Never argue immorality with a Tory *

Written By: - Date published: 8:01 am, July 24th, 2020 - 53 comments
Categories: Dirty Politics, Iain Lees-Galloway, jacinda ardern, Judith Collins, uncategorized - Tags: ,

The past couple of days have been rather brutal for us sensitive lefties.  Poto Williams, who is an outstanding MP gave this contribution to Parliament:

The details behind Lees-Galloway’s and Falloon’s demise are now clear.  Last Friday Jacinda Ardern privately told Judith Collins about a disturbing allegation made against Falloon that her office had received and gave Collins time and space to work it out.  By Tuesday Falloon was gone.

That same day Judith Collins received an allegation about an inappropriate relationship that a Minister may have been engaged in and gave details to Jacinda.  Then on Wednesday morning after what appears to be a prompted question from Duncan Garner Judith announced to the country that the allegation had been made.  Then to make sure everyone had heard about it she went on Morning Report on Radio New Zealand and rebroadcast it.

There are two basic differences between the two incidents:

  1. The allegation against Lees-Galloway is that he was engaged in a consensual although illicit affair.  The allegation against Falloon is that he was engaged in behaviour that could be categorised as grooming of a young woman and had also sent offensive sexual material to three other .
  2. Ardern was totally discrete when she received a complaint from the first victim.  Collins broadcast to the nation that she had the allegation of impropriety received not from the other party but from an unnamed third party.

These are pretty big differences.

There are a couple of other comments.  National’s research unit is obviously working well.

But it is a dangerous game because if a tenth of the rumours are correct we could have scandal after scandal all the way to the election.

And can I get into shouty mode?

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORLD WIDE PANDEMIC. YOU (PARLIAMENT AND GOVERNMENT) HAVE DONE REALLY WELL SO FAR BUT WE NEED YOUR MIND TO BE ON THE JOB.  SORT YOUR SHIT OUT.  AND NATIONAL IF YOU THINK THAT THIS GAME PLAYING DIVERSION CRAP IS PROPER AND YOU CAUSE THE BREACH OUR COUNTRY’S BUBBLE WE WILL PUNISH YOU.

This has all of the features of Dirty Politics.

Stephanie Rodgers posted this a few years ago in a post where she described the essence of dirty politics in these terms:

From being a significant piece of investigative journalism which shone a spotlight on the forces which are trying to turn NZ politics into a nasty, back-stabbing, big-money game, the aim [of the right] is that “dirty politics” will enter our lexicon as just another way to say “people in a political debate calling each other names.” In the long run, it’s part of the strategy of turning people off politics so they don’t agitate, don’t organise, don’t vote.

This is why I am sure Collins did not hesitate to release the information. National is totally compromised and held in very low esteem by the electorate. To them the prospect of further scandals do not matter. As long as some of them come from the other parties, preferrably Labour. Then the narrative can shift to “they all do it”.

Ardern’s approach is the right one.  Deal with human issues privately and get on with the job.

As usual her comments are right on the button.

Mark Twain famously once said that you should never argue with an idiot because they will drag you down to their level and win through experience.  The political equivalent is that you should never argue immorality with a tory because they will also drag you down to their level and beat you through experience.

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  1. You_Fool 1
    24 July 2020 at 8:21 am

    Anyone who doesn't think that that question to Judith wasn't staged is blind. The timing, the content, everything about it screams setup. Also, I can't but help hear the unspoken words "as leader of the opposition" when she says she passed it on to Jacinda within an hour of hearing about the allegations.

    I doubt ILG affair was that secret within the halls of power, and I see Sir John Key let the cat out of the bag today in the Herald https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12350553. There are plenty of rumours about all the affairs in parliament, and everyone knows about it. So National knew they were in trouble, and went and got the most known to be true rumour about Labour and dropped that one

    • ScottGN 1.1
      24 July 2020 at 8:33 am

      Labour could have tidied up the ILG situation a bit better though. The only thing keeping the story alive now is the question of whether ministerial expenses were involved. That shouldn’t have been a issue.

      • Nordy 1.1.1
        24 July 2020 at 8:41 am

        Given Ministerial expenses are published on a regular basis, what should Labour have done differently?

        • You_Fool 1.1.1.1
          24 July 2020 at 9:11 am

          It also seems like a media beat up to me. ILG seems to have ensured that the expenses were divided up at the time, and it was all audited. It is now just been double checked for assurance, but that doesn't stop the media harping on about it

          • ScottGN 1.1.1.1.1
            24 July 2020 at 11:54 am

            Of course it’s a media beat up. The whole thing is a media beat up.

            • Unicus 1.1.1.1.1.1
              24 July 2020 at 11:36 pm

              “ The media in New Zealand has exposed itself his election year as nothing more than a defender of the capital interests who own it

              it is with hour doubt:

              “THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE “

        • ScottGN 1.1.1.2
          24 July 2020 at 11:56 am

          Maybe anticipated the question so the PM wasn’t quite so taken aback by it?

    • Enough is Enough 1.2
      24 July 2020 at 10:53 am

      Of course it was set up.

      ILG and his long term affair was hardly a secret in the beltway. As soon as the question was asked by Garner, twitter came to life with the name of two ministers who are well know to have been a bit naughty.

      This was Judith's way of feeding it to those people outside of Wellington.

    • Chris T 1.3
      24 July 2020 at 3:10 pm

      "Anyone who doesn't think that that question to Judith wasn't staged is blind. The timing, the content, everything about it screams setup."

      Soper's question to Ardern about correspondence (Falloon) half-way through a Covid 19 presser didn't exactly scream off the cuff either tbf.

      But then some people can't look at it from both sides, and just see they all do it.

      • Rapunzel 1.3.1
        25 July 2020 at 7:10 am

        It was clearly off Soper's cuff & no one elses – the only other reference to it besides this one here was on a minor poorly moderated blog site. That also happened to be where I had the unfortunate experience to see the offensive, abusive use of the image in question during lockdown around the middle of May. Soper clearly believes NZers should know the type of despicable exchanges with in a certain sector, what also needs to be clearly reported on is the time-frame the previous & current leadership were aware of it.

  2. Tiger Mountain 2
    24 July 2020 at 8:27 am

    Good comments Micky.

    Duncan Garner’s question to Mrs Collins is increasingly being acknowledged as a classic “patsy”–and who supplied the information to Mrs Collins would be interesting too–NZ National’s Parliamentary dirty tricks dept likely knew of ILG’s situation, and it was just a matter of when they deployed it.

    Dirty Politics (similar to Fake News) has the strategic aim of driving down further, public participation in political and civic affairs. There seems a fair amount of sadistic glee by the perpetrators involved too! “pay it back double” to paraphrase Mrs Collins.

    • I Feel Love 2.1
      24 July 2020 at 8:45 am

      Is this "paying back double" though? It's a pretty pathetic "sex scandal", the expenses thing is more of a scandal really, and he's a fekkin idiot if that is the case, but then again maybe it's fairly common them. The PM has set the bar, I hope they clean their act up, all of them. Though as has been noted, cheaters feel a sense of entitlement, "perk of the job", so thinking public money is part of that perk makes some kind of sense.

    • Gabby 2.2
      24 July 2020 at 12:44 pm

      Has any of Druncan's colleagues interviewed him about this?

  3. Tricledrown 3
    24 July 2020 at 8:34 am

    This may not go any further as there is plenty of ammunition politicians are away from their families for long periods of time.

    As Michael Laws said in one of his memoirs that bed hopping was common as he said at a time pre PC.

    I know a high level former political advisor who said it was par for the course and was skiting about the number of of one night stands he had and it was a perk of the job.

  4. Tony Veitch (not etc.) 4
    24 July 2020 at 8:40 am

    "Collins: you know the rule, always reward with Double." page 47 Dirty Politics, Nicky Hager.

    Rumours of Lees-Galloway's little fling had been circulating around for months, and the affair had ended months ago apparently. So to deflect from the absolutely scummy behaviour of one of her MPs, Collins arranged for a convenient 3rd party to send her an email outlining the affair.

    Had she been acting from motives of decency, she would have spoken to Jacinda and that would have been the end of it, at least as far as the Natz were concerned.

    But no, she had to arrange for Garner to ask a patsy question so the whole issue would become public. To hell with Ian L-G's family, Collins wanted utu!

    She is a thoroughly despicable person and frankly, IMO, not fit to be a representative in our parliament.

    • I Feel Love 4.1
      24 July 2020 at 8:51 am

      It hasn't gone unnoticed, Collins behaviour, the Emersons cartoon in the Herald yesterday. And maybe it's deflected Falloon a bit, but Falloons behaviour could still be criminal, it's a whole different story, more serious, and ongoing. And the Heron report, Woodhouse is still there. And, Adern again showed her skills, in dealing with ILG, the media also seem to not be playing ball with Collins, except Garner, but who watches that but narcissists.

  5. Ad 5
    24 July 2020 at 8:56 am

    Ardern should thank Collins for making her September 2020 task far easier.

    The removal of Clark from Health and Lees-Galloway from Workplace and Immigration, and retirement of lower order Labour MPs, gives Ardern more clearout space for assembling the next Cabinet.

    It's been building for a while now, and Ardern keeps her hands clean as ever.

    (of course too early… but nah)

    Fa'afoi, Russel, and Wood do well out of this.

  6. Climaction 6
    24 July 2020 at 8:59 am

    The only thing new and transformative about this government is that they take their mistresses to paris, not pokeno

    • observer 6.1
      24 July 2020 at 9:26 am

      Oh, I think the last lot went a good deal further than Pokeno …

      Rodney Hide, long gone but not forgotten.

    • Tricledrown 6.2
      24 July 2020 at 10:27 am

      Trying to shift the spotlight from a lying sexual harasser under police investigation to consenting adults pathetic.

      The flood gates would open if a tit for that war started all sides will have plenty of skeletons.

      JLR his dalliances were leaked from within National the fallout at the time didn't affect Nationals popularity as this was all consenting adults most regretting the painful experience.

      • I Feel Love 6.2.1
        24 July 2020 at 12:35 pm

        The JLR stuff wasn't all consensual, some unwanted harassment and bullying, still an on going story, regarding the PSA.

        • I Feel Love 6.2.1.1
          24 July 2020 at 12:46 pm

          won't let me link, search "Janie Lee Ross Predator", it's a Newsroom story from 21st "Don't put me back in a room with a predator"

      • Climaction 6.2.2
        24 July 2020 at 1:10 pm

        What? i can't wait for falloon to be dragged through a police investigation. my hope for that is that the police treat the complainants with integrity, understanding and discretion. truly disgusting behaviour from a supposed representative.

        however, posturing and trying to claim the moral high ground on a left / right basis is truly hilarious when you are getting holier than thou about criticism's of ILG and his morality.

        you've also missed the not so sly dig about national ministers having no class when it comes to porking in pokeno

  7. observer 7
    24 July 2020 at 9:43 am

    As others have said, we know what Collins was doing (playbook Republican voter-suppression) and it's had the intended effect in media coverage.

    But for all her tactical game playing, she is still losing. Muller got diverted from talking about a "long term economic plan" into "border bungles", and a fat lot of good it did him. Like Collins now, it won him some instant headlines. But the opportunity cost to National is another matter. If their strength is the economy (i.e. perception not reality) and the “strong team” they sure spend a lot of time not talking about it. Whereas Labour gets to focus on their strength (Covid19 response and Brand Ardern) all the time. And the days tick by …

  8. greywarshark 8
    24 July 2020 at 10:34 am

    You show a pic of Boorish and Judith (Punch and Judy?) and in bringing in the UK situation, think of Prince Andrew, the Queen's third child. He and his 'peers' reached a stage where they felt entitled and normalised their louche behaviour. Their descent epitomises what you say about our politicians Micky in your post:

    ...the prospect of further scandals do not matter. As long as some of them come from the other parties, preferably Labour. Then the narrative can shift to “they all do it”.

    Maybe a confrontational and frank chant for protesters would be –
    'You're a douche if you're louche'.

  9. RedBaronCV 9
    24 July 2020 at 11:23 am

    Don't forget that Judith has played the media too. First the " mental health" smokescreen to cover the real issue then by outing something that is normally ignored so long as there is no associated corruption.

    Some of them won 't be happy to be caught up in those games.

    Plus what do they do with the next affair they find out about or know about? Do they run the ruler over it for possible corruption, out it regardless, out it only if a party leader refers to it, some thing else? Short of interviewing the participants(!) how do they find the relevant timeline to check say expenses. What if there is a fellow journalist involved and maybe that is how stories have been sourced. A minefield really.

    • I Feel Love 9.1
      24 July 2020 at 12:37 pm

      and Herald reporting Falloon lost his phone, idiots.

    • greywarshark 9.2
      24 July 2020 at 3:05 pm

      Corruption. I remember in the UK Profumo had to go because the woman he was having sex with was also sleeping with a Russian. It was a hot topic in the media, someone walked into a shop, maybe selling smoked fish, and quipped about the profumo, and that was the day's joke.

      But the gossip journalists can always make something sour of sweet nothings. This picky little piece about Prince Harry starts snidely:

      Do you hear that sound? That wincingly high-pitched lament drifting across the Atlantic all the way from LA? It’s the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, sitting on the terrace of their Beverly Hills mansion, playing the world’s smallest violins. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/harry-unhappy-now-has-blame/

      It's written for The Telegraph by Celia Walden, daughter of a former Conservative MP. She is the second wife of Piers Morgan, on a British breakfast show, and she has worked for many outlets. I've got to feel sorry for her though. She said something was likely and then it happened and probably became an albatross round her neck.

      On 24 March 2011, Walden wrote a column in The Daily Telegraph expressing her hatred of cyclists. The end of her article read "(…) and of course this lot are so confident on the roads that they will all be plugged into their iPods, calmly humming 'lalalalala' along to Sasha Distel as that articulated lorry indicates left". The article was published in the same week that a cyclist in central London had been killed by a heavy goods vehicle (HGV) turning left into her path.

  10. froggleblocks 10
    24 July 2020 at 11:30 am

    The book should have simply been called "Right-wing Corruption" and then we wouldn't have all this "both sides!" hand-wringing.

    • Sacha 10.1
      24 July 2020 at 11:32 am

      And Hager could have done us all a favour by naming the journos involved rather than hiding them out of misplaced professional loyalty.

  11. Sacha 11
    24 July 2020 at 11:31 am

    Maybe the Nats' long game for installing Collins temporarily as leader is to flush their legacy of dirty politics? If the public can be convinced the one of the dirtiest is clean, then the rest of them can slither away scot-free and the next leader gets a clean slate.

    • tc 11.1
      24 July 2020 at 2:12 pm

      Good time to air the material in Hagers book and remind people what she got up to as a minister. There’s more to her than Oravida c’mon she’s being undersold.

      I see this as a crash or crash through strategy with Matty pulling the dark strings, Jude's day in the sun so to speak playing to her 'strengths'. Risky but it's where the money seems to be these days.

      • Sacha 11.1.1
        24 July 2020 at 2:28 pm

        They'll have a drawerful of counter-stories like Lees-Galloway ready to distract the public with the willing connivance of horserace media.

        • tc 11.1.1.1
          24 July 2020 at 2:52 pm

          taking a punt covid doesn't put the kiwi electorate by sept with scant appetite for that type of leadership.

  12. left_forward 12
    24 July 2020 at 12:17 pm

    There is such desperation in right wind politics right now, not just in our local setting of course. Such a fundamental question is being asked by a wider group of constituents about whether there is any moral position that underpins anything that is being said in the space that used to be occupied by tangible conservative values.

    What human values are actually being represented by the right today?

  13. bwaghorn 13
    24 July 2020 at 12:35 pm

    It's the collateral damage that's got me shaking my head, both these losers have wives and kids who now live with the fact that their men are scummy shits, and every one knows it

    Both should be gone but it needs to be done quietly in future.

  14. Psycho Milt 14
    24 July 2020 at 12:43 pm

    That same day Judith Collins received an allegation about an inappropriate relationship that a Minister may have been engaged in…

    Gosh, I wonder who could have delivered such a conveniently-timed allegation to Ms Collins?

    On a completely unrelated, subject: National sets up 'intelligence unit' to dig up info on political opponents during 2020 election campaign

  15. OnceWasTim 15
    24 July 2020 at 2:28 pm

    "Never argue immorality with a Tory *", and never argue with a very, very centre "leftie", nice-guy lamb going though his midlife crisis in an environment where dirty poltiks has become the Norman Normal. It's apt to upset the applecart, and one or two scalps might be collected, but not necessarily those who're the most deserving.

    "Ultimately", we'll get what we deserve

    • greywarshark 15.1
      24 July 2020 at 2:44 pm

      Can't afford getting carried away by feelings and let go to have a perfect day if not right, must be sanctioned. 'You're gonna reap just what you sow.'

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYEC4TZsy-Y

      • karol121 15.1.2
        24 July 2020 at 3:59 pm

        Rather than sow, I'd find fulfillment in sewing an ensemble of sorts for all of them, which none of them would dear argue with in relation to style, fashion and legitimacy.

        But it wouldn't be a natural birthday suit/suite. And so, in contrast, befitting a mob which appears to demonstrate a seemingly natural talent in relation to both ignorance and arrogance.

  16. karol121 16
    24 July 2020 at 4:05 pm

    What is morality in politics, or anywhere in society for that matter.

    There sure seems to be a whole lot of moralistic crap thrown around a lot though.

    Perhaps we should get ourselves a workable constitution of sorts, instead of a piece of legislation calling itself bill of rights.

    Wouldn't it be a great starting point?

    But then again, I guess we would have to find identity as a nation in order for either to take place, and a will. We have neither.

    On a wider note, in relation to the moral topic;

    Are we NOT bottom feeders?

  17. Maurice 17
    25 July 2020 at 8:08 am

    Surprise!

    … politicians have no clothes …

    "Power corrupts .. and absolute power corrupts absolutely"

    … has never been more apt in wee Kiwiland than it is now under the Covid-19 lockdown levels

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    Laptops have become essential tools for work, entertainment, and communication, offering portability and functionality. However, with rising energy costs and growing environmental concerns, understanding a laptop’s power consumption is more important than ever. So, how many watts does a laptop use? The answer, unfortunately, isn’t straightforward. It depends on several ...
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    1 day ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
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    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 day ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
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    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
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    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
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    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
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    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
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    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
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    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    6 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    8 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    9 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
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    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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