Nats’ heartland says asset sales don’t add up

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Last week, TVNZ covered a MYOB poll that showed 50% of small business owners disagreed with asset sales and 21% supported it. That’s 2.5 to 1 of ones of National’s core votes opposed to its flagship policy. They oppose asset sales for a simple reason: the numbers don’t add up. They wouldn’t sell high profit assets to avoid low cost debt in their own companies, so why should the Government?

As I write, Key is on Breakfast. He’s very confident that when he announces the sale will go ahead today, and its a foregone conclusion that he will say that, the Maori Party won’t walk. He says he will be announcing a ‘complex process’ this afternoon, but I doubt it. The only ‘complex process’ I can imagine is that the Government has decided to set up a system of share allocation for affected iwi and hapu. But Key’s comments make that unlikely. He said that he can’t stop anyone from suing to stop the sales and that the Crown’s position remains that no-one ‘owns the water’ suggest he’s expecting an injunction, which he’ll fight with racial divisive language.

[Ha. Petra Bagust actually had the numbers on her for once when she questioned Key on the record emigration to Australia. Made him look like a complete idiot when she had a number ready to shoot down each of his excuses.]

82 comments on “Nats’ heartland says asset sales don’t add up ”

  1. Bored 1

    Its pointless running a poll or asking opinions on this, especially logical ones.

    Key will push this whole thing through because:
    1. The Parnell cowboys on the Round table and similar have bankrolled the National to push through ACT policy….i.e sell it to them. If the price is depressed so much the better.
    2. The banksters from the IMF etc want to lay their grubby mitts on the assets as-well. The are the guys who loan capital to our government, and thereby pull policy levers whether we like it or not. No sale and no more cash…..

    We are dealing with larcenists. The best democracy money can buy.

    • BernyD 1.1

      They’re selling our assets to support a “Foreign Partners” oil agenda
      They harp on about the GFC but no one seems to care enough to fix the GFC
      It’s definitely possible, just requires the civilised world to grow some spine

    • fnjckg 1.2

      apparently the current amerikan democratic(sic) process is the GREATEST ALL-TIME election money will buy
      poor ol Rodders’ manual labouring, shoveling manure, and he soooo wanted to be a baby billionaire
      (well, his supporters did)

      • aerobubble 1.2.1

        Networks, social, electrical, have proven their ability
        to provide solutions, outperform singular efforts of
        sole individuals (who even admit to having stood on giants),
        so its pretty crazed to hear so many in government believe
        in Ann Rands exception-ism, is this why she took government
        handouts? Welfare? and should we really listen to her,
        because like the welfare junkie she was, she hated herself
        for the hypocrisy, do only those on benefit have a voice
        if they themselves hate welfare in all its forms???
        Or is it just too hard for politicians to accept that
        socialism was always, and will always be with us. Why are so
        many Americans Republicans so utterly clueless about
        how their country got rich?

        • fnjckg 1.2.1.1

          took one look, at one page, of Ayn Rand, and the book became a doorstop

        • Draco T Bastard 1.2.1.2

          Or is it just too hard for politicians to accept that socialism was always, and will always be with us.

          They think that they have to pander to the rich else they’ll all run away with the money forgetting that a) the money is ours in the first place and b) we, being a sovereign nation, can print as much as we like.

          Why are so many Americans Republicans so utterly clueless about how their country got rich?

          Because they’ve listened to the lies from the rich about how the rich are wealth creators rather than thinking about it logically and realising that the rich are merely thieves.

    • Olwyn 1.3

      Bored, your comment points to a major reason why a non-committal, equivocating Labour Party makes me nervous. If they win the next election they will be faced with a fait accompli: an empty cupboard and a cart load of debt; the result of the tax cuts, the bail outs, and asset sales made in a depressed market. Under these conditions I cannot see the present lot resisting the pressure to treat us to another round of rogernomics, which would include austerity measures. Their equivocation suggests that they know this; that they do not want to be held to account for broken promises, and hope that triangulation and fluff will conceal the absence of unequivocal commitment.

      • Bored 1.3.1

        Olwyn, I fear there are a majority of us share your prognosis re Labour. As a polity we badly need some bravery from our elected representatives to stand up for something, anything but “managing” a bad lot better than the other side. There is a paucity of vision and a vaccum of purpose in Labour. Such is the strange legacy of Palmers managerial reforms. Maybe that is more damaging than the legacy of Roger.

      • Draco T Bastard 1.3.2

        +1

        Labour aren’t going to rock the boat and so the majority of us will be forced into even more poverty to help prop up the rich. Doesn’t matter which of the two major parties get in but it does matter which of the minor parties do as they can, at least, pull Labour to the left and get it to start rebuilding NZ after the damage done since the 4th Labour government first sold us out.

  2. Glg 2

    If key was honest (yeah, right) when he said he expected Kiwisaver and Maori to buy most of the assets, then perhaps we could sell initially only to New Zealanders and NZ entities, and then if any left over, we could sell balance overseas. But no-one believes that.
    I believe promises have been made to people overseas, and Key will keep that promise.

  3. vto 3

    I kinda suspect that these sales are going to seriously blow up in Key and English’s faces.

    BOOM splatt

  4. headbanger 4

    I have to disagree with the premise of this story. I am a small business owner and have never been one of National’s ‘core votes’.

    National very clearly works only for the 0.1%. Not for small business and not even for medium sized business. National works for the big CEOs and multi-national companies, not people like me – never has done and never will.

    Small business owners are being shafted just as much as much as anyone else, but generally work for less and for longer hours than anyone else. As such they are vulnerable to the National party’s policies which allow big businesses to suck up all of the profits. The Christchurch rebuild is a perfect example – small businesses are falling over left, right and centre as things are ‘left to the market’ which means that big businesses can cream it in.

    Most small business owners are pretty canny and so would never have supported National as they know the score and what National does whenever it gets into power. We also generally do our own figures and know when a set of accounts stinks.

    If you’re looking for National’s core votes look to the low paid workers who are falling for Key’s marketing machine through willful ignorance.

    Beyond the 1% voting in their best interests this is the group who are happily buying in to Key’s version of the ‘American Dream’ where people put up with awful lives in the hope that one day they will make it into the favoured 1%.

    • Rosie 4.1

      Well said headbanger.

    • Lanthanide 4.2

      Tell all that to the car mechanic on a busy roundabout 5 mins from my work that had a bloody great big billboard for National during the election campaign. One of the few national ones I saw in my area (Wigram electorate CHCH).

    • Plan B 4.3

      This is such a good comment, right on the money, National have no interest at all in people who labour- physical, or brain work, employing others, or working for someone etc – either for themselves or with others .
      labour need to connect to all people who work paid or unpaid for them selves or for others, with their brains or bodies- it does not matter these are the people that Labour need to connect with

    • Bored 4.4

      +1 headbanger. I too own / run businesses. There are scenarios that scare me here: if we had hyperinflation the only thing to do would be to close the doors and follow the employees down the road. If we have deflation there will be a shit fight to cut costs (fixed plus wages) in line with diminished cash-flow / profitability. I have never experienced running in such an uncertain economic environment, and the implications this brings.

      I have had some arguments here lately on the priority we give to other issues. When as an employer I cannot be certain of paying my workers a living wage (to house and feed their children etc), other priorities take a distant second place for me.

      • fnjckg 4.4.1

        i often reflect on those employers who Do care, just as u do, about the household and home effects of these ever-increasing rationalizations (bondage)
        best wishes and kind regards,
        j

      • Colonial Viper 4.4.2

        +100 Bored.

      • Rosie 4.4.3

        Thats great Bored. You sound like a thoughtful employer (and your thoughfulness is evident in your posts). I hope my next employer is like you!

      • BM 4.4.4

        Don’t destroy yourself and your business because of some obligation you think you have to fulfil regarding your employees.
        Remember you have to put you and your family first.

    • Colonial Viper 4.5

      headbanger: a Labour Party run by intellectual, policy and union elites will never get small business on side, and will never understand that reaching out to do so is entirely achievable and necessary.

      As you say, every small business owner can read a set of accounts, and understands better than most that if ordinary people in the community are hurting, then local businesses go down the toilet.

  5. Peter 5

    Here’s how I see it.

    The tories will go ahead with asset sales, they have far too much at stake to delay it now. They will try to create a white backlash against Maori on this, running every dog whistle in the book to raise white fears about Maori ownership, hidden taniwhas in the water, and all that.

    I don’t think it will work this time – I think most people are quietly pleased that Maori have had the guts (as they did in 1987 against Treasury Labour) to attempt to stop the sales in court. The question is how long will that support last?

    Shearer could help it big time by stating that he backs Maori to try and stop the sale, and encourages all New Zealanders opposed to the sales to back Maori in court. That would be welcome, but will he do it?

    My fear is that he’ll either tacitly support a white backlash by not saying anything and leaving the Maori case without support from a big party, or worse, actually come out against the Maori case.

    • BernyD 5.1

      Ratified by silence seems to be the norm in NZ, it really leaves a hole in the “Opposition” when it isn’t spoken.

      • Bored 5.1.1

        The “Opposition”? Opposition to what? As you say silence is deafening, and can be very loud in terms of what it states without saying.

    • Bored 5.2

      Key the historic echo of Muldoon?

      • bbfloyd 5.2.1

        minus the conscience….. a perfect fit..

        • Roy 5.2.1.1

          I think another difference is that Muldoon, severely wrongheaded though his policies were, did genuinely care about New Zealand was doing what he thought was right for New Zealand, whereas Key doesn’t give a flying proverbial. Yet another difference is that Muldoon was a lot smarter than Key is [repeat ‘wrongheaded policies’ clause here].

          • Murray Olsen 5.2.1.1.1

            Yep, I think Muldoon saw himself as a kiwi. Key seems himself as an American born here by accident. And to be clear, I couldn’t stand Muldoon.

  6. captain hook 6

    national has become disconnected from its own grass roots and will pay the price.

    • fnjckg 6.1

      synthetic, teased, bleached, cropped, stripped, extended, transplanted (grass) roots

      (if ya sit in the barbers’ chair, u are likely to get a haircut)

  7. Whenever national have been in power there has been a path of destruction that
    has followed,history shows this.
    Key’s insistance with asset sales shows that he has promised our strategic assets
    to his favoured group of investors,it has cost close to $1b in consultants,goldman
    etc and that would be money wasted if it doesn’t go ahead,which would show up
    his pathetic style of money management.
    Key claims he expects to get $7b from our assets,when he is spending $14b on
    non essential roads,um,even i know that in times of austerity you hunker down
    and clamp down on wasteful spending,but hey, key knows the tax payers of nz will
    pay,he has an open chequebook.
    The $72b of debt nz has is not because of the people of the land,its because of the
    ad-hock spending by the bankster and his friends.
    The ‘heartland’ doesn’t matter to key, small business doesn’t matter to key,he has
    bigger fish to fry before he heads back overseas,god willing after the next election
    if there isn’t one before.

  8. infused 8

    Where is this survey?

    I can’t find it.

  9. National’s basic problem is that if they do not proceed with the share sale then they have nothing to show for their attempts to “jump start” the economy.
     
    Mining national parks was ruled out.  Tax cuts have not worked.  There is nothing left, apart from the dream that the cycleway will somehow achieve miracles and get the country back on its feet.
     
    If the share float fails National will be revealed naked and fiddling while Rome burns.
     
    I think they have not choice but to proceed.  The resulting firestorm will give them some political cover.

    • BernyD 9.1

      Accurate summation.
      The only real answer I can see is reduce the number of shares on offer, and maybe try and restrict the shares to the taxpayers that own them, what taxpayers do after that is their call.
      The open market they love so much could live with that.
      It could drag the actual sale out over a period of a decade even
      Making it a much more approachable thing for the Mum and Dad investors

      • Tim 9.1.1

        @ BernyD
        Who exactly ARE these Mum(s) in dead vestas precisely?

        I presume they’re meant to represent Joe and Janine Normal-Average except the Joe and Janines I come across can either only just afford to keep their heads above water, or are keeping any meagre surpluses aside for airfares and freight costs to relocate across the ditch.

        • BernyD 9.1.1.1

          True, it’s not something I was for from day one, the above is a likely outcome as far as I can see

        • tc 9.1.1.2

          The mum and dad vesta’s in remuera, parnell, herne bay, kandallah, kelburn, Fendalton, Redcliffs etc etc…that’s average to the banksta.

    • Bored 9.2

      And the unemployed will swell as the Kiwis return from the closing mines in Oz…….

      • Colonial Viper 9.2.1

        I’ve noticed quite a few getting longer breaks at home on this side of the Tasman before being required to fly back over for work.

        • bbfloyd 9.2.1.1

          Once the refinery for the north west shelf project is finished, there will be tens of thousands of out of work kiwis looking back this way……they would need to open three mines to keep that amount of workers busy……..

          If you squint, you can just see the excremental cloud drifting toward the nearest wind farm….

      • Shona 9.2.2

        Wrong! not all kiwis work in the mines and the mines are still scrambling to get enough staff. Perth is mushrooming, plenty of work in Melbourne and Sydney and in the big country towns of NSW and Victoria. My offspring have never regretted relocating to OZ. And the youngest will be there soon. Fact is it is cheaper to train or be tertiary educated in NZ get a little work experience then get your arse across the ditch. It’s how it was under Muldoon and it is the same now. If it wasn’t for the bush fires that occur with such devastating regularity in Victoria and NSW my partner and I would never have come back to NZ to raise our family. e.g. Starting wage for an expeienced adult kitchen hand in a Perth restaurant ( permanent and fulltime uniform supplied plus meal allowances on top of wage)is $24.90 an hour. Yeah right they’re gonna flock back here in droves . I don’t think!

  10. Steve Wrathall 10

    Oh yes, those infallible polls. Which predicted the Epsom result so accurately.

    • gobsmacked 10.1

      Yes, polls are certainly fallible.

      So next year we’ll have a referendum instead. Problem solved.

  11. Wayne 11

    Over the last several months Nationals support has been basically stable, as has Labours. Some commentators here might think that National only governs for a tiny overseas elite, but 59 National MP’s have to talk to their electors every week. All these electors know that National stands for private enterprise and they also all know that National supports partial privitisation. So trying to characterise National as totally captive to overseas interests in the way so many do here will fail. National is more in touch with what a large proportion of New Zealanders believe than you seem to understand.

    • Um, your blind faith is touching.
       
      How about addressing the issues?
       
      Why sell the power companies when there are outstanding claims and market developments that mean that the price will be firesale?  Why sell Solid Energy when the performance is currently so poor?

      • Lanthanide 11.1.1

        “Why sell Solid Energy when the performance is currently so poor?

        Why keep Solid Energy when the performance is currently so poor?

        • Colonial Viper 11.1.1.1

          Rhetorical?

          Obviously because you don’t make key strategic decisions based on what today’s weather looks like.

      • Draco T Bastard 11.1.2

        Better question: Why sell when doing so will leave NZ worse off?

    • weka 11.2

      Do you sums Wayne. How do you reconcile the numbers of people who voted NACT and the numbers of people who oppose Asset Sales?

    • gobsmacked 11.3

      All these electors know that National stands for private enterprise and they also all know that National supports partial privitisation.

      Are these the same electors who think “John Keys” is Prime Minister? Or the ones who thought “Helen Clarke” was? You know, the ones all over the internet and talkback.

      It would be great to live in such a well informed and engaged electorate. Where is it?

    • Draco T Bastard 11.4

      but 59 National MP’s have to talk to their electors every week.

      Not according to Clare Curran.

      2. I was told that Bill English’s offices in Gore and Balclutha are rarely open. I asked where do people go if they have constituency issues? The response was a resigned “nowhere”

      You really are living in Lala Land if you think that National give a shit about any body but themselves and those richer than them.

  12. Wayne 12

    Weka, that is my point. Polls show that many of Nationals supporters do not like asset sales, yet they keep supporting National. So asset sales can’t be the most important thing to them in deciding who they they support.

    The extreme characterisation of National by some commentators on this site would clearly cut no ice with these supporters. That is why I say many people on this site simply do not understand why National has the appeal that it has.

    Middle New Zealand is not going to be swayed by trying to portray National as some extreme group beholden to a conspiracy of international bankers and investors. None of the National MP’s that voters meet (and who are selected from within their communities at selection meetings attendeded by hundreds of people) fit such an extreme stereotype.

    • Draco T Bastard 12.1

      None of the National MP’s that voters meet (and who are selected from within their communities at selection meetings attendeded by hundreds of people) fit such an extreme stereotype.

      No, it means that they manage to hide that extremism.

  13. captain hook 13

    +1 bored.
    you are right about Palmers managerial reforms.
    Just look at the constitutions he has engineered.
    what a bundle of larfs.
    New Zealand is in danger of being consulted out of existence by managers who are pinheads.

  14. TightyRighty 14

    so we should listen to the views of small business owners when they coincide with your own, but completely ignore them when they don’t on issues like workplace reform and the minimum wage. Have the courage of your convictions. If you are going to abuse a whole sector of society on certain issues, don’t then hold them up as shining examples on others.

    • fatty 14.1

      OK…so people should only agree with other people if there is 100% agreement of all of their beliefs?
      …who did you vote for?

      • TightyRighty 14.1.1

        great comprehension there fatty. Same with you too Bored below. to put it even more simply, it’s not honest to hate people for doing things you believe to be wrong, then using the one thing you might agree with them on to then hold them up as shining examples of why you are right and these people all of a sudden matter.

        extra for Bored. Minimum wage jobs are just that. jobs whose productive output is worth 12.75 an hour. most jobs aren’t like that and won’t attract talented people to fill them if such rates are offered. Your assumption about how i think wages should work is wrong. I work for a small business and it is a fair workplace. the work demands more than a little bit of skill and intelligence. therefore pay is higher. there are small enterprises that aren’t like that however. But thanks for just assuming you know all about how I think about things and dictating them to me as if your omnipotent. Dick

        • Te Reo Putake 14.1.1.1

          “Minimum wage jobs are just that. jobs whose productive output is worth 12.75 an hour. ”

          The Adult Minimum Rate is $13.50, Tighty, do try and keep up. And many jobs paid at that rate are important, skilled and highly profitable to the employer. It’s just that they are mainly performed by women, so bad employers (hello, Ryman Healthcare) feel free to underpay.

          • TightyRighty 14.1.1.1.1

            you just keep telling yourself your skills are worth more than 13.50 an hour.

            So the minimum wage has gone up faster under national than it did under labour? fascinating.

            • Lanthanide 14.1.1.1.1.1

              “So the minimum wage has gone up faster under national than it did under labour? fascinating.”

              That’s what happens when you stoke inflation with a GST rise and have to make up for it by raising the minimum wage.

        • fatty 14.1.1.2

          “great comprehension there fatty”

          I tried my best, but it was a response to an incomprehensible statement.

          “it’s not honest to hate people for doing things you believe to be wrong, then using the one thing you might agree with them on to then hold them up as shining examples”

          The post uses small business owners as an example of people who usually vote for National and who often lean towards economic individual responsibility…yet this group of people are aware that selling assets that we all own is a stupid thing to do. Some small business owners want relaxed employment regulations and lower minimum wage so that their profits are maximised…selling assets is presented as an opportunity for investment by individuals, but it is not.
          Small business owners are used as an example because they subscribe to market reform…do you get it now?

          • Colonial Viper 14.1.1.2.1

            Small business owners are not inherently heartland National, they are simply another societal group that Labour has chosen to leave behind and disconnect with.

        • Draco T Bastard 14.1.1.3

          Minimum wage jobs are just that. jobs whose productive output is worth 12.75 an hour.

          Perhaps you’re not up with the play but, more likely, you’re ignoring the reality.

          Elite City bankers (earning £1 million-plus bonuses) destroy £7 of value for every £1 they create.
          Hospital cleaners create over £10 in value for every £1 they receive in pay.

          How much people are worth is valued incorrectly.

    • Bored 14.2

      TR, I have held democratic socialist principles for years: I see no anomaly between being a small business owner and employer and to adhering to a fair workplace.

      In a race to the bottom (which seems to be what you propose with regard to minimum wage and working conditions) both employers and employees suffer. I quite happily compete with other employers in the market: when they propose to go below minimum wages they are a threat to my business unless I follow (which I wont). To follow your logic you would pay less and less, and in the end nobody who is an employee could pay for anything. Then your business would fail…very clever.

  15. Roy 16

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSS! Well done, the Maori who have forced Key to this. I’m sure I’m not the only Pakeha who is very grateful.

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    Open access notables Glacial isostatic adjustment reduces past and future Arctic subsea permafrost, Creel et al., Nature Communications: Sea-level rise submerges terrestrial permafrost in the Arctic, turning it into subsea permafrost. Subsea permafrost underlies ~ 1.8 million km2 of Arctic continental shelf, with thicknesses in places exceeding 700 m. Sea-level variations over glacial-interglacial cycles control ...
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  • How Many Watts Does a Laptop Use? Understanding Power Consumption and Efficiency
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  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
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  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
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  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    22 hours ago
  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    23 hours ago
  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago
  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago
  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago
  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago
  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
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    1 day ago
  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago
  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago
  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
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    1 day ago
  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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    1 day ago
  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    2 days ago
  • Backbone, revisited
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
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  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
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  • Texas Lessons
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    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago
  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
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    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    3 days ago
  • Apposite Quotations.
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    3 days ago
  • What’s a life worth now?
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Howling at the Moon
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago
  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
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  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
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  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
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    3 days ago
  • Smoke And Mirrors.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
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  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
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    3 days ago
  • State of humanity, 2024
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • The case for cultural connectedness
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
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    4 days ago
  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • True Blue.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
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    5 days ago
  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

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    5 days ago
  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
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    6 days ago
  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago
  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    6 days ago
  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    39 mins ago
  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 hour ago
  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago
  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
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    3 hours ago
  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 hours ago
  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago
  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago
  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago
  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago
  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
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    1 day ago
  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
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    1 day ago
  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
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    1 day ago
  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
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    1 day ago
  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
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    2 days ago
  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
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    2 days ago
  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
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    2 days ago
  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
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  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
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