Newshub poll tonight

Written By: - Date published: 2:51 pm, August 9th, 2017 - 93 comments
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You’d better not be teasing me Newshub, or I will be vexed.

93 comments on “Newshub poll tonight”

  1. DoublePlusGood 1

    I dunno, Patrick Gower has been making up ridiculous nonsense all week.

    • r0b 1.1

      Yeah I’m not counting any chickens until Sept 24th.

    • AB 1.2

      Yeah. “Incredibly explosive” in Gower-speak translates to “mildly surprising” in plain English. It has the look of a hyperbolic pimping for ratings

    • popexplosion 1.3

      yeah, how about paying to ask an obvious question… …Turea says she did wrong, so pay for a poll asking whether she was wrong… …!?#$@. it was not news it was spin to distract. like Joyce in QT who says they have not raised taxes that they should be thanked for raising some benefit, sorry, benefits. Two lies. Key raised GST precipitating the need to help those who pays out most of their income living day to day on gst. but no everyone got a benefit hike only single parents.

      So when asking about how rotten the media is just don’t stop at Gower, it’s endemic.

  2. mickysavage 2

    It is only one poll …

    It is the trend that is important …

    The only thing that matters is the election day poll …

    But fingers crossed!

    • Ad 2.1

      Nah. Crush ’em like bugs.

    • Enough is Enough 2.2

      There won’t be a trend in this poll

      There will an almighty bump, similar to the post Orewa bump that National got in ’05 which they have never come back down from.

      I am expecting Labour to be up 10, taking 5 off the Nats and 5 off the Green Party

      • ABS 2.2.1

        WRONG!

        [lprent: Putting you in automatic moderation for a what appears to be an inherent basic stupidity and an inability to engage in debate. ]

      • Dennis Frank 2.2.2

        Two out of three ain’t bad.. ; )

  3. The decrypter 3

    Seems to be ready to wet his pants at any time now.

  4. weka 4

    “You’d better not be teasing me Newshub, or I will be vexed”

    I’m speechless. Did you miss what happened last night? Paddy Gower and Newshub are defining and trying to control the story not reporting it. You’re not being teased, you’re being manipulated.

    • r0b 4.1

      After a lead like that the poll will have some interesting numbers in it. And whatever his other actions I don’t think Gower is making up poll results willy nilly.

      • weka 4.1.1

        There’s a class war on r0b. Gower’s not gunning for you but he is gunning for me and people I care about. Seeing his spin and manipulation being promoted on TS like this is very hard especially because of what happened last night.

        If Labour have a good bump in the polls, or even a moderate one, that’s really good and we can and should use that. But dismissing the bullshit that Gower is doing because at the moment he’s playing the game by being good to Labour is really disappointing. You’ve just come across as saying that shitting on poor people doesn’t matter if the polls are alright. Even if you believed that (which I don’t believe you do), there’s still the issue of what will happen in terms of changing the govt if they manage to pull down the Greens.

        • r0b 4.1.1.1

          There’s a lot of assumptions in there that I don’t want to debate weka, but the one that is worth questioning is that this poll must be bad for the Greens? The tease graphic has Ardern and English on it.

          I for one am hoping that the Greens are going to come out ahead.

          • Union city greens 4.1.1.1.1

            “the one that is worth questioning is that this poll must be bad for the Greens? The tease graphic has Ardern and English on it.”

            Or perhaps not. Maybe the mugshots are the set up to the “incredibly explosive” kicker?

            “I for one am hoping that the Greens are going to come out ahead.”

            Well maybe Reid have polled a thousand solo mums, unemployed, sick and invalids and we find out the greens get to govern alone with a 100% party share of the vote. Heh.

            • weka 4.1.1.1.1.1

              Newshub-Reid Research poll uses mixed methodology of 750 landlines and 250 internet panel with a 3.1% margin of error.

              • Union city greens

                Tongue in cheek more than wishful thinking

                • weka

                  Lol, yeah I got that. I was just pointing to the bit about Reid’s methods and beneficiaries with no landlines.

                  • Union city greens

                    Aye, but it would certainly get all the pearls up and down the country a good clutching lol

                    • Mrs Brillo

                      Watch those stereotypes, pet.
                      I wear pearls and use a landline, and would be delighted if the Greens governed alone! However, in my electorate it makes more sense to vote Labour. That broad church, even room for pearly old me!

                    • Union city greens

                      Good for you. I’ll be tactically voting in my electorate, too.

                      Electorate vote = Head.
                      Party vote = Heart.

                  • JanM

                    It’s not just beneficiaries with no land-lines – an increasing number of people use their number only for going on-line now

          • weka 4.1.1.1.2

            It could go either way with the Greens, but the issue remains. Gower is a key part of the attempts to destabilise the left and his spinning just got an uncritical promotion on The Standard.

            And if the Greens have a dip in the polls, for whatever reason, Gower has just had his propaganda supported and endorsed here. For next time (which the way things are going will be the rest of the week). Mission accomplished.

        • Adrian Thornton 4.1.1.2

          +1 weka
          Fucking A it is class war….a class war Labour has been enabling for 25 years.

          Turea was the only voice that spoke to the poor and disenfranchised in NZ politics, The Greens should have doubled down on this move to the Left and vigorously included the working poor in their narrative, they had (maybe still have?) the golden opportunity to become New Zealand’s only workers party, push hard into that missing million, and pick up probably over 5% right there.

      • Ovid 4.1.2

        The thing about Newshub polls is that they pull out the undecideds, so things can look a bit more extreme than they appear.

        I think given the good press Labour has enjoyed over the past week they should get a bump, but as Brexit and Trump have taught me I am reluctant to think that the Left has anything but a major fight on its hands.

      • Anne 4.1.3

        I was rung last night by Reid Research for Newshub. Didn’t fall into the correct age bracket so don’t know the details of the questions asked. Suspect its a rushed poll to take advantage of the stick ladled out to the Greens and Metiria Turei in particular.

        Regardless of which side people fall on re- the Turei affair, there’s now a vicious war on the Greens in an attempt to destroy them. Saw it coming last week.

        Edit: he’s claiming that Labour members rang him yesterday and told him that “Labour hates the Greens”. It’s balderdash!

    • Sabine 4.2

      lol.

      nah, they would never admit that.

  5. red-blooded 5

    Well, I don’t usually watch 3 News, but I will tonight.

    I know one poll doesn’t mean much, but it would be nice to have a bit of a bounce.

  6. JamieB 6

    Are we not boycotting TV3 anymore? #saintjohn

  7. esoteric pineapples 7

    I predict the polls are going to be a bit bumpy for the next few weeks

  8. Stuart Munro 8

    Gower is not the news.

    Would he falsify a poll? Well he just falsified a story about a Green candidate who accepted a job offer.

    He’s so far beneath contempt his toes are touching Whaleoil.

    • weka 8.1

      Pretty much. The poll will be outside of Gower’s control, but the spin is where he practices his craft and there’s nothing trustworthy there. He’s basically the same as Hooton, although I’m not sure it’s ideological so much as he’s a man child with toys in a sandpit.

      • Cricklewood 8.1.1

        They are very different in my opinion. Hooton is a manevolant force where as Gower is a sensationalist who is as you say a manchild playing with his toys in a bid to influence and inflate his sense of self importance.

        • weka 8.1.1.1

          Where they are the same is that nothing they say or do can be trusted because there’s not way to tell the real from the spin.

    • Ovid 8.2

      I don’t think he’d falsify a poll (although he can definitely spin one), but the media pay for polls to get eyes on screens. So they want everyone aboard the hype train.

      • Stuart Munro 8.2.1

        Pretty easy to poll a Gnat-leaning list of 500+ No-one gets to scrutinize for such chicanery. Sooner or later no checks means no balance.

        • Anne 8.2.1.1

          Interesting comment Stuart Munro. I was rung (see up the thread) and I live in a Nat. saturated part of town.

  9. Sabine 9

    luckily, i don’t have to watch TV3 and its minion.
    i just come back here and you tell me all about it.

  10. bwaghorn 10

    landslide coming in 7 weeks , labour on 42 greens on 8 and top on 5.1 . hopefully

    • McFlock 10.1

      I’d like the govt to be something like 60/40 lab/grn, to get more lefty oomph.

      • Union city greens 10.1.1

        Now that would be the happiest hangover morning after the night before I’ll ever have.

      • bwaghorn 10.1.2

        i like top , have you seen his latest on secure tenancy for renters , ?

        • McFlock 10.1.2.1

          I don’t trust top.
          Even policies I like, I suspect the good will be whittled away in the details that they omit from their policies.

          • Stuart Munro 10.1.2.1.1

            TOP would make a splendid Burkean opposition – they could actually argue policy instead of hiding behind Carter.

          • RedLogix 10.1.2.1.2

            Well I’d hope that if Lab/Grn were coalition partners with TOP you might be a little less suspicious of any resulting legislative program. 🙂

            • McFlock 10.1.2.1.2.1

              Yeah, but then I think top would be largely redundant in that government.

              • RedLogix

                Given the almost complete lack of political commitment to tax reform, CCT, UBI, tenancy security and standards, cannabis decriminalisation from either the Greens or Labour … I’d argue TOP could be a very useful component.

                I know the Greens have a LOT of detailed policy, and much of it overlapping with TOP. But there is no doubt the two parties have emphasized different aspects to the electorate and might bring different mandates to the table.

                Besides looking at Green Party values, listed here:

                https://home.greens.org.nz/values

                I would have hoped party supporters would be more open to the idea of working collaboratively. Especially with regard to Item 7.

                • McFlock

                  I’ve heard that Greens love working collaboratively. Even Labour will do it on occasion.

                  Lots of space between working with people and giving them a seat at the cabinet table.

                  Besides, I’m not sure what you mean by a lack of political commitment if you include tax reform (Labour’s got a big section on that), cannabis (Greens light on that?… puh-lease) tenancy standards (lab and greens)… that leaves CCT (well, the greens have carbon covered, it’s their thing), UBI (well, I’m not entirely convinced on that yet anyway), you really only have tweaks to tenancy security. Fair call.

                  If top has a good idea on that, I’m sure it’ll happen even without them at the table.

                  • RedLogix

                    Well I think there’s more important things happening right now than to quibble with you line by line on that.

                • greywarshark

                  Red Logix why do you have two different coloured icons by your pseudo? Purple at 4.38 and Brown at 5.09 and different shapes.
                  Just wondering. Different computers?

                  • RedLogix

                    Yes. I’m working in multiple locations at the moment.

                    Surprised you noticed …. I was oblivious.

  11. McFlock 11

    “explosive”.

    Option A: National 50%, lab20, grn7, NZ1 14, nats back to governing alone
    Option B: Lab 32, Grn 20, NZ1 12, Nat 35, Labgrn can govern, nats can’t even with NZ1.

    Anything else is a fizzer.

    • weka 11.1

      Matthew Whitehead’s take,

      “Let me guess: It shows a modest overall rise for Labour & Greens when taken together that shows them ahead of National?”

      Which is on par for the recent trend.

      • McFlock 11.1.1

        I suspect that yes, that is the sort of thing Gower would call “explosive”.

        Leaving anyone who took him at face value to deflate like a slow fart.

    • Keepcalmcarryon 11.2

      This, Mcflock.
      Plus, chill out Weka, life goes on.

    • McGrath 11.3

      I’m going to call it as both Labour and National in the 30’s, Greens below 5%, or Winston First in the 20’s. Could even be all three!

      • McFlock 11.3.1

        Given the wee spike after her initial announcement, I don’t think the greens would have fallen 9% in a week.

    • Bearded Git 11.4

      I like B, can I have B daddy? So many comments and none of us have the faintest. Why do we let Gower do this to us?

    • McFlock 11.5

      well, turned out to be a pop but not a fizz…

  12. MG 12

    Farrar is still pushing the Metiria story hard so I suspect that his polling isn’t looking good for the Nats.

  13. Tanz 13

    National in the 30s, yeah right. I don’t think so. Even the Herald thinks Turei should resign, as do a couple of her own MPs. [RL: Deleted smear line. Be more careful]

    • Tanz 13.1

      How was that a smear line? It was simply an opinion…free speech much?

      • lprent 13.1.1

        Obviously I didn’t see it. But is was unlikely to have been expressed as an opinion. RL wouldn’t have landed on it otherwise.

        If I had to guess based on past experience with ‘right’ ‘free-speechers – then it was an opinion expressed as a ‘obvious’ fact. It is the most common delusion by which ‘right’ thinkers fuck up.

        By definition when expressed about someone and containing opinions expressed as false facts AND designed to smear their reputation then that is almost the definition of defamatory.

        If it was (and from RL’s reaction it was), then be glad that the rather mild RL got to it before me. Because I’m the one who is most likely to be in the gun – and I can tell you that your speech is not ‘free’ to me.

        So I’d have slung you off the site after making my opinion quite plain.. In the meantime I suggest you constrain your indignation before my ire rises.

        • Tanz 13.1.1.1

          free speech, when it agrees with the general tone of the thread, that is. The left are great at this, they censor those who don’t agree with their lefty, odd world view.
          Kiwiblog is pretty much an echo chamber and so is this space. Sad that its agree with the group think, or else!

          • lprent 13.1.1.1.1

            Yeah, I have heard that ‘free’ speech before.

            But my comment was about if I’d have had to have suffered the consequences if your comment hadn’t been moderated. And I just happen to notice you didn’t address that at all – so I guess that your answer is effectively that I could have been liable for your foolhardy stupidity.

            So you can whine about free speech all that you like. However your ‘free speech’ is utterly constrained by the extent that you put me in legal liability. I’m not interested in suffering the consequences of your delusions about what ‘free speech should be. If you want to do that, then do it on your own site where you can suffer the unexpected consequences. After all you should take responsibility for your own actions eh?

            Live with it.

  14. ScottGN 14

    I bet it’s Preferred PM numbers rather than party support. English was pretty low anyway and you’d have to assume she’s had a bump.

    • McFlock 14.1

      good point

      • McGrath 14.1.1

        True. There will be a leap for Jacinda in the preferred PM stakes. That’s all but a given now that Andrew Little is out of the picture.

    • AB 14.2

      Strong possibility that one. Preferred PM is a pretty meaningless question anyway because of the incumbency factor. But Paddy is too thick to work that out, so would see it as “explosive”

      • ScottGN 14.2.1

        Actually I think the preferred PM numbers might be pretty useful in showing where party support might be headed. I reckon it will take longer than 1 week for support to peel off National. Winston will be pissed off!

  15. Bill 15

    Only a minimal drop for The Green Party….if any drop at all.

    And that is explosive from the perspective of msm and pundits who have backed Jacinda “all done” Ardern and thrown everything they have at undermining and rubbishing the Green Party vote.

    • AB 15.1

      That’s the explosion I want to see Bill. The on-screen explosion of Paddy’s meagre supply of brain cells as he realises his hatchet job hasn’t worked

  16. ianmac 16

    All depends on WHEN the poll was taken. A week is a long …

  17. infused 17

    Pretty sure Labour will bounce, National will go down, along with the Greens. Just by how much.

    Rinse and repeat until election day.

  18. Bearded Git 18

    MT HAS JUST RESIGNED-terrible shame but the right decision IMHO.

  19. Cricklewood 19

    Shit sounds like Meteria is hoing to resign shortly… sad end…

  20. xanthe 20

    Thats really good news

    now lets see some real talent come forward

  21. Ad 21

    Impressed to see how steady National’s numbers are. Steady at 43%.

    Tio work Labour leaking 8% to be well over 30% now.

    But I think this election is going to be won for about on the head to head debates: Ardern v English. that’s where the Undecideds will gaze.

  22. outofbed 22

    FFS …So Greens down 4.7 % because Of Metiria
    NZF down 3.8 % because of ??
    Fuck me Gower is a pratt

    Greens and NZF down because of Jacinda… As was expected

    • Dennis Frank 22.1

      Indeed possible that, if the Ardern effect pulled equally from NZF & Greens, the negative effect of Metiria’s stand only rates at 1% loss. No obvious Ardern effect on Nats supporters is the big message from this poll that most commentators are not yet mentioning. Encouraging that those wanting a change of govt now combine to significantly out-poll those supporting the status quo tho.

  23. Carolyn_nth 23

    So the NewShub latest method of polling was “shaped by Gower”! Such a boy genius!

    Basically includes 75% responses by landline, and 25% via Internet – cause they can’t afford mobile phone polling. And, while the poll does tend to treat it as a 2 horse race, and really shouldn’t, it really is a 2 horse race, and the poll really doesn’t treat it as a 2 horse race!

    “We just thought that polling was too important to stand still and keep doing things the way we were always doing it,” says Newshub political editor Patrick Gower, who was heavily involved in the shaping of the new polling system. “We’re now using the best of the old with our accurate landline polling, but we’ve been willing to move and take the jump and use the internet to supplement that.”

    While ‘Preferred Prime Minister’ is the main measure used in New Zealand (and continues to be used by Newshub), the poll is based on an unprompted question, whereas the Power Rating asks respondents to rank how the two main leaders are performing overall.
    ….
    While the Power Rating adds another dimension to the political discourse running up to election day, the danger remains that such polling sets up a two-horse race, a dynamic that may make sense in a presidential system, but perhaps less so in New Zealand’s multi-party framework.

    “The reality is, even though it is a mixed system, only two people can be PM and it’s either going to be Little or English. So in that sense, it is a two-horse race,” says Gower.

    “But you’re quite right that the main thing is to look at how all the other parties are going. And we do that, we probably do that better than anyone in terms of giving the picture of them altogether. [For example], we have the Labour and Greens rankings, but also the Labour and Greens vote put together.”

    “That’s the responsibility of me to use the data to show that it’s more than just the leaders [and] to explain the full data set.

    If politics is just a horse race and it’s just polling, I’d be out of it. I’d rather go work for the TAB or Trackside. But thankfully, politics is about a whole lot more interesting things and polling adds to that. It shouldn’t take away from it.”

  24. mosa 24

    Gowers neo liberal poll of polls.

  25. Kate 25

    Jacinda is a bit too much out of control, she talks a lot with passion, but she is impractical. She doesn’t think practically especially about housing which is so much a comprehensive thing that the final price is determined by so many factors. Jacinda always interrupts Bill. She says everything is possible without realising practical problems that contribute and needs to be addressed first.
    I hate her interruption and her lies.

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    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    5 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    6 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    6 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    7 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    7 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    7 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    7 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    1 week ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    1 week ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    1 week ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 weeks ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    2 weeks ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago

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