

                next thing you know, a drunk driver does a 180 degree turn, and runs over a bunch of left-leaning people, then the trolls slur “they shouldn’t have been there! they should have moved faster! they deserved to die, they’re left-wing”. so on and on the fascist morons go…

            • Swampy 1.1.1.1.2.2

              They should have been in reverse then. Looking at the footage from the whaler, they have gone straight forward and actually moved into the path of the ship whereas it might have missed them if they had stayed where they were. I’m guessing the Japanese have intended to pass very close, but they hadn’t picked that the Ady Gil is not keeping a lookout and ended up actually powering forwards in a panic making the collision inevitable.

              It is clear that just before the collision the Ady Gil had increased power considerably but was still going ahead, not turning, or barely turning, maybe their rudders are not effective at a slow speed as can happen depending on a ship’s design.

          • Swampy 1.1.1.1.3

            There is a relatively small change only in the angle of view of the Barker, which is a reasonably large ship, would have been a considerable distance off, and was probably not moving very fast anyway.

            Given this I consider the Japanese ship has turned towards the Ady Gil, for some reason the Ady Gil has turned in front of the whaler and has moved too close, perhaps they thought they would be able to cut in front in time.

            To suggest an 8000 ton ship can suddenly move off at high speed to take out the Ady Gil is nonsense, it takes time for any ship to accelerate. The Ady Gil can easily outrun/out manoevre an 8000 ton ship, which would be slot to get up to the speed they were at.

            It is all a cat and mouse or chicken game and I think the claim of murder is hogwash as most of the post definitely is, there will be fault found both sides as a marine investigator has already suggested.

      • roger nome 1.1.2

        fuck, i hope vidiot isn’t a rugby video ref.

    • winston smith 1.2

      Fool – vessels at sea do not actually have any “right of way”

      they are ‘stand on vessel’ or ‘give way’ vessels.

      This means that at no time should any vessel actually navigate its way into a collision situation, and the rules are clear that no one in command of a vessel should assume a “right of way” and should at all costs avoid a collision.

      Clauses 16 and 17 make these points – in case you missed them they’re immediately after Rule 15

      There are also international conventions governing which is a stand on vessel, such as small vessels giving way to big vessels and you can test this for yourself by parking your runabout in the middle of Rangitoto Channel in front of a container ship. Go ahead, double dare you

      • grumpy 1.2.1

        Glenn Inwood 021 498010

      • mickysavage 1.2.2

        Fool vessels at sea do not actually have any “right of way’

        But clause 15 says “the vessel which has the other on the starboard side must give way”. Sounds like a right of way to me.

        Clauses 16 and 17 make these points in case you missed them they’re immediately after Rule 15

        You mean clause 16 which says “[t]he give-way vessel must take early and substantial action to keep well clear” and clause 17 which says “[t]he stand-on vessel may take action to avoid collision if it becomes clear that the give-way vessel is not taking appropriate action.”

        The AG had about 5 seconds warning of the collision. What was it meant to do? Get beamed up to the mother ship?

  2. prism 2

    captcha – biology
    I see that the politicians say NZ can’t afford to provide cover for protest boats even though the Japanese are becoming more aggressive and it is admitted that it may lead to deaths. Perhaps the Japanese are becoming more aggressive because they know that NZ government and Mr McCully don’t, at the end of the day, have the integrity and guts to do anything about it.
    Appeasement is the name of the game for NZ. We can talk the talk but we won’t walk the walk. And the national character shows in their spokesman Glen Inwood?

    “the frigid ships of the Southern Ocean” would be the frigid seas I suppose Marty. How long does it take to die in the water? Minutes I think. I read a sad story once about
    a couple living in the far north of Scandinavia. The husband was standing on ice which suddenly fractured taking him away from shore. Neither he nor his wife had a boat handy to save him in time, he couldn’t afford to get wet either. She watched him drift away and he fell to his knees saying his last prayers. It’s hard to comprehend how hard those conditions are.
    But I guess the government is relaxed about it. It is just another depradation of the ocean, there are so many, let it happen, we can’t support protest it’s not National govt’s way, the easy greasy way. We can whine that we haven’t enough money. In truth the Nats would always use that argument no matter how much they had in kitty.
    And what is the Tangaroa going to be doing there? Isn’t NZ research on whales going to be happening through this ship? I want to be sure that there will be support for the ship and crew forthcoming at the smell of aggression from these Japanese pirates.

    • infused 2.1

      Sea Shepherd has also said there maybe deaths, coming from them. Sea Shepherd are the ones upping the anti. Reap what you sow.

  3. Tigger 3

    Those pesky protestors! National really do want to squash any dissent…of course, squashing dissent is the thing that creates uprisings…

    Can’t imagine how McCully might have reacted if someone had been killed. ‘Ah well, it was his own fault really so boo sucks family and friends. You probably all voted Green anyway. Losers.’

  4. Andrei 4

    I see that the politicians say NZ can’t afford to provide cover for protest boats even though the Japanese are becoming more aggressive and it is admitted that it may lead to deaths. Perhaps the Japanese are becoming more aggressive because they know that NZ government and Mr McCully don’t, at the end of the day, have the integrity and guts to do anything about it.

    And why should they, if idiots want to go and play chicken with Japanese ships in the Southern Ocean why should the New Zealand taxpayer “protect” them.

    the videos suggest to me the the fool piloting the Ady Gil steered a course deliberately toward the Japanese vessel, got too close and crunch.

    Hopefully the helm settings of the Japanese ship are recorded and I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that it was making a turn to port the entire time despite how it appears on the video – bear in mind the video was shot from a moving platform..

    • grumpy 4.1

      They are doing it because the NZ and particularly Australian Governments won’t.
      The Japanese boat was a “security” vessel. It’s job was to take out the protest boats.
      Nothing has changed in the Japanese mindset since WWII. That point will not be lost in Australia.

      • infused 4.1.1

        The anti whalers had been harassing the boat all day. Many times moving in front of it.

      • Swampy 4.1.2

        Anyone up against a ship flying a pirates flag is entitled to self defence actions. The pirates flag is incitement to lawlessness.

    • Draco T Bastard 4.2

      No, the videos suggest that the Japanese boat steered a course directly toward the Ady Gil and hit it. This, at the very least, is attempted murder.

      Personally, I’d call it an act of war.

        • grumpy 4.2.1.1

          Getting desperate??? Doesn’t look like the Ady Gil to me.

          This video really shows the trick of “planes of reference”. Did the Japs turn into SS path or did SS turn into the Japs??

          All we know is that the incident was investigated and no charges were laid.

          • Gosman 4.2.1.1.1

            Ummmm… The Sea Shepherd Boat shouldn’t have been anywhere near the Japanese boat in that video.

            Why do you continue to defend the actions as if members of the Sea Shepherd crowd has not come out publically and stated that they believe the ends justifies the means.

            This group is not some tree-hugging Gandhi fan group.

            • grumpy 4.2.1.1.1.1

              Sea Shepherd are doing a job that the NZ and aussie governments are too gutless to do. Sure they are activists but they know they are putting themselves at great risk to expose what is happening in the Southern Ocean – I admire them for that. compare them to the lily livered gutless Greenpeace protest a few years ago.

              To me it’s the Mururoa protests of my (relative) youth – except then a brave government (Labour by some fluke) led by Norman Kirk actually had the balls to do something.

              • Swampy

                The NZ and Australian goverments have decided quite rightly that a few hundred whales are less important than millions of of their own citizens.

          • ben 4.2.1.1.2

            Grumpy, this comment really takes the cake: “Did the Japs turn into SS path or did SS turn into the Japs??”

            You are ridiculous.

      • Gosman 4.2.2

        An act of war against whom exactly?

        I always thought wars were fought between recognised enitities like nation states. You are now sounding like GWB and his nonsensical ‘War on Terror’ or the equally nonsensical ‘War on Drugs’

        • grumpy 4.2.2.1

          Probably you are right, it’s not technically “war” but the escalating violence in what is a default “no man’s land” means it may well become a “conflict”.

          The sudden unexpected appearance of the “Bob Barker” raises the spectre of other, more radical organisations like Agenda21 turning up with something pretty effective – like an ex Russian Battleship (now that would be fun).

  5. Sanctuary 5

    Wasn’t that interview a shining beacon of, you know, REAL ACTUAL JOURNALISM on the anaemic NatRad this morning?

    The Japanese will take heart from McCully’s washing of his hands of this issue. He is a lily livered Quisling. The Australians will be dismayed that we’ve signalled we plan to do nothing to stop Japanese environmental aggression in our own backyard. I mean, ask yourself – what the fuck is Japan – a northern hemisphere nation – doing hunting whales in the Antartic? Perhaps because the greedy bastards have slaughtered all their whales and now they want everyones elses?

    We should have dispatched an Orion to very visibly photograph and make low passes by the Japanese whaling fleet and made noises about putting a naval vessel on standby. At the end of the day, if Japan wants to fight a “cod war” over whales in the Southern Ocean then I think we would win it and I say its the perfect issue to build a favourable foreign policy profile with ordinary citizens everywhere.

    Let us take them on, but let’s do it properly. The footage of New Zealand MAF patrol vessels (NOT warships – and paint them like Coast Guard vessels) boldly confronting Japanese whalers and warships in order to protect noble, rare and magnificient whales would be a absolute PR disaster for Japan’s image and bring a swift end to this affront in our Southern Oceans.

    • Gosman 5.1

      This is not our backyard. It is thousands of kilometers from Sovereign NZ Territory, (unless you think the Ross dependency is actually ours).

    • Gosman 5.2

      “noble, rare and magnificient whales”

      Gawd I feel sick just reading that. However it does explain why the Sea Shepherd crowd don’t go off and confront Cod fishing boats in the North Atlantic. They aren’t as ‘Cuddly’ as those ‘Cutsey wootsey’ Whales.

      • Tigger 5.2.1

        Tell you what, you go do some protesting about cod, do as much as you like. Meanwhile the anti-whaling group will protest about whatever they want to protest about. You don’t set their agenda, they do.

        Typical right wing response – “if you’re worried about X why don’t you do Y?” It’s not an argument, it’s just a bully-boy catchcry.

        • Gosman 5.2.1.1

          I’m simply pointing out the standard trendy lefty bandwagon jumping behaviour of protest groups such as this.

          These people can protest whatever they like for all I care, however if they engage in the sort of behaviour they do and then expect others to come running to help them when something goes wrong then they are a little thicker than I thought.

    • Swampy 5.3

      Why are whales more important than people in New Zealand (or elsewhere in the world)? You are advocating that they are. Only the Sea Shepherd nutters have millions of dollars to blow on whales and seals and dolphins except they could spend it all on feeding the starving in Africa if they had a clue about what really matters.

      How about asking our tangata whenua instead of imposing white guilt on the country.
      http://www.worldwhalers.com/publications/news.htm
      June 23, 2005
      Maori Support Whaling by Other Indigenous Peoples
      Maori support the right of other indigenous peoples to carry on their traditional whaling practices provided the hunting is sustainable, Treaty of Waitangi Fisheries director Archie Taiaroa says.
      Mr Tairoa was the spokesman chosen by Maori at a World Council of Whalers conference in Nelson in November, 2000…..

      June 21, 2005
      Conflict looms over Labour Party’s whaling policy (New Zealand)
      Press Release: New Zealand National Party
      Shane Jones told the New Zealand Herald in his capacity as Waitangi Fisheries Commission chairman that the Green movement’s ‘disgust’ over commercial whaling was a Pakeha (non Maori) perspective only…..

      Now I support the right of Maori tribes to say this, and to hunt whales if they wish.

  6. Ag 6

    NZ should send a frigate down there to protect NZ citizens

  7. the sprout 7

    McCully is being a coward and a traitor to the interests of NZ seafarers.
    I wouldn’t travel by sea any time soon if I were him.

  8. Would you expect anything more from McCully. The man is the village idiot.
    Under maritime law the Japanese are clearly in the wrong and the Japanese footage does nothing to aid their cause.
    It will be interesting to see what international prosecutions might be forthcoming.

  9. grumpy 9

    Both National and Labour before it have been gutless in confronting the Japanese. Under Labour, our maritime capability has been so reduced that we really have no ships that we could sent down.
    Australia has been even worse. This incident happenned inside waters Australia claims, Labor was elected on the promise they would stop Japanese whaling and Garrett is just a carbon copy of McCully.

    Please don’t classify vidiot and Andrei as “right wing wankers” over this. It is an issue that transcends political ideology.

    Any objective viewing of the video shows the ady gil virtually motionless in the water – don’t look at the prop disturbance, look at the lack of wake.
    The jap boat was under full power, it was a deliberate ramming and indeed, attempted murder.

    • Draco T Bastard 9.1

      Under Labour, our maritime capability has been so reduced that we really have no ships that we could sent down.

      /facepalm

      http://www.navy.mil.nz/visit-the-fleet/project-protector/default.htm

      Project Protector fleet requirements were outlined in the 2002 Maritime Forces Review, conducted by Defence in close cooperation with MFAT, the Ministry of Fisheries, Customs, Treasury, the Maritime Safety Authority, and Police among others. In mid-2004 a study was undertaken in conjunction with the Civilian Agencies to decide the number of vessels and fleet mix necessary.

      Our military stagnated and went backwards under the 4th National government. The 5th Labour government took steps to right that under investment and took our defence forces along a more practical direction.

      • grumpy 9.1.1

        The one MRV (canterbury) is marginal for extended stays in the Southern Ocean. The OPVs, although they look the part are really only coastal ships and would be useless in the Souther Ocean.
        Even the ANZAC frigates would find it tough. The only real thing we have are the ancient Orions.
        Face it, our “blue water” Navy with Southern Ocean/antarctic ability is non existent.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.1.1.1

          Yes, it’d probably be nice to have some modern destroyer class ships but we can’t get them all at the same time. Then there was the question of if we actually needed such and the review said that we didn’t.

          But, it still wasn’t Labour that allowed our defence forces to get into such a bad shape in the first place.

    • Swampy 9.2

      The Gil started moving shortly before the collision and moved into the path such that collision is guaranteed. They were picking up speed and not turning.

  10. tc 10

    Yes but we might want to have another Bledisloe Rugby Game in Japan so can’t upset the nips now can we.

    McCully’s a twat but sadly a senior twat alongside the likes of blinglish/re-Joyce…..be afraid kids, be very afraid.

    I’m not surprised given the way Nat’s encouraged the bok tour of the 80’s and the behaviour of NZ police towards those who dared to voice a different opinion……leopards and spots.

    Can’t wait for our top newshounds to ask their probing questions like……….how was hawaii John ?

  11. Rob 11

    Until the Japanese are honest about the “scientific research” they do while 900 whales a year…. I dont think they have much credibility.

    If they came out and said “yes, we hunt for meat” at least they may seem more believable on what happened on the boats.

    And I thought squirting a water cannon at a boat they had just rammed, was bad sport.

    • grumpy 11.1

      So is machime gunning and chopping the heads of prisoners and civilians – you are dealing with a different mindset.

    • Greenpeace Japan proved in an undercover operation that the whale hunt has nothing to do with research and everything with a Mafioso money grabbing crime.

      Clearly the Nats think that Robber baronning is the way to go.

  12. Once again in purgatory.

  13. Bill 13

    So how cold is the Southern Ocean?

    How long can a person expect to survive in it?

    What is the turning circle of the likes of the Sea Shepherd; ie how long for it to come round on itself?

    After reflecting on that type of question, the ‘serves them right’ brigade and the ‘there was no real peril’ brigade might want to quiet on down a wee bit.

    • Swampy 13.1

      The bigger ship, the whaler – slow to manouevre at any speed.

      The Gil – very fast but it appears needs to build up speed to get water over the rudders before it can turn.

      The Gil takes off, they need the speed to turn, but they aren’t going fast enough to turn in time yet fast enough to push themselves right into the whaler’s path.

  14. randal 14

    what?
    whalemeat again!
    nah its just tory snakeoil.
    cant you tell the diference?

  15. ben 15

    This is the post that confirms for me, as if it wasn’t obvious, the total delusion that exists on the Left. This is what it takes to be a socialist. A video that shows the protester boat hit the throttles and accelerate into the path of the oncoming boat is evidence of the whalers’ fault. Uh, yeah.

    This is the same protest group that has collided with and sunk 9 ships with their can opener technology. The same group responsible for this. Incidentally, the captain responsible for that collision also blamed the Japanese.

    But sure, maybe this time it’s not their fault. Ignore the history. Ignore the wash behind the protest boat immediately prior to collision. Ignore the collision horn sounding from the Japanese boat. Ignore the lack of any discernable reason for the Japanese to collide with anyone. Consider the apparent turn to starboard by the Japanese but ignore the turn to port. And re-print the ludicrous claims from their leader who has lied and lied again to the press.

    I don’t care what cause you support. The delusion displayed here and in the comments is beyond sanity. Any cause that requires such logical contortions has no value, and anybody willing to stand up and make them has no integrity.

    • grumpy 15.1

      They don’t sink ships with the can opener, this is how it’s done.

      http://www.earthfirst.org.uk/actionreports/node/5217

    • Bill 15.2

      “The delusion displayed here and in the comments is beyond sanity. Any cause that requires such logical contortions has no value, and anybody willing to stand up and make them has no integrity.”

      And knowing this you voted for the Nats or ACT anyway? And adopt their ‘logic’ and argue their lines up and down the various comment threads?

      Priceless, ben. Priceless.

    • Ben

      A video that shows the protester boat hit the throttles and accelerate into the path of the oncoming boat is evidence of the whalers’ fault. Uh, yeah.

      Now you are making it up.

      I have posted a few photos of what the boat is capable of at my website. You can see for yourself the boat was not throttling, it was barely out of neutral if that. It was rammed into and sunk by the Japanese for the temerity of trying to stop the Japanese from illegally killing whales.

      It sucks.

      So does the rule of law apply to everyone?

      • ben 15.3.1

        This is what I mean. You have not just a wake but cavitation where there was none and your best explanation is there was no throttle. You are ridiculous.

        • mickysavage 15.3.1.1

          Ok so that you cannot twist my words I will rephrase it for you in simple language.

          The photos suggest that at 5 seconds before collision the boat was pretty well idle and at 3 seconds it was only just starting to get out of idle. If the skipper had floored it you would have seen a tremendous amount of spray coming out of the engine vents and there is virtually none.

          AG may have been doing a couple of knots at the time of collision.

          If it was stationary it should not have been run down.

          If it was moving it had the right of way and should not have been run down.

          It did not “hit the throttle”. Acceleration was minimal at best.

          So explain how the AG did not have the right of way, presuming that it was moving.

          • ben 15.3.1.1.1

            And again. Keep digging. No law in the world is going to give a boat in AG’s the right to power up and cause a collision like that, even with right of way.

            And in the previous post you have JUST EXPLAINED the AG was not throttling. The very next one you say it is. You could not be more transparent.

            • Draco T Bastard 15.3.1.1.1.1

              The AG didn’t cause the collision – the Japanese did by turning toward the AG. The AG, if it accelerated prior to the collision, was probably trying to get out of the way. Considering conditions and the design of the AG going backwards wasn’t an option.

            • mickysavage 15.3.1.1.1.2

              Nah Ben, read again.

              You said

              A video that shows the protester boat hit the throttles and accelerate into the path of the oncoming boat is evidence of the whalers’ fault. Uh, yeah.

              I said:

              1. If it was throttling it was travelling very slowly.

              2. If it was moving it had the right of way and should not have been rammed.

              3. If it was not moving it should not have been rammed.

              Can you address these points individually instead of repeatedly saying that it accelerated into the path of the Japanese ship?

              I would invite you to take your rose tinted glasses off and look again at the videos.

              Check out Deedub’s combination of the videos. Marvel at how the Japanese ship leans to the right as it turns into the AG. And explain how you can say that it was all the AG’s fault.

      • Gosman 15.3.2

        Ummmmmm…….

        What law are they supposed breaching that makes their Whaling activities illegal?

    • Swampy 15.4

      Thanks for that perspective.

      The Sea Shepherd are like the abortion clinic bombers, they paint their ships black, carry the pirate flag on them, whatever it takes …

  16. randal 16

    whatever the tactics ben the cause is right.
    and waffling on about seamanship to a gang of landlubbers is tootoo twee for me.
    this is about building ships and big men on the fishmarket floor in tokyo.
    they are so big that they can play games with the world just for their own immediate status values while limpdick apolgists split hairs and confuse the issue.
    and last but not least ben.
    what are they actually going to do when there are no whales left?

    • ben 16.1

      Here’s the thing, Randal. The quality of the cause is in my view decided by the quality of the supporting argument. If the cause cannot be won by convincing others of your point of view then then your cause isn’t persuasive. Resorting to lying and physical hostility simply underlines the fact that anti-whalers don’t have a very good argument. Arguments defended at the point of a gun, or in this case the bow of a ship, cannot generally be good arguments. A bit like religion, really.

      • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1

        That doesn’t make much sense actually. It assumes that everyone is open to argument, everyone is working from the same presuppositions and everyone is arguing in good faith.
        This leads you to here:

        ” Resorting to lying and physical hostility simply underlines the fact that anti-whalers don’t have a very good argument.”

        Which is classic ad hom. In spite of your initial claim to be focussed on the arguments, you abandon the argument and judge things by what else the person making an argument is doing.

        The obvious godwinning of the thread would have you rejecting the allies cause because they failed to convince h1tler with their arguments.

        Likewise, you’d be on the ‘wrong’ side of most civil liberties battles in history, and deeply troubled by the way the west ended up with representative democracy instead of retaining our absolute monarchies, and so on and so forth.

        The very common fact is that people actually genuinely believe different things and no amount of argument will change their positions, at this point other types of confrontation become likely. You don’t have to choose a side of course.

        • ben 16.1.1.1

          Which is classic ad hom. In spite of your initial claim to be focussed on the arguments, you abandon the argument and judge things by what else the person making an argument is doing.

          Ugh. God that’s a horrible argument. Truly awful.

          would have you rejecting the allies cause because they failed to convince h1tler with their arguments.

          Except that Hitler posed a threat to their existence. Which is not the same as a disagreement on, essentially, personal values.

          Yes – people believe different things. And there is a process for resolving those differences, which is the law, which is being openly flouted by these protesters. Furthermore, it is not usually considered helpful to have the majority vote to force a minority around to their view on matters of personal values. Finally, support for protesters taking such radical action in support of their views is an invitation to anarchy. Consistency is not a feature of many people on this site, the view seems to be in support of radical action when its for something you agree with, and for any other cause certainly not.

          But if its ok to ram and sink boats in support of one cause, why is it not ok to run Steven Joyce off the road for his mobile phone ban or set fire to the ACC building for another failure or torch any billboard I don’t like. In short: justify a world in which people are free to decide their ends justify any means (Hint: try to think of a reason other than the fact that those happen not to be causes you support.)

          • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1.1.1

            “Ugh. God that’s a horrible argument. Truly awful.”

            Argument by assertion, followed up with some irrelevant arguments from consequences.

          • Pascal's bookie 16.1.1.1.2

            Even though it’s irrelevant, I’ll just quickly point out that people that engaged in civil disobedience accept the consequences of that disobedience. It’s kind of the point.

            One part of the tactical equation is that your opponent may step beyond the accepted consequences, giving you some propaganda opportunities. Another part is that the public may feel that the agreed consequences themselves are harsh, again leading to propaganda opportunities and the hoped for changes. That’s the background to the issues that you are so misreading.

            Seeing you’ve made the allegation, I’d love to see you quote me or anyone else condemning people for taking civil disobedience style action based on the basis we disagree with their aims. You have a habit of assuming bad faith ben, and another of arguing by assertion. neither of these are generally considered up to the standard you seem to think you operate at.

            • ben 16.1.1.1.2.1

              I’m up for a good sharing of opinions any time Pascal but there comes a point when an opponent takes a position so transparently silly that I assume it is disingenuous and designed only to waste the time of anyone taking the time to respond. You say a lot of smart things, actually, but I thought the ad hominem argument above crossed that line and didn’t want to take the time. Plus there was a bit on at work.

  17. tc 17

    Hey randal,

    I hear they’re going to harvest (for scientific purposes of course) Seals and Dolphins……once they’ve plundered all the local ones.

    A barbaric warlike culture that’s still recovering it’s capabilities from the post WW2 de-knackering…..after which the US taught it how to have the best quality processes on the planet…..nice one.

    I agree with the rights of protesters but knowing the nips…..I wouldn’t give them the chance as we can all see what happens.

    Same reasons I never gave the red squad during the bok tour a chance to smash my head in the name of democracy.

    • Swampy 17.1

      Some of what is being put up against the Japanese whalers is borderline racism. Just like Minto and Co attacking that tennis player because she is an Israeli.

      I hope to see the quality of this discussion improve because it is nothing to do with being Japanese. Plenty of other nations have hunted whales in their time.

  18. burt 18

    Ben

    I couldn’t agree more. mickysavage once again just looks though his one half blind eye and only sees what suites his agenda. Then being a good sock puppet for his half witted masters he makes stuff up and gets angry when challenged with facts.

    And now the Ady Gil has sunk and I bet conveniently the GPS data from the 5 minutes prior to accelerating into the path of the Japanese ship will be lost.

    This has become a joke, if the GPS wasn’t removed from the vessel then there should be an automatic assumption of guilt on the part of the Ady Gil. They had a chance to retain evidence that would have convicted or vindicated them – did they take it?

    If not why not?

    • Burt

      I bet conveniently the GPS data from the 5 minutes prior to accelerating into the path of the Japanese ship will be lost

      There might be a slight problem. It may now be on the sea bed with the boat.

      They had a chance to retain evidence that would have convicted or vindicated them did they take it?

      Maybe they had more pressing things to do like save their lives.

      Are you being serious?

  19. greenfly 19

    Your fine print describes your desire to see David Farrar adrift in the frigid waters, in order to see how long he would last – the Penguin is very well insulated and suited to survive in those conditions, so presumably he’d last longer than any of us would wish.

  20. burt 20

    mickysavage

    Saving their lives was an easy thing to do mickysavage. When the ship was about 200m away and blasting it’s warning sirens and water canons the skipper on the Ady Gil could have just moved away. It takes two to tango mickysavage and it is indeed lucky nobody was killed in the game of chicken we see in the video’s

    Let me guess, not dramatic enough to stay a safe (10m would have been enough) distance from the ship you are harassing?

  21. burt 21

    mickysavage

    All you have left now is to claim that the Japanese ship out manouvered the Ady Gil – go on tell us how hundreds of tons of ship can hunt down and destroy an agile fast small craft that just couldn’t escape the relentless attack over days and days….

    Go the whole hog micky, you have sold your soul 95% so just jump fully into la-la-land.

  22. Brett 22

    You poke the bear you get the claws.

  23. burt 23

    mickysavage

    If when you have right of way in your car you have an accident because you had right of way so you just kept doing what you were doing even when an accident was evident then;

    1. You are in the right
    2. You are a useless driver
    3. You have show blatant disregard for the saftey of your passengers

    So if the skipper of the Ady Gil was in the right then legally OK… but this makes him an idiot unworthy of his skippers ticket.

    You can’t win this – both skippers had an obligation to avoid a colision…. this is the overriding rule in play here… keep up.

  24. DeeDub 24

    Captcha: close !!?!

    I’ve put both videos together here:

    Looks like an intentional ramming to me the more I look at it.

    • Swampy 24.1

      Looks to me like the Ady Gil accidentally cut in front of the whaling ship, confirmed by 3 News analysis
      http://www.3news.co.nz/Experts-Ady-Gil-tried-to-cross-Japanese-ships-bow/tabid/417/articleID/136461/Default.aspx

      Capt Varney is an experienced maritime accident investigator and has been a captain for more than 50 years. He says both vessels were ignoring international maritime law, and suspects the Ady Gil unintentionally moved into the Japanese boat’s path.

      “It may have been a miscalculation on the part of the Ady Gil. He may have been attempting to cross the bow.”

      Captain Tim Wilson from the New Zealand Maritime School agrees that the Ady Gil was accelerating when it was hit by the Japanese ship.

      “We can see the two vessels coming together,” he says of the footage supplied by Sea Shephard. “Clearly it appears that they are going to pass clear – at this point, we can see the Ady Gil moving very slowly across.”

      But watching the Japanese footage, he adds: “The Adi Gil appears to suddenly start moving – you can see the sudden increase in wake as she moves forward.”

      But the motivation behind the move is murky.

      “They tried to accelerate and get some control and move ahead of the bow,” says Capt Wilson. “The other thing could have been that they moved into the impact zone.”

  25. Jum 25

    The real losers while the governments of both countries play politics – the whales. Shame and a killer pox on both their houses.

    Solution: stick them in the barns planned for the McKenzie country and feed them their own sxxxt. Result: they stop milking us and solve a whole emissions problem.

  26. BLiP 26

    Might be about time to start following groups of Japanese tourists around with a loud hailer, signs and information about what their government is doing.

    • ben 26.1

      Here’s an idea Blip. Tonight I’m going to stand outside your home with a loudhailer and yell at you for all the things the Labour Party did that I didn’t like. Now you may not have voted for Labour. And you certainly are not individually responsible for all the things they did that I don’t like. And I’ll probably scare the hell out of your family. But you’re a New Zealander, right?

      I will be doing to you what you are talking about doing to Japanese tourists. Any objections?

      • prism 26.1.1

        You are talking about different things Blip and ben.
        Blip is responding to a reported lack of information in Japan about the whaling environment and how this could be improved.
        Ben is thinking about individual rights to peace without being harrassed about anything whether for good intentions or not.

    • Swampy 26.2

      Why? SHould everyone buy a load hailer and run around abusing everyone about everything all day. Such protest actions are not too subtle racism. It’s ironic Minto and co claimed to be fighting racism when they are targeting sports players based solely on being Israeli.

  27. prism 27

    If an overview is taken, this whale hunting problem probably just meshes into a number of conflicts over the world as people take what they want and sneer at those who attempt to control them.
    Imagine how it will increase as we lose our natural resources and the growing population heaves and pushes and will not even consider controlling growth and plan and make necessary changes to limit fallout from future problems.

  28. Jum 28

    Murray McCully’s comment about a person on a small vessel trying to kill a Japanese on a huge ship is a huge clue about how he feels towards living creatures. Might is more important than integrity and humanity. That is the whole of the NAct government’s ideal.

    ‘Money, money, money…it’s a rich man’s world’.

    Human and animal rights have no place in this government’s future. I so hope it’s future is short .

    • Swampy 28.1

      People are living creatures and there are 4 million in this country. People are much more important than whales.

  29. Jenny 29

    Is the Southern Ocean a lawless territory?

    If it is, then it is inevitable that the struggle over whaling will escalate to human blood shed and tragedy.

    For this reason the proper authorities need to act.

    According to its statistics the Shonan Maru has a top speed of 12 knots.

    http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Japan/shonan_maru_2.html

    This gives credence to the claim by the protesters that though in close proximity, both ships were idling at the time, when the Shonan Maru suddenly accelerated and deliberately ran down the Ady Gill.

    With a top speed of 40 knots and a cruising speed: 20 knots, the Ady Gil, if it had been fully underway as the whalers claim; it would have been unlikely for the Shonan Maru to have matched and run over the Ady Gil in the manner described by the whalers.

    There needs to be proper hearing to determine if the ramming of Ady Gil was a deliberate act as described by the protesters, or a reckless miscalculation by the protesting vessel as it was fully underway, as alleged by the whalers. Both sets of allegations are serious and need to be investigated.

    If the allegations of the protesters are proven, then the master of the Shonan Maru would be guilty of showing a callous disregard for human life and should be charged with breaching maritime safety laws.

    Conversely, if the protesters are found to be guilty of the reckless navigation of their vessel while underway, then they too should expect to charged with reckless use of a vessel while making way, under the maritime laws of the respective governments with statutory authority in this matter.

    It can only be by pure luck that no one in the crew of the Ady Gil was killed or seriously injured in this singular act.

    If this incident is not investigated under the international rules of safe navigation at sea. Then the Japanese whalers may well feel emboldened to think that they can get human blood on their hands as well as cetacean, and be able to get away with it.

    If nothing is done because these incidents occurred on the open sea, then the protesters may also conclude that there are no holds barred in this struggle and also claim a mandate to act as they see fit.

    If nothing is done by the proper authorities then the escalation to human tragedy, and loss of life, as well as the loss of more vessels is inevitable.

    It behoves the authorities to prevent this tragedy.

    What sort of penalties should be considered to prevent a repeat?

    The penalties should fit the crime. At the very least the international marine certification tickets of any individuals found guilty of breaching the laws of safe navigation should be revoked.

    Impoundment and confiscation of the offending vessels should also be considered as a remedy that would punish not just the individuals but also the organisations responsible, as a disincentive for them condoning this sort of offending by their members or employees.

    As the Ady Gil is a New Zealand registered vessel and the incident occurred in the Australian international rescue territory, it behoves both governments to act.

    Excuses for inaction by either government or their respective enforcement agencies would be a dereliction of fiduciary duty and responsibility.

    In simple language, such a cowardly cop-out to act to prevent further damage and destruction in the Southern Ocean would mean some of the blame for the inevitable deaths and destruction of property could also be laid at the doorstep of these authorities.

    PS. New Zealand enforcement authorities seem to show remarkable enthusiasm and initiative to “preserve the peace” on land, and will go to great lengths, even if, means must, breaking the law to achieve it.

    To bad they don’t show the same sort of enthusiasm for preserving the peace at sea.

    • Swampy 29.1

      The Shonan Maru is an 8000 ton ship with a top speed of only 12 knots. Clearly the Shonan Maru does not have enough engine power to take off “suddenly” as claimed. 12 knots is pretty slow. From standstill it takes a long time to accelerate a ship like that if it only has a top speed of 12 knots.

      I have no doubt if Watson could get away with murder, he would, that is why he flys the pirate’s flag on his ships, he believes his cause is noble enough, they have no qualms about trying to sink the ships regardless, turn it around and it Watson had a chance of ramming the Japanese ship out of the water he would have.

      I don’t think that Sea Shepherd are yet crazy enough to try to kill someone but they are definitely heading in that direction.

  30. prism 30

    I think I will have to give some money to a recovery fund for this great ship – a sacrifice to the planet earth it raced around.

  31. Pete 31

    Why is anyone defending the Japanese?

    My problem is that this is our part of the world – hunt whales in your own waters Japan.

    At a government level we look like pussies, as said by others previously we used to make a stand on these things.

    I’m off to buy another Toyota.

  32. quenchino 32

    Words are fine but not serving overly much; put some money on the table.

  33. Swampy 34

    Any nutter who is dumb enough to paint a pirate’s flag on their ship deserves everything they get.

    But the Japanese did not try to murder anyone. How much do you want to bet the Maritime investigation will find otherwise. What kind of crap is this.

  34. To all of the wingnuts who have maintained, after seeing the videos, that the Adi Gil accelerated into the path of the Japanese support boat, can I refer you all to the following press release from Reuters.

    To quote:

    Japan’s Fisheries Agency said the collision took place when Ady Gil suddenly slowed down as it crossed in front of Shonan Maru, which had warned the boat of impending danger.

    So what was it? Did the AG accelerate in front of the Japanese boat or did it slow down in front of the Japanese boat? Maybe it did both.

    A further quote,

    Ady Gil did not send a distress signal and did not appear to be sinking, the Agency said, adding that Shonan Maru did not suffer major damage and its crew were safe.

    I am sure that the boat was fine, it was only a flesh wound, nothing serious, just a scratch …

    • burt 35.1

      mickysavage

      So crossing the bow of a massive ship in a much smaller craft close enough to take a hit is appropriate behaviour in the southern oceans now, naughty Japanese it’s all their fault the Ady Gil got the timing slightly wrong isn’t it.

      You don’t get this do you.

    • Swampy 35.2

      Can I refer you to maritime experts as quoted on 3 News.
      http://www.3news.co.nz/Experts-Ady-Gil-tried-to-cross-Japanese-ships-bow/tabid/417/articleID/136461/Default.aspx

      They support my contention that the Gil has accidentally moved into the path of the whaling ship. Due to the fact they could not turn until they get under way, they have tried to get under way which has moved them right into the whaler’s path before they could turn out. If they had sat still they may not have been hit, perhaps they should have tried reversing.

  35. So Burt did the AG accelerate in front of the bow of the massive ship or did it slow down in front of the massive ship. The apologists for the Japanese Government have suggested both possibilities.

    And what about its right of way?

    You seem to be confusing right with might.

    • burt 36.1

      Mickysavage

      This will be settled in an inquiry, not this blog here and now. You are convinced by one parties story and have no concept of any possibility that the AG simply got too close. You simply can’t claim that an agile maneuverable vessel like the AG was acting responsibly from such limited evidence. All vessels have an obligation to respect other vessels micky, this is not possibly the fault of only one party.

      • Jenny 36.1.1

        Well fudged, burt

        • burt 36.1.1.1

          I see the AG accelerate it’s engines just before impact, I think it stuffed up and got to close. But I’m not trying to convince you of that Jenny. Micky has made conclusion, he knows. 16 seconds of video isn’t enough info for me to “know” what went on.

      • mickysavage 36.1.2

        Burt Quote 1

        This has become a joke, if the GPS wasn’t removed from the vessel then there should be an automatic assumption of guilt on the part of the Ady Gil. They had a chance to retain evidence that would have convicted or vindicated them did they take it?

        Burt Quote 2

        This will be settled in an inquiry, not this blog here and now. You are convinced by one parties story and have no concept of any possibility that the AG simply got too close. You simply can’t claim that an agile maneuverable vessel like the AG was acting responsibly from such limited evidence. All vessels have an obligation to respect other vessels micky, this is not possibly the fault of only one party.

        Are these quotes reconcilable?

        • burt 36.1.2.1

          The AG has remarkable tracking equipment, live GPS feeds to the world remember. If there is a void of tracking data in the information supplied by the AG team at an inquiry then yes – they are hiding something.

    • burt 36.2

      So Burt did the AG accelerate in front of the bow of the massive ship

      That would explain the Japanese ship changing it’s tactic from trying to steer behind the AG to trying to steer ahead of it. The tracking and radar logging data will settle this.

    • Swampy 36.3

      The Ady Gil tried to get up speed so they could make a sharp turn away but in order to get up speed they have to go straight ahead which has pushed them into the path of the Japanese ship. They should have reversed.

    • burt 37.1

      OMFG – 16 seconds of video tracking a ship turning this way and that toward a boat this is either dead in the water, accelerating or decelerating gives the experts at Red Alert enough evidence to judge all that. Man no wonder Trever did such a great job at closing schools, he’s a natural born hack.

  36. Pete 38

    That boat did not accelerate toward the whaler – this has been comprehensively explained earlier in this thread. All boats leave a wake relative to the direction of the surface water movement – look at the bow wave generated by the whaler – more importantly look at the water cannon directed on the cab and explain how this may not have clouded the skippers view.

    Grow up and stick up for this part of the globe

  37. Pete 39

    Swampy… physics does not allow boat propellers to work efficiently in reverse – it would be like doing a wheelspin in reverse up a mud bank in a car.

    Again look at the maritime laws for the powered vessel positions and rules (regardless of what may have happened previously).

  38. Pete 40

    Guys…

    Please don’t have the retarded belief that GPS positioning will prove all – you need to read up on its capabilities.

  39. Pete 41

    …”On January 1st, 2010 two men, Glen Inwood and Chris Johnston from Omeka Communications located in Wellington, New Zealand chartered a Chieftain aircraft out of Melbourne. They identified themselves as acting on behalf of the government of New Zealand to track down and locate a New Zealand catamaran and the Steve Irwin on the pretext that if they (the Sea Shepherd ships) were to get in trouble it would cost the New Zealand government a great deal of money to rescue. They wanted the ships located and an estimate given of their track and speed”…

    OK not unbiased but this prick pisses me off…

    We need to grow some balls… we are being made to look like dicks.

    • prism 41.1

      Did Inwood and Johnston have NZ government agreement or request when they stated their reasons for hiring plane I wonder? Since when have we employed this Glen Inwood who is a lobbyist for the Japanese? And if they lied they should be arrested as frauds and probably terrorists.

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • Member’s Day: The choice on End of Life Choice
    Today is a Member's Day, probably the second-to-last one of the year, and its a big one, with the Third Reading of David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill. last Member's Day it was reported back from committee, after MPs voted narrowly to make it subject to a (rules TBA) ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • How growth in population and consumption drives planetary change
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz The growth of the human population over the last 70 ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    5 days ago
  • The disappearing Women …
    by The Council of Disobedient Women In her excellent oral submission to the Abortion reform select committee on 31st October on behalf of Otago University’s Department of Public Health, historian and public health researcher Hera Cook stated: “We would ask that the committee not use the term ‘pregnant persons’ and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • “A Passage to India”: enduring art in changing times
    by Don Franks In 1957, E M Forster wrote, of his greatest work: “The India described in ‘A Passage to India’ no longer exists either politically or socially. Change had begun even at the time the book was published ( 1924) and during the following quarter of a century it ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Contemptuous
    The Referendums Framework Bill was due back from select committee today. But there's no report on it. Instead, the bill has been bounced back to the House under Standing order 29593) because the Committee didn't bother to produce one. They probably tried. But given the membership of the committee (which ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Zero Carbon: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law
    Two years into New Zealand’s Labour-led government, the long-delayed Zero Carbon Bill became law on 7 November. Passed essentially unanimously, the lengthy public debates and political manoeuvring faded away until the final passage was even anticlimactic: Flipping through the @nzstuff @DomPost I was starting to wonder if I’d dreamt ...
    SciBlogsBy Robert McLachlan
    6 days ago
  • Climate Change: What happens next?
    Now the Zero Carbon Bill is law, what's next? Obviously, the ETS changes currently before select committee are going to be the next battleground. But we're also going to get a good idea of where we're going, and if the progress the Zero Carbon Act promises is good enough, during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Climate change will fuel bush fires
    Grant Pearce The effects of the current Australian bushfires in New South Wales and Queensland (and also again in California) are devastating and far-reaching. To date, the fires have resulted in several lives being lost and many homes and properties destroyed. Here in New Zealand, the impacts have been only ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    6 days ago
  • Participation rates
    A passing comment in a post the other day about the labour force participation rates of older people prompted me to pull down the fuller data and see what we could see about various participation rates over the decades since the HLFS began in 1986.   As it happens, the ...
    SciBlogsBy Michael Reddell
    6 days ago
  • Not So Much “OK Boomer” As “OK Ruling Class”.
    Distract And Divert: The rise of what we have come to call “Identity Politics” represents the ideological manifestation of the ruling class’s objective need to destroy class politics, and of the middle-class’s subjective need to justify their participation in the process.THE RELIEF of the ruling class can only be imagined. ...
    6 days ago
  • Asking for it …
    "I saw a newspaper picture,From the political campaignA woman was kissing a child,Who was obviously in pain.She spills with compassion,As that young child'sFace in her hands she gripsCan you imagine all that greed and avariceComing down on that child's lips?" ...
    6 days ago
  • New Zealand’s Poor Pandemic Preparedness According to the Global Health Security Index
    Dr Matt Boyd, Prof Michael Baker, Prof Nick Wilson The Global Health Security Index which considers pandemic threats has just been published. Unfortunately, NZ scores approximately half marks (54/100), coming in 35th in the world rankings – far behind Australia. This poor result suggests that the NZ Government needs to ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Thank Winston
    The Zero Carbon Act is inadequate, with a weak methane target designed to give farmers a free ride. But it turns out it could have been worse: Climate Change Minister James Shaw was so desperate to get National on board, he wanted to gut that target, and leave it in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Illicit markets and Bali Booze
    The Herald reprints an Australian story on a couple of tragic deaths in Bali from drinking cocktails that had methanol in them.  The story argues that methanol is likely the result of home distillation. But what the young tourists were experiencing was far from a hangover. They’d consumed a toxic cocktail ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    7 days ago
  • This is not what armed police are for
    Last month, the police announced a trial of specialist roaming armed units, which would drive round (poor, brown) areas in armoured SUVs, armed to the teeth. When they announced the trial, they told us it was about having armed police "ready to attend major incidents at any time if needed". ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Spain’s failed electoral gamble
    Spain went to the polls today in the second elections this year, after the Socialists (who had come to power in a confidence vote, then gone to the polls in April) rejected the offer of a coalition with the left-wing PoDemos, and instead decided to gamble n a better outcome ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • The astroturf party
    National has finally rolled out its "BlueGreen" astroturf party, fronted by an array of former nats and people who were dumped by the Greens for not being Green enough. Its initial pitch is described by Stuff as "very business-friendly", and its priorities are what you'd expect: conservation, predator-free funding, a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • How to cheat at university
    A couple of days ago I attended (and spoke at) the University of Waikato’s “LearnFest” event. There were lots of talks and sessions on very diverse aspects of teaching, mostly at tertiary level. One was by Myra Williamson from Te Piringa Faculty of Law here at Waikato, on Contract Cheating ...
    SciBlogsBy Marcus Wilson
    7 days ago
  • How NZ was put on world maps using a transit of Mercury
    There will be a transit of Mercury – the planet Mercury will pass across the face of the Sun – taking place at sunrise in New Zealand on Tuesday, 12th November. It was by observing such an event 250 years ago that James Cook and his scientist colleagues were able ...
    SciBlogsBy Duncan Steel
    1 week ago
  • Georgina Beyer: We need to be able to talk without being offended
    Since becoming the world’s first openly transexual mayor and member of parliament, Georgina Beyer has been recognised as a trailblazer for trans rights. Daphna Whitmore talks with her about where she sees the current trans movement We start out talking about legislation the government put on hold that would have ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The anti-fluoride brigade won’t be erecting billboards about this study
    If FFNZ really put their faith in “Top Medical Journals” they would now be amending their billboards to recognise new research results. Image from FFNZ but updated to agree with the latest research. ...
    1 week ago
  • Chosen To Rule? What Sort Of Christian Is Chris Luxon?
    National Messiah? Chris Luxon identifies himself as an evangelical Christian. If he is genuine in this self-characterisation, then he will take every opportunity his public office provides to proselytise on behalf of his faith. He will also feel obliged to bear witness against beliefs and practices he believes to be ...
    1 week ago
  • War of the worms
    I'm going to make a Reckless Prediction™ that the Tories have 'topped out' in the 'poll of polls' / Britain Elects multipoll tracker at about 38%, and in the next week we will start to see Labour creep up on them.In fact, we might just be seeing the start of ...
    1 week ago
  • Marvelly shows us how to be a feminist without feminism
    by The Council of Disobedient Women Lizzie Marvelly: “I may have missed this… has @afterellen gone all terf-y? Or am I reading something incorrectly? “ https://twitter.com/LizzieMarvelly/status/1191840059105742849 After Ellen is a lesbian website that is unashamedly pro-lesbian, as you’d expect. So why is Ms Marvelly so bothered about lesbians having their ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Out of the past – Tories to revive racist laws from the 16th century
    Did you know there once was a time when it was illegal to be a gypsy (aka Romani) in Britain?That was between 1530, when the Egyptians Act was passed, and 1856, when it was repealed.Amongst other things, the act forbade the entry of 'Egyptians' into England, ordered those already there ...
    1 week ago
  • 1000 of these now
    Some days I sit and think, “what will I write…?” What do you say when you get to 1000 posts? Maybe you just start where you are, diverge to where this all began, then offer a collection of reader’s favourite posts, and a few of your own? (And throw in ...
    SciBlogsBy Grant Jacobs
    1 week ago
  • Has Shane Jones Just Saved NZ First?
    Counter-Puncher: The “activists” and “radicals” (his own words) from the Indian community who took such strong exception to Shane Jones’ remarks about Immigration NZ’s treatment of arranged marriages, may end up bitterly regretting their intervention. Jones is not the sort of person who turns the other cheek to his critics.SHANE ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: As predicted
    Yesterday, when National voted for the Zero Carbon Bill, I predicted they'd gut it the moment they regained power, just as they had done to the ETS. And indeed, they have explicitly promised to do exactly that within their first hundred days in office. What would their amendments do? Abandon ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Let this never be forgot
    In the spirit of Remember, remember the fifth of November, let's keep this in mind FOREVER.
    Oh dear. Extraordinary interview on PM with Andrew Bridgen and @EvanHD just now. Bridgen was defending Jacob Rees Mogg’s Grenfell comments. Evan asked him if JRM had meant to say he would have left ...
    1 week ago
  • Too Late To Change Capitalism’s Flightpath?
    Collision Course? In conditions of ideological white-out, the international bankers’ “Woop-Woop! Pull Up!” warning may have come too late to save global capitalism.WHAT DOES IT MEAN when international bankers are more willing to embrace radical solutions than our politicians and their electors? At both the International Monetary Fund and the ...
    1 week ago
  • Whooping cough vaccine works well despite its imperfections
    Pertussis (whooping cough) is a conundrum. It is a disease that was described hundreds of years ago and the bacteria that causes it (Bordetella pertussis) isolated in 1906. We have had vaccines for about 80 years but this disease is defiant in the face of human immunity. I wanted to ...
    SciBlogsBy Helen Petousis Harris
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Passed
    The Zero Carbon Bill has just passed its third reading, uanimously. In the end, National supported it - but we all know they'll turn around and gut it the moment they regain power. Meanwhile, I guess ACT's David Seymour didn't even bother to show up. I am on record as ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Retailing of vaping products – New NZ Research
    Dr Lindsay Robertson, Dr Jerram Bateman, Professor Janet Hoek Members of the public health community hold divergent views on how access to vaping products or electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) products should be arranged. Some believe ENDS should be as widely available as smoked tobacco and argue for liberal ...
    SciBlogsBy Public Health Expert
    2 weeks ago
  • Justice for Bomber
    When the Police were trying to cover up for the National Party over Dirty Politics, they went all-in with their abuses of power. They illegally search Nicky Hager's house, violating his journalistic privilege and invading his privacy. They unlawfully acquired Hager's bank records. They did the same to left-wing blogger ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Britain’s climate tyranny was unlawful
    Last month, in response to a wave of protests by Extinction Rebellion, the British government purported to ban their protests from the whole of London. It was a significant interference with the freedoms of expression and assembly, and another sign of the country's decline into tyranny. But now, a court ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • More crime from the spies
    Last year, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security reported on significant problems with the intelligence warrant system. While they were unwilling to declare any warrant "irregular" (meaning unlawful) due to the recent law change, they were also not willing to give the system a clean bill of health. Now, they've ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Vaccination, compulsion, and paternalism for the lower orders
    The National Party has come out in support of encouraging greater vaccination uptake. But it sure isn’t the way I’d do it. National’s suggested docking the benefits of those on benefit whose kids aren’t keeping up with their vaccinations. Some in National have suggested extending that to payments under Working ...
    SciBlogsBy Eric Crampton
    2 weeks ago
  • Global Protests Rage On: But Slogans Are Not Plans.
    Feeding The Flames: It is simply not enough to demand an end to “corruption”, or “inequality”, or the overbearing influence of the authorities in Beijing. These are just “lowest common denominator” demands: the sort of slogans that pull people onto the streets. They are not a plan.WHERE’S THE PLAN? Across ...
    2 weeks ago
  • 11,000 employed under Labour
    The labour market statistics have been released, and unemployment has risen to 4.2%. There are 115,000 unemployed - 11,000 fewer than when Labour took office. In that time the minimum wage has gone up by $2 an hour, which shows that the right's fears about increases causing unemployment are simply ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Boycott this democratic fraud
    The Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee has called for submissions on Andrew Little's tyrannical Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) Bill. Normally I encourage participation in the democratic process. I am not doing so in this case. Instead, I encourage all of you to boycott this submissions process, and to post ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Why Mars is cold despite an atmosphere of mostly carbon dioxide
    Climate Explained is a collaboration between The Conversation, Stuff and the New Zealand Science Media Centre to answer your questions about climate change. If you have a question you’d like an expert to answer, please send it to climate.change@stuff.co.nz If tiny concentrations of carbon dioxide can hold enough heat ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Ban private jets
    Aviation is one of the fastest growing sources of greenhouse gas emissions, and within it, one of the fastest sources is elite travel: billionaires flitting around the world in their private jets, spewing excessive pollution into the atmosphere just so they can avoid mixing with us dirty peasants. But in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Untold Suffering
    That's what we face if we don't stop climate change, according to a warning from 11,000 scientists:The world’s people face “untold suffering due to the climate crisis” unless there are major transformations to global society, according to a stark warning from more than 11,000 scientists. “We declare clearly and unequivocally ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The left and violent misogyny
    by Phil Duncan Here’s just a few of the kind of threats issued day in and day out against gender-critical women – feminists, marxists, etc – overwhelmingly by MEN (albeit men identifying as women). “Kill all Terfs”. “Shoot a Terf today”. “All terfs deserve to be shot in the head”. ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and the iPhone
    This is the third of the synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016). The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Unlike the humble cup of coffee and t-shirt that we looked at in ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The freshwater mussel housing crisis: eviction by invasive weeds?
    Tom Moore Traditionally a food source and cutting tool, freshwater mussels/kākahi are now widely valued as water filters that help clean our waterbodies and maintain ecosystem health throughout Aotearoa. The improvement they provide in water quality can make it easier for other animals to live in streams and rivers, as ...
    SciBlogsBy Guest Author
    2 weeks ago
  • Back it up Luxon: endorsing the destructive past is not actually the way forward
    And to think he gave all the potential goodwill away with that moronic, cult-like statement (repeated ad nauseam by many National hardliners) that Key is quite simply “the greatest PM we ever had”… Installation complete: this was nothing ...
    exhALANtBy exhalantblog
    2 weeks ago
  • Good riddance
    National MP and former Conservation Minister Maggie Barry will not seek re-election next year. Good riddance. Because in case anyone has forgotten, barry is a bullying thug who terrorised both public servants and fellow MPs. She is one of the people who makes Parliament a toxic workplace, and our country ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: D-Day
    The Zero Carbon Bill is back in the House today for its second reading. While this isn't the final stage, its still effectively D-Day for the bill. Because today, at around 5pm, is when we're going to find out if it has a majority, whether National will support it or ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Winston is right
    Winston Peters is in court today, suing a bunch of former Minister and civil servants over their pre-election leak of his superannuation repayment. He's characterised the leak as malicious, and said that it is repugnant that his information was passed on to Ministers to use for political advantage. And he's ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Media impartiality
    Sky's economics editor, Ed Conway has posted a Twitter thread responding to a claim that - as far as I can see - Labour never made:
    Are NHS operation cancellations at an all-time high? That's the impression you might have been left with if you read this story from the ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Finish what’s on your plate
    Murray Cox Do I have to finish my favourite genome? That’s an often-asked question. Geneticists generally strive to produce high-quality genomes that sequence every last gene, making full use of the state-of-the-art technologies coming on stream. Sequencing DNA means determining the order of the four chemical building blocks – called ...
    SciBlogsBy Genomics Aotearoa
    2 weeks ago
  • Gainful Employment: A Cautionary Tale.
    Transformative Politics: The idea is to turn each recipient into an unwitting accomplice in their own transformation. From interested observer to hyped-up activist, sharing our messages promiscuously with ‘friends’. You’ll be part of an ever-expanding circulatory system, Jennifer, for the ideas that will win us the election.”JENNIFER SKITTERED her chair ...
    2 weeks ago
  • New Zealand should not fund bigotry
    Two years ago, the Cook Islands government announced that it was planning to join the civilised world and decriminalise consensual homosexual sex between men. Now, they've reversed their position, and decided to criminalise lesbians into the bargain:Two years ago, in a step welcomed by many people including the gay and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

  • Kiwis to have their say on End of Life Choice
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First backs the public to decide on the End of Life Choice Bill via a referendum at the 2020 General Election. The Bill, with New Zealand First’s referendum provision incorporated, passed its final reading in Parliament this evening. New Zealand First Spokesperson for ...
    4 days ago
  • Addressing miscarriages of justice
    Darroch Ball, Spokesperson for Justice New Zealand First is proud that a key Coalition Agreement commitment which will provide for a more transparent and effective criminal justice system has been realised. Legislation to establish the Criminal Cases Review Commission, an independent body focused on identifying and responding to possible miscarriages of ...
    5 days ago
  • Week That Was: Historic action on climate change
    "Today we have made a choice that will leave a legacy... I hope that means that future generations will see that we, in New Zealand, were on the right side of history." - Jacinda Ardern, Third Reading of the Zero Carbon Bill ...
    1 week ago
  • Tax-free deployments for Kiwi troops
    Darroch Ball, New Zealand First List MP A Member’s bill has been proposed that would provide income tax exemptions for all New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel while on operational deployment overseas. The Income Tax (Exemption for Salary or Wages of NZDF Members on Active Deployment) Amendment Bill proposed by New Zealand First ...
    1 week ago
  • A balanced Zero Carbon Bill passed
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, New Zealand First Leader New Zealand First is proud to have brought common sense to the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill, which passed its final reading in Parliament today. Party Leader Rt Hon Winston Peters says months of hard work went into negotiating a balanced ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Paramedics’ status to be recognised
    Jenny Marcroft MP, Spokesperson for Health New Zealand First has listened to calls to recognise paramedics as registered health professionals under the Health Practitioners’ Competence Assurance Act (the Act). Today, the Coalition Government announced plans for paramedics to be registered as health practitioners under the Act, and the establishment of a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Week That Was: 2,000 teachers in two years
    We began the week by commemorating the New Zealand Wars and celebrating a major increase in the number of teachers. Then, we were busy supporting offenders into work and getting our rail back on track after years of underinvestment. And that's just the start! ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Winning an election one conversation at a time
    In October I was sworn in as the Mayor of Lower Hutt. It’s the privilege of my life to serve Hutt people as their Mayor. There is something really special to be able to serve the community where I was raised, and where I live.   ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Closer cooperation with Korean horse racing industry
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Racing Racing Minister Winston Peters met with Korea Racing Authority Chairperson Nak Soon Kim in Seoul today to discuss closer cooperation between the New Zealand and Korean horse racing industries. As part of the visit to the Seoul Racecourse, Mr Peters witnessed ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Otago to lead digital creativity
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing $10 million to establish Otago as the centre of New Zealand’s creative digital industry over the next ten years, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “The initiative will bring us closer to the vision of ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Young Otago students encouraged to take on forestry careers
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF)’s skills and employment programme will help young Otago people into long-term forestry careers, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. Te Ara Mahi will invest $63,000 in the 2020 school year to support eight 17 and 18 ...
    3 weeks ago
  • PGF backing Dunedin’s waterfront ambitions
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) will support local plans to revitalise and stimulate economic development opportunities in Otago, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones has announced. The four Regional Economic Development Ministers have approved an in-principle investment of $19.9 million towards the region’s ...
    3 weeks ago
  • M. Bovis eradication progress welcomed
    Mark Patterson, Spokesperson for Primary Industries New Zealand First is pleased to have received the Technical Advisory Group (TAG) report on the Coalition Government’s Mycoplasma bovis eradication efforts, which shows significant progress in the fight against the disease. New Zealand First Spokesperson for Primary Industries, Mark Patterson, says the report’s findings ...
    3 weeks ago
  • PGF boosts Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sector
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development Hon David Parker, Minister for Trade and Export Growth The Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is investing to support economic growth opportunities for Otago’s engineering and manufacturing sectors, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones and Trade and Export Minister David Parker announced today. Almost $20 million ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Minister Peters discusses Pacific challenges and denuclearisation in Seoul
    Rt Hon Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters and his South Korean counterpart, Kang Kyung-wha, discussed in Seoul today opportunities to work more closely in the Pacific and the situation on the Korean Peninsula. Mr Peters and Minister Kang confirmed New Zealand and the ...
    3 weeks ago
  • PGF supports high speed broadband for marae at Parihaka Pa
    Hon Shane Jones, Minister for Regional Economic Development  Hon Nanaia Mahuta, Minister for Māori Development The three marae in the historic Parihaka Pa complex in Taranaki have been upgraded to high speed broadband with the support of the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones announced today. “Connecting the ...
    3 weeks ago
  • Advancing Pacific Partnerships 2019 launched
    Hon Ron Mark, Minister of Defence Minister of Defence Ron Mark will today launch the Advancing Pacific Partnerships 2019 Defence Assessment  during a speech at Te Papa.  The Assessment outlines how Defence will partner with our Pacific Island neighbours and invest in Pacific regional security architecture. The Plan aligns with the Coalition ...
    3 weeks ago
  • PGF funding could transform Gisborne company into “beacon of employment” in two years
    A new Provincial Growth Fund investment could create about 80 new jobs in Gisborne over the next two years, turning a local small business into a “beacon of employment” in the process. Regional Economic Development Parliamentary Under-Secretary Fletcher Tabuteau said the PGF’s Te Ara Mahi funding stream would provide $1.6m ...
    3 weeks ago

  • Fairer rules for tenants and landlords
    The Government has delivered on its promise to the over one million New Zealanders who now rent to make it fairer and more secure, Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing) Kris Faafoi has announced today. Both renters and landlords will benefit from the suite of practical changes to the Residential ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Food industry asked to step up fight against obesity
         The Government is asking the food industry to step up work to tackle obesity including reducing sugar, fat and salt in their products, better information for consumers, and tighter restrictions on advertising to children. Health Minister David Clark and Food Safety Minister Damien O’Connor have responded to a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago
  • Modern emergency care for Queenstown area
    ew, modern emergency department and outpatient facilities at Queenstown’s Lakes District Hospital mean better emergency care for the growing tourist mecca’s visitors and locals, says Health Minister David Clark. Today Dr Clark officially opened the hospital’s redeveloped Emergency Department and Outpatient facilities. The new facilities include: •    An extended Emergency Department ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Contraception important for New Zealanders
    Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter says today’s release of sexual and reproductive health data reinforces the significance of the Government’s commitment to providing free or very low-cost contraception. The Ministry of Health today published statistics from the Ministry of Health’s 2014/15 Health Survey. “It is important people can make ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • NZ medical staff and measles vaccines going to Samoa
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that at the request of the Samoan Government, New Zealand will be providing further support to Samoa as it faces a worsening measles outbreak. “In response to a request from the people of Samoa, New Zealand is providing 3000 measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago
  • Disability Action Plan 2019 – 2023
    “The new Disability Action Plan 2019–2023 moves us towards the inclusive and accessible New Zealand that this government has committed to,” Minister for Disability Issues Carmel Sepuloni announced today.  “The Action Plan was designed by disabled people, their family and supporters, the disability sector and government agencies. It will ensure ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Joint Statement – Third Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting
    Third Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting 14 November 2019 Joint Statement 1. Defence Ministers Ron Mark and Dr Ng Eng Hen today conducted their third annual Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting in Singapore. 2. Building on the Enhanced Partnership signed between both countries in May this year, this annual meeting ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Sexual Violence Legislation Bill has its first reading
    A Bill to improve the court system’s response to sexual violence has passed its first reading in Parliament today. Justice Minister Andrew Little says the Sexual Violence Legislation Bill will reduce the trauma sexual violence complainants experience in court, while maintaining defendants’ fundamental rights and making sure the trial process ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Streamlined business invoicing a step closer
    Streamlined payment practices are a step closer for Kiwi businesses with the formal launch of New Zealand’s e-Invoicing framework. Small Business Minister Stuart Nash says the government has now established the structure to enable automated and direct data exchange between the accounting systems of buyers and sellers. “The move to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • More frontline biosecurity officers protecting NZ
    Another 51 quarantine officers and four new biosecurity detector dog teams will help protect New Zealand from invasive pests and diseases this summer, says Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor. “The Government is delivering on its commitment to strengthen New Zealand’s biosecurity system and support our valuable primary sector “New Zealand’s flora, fauna ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • NZ space economy worth $1.69 billion
    A new report has found New Zealand’s space sector contributed $1.69 billion to the economy in the last financial year and employs 12,000 people, Minister for Economic Development Phil Twyford announced today. The report by Deloitte was commissioned by the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment and shows New Zealand ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • New Chair for Royal Commission into Abuse
    Judge Coral Shaw has been appointed as the new Chair of the Royal Commission into Historical Abuse in State Care and in the Care of Faith-based Institutions, Internal Affairs Minister Tracey Martin announced today. "Judge Shaw, who is currently one of the inquiry commissioners, is extremely well qualified for the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago
  • Better mental health facilities for Palmerston North
    The Government has confirmed its third major mental health facility upgrade since the Budget, this time at Palmerston North Hospital. The Prime Minister and Health Minister today visited MidCentral DHB to announce that $30 million has been allocated to upgrade its acute mental health facility. It follows earlier announcements in ...
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  • Bowel Screening hits halfway point
    The roll out of the National Bowel Screening Programme has reached the halfway mark, with 10 out of 20 District Health Boards now part of the programme. MidCentral DHB, which covers Palmerston North, Manawatu and surrounding districts, this week became the latest to DHB to offer free bowel screening to ...
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  • More vaccines for meningococcal disease
    The Government welcomes PHARMAC’s decision to fund a vaccine to protect young people from meningococcal disease from 1 December this year. “Meningococcal disease is a serious threat which people at higher risk should be protected from,” says Associate Health Minister Julie Anne Genter. “The combined pharmaceutical budget was increased by ...
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  • Fisheries innovation projects supported
    Groups involved with innovative fisheries research projects are encouraged to apply for government support in the latest funding round from the Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures programme. Fisheries Minister Stuart Nash says the SFF Futures funding is designed to be flexible enough to support small or large projects across a ...
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  • Government fixes culturally arranged marriage visa issue
    The Government has fixed an issue affecting how Immigration New Zealand has processed visa applications for culturally arranged marriages, which will now see a consistent process applied which ensures people with legitimate arranged marriages can visit New Zealand while also preventing any rorting of the system. Earlier this year Immigration ...
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  • Extension for Royal Commission into Mosque attacks
    The Royal Commission into the Attacks on Christchurch Mosques will report back on 30 April 2020 to give it more time to hear submissions and consider information, Internal Affairs Minister Tracey Martin announced today. The Royal Commission was originally scheduled to report back to Government by 10 December 2019. “There has ...
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  • Terrorism and Trade on agenda as Foreign Minister visits the United States
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters will travel to Washington DC today to attend a ministerial meeting focused on defeating ISIS, and to continue pursuing New Zealand’s trade opportunities. Mr Peters will participate in a meeting of Foreign and Defence Ministers from key countries contributing to the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS. ...
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  • Hoiho get extra support alongside 168 community conservation groups backing nature
    The recently crowned Bird of the Year, the hoiho/yellow eyed penguin, is getting a much needed helping hand alongside more than 168 other community conservation projects announced Minister for Conservation Eugenie Sage today. 168 community conservation projects throughout New Zealand are benefiting from $8 million in government grants, including $500,000 ...
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  • New safety measures for modified pistols
    Controls on assault rifles and semi-automatic firearms are to be broadened to include some types of pistols, under changes to a bill currently making its way through Parliament. Police Minister Stuart Nash has tabled a Supplementary Order Paper to the Arms Legislation Bill, which is currently before a Select Committee ...
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  • Minister of Defence to visit Singapore and Thailand
    Minister of Defence Ron Mark will travel to Singapore today to conduct a counterpart visit and to co-chair the third annual Singapore-New Zealand Defence Ministers’ Meeting with his counterpart, Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen. “Singapore is one of our most important defence partners in the region, and our ...
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  • Future secured for Salisbury School
    Nelson’s Salisbury School is to be rebuilt, creating a modern and suitable learning environment for students at the residential special school, Education Minister Chris Hipkins and Associate Education Minister Tracey Martin announced today. The school for girls aged 8-15, in Richmond, was earmarked for closure by National until the process ...
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  • Resource management reform options released
    The panel undertaking a comprehensive review of the Resource Management Act has identified the main issues to be addressed and options for reform and is calling for feedback to inform its final report.  In July the Government announced the comprehensive review of the resource management system, including the RMA - ...
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  • Criminal Cases Review Commission established
    An important safety valve has been added to New Zealand’s criminal justice system with the third reading of the Criminal Cases Review Commission Bill today. The Criminal Cases Review Commission (CCRC) will investigate claimed miscarriages of justice. “We’ve seen how our justice system can very occasionally get things spectacularly wrong, ...
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  • Racing Industry destined to be on-track
    Racing Minister Winston Peters welcomes the tabling of the Racing Industry Transition Agency (RITA) 2019 Annual Report in Parliament today. He says the 2019 Annual Report marks the point when New Zealand’s racing industry’s decline was arrested and a turnaround started. RITA’s 2019 Annual Report recorded an industry net profit ...
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  • New Zealand firefighter support to Queensland
    The New Zealand Government is today sending 21 firefighters to help fight the ongoing catastrophic Australian bushfires. “The fires in Australia are in some of the toughest, most challenging conditions ever,” says Internal Affairs Minister Tracey Martin.  “As of yesterday morning, there were 100 active bushfire-related incidents across Queensland and ...
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  • Supporting all schools to succeed
      More frontline support for schools through a new education agency, as part of a redesigned Ministry of Education More support for principals and school boards including through a new centre of leadership and local leadership advisor roles New independent disputes panels for parents and students Management of school property ...
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  • Reform to support better outcomes for Māori learners and whānau
    The Government’s reform of the Tomorrow’s Schools system is a watershed moment in education and an opportunity to create meaningful change for ākonga Māori and their whānau, Associate Education Minister Kelvin Davis said today. “Last year through Kōrero Mātauranga | Education Conversation, Māori teachers, parents, ākonga, whānau, hapū and iwi ...
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  • Infrastructure pipeline growing
    Infrastructure Minister is welcoming the first of many updated project pipelines from the newly established New Zealand Infrastructure Commission today. The New Zealand Infrastructure Commission, Te Waihanga, has released an expanded pipeline of major capital projects – another crucial step towards delivering better infrastructure outcomes. “The first iteration of the ...
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  • Tighter firearms law to further improve safety
    Tougher gun laws designed to improve public safety through firearms prohibition orders are proposed in a new document released for public input. Police Minister Stuart Nash says firearms prohibition orders (FPOs) would give new powers to Police to ensure high-risk individuals come nowhere near firearms. “We have already prohibited the ...
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    7 days ago
  • New TVNZ chair & directors confirmed
    Andy Coupe has been confirmed as TVNZ’s new Board Chair. “Mr Coupe has strong commercial and capital markets experience and TVNZ has benefited from his technical knowledge of business and finance, as well as his extensive governance experience,” the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media Kris Faafoi said.  Andy ...
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  • Hutt Road cycle path officially opened
    Associate Minister of Transport Julie Anne Genter today officially opened a separated pathway, following the completion of the Kaiwharawhara Stream bridge, which will improve safety for cyclists and pedestrians along Hutt Road.  The $6.8m Hutt Road project provides a separated path for cycling and pedestrians, the replacement of informal parking ...
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  • Announcement of new Ambassador to Russia
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters today announced the appointment of career diplomat Si’alei van Toor as New Zealand’s next Ambassador to Russia. “I’m pleased to appoint Ms van Toor to this position. She brings a wealth of experience to the role having previously served as Senior Trade Adviser to the ...
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  • Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update
    The Treasury’s 2019 Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) will be released on Wednesday December 11, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Coalition Government will publish the 2020 Budget Policy Statement at the same time, outlining the priorities for Budget 2020. Further details on arrangements for the release will ...
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  • Giving a Boost to Kiwi small businesses
    A new initiative to better support small businesses through hands-on mentoring and advice has been launched by the Minister for Small Business. The first event in the Kiwi Business Boost series of regional workshops and online tools has been launched in Wairoa by Stuart Nash. “The Business Boost initiative combines ...
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  • Nearly three quarters of Rolleston connected to UFB
    The latest Quarterly Connectivity Report shows that more and more New Zealanders are moving to Ultra-fast Broadband (UFB), with Rolleston having the highest uptake at 74 per cent, as at the end of September. “This means that nearly three quarters of Rolleston’s households and businesses have moved to ultra-fast services. ...
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  • Historic day for landmark climate change legislation in New Zealand
    The passing of the Climate Change Response (Zero Carbon) Amendment Bill will help ensure a safe planet for our kids and grandkids, the Minister for Climate Change James Shaw said today. The landmark legislation which provides a framework to support New Zealanders to prepare for, and adapt to, the effects ...
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    2 weeks ago
  • Release of Oranga Tamariki Practice Review
    The review of Oranga Tamariki practice around the planned uplift of a Hastings baby in May shows significant failings by the Ministry and that the planned and funded changes to shift from a child crisis service to a proper care and protection service need to be accelerated, Children’s Minister Tracey ...
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  • Minister wishes students success in exams
    Education Minister Chris Hipkins has wished students the best of luck for this year’s NCEA and New Zealand Scholarship exams which start tomorrow. Around 140,000 students will have participated in 119 NCEA and New Zealand Scholarship exams by the end of the exam period on 3 December. “I want to ...
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