Nicky Hager: Defence admits raid was located in same area as described in Hit and Run

Written By: - Date published: 5:05 am, March 14th, 2018 - 24 comments
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Tuesday, 13 March 2018, 1:13 pm Press Release: Nicky Hager

Defence Force admits SAS Afghan raid WAS in the same location as events in Hit and Run

The New Zealand Defence Force has admitted that the photographs of an Afghan village shown in the book Hit and Run – the site where six civilians were killed and 15 civilians seriously injured during an NZSAS raid – are indeed the same place where the SAS conducted a raid that night.

When the book Hit and Run was published in March last year, the Chief of Defence Force Tim Keating held a press conference claiming that the book had nothing to do with the New Zealand SAS because the SAS had been in a different place on that date.

In response to questions from reporters, Keating said:

It’s irrefutable that we operated in a different area to the claims of the book” and

it’s not on an operation the NZSAS conducted.”

Understandably, the public and the journalists were left confused about who was telling the truth.

Now, a year later, the Ombudsman has ordered the Defence Force to release more information, including on the subject of whether the photos in the book were the same location where the NZSAS was operating that night (22 August 2010). The Defence Force has finally admitted that the “three photographs in the book are of Tirgiran Village”, the NZDF’s name for the place where the SAS conducted the raid.

Hit and Run co-author Nicky Hager said the Chief of Defence Force Tim Keating had tried to divert attention away from the issue of civilian casualties by claiming the book was not about a raid the SAS had conducted.

“It was simply a diversion. This seems extremely unprofessional behaviour from a senior military officer,” Mr Hager said. “I believe that the impulse to hide the NZDF’s mistakes led the Chief of Defence Force knowingly to mislead the media and the public.”

The NZDF had jumped on an error in two of the book’s illustrations, which marked the location of the raid incorrectly in the roadless mountains. But the rest of the book – the text, the photos and the lists of casualties – was correct. Mr Hager publicly acknowledged the map error and a new edition of the book was published soon after with the illustration errors corrected. But the Defence Force continued to use the map error to say that the whole book was wrong.

The Defence Force released the new information in response to Official Information Act requests by Mr Hager and four others which have been investigated for months by the Ombudsman’s office. Apart from the admission about the photos, very little new information has been provided by the Defence Force. Instead the Defence Force “information pack” presents its alternative version of what happened in Operation Burnham, largely unsupported by any documentation: http://www.nzdf.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/public-docs/2018/op_b_information_pack_v2b.pdf

24 comments on “Nicky Hager: Defence admits raid was located in same area as described in Hit and Run”

  1. “It was simply a diversion. This seems extremely unprofessional behaviour from a senior military officer,” Mr Hager said. “I believe that the impulse to hide the NZDF’s mistakes led the Chief of Defence Force knowingly to mislead the media and the public.”

    …………………………….

    Oh yes, … and we know what that means , don’t we…

    That Mr Mapp , Mr Key , Mr Mateparae , and Mr Keating have quite a few questions to answer regarding Operation Burnham.

    Its always the way ,… on the big issues, things start to come out AFTER the ones involved leave parliament , don’t they.

    • mary_a 1.1

      WILD KATIPO (1) ….
      Wait for it – Key “I don’t recall …!”

      He might not be in Parliament now, but Key must be scrutinised and challenged about the events that took place in Afghanistan on 22 Aug 2010 by the NZDF, as well as the deliberate lies, deception and cover ups that followed!

      Key
      Keating
      Mateparae
      Mapp …
      misled NZ, with the intention to deceive.

      It all happened on Key’s watch!

    • Michelle 1.2

      Wild katipo that is how jerry muppet parae got his position and now where is he another cushy position

  2. Ed 2

    Just before people get their hopes up.

    A quick look at the corporate media’s headlines.

    NZ Herald Nowhere to be seen.
    Stuff “No civilian casualties”
    Newshub Nowhere to be seen.

    The media is owned.
    It is part of the problem.

    Remember this lie?

    • Ed 2.1

      7.20 a.m.
      John Roughan has decided that the integrity of the NZ army is not news.

      Instead this is news.
      “ I was here first’: Woman’s carpark-saving tactic sparks stand-off .”

      We need grassroots media not a media owned by global financial interests.
      We need to take the airwaves back and fund local independent journalists.

    • tracey 2.2

      If they lied about the first thing…

      Another lie supported by the Nat. Government.

  3. tracey 3

    No resignation headline?

    No doorsteping Bridges to account for his Party’s stance at the time. Under “no surprises” policy the then PM must have been told the Truth?

    Was Mark Mitchell Defence Minister or just Shadow Defence? Doorstep him

    • Carolyn_Nth 3.1

      The book was launched in March 2017 – just before John key’s valedictory on the House. He responded to news of new book by saying “Nicky Hager, left wing conspiracy theorist”.

      Mark Mitchell did not become defense minister til a few months later – May 2017 preceded by Gerry Brownlee.

      Jonathon Coleman was defense minister at time of the raid in 2014.

      Does this re-open the question of whether the NZDF, and John key for giving green light on the raid, committed war crimes?

    • Carolyn_Nth 3.2

      Not a headline. And really just not enough news coverage of this. And still there are denials.

      Stuff headline earlier today: Defence Force admits book’s location right, but denies civilian casualties

      And a recent headline form New Shub: Defence Force U-turn: Hit and Run location was accurate

      One of the book’s authors, investigative journalist Jon Stephenson, told Newshub Mr Keating should resign or be fired for either deliberately or inadvertently misleading the public.

      “It was very clear to anyone with half a brain that the incident we were talking about was precisely the same incident the NZDF was involved in.

      “I think it’s a disgrace it’s taken a year to admit what everyone knew. I think [Keating] should either be sacked or resign,” Mr Stephenson told Newshub.

      “I’ve learnt that it’s very difficult to trust anything the NZ Defence Force says on these sensitive matters.”

      So, not a headline, but call in the article for NZDF guy to resign. Of course, it’s too late to call for Key or Mapp to resign – maybe Gerry brownlee?

      • dukeofurl 3.2.1

        General Keating is still the head of the NZDF

        Strangely he seems to be 4 years and 39 days into a ‘3 year term’. Cant see him staying under a new government, cant see him getting another top government job, as from his background he seems to have a lot of links to NZ SAS and US military
        http://www.nzdf.mil.nz/about-us/key-personnel/cdf.htm

        • Exkiwiforces 3.2.1.1

          I think Keating will not get a 3 yr extension after this, but I haven’t got an idea who his replacement will be, but hoping its a Jackie (Navy Officer) or a RNZAF get the gig and refocus on the Sth Pacific and SEA rather than the Sandpit.

  4. Cinny 4

    So the prior government LIED AGAIN. We all knew it when it came out, the deflection, the nothing to see here narrative, the non investigation, the flip flopping.

    Step up please new government, this needs an INDEPENDENT investigation, and please Mr Ron Mark, don’t be biased about it due to your military history, time to do the right thing.

    Heads should roll for this, bill, key and joyce all did a runner, chickens are really coming home to roost.

    Are media asking brownlee questions? They bloody well should…

    Rewind back to June 2017 ODT

    “Foreign Minister Gerry Brownlee said the issue raised by the UN committee was “unfortunately based on factual inaccuracies”.

    “Amnesty International New Zealand executive director Grant Bayldon said the request showed the matter was far from over, despite Prime Minister Bill English’s decision not to hold an inquiry or independent investigation.”

    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/steps-sas-inquiry-un

    NZ Public are sick to freaking death of lying governments and insipid coverups.

    • mary_a 4.1

      Hi Cinny (4) …

      “Foreign Minister Gerry Brownlee said the issue raised by the UN committee was “unfortunately based on factual inaccuracies”.

      What the hell are “factual inaccuracies?” It’s either fact or inaccurate! Brownlee covering his backside, inventing phrases as protection no doubt. How is it possible for any credible media source to publish this sort of BS? NZ media failing in its duty of working as proxy of the people!

      Some tough scrutinising and explaining must be done re … Key, Mapp, Keating, Mateparae, possibly Coleman and Brownlee as well. Regardless who is challenged, the previous National government is accountable for those atrocities against civilians that occurred in the name of Operation Burnham!

      • Tracey 4.1.1

        “Factual innacuracies” are “pretty legal” when you didnt “deliberately lie”

  5. patricia bremner 5

    In the usual style, they have uncovered a “scandal” to distract. Very successfully unfortunately. Going by Headlines.

    Using suggestions in public, made by interested parties, it strikes me. they are trying to remove a successful fundraiser and organiser and discredit him.

    To hear Judith Collins accusing Labour of a “cover up” was amazing, given her friendship with whale oil and co. and that she was stood down from cabinet herself for her too close relationship with Orivida. What makes her a moral compass?

    The local organiser and group running this did not supervise it adequately, or establish adequate rules. Chops to Andrew Kirton for stepping up as overall organiser.

    I think National did not want the public to look at the SAS again, so this incident is in the headlines, rather than the belated admission to lies by those involved in the SAS debacle, which led to civillian deaths. Timing is fortuitous. IMO.

    So any time things are going well, expect a hand grenade of salacious news to distract. There must be a poll due?

  6. savenz 6

    Is lying (or gross cock ups leading to deaths and coverups) by military ok now? We will see what Labour and NZ First do.

  7. Philg 7

    Are the apologist trolls on holiday today? Shuffling the Ministerial responsibilities (and accountability) around like musical chairs was a clever ploy Sir John. Every confidence in our troops.. Can’t remember…. Not on my watch…

  8. Exkiwiforces 8

    So to double post this, but I felt its probably better here instead of over in yesterdays Daily Review.

    Regards, Exkiwiforces

    With the NZSAS being a Force Level unit in the Afghan and as I believe at time it wasn’t under OPCON (operational command) of the NZ National Senior Commander at time, only for Admin and log reasons. So any go or no go operational orders at the Force Level has to be signed off the PM and his or her’s inner circle depending on the task at hand.

    Mr Mapp’s role would’ve to sight the operational order and Initial the Op ORD while at the same time he would be or should’ve been asking questions like legal, possible civilian casualties / deaths, most likely course of action and worst likely course of action by the Assaulting Troops etc. etc. before its given to the PM for the final signing off and again the PM should be asking questions as well.

    Any possible operational taskings etc. should come from the PM and or his or her inner circle, but in saying that there may be the odd time an Op Ord/ Tasking etc. may possibly coming from the Special Forces Advisor attach from within the Force Element Command from within the Operational Theatre for approval to further advance the rough plan into a more formal Op Ord for the final go or no go by the PM.

    There are a lot of checks and balances along the way like legal, Admin and Log, Most likely COA and Worst likely COA. But the Buck starts, stops and Ends with the PM at Force Level Operations.

    Note: When the NZSAS/ Special Forces are use in a Tactical role like in East Timor they would be assigned to the Force Commander or to the Tactical Commander depending on the Task at hand with oversight from the overall National Commander who would then report to someone in back in NZ.

    The NZSAS was in Gan at the time were undertaking Counter Terrorist Ops/ Training the Host Nation in Counter Terrorist Training in Kabul. So the only way the NZSAS could be diverted from its current tasking at the time had to come from the PM under the advice of his Military advisors or SF advisor or by himself and then it should’ve the role of his military advisors etc to pull him into line before things get very untidy. A good example of this happening is when David Large tried to order the NZSAS into Fiji in 1984 Coup. Going in half cock without all the facts is a no- no regardless who’s in charge. I’ve told the odd commander to go and f*** himself or words to that effect when I’ve felt something wasn’t right, dodgy or when you get the seventh or eighth sense that something isn’t quite right.

  9. mosa 9

    https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2018/03/13/so-the-nzdf-lied-to-all-our-faces-about-war-crimes-in-afghanistan-this-unblinking-cretin-must-answer-new-oia-revelations/

    There will never be a full enquiry in to what has happened here Ron Mark will see to that.

    The Greens wont pressure the management over this sadly.

    Bill English and others are exempt from the way they handled and behaved over this atrocity.

    Just truth is all we want.

    This is still our country and kiwis need to remember that.

  10. Tracey 10

    Could National have known in advance the Ombusdmen Report on this was coming out?

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    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
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  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
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  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
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  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
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    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
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  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
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    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
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    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
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  • Not impressed
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
    A Crown Asset? For reasons relating to its own political convenience, the Crown pretends to believe that “No one owns the water.” To say otherwise would re-vivify the promises contained in the Treaty of Waitangi – most particularly those pertaining to the power of the chiefs and their proprietary rights ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
    Joining The Fight: Stevan Eldred-Grigg's argument for New Zealand staying out of the Second World War fails not only on the hard-headed grounds of preserving the country’s strategic and economic interests; and not just on the soft-hearted grounds of duty and loyalty to the nation that had given New Zealand ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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