Now who’s the f*ckwit?

Written By: - Date published: 1:31 pm, November 12th, 2010 - 85 comments
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Pansy Wong has been stood down resigned over her abuse of her ministerial status and perks for her husband’s private business dealings. I expected that Key act ‘relaxed’ and hope for this blow over. That he hasn’t indicates they’ve uncovered something more.

Stuff reports: “It is understood the investigation by Key’s office brought to light fresh information about Wong’s travel.”Will we find out what it is, or will Key pull another Richard Worth on us?

Updates will come, Key is speaking in Japan on the matter.

It looks like Pete Hodgson and Labour have been completely vindicated. He also handled the timing of this very well. Rumours about Wong’s travels have been circulating since last year but they were never going to get a fair hearing during the government’s honeymoon period.

Questions will have to be asked about how the Minister of Spider Petting lazy attitude to managing the government lets this corruption go on until the evidence is brought to the public by the Opposition.

I have to say I can’t think of anyone who will be sad to see the back of Wong as a minister. She was completely useless and a disgrace both in Parliament and as an advocate for women.

85 comments on “Now who’s the f*ckwit?”

  1. She has also apparently committed fraud. Every time she claimed that travel discount when she shouldn’t have, she misused a document for pecuniary advantage. Its no different from benefit fraud, and people get dragged to court for that. We can’t apply a lower standard to Ministers.

    • bobo 1.1

      Pathetic benefit bash diversion tactics…. I wonder if GC will retract his grumpy f*#kwit comment. I will miss watching Pansy’s long winded ramblings in the house and so will labour.

    • The following is a comment from Wong on Stuff:

      “This action follows questions about use of my parliamentary travel entitlement to pay for my husband to travel within China at the end of 2008.

      Although the trip was a holiday, my husband did conduct some business. Further, I am not able at this point to give the Prime Minister an assurance that this is a one-off situation.

      I can hear those OIA applications being filed as we speak …

      • Idiot/Savant 1.2.1

        I can hear those OIA applications being filed as we speak …

        Nope. This is about parliamentary, rather than Ministerial, travel. And Parliament is exempt from the OIA. Another example of how self-interested politicians protect themselves.

        I need a patsy, BTW, to lodge a criminal complaint with police about Wong’s behaviour. Any takers?

    • I/S – not only is it no different from benefit fraud, it is no different from Parliamentary Travel Fraud. Given that both David Butcher (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=125344) and Roger McClay (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10668683) have been convicted for using Parliamentary Travel to fund private business, it is hard to see how Wong can avoid prosecution.

    • Jim Nald 1.4

      I read:

      “As a 14-year veteran of Parliament, Wong qualifies for the gold-plated travel perk scheme – including a lifetime entitlement to subsidised travel for herself and her spouse.”

      As taxpayers who have contributed to the salaries, perks, lifetime entitlements, etc of our honourable ministers, we should like to see a new rule introduced to lift standards by Squeeky Clean, Straight and Ethical Key.

      If the member is found to have repeatedly abused her ministerial status and perks, she will lose her lifetime entitlement.

      • What a sterling idea, Jim. A Private Members Bill from Labour proposing such a regime would be a brilliant way to show they’ve at least learned the lessons, even if National clearly haven’t.

        I was shocked to realise Wong has been idling her way through 14 years of taxpayer-funded lavishness without achieving anything (aside from semaphoring ‘vote for us, we even like that rare species, the incompetent Asian’, to the Asian community, the way Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi also does, and Ashraf Choudhary does for Labour).

        That’s one advantage of being a serial non-achiever I guess… people forget you’re there, bleeding them dry like a tick.

    • Reading her apology bought tears to my eyes. This poor woman who had such a hard life in Hong Kong but overcame it by her hard work . Just like Key who was bought up by his poor solo mum , my heart bleeds for them .
      They have no idea how the majority of working people live . They are a hypocritical lot of sleaze bags. However after reading Wong’s explanation somebody should donate a couple of violins to her and Key.

      • Jim Nald 1.5.1

        14 years as MP?
        Not 1, not 4, but 14!
        Pray, tell me, what has she been doing?
        9 years on the opposition benches and ….
        Busy with her electorate (oh, she was list till recently).
        Advocacy for women’s affairs (oh, kiss my bras).
        Policy development for ethnic affairs (oh, let’s fly out and do some field work).

  2. The Voice of Reason 2

    What fantastic work from Pete Hodgson and the rest of the Labour caucus! The shine is really coming off Team Key. Who’s next, eh? Tolley’s folly suggests it should be her, but she’s just incompetent. Nope, keep following the money, there will be more of these creeps playing fast and loose with the rules. And as Treetop pointed out on the earlier thread, if Lockjaw Smirk had got his way on the flights perk, this might well have been buried.

  3. Richard 3

    So that’s three ministerial “resignations”. Have I missed out any?
    Worth, Heatley, & Wong. Sounds like a 70’s prog rock group.

    • Bright Red 3.1

      the music would be awful.

      Heatley, with that permanent terrified but helpless expression, would be lead singer I’m guessing in the style of Ian Curtis.

      • artist not on the dole 3.1.1

        i know you jest but in all seriousness, please don’t compare a great artist to these common criminals

      • Daveosaurus 3.1.2

        … Actually, the thought of Ian Curtis singing for a prog-rock group… it could be awesome, it could be terrible, but it couldn’t be uninteresting.

        • RobertM 3.1.2.1

          I was always an Echo and Ian McCulloch fan. I don’t know why he gets such a bad press from Alan Jones. The Manchester sound was uninteresting. Curtis is too much the classic working class tragedy, wasted talent, the disastrous early marriage. I prefer the militarism of the Bunnymen and their inversion of the Doors.
          On Pansy Wong , in my humble opinion its just Chinese bashing and Key should have shown the same leniency as Lockwood usually does. If anything Pansy was not PC and could say things no other MP could get away with.
          Well its essential Mellisa stay high on the list if the Nats can make any serious claim to multiculturalism.

      • IrishBill 3.1.3

        Don’t be using Ian Curtis and these people in the same sentence,

    • bobo 3.2

      I heard Creme Brulee might be getting back together 🙂

    • ghostwhowalksnz 3.3

      It should have been a 60s quartet- Worth English Heatley and Wong

  4. insider 4

    Looks like Wong resigned over travel costs. Hodgson never asked about them. How can he claim credit? Given the attention on such it seems an obvious question. Maybe he was letting it drift out?

    • The Voice of Reason 4.1

      Well, I’m not sure that Hodgson is claiming credit, but I’m happy to assign it to him! It looks to me like Hodgson used the lawyers trick of asking one question to get another answered. Or to put it another way, he let Key have just anough information that he could be relied on to react defensively and give Wong full support and therefore have no option but sacrifice her when the full story came out.

      I really think Hodgson has pulled off the greatest stitch up in recent parliamentary history. And in less than a week from go to whoa. Brilliant!

      • mickysavage 4.1.1

        I agree that this is way more effective the way it has worked out.

        Hodgson gets roundly abused and then gets handed Wong’s head on a platter within a couple of days.

        And Key goes from staunchly defending his minister to meekly accepting her resignation within the same period.

      • insider 4.1.2

        Actually in retrospect it is a stupid question; he’s a politician, of course he’s going to claim credit! 🙂

      • Jim Nald 4.1.3

        A very big thank you for keeping them honest, Pete Hodgson.
        I’ve said it before* and will say it again: thanks, ‘fork wit’.

        */captain-potty-mouth/#comment-269357

      • ghostwhowalksnz 4.1.4

        And a week before the Mana byelection ?

        Taking the gloss off Keys APEC visit gets bonus brownies

  5. SHG 5

    If Pete Hodgson actually played it this way – rather than this being something that came to light as a result of Hodgson being a fuckwit – then kudos to him 🙂

  6. Jim Nald 6

    And Double Dipton was shooting from his mouth during question time a couple of days ago, accusing Pete Hodgson of being ‘disgraceful’. I thought Pete’s questions might have touched a rotting rorting nerve.

    Will DD retract? Come on, DD, you know you don’t want to.

    • Jim Nald 6.1

      Why did Bill English not do his homework properly before abusing another member of Parliament and the other side of the House? Who was really being disgraceful? Who should now not be believed? And who should be ashamed?

      This is now available:

      Hon BILL ENGLISH: .. The fact is that the member’s allegations are disgraceful, and they have impugned a member of Parliament in a way that is absolutely unnecessary and unjustified. It is more from the nasty, smearing Labour Party members, who believe that if they keep saying it eventually someone will believe it. The member should be ashamed of himself.
      (http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/Business/QOA/1/2/6/49HansQ_20101110_00000010-10-Ministers-Compliance-with-Cabinet-Manual.htm)

      p.s. I am not suggesting that Pete should press the point. But people need to be aware of the blatherings that come out in response to questions.

  7. felix 7

    She’d get booted out of some political parties for this, wouldn’t she?

    • The Voice of Reason 7.1

      Probably depends on whether the passport she used on the trip is in her name and not that of a dead baby.

    • Bright Red 7.2

      in the first presser from Pansy Wong the title was

      “Minister to resign from Parliament”

      3 minutes later

      “CCN – Minister to resign Portfolios”

      I assume it was just a stuff up. Pretty funny.

      Or I wonder if she misinterpreted the orders from the 9th floor?

    • Chris Carter didn’t get booted out of Labour for being a trougher Felix. He got booted out for undermining the leader. As a National voter most of the time since 1975, I am pleased to see Pansy Wong resign; a rort is a rort regardless of who commits it.

  8. higherstandard 8

    Now who’s the f*ckwit?

    Seems to me it’s the long suffering public yet again this vile pile of shit has rorted the taxpayer but the absurd thing is if it had been a trip up there for pleasure with pansy there’d be no case to answer.

    [deleted] , we’d save a heap of cash and the world wouldn’t come to an end.

    [Calls for violence will be deleted. If you really must return to commenting here HS you need to lift your game. — r0b]

  9. Gotham 9

    It’s almost a shame that Wong wasn’t stood down earlier from her ministerial role on the simple fact that she is totally incompetent. Ever heard her answering a question in the House?? Almost farcial. Goes to show how totally uninterested in women’s issues this government is, to have such a useless person holding the portfolio.

    Now, who’s going to pick it up I wonder?

    • QoT 9.1

      Well that’s the point. I think even a National party with vague amounts of depth in their talent chart would still have given Women’s Affairs and Ethnic Affairs to Wong, just to establish that they’re not immigrant-loving femin@zis like Labour.

      • Treetop 9.1.1

        I think that Wong was totally unsuitable to be the Minister of Women’s Affairs as she did not remedy the issue of her husband booking air fares to go on a business trip. Were I in her position I would have stood up to my partner. Is there a cultural reason for her to not have stood up to her partner regarding him making the travel booking/s?

  10. bobo 10

    Seems Wong wasted no time in rorting if this happened in 2008 just like Worth, was the trip at the time actually a private holiday or ministerial trip to China ? Would we have known about this without parliamentary expenses being opened up?

    • insider 10.1

      bobo

      I think the travel benefit is available to all MPs not just ministers. She’s been in Parliament since 96.

      • bobo 10.1.1

        I guess its more than just the actual travel expenses with a MP using their time to pursue private business matters on public money. Wow shes been there since 96 only been a electorate mp since 2007?

        http://www.pansywong.co.nz/
        her pic looks like shes been caught red handed 🙂 Naughty Pansy

  11. tc 11

    I’ll miss Pansy and her intelligent debating and razor sharp humour……wonder which superstar the nats have ready and waiting to go in her high profile portfolio…..how about that bastion of equality and reason Hekia Parata, having seen her on backbenchers she’d be great, intelligent, humorous and best of all thinks Shonkey is the messiah.

    • Jim Nald 11.1

      Melissa Lee, with her huge asset of formidable intellect, deep sensitivity and wisdom, would be ideal to be parachuted into the Women & Ethnic Affairs portfolios.
      Pansy, who featured in the National campaign ad with Melissa, should support Melissa.

    • pollywog 11.2

      wonder which superstar the nats have ready and waiting to go in her high profile portfolio

      I’d give Big Tau the job just for a laugh…

      • Gotham 11.2.1

        Just read that Georgina Te Heu Heu is going to stand in to Wong’s ministerial role. She has more cred with me than most Nats – after standing aside following Brash’s Orewa speech.

      • Richard 11.2.2

        Stranger things have happened……remember when Gerry Brownlee was the Maori Affairs Spokesman when the Nats were in opposition?

        • ghostwhowalksnz 11.2.2.1

          Thats because he was a teacher of Maori ( and woodwork) at St Bedes College.
          Not sure he was qualified for either

        • Jim Nald 11.2.2.2

          Umm umm umm … how about resorting to the sophistication & expert safe hands of Tony Ryall?

          As bonus, the Women’s & Ethnic Affairs portfolios should, for formal or ceremonial occasions, bring some interesting additions to his wardrobe.

      • ak 11.2.3

        (Big Tau! Luvit Poll, ta – right up there with Mauler Bennett)

    • Bright Red 11.3

      actually, they might try that – to give her a last minute publicity boost.

      assuming the new person gets both Wong’s portfolios – women’s and ethnic affairs – and you want a minister to represent those groups, the only other non-pakeha woman in National who isn’t already a minister is Melissa Lee

      • toad 11.3.1

        Now, that would be fun! You are joking. Surely? Aren’t you, BR?

        Mind you, the cunning plan might be that elevating Lee to Cabinet would make Tolley look competent.

  12. Lanthanide 12

    Oh well, looks like my ignorance of Wong’s ministerial-ship has corrected itself naturally 🙂

  13. Gotham 13

    Aside from the overseas rebate, all MP spouses are ‘entitled’ to unlimited ‘free’ domestic travel for any reason other than private business purposes.

    From what I understand, the Greens are the only party to have their own guideline that spouses only travel with their MP partner, when the partner is on official parliamentary business. But, may be wrong about this – anyone know if Labour instructs their MPs in a similar way??

    I bet if someone was to look into whether domestic travel for spouses was never used for private business interests all hell would break loose…

  14. Irascible 14

    I understand the next question in the House as a followup to Pansy’s resignation wil be to the Minister of Tourism: ” Will the Minister of Tourism be advising the PM to take a long holiday in Hawaii to be perfectly relaxed about Ms Wong’s admission of corrupt behaviour as a Cabinet Minister and will the Minister of Tourism be offering the PM rent free use of his residence in Hawaii?”
    The PM is expected to accept the offer but the MoTourism will be unable to answer the question as he is not presently in the country.

  15. Vicky32 15

    I had heard something about it on the radio this morning, but not that she had resigned her portfolios. Great news!
    Deb

  16. Anne 16

    Radio NZ political editor, Brent Edwards (think it was Edwards) is suggesting there may be more to come on this issue and that Wong could be forced to resign from parliament. That makes for an interesting scenario. The Nats will try hard to drag things out for as long as possible so that they don’t have to call a by-election. It would almost certainly see a drop in National’s Botany majority.

    • artist not on the dole 16.1

      “It would almost certainly see a drop in National’s Botany majority.”

      shouldn’t that be National’s Mushroom majority
      the one where they keep everyone in the dark and feed them bulls#!t

    • Vicky32 16.2

      Interesting! It’s jolly well about time that one of *them* is out of Parliament… not just out of their portfolio…
      Deb

    • Carol 16.3

      NBR is also reporting that Hodgson is hinting at more to come. Goff on TV3 news said he thought there was a possibibilty of Wong having to resign from parliament altogether. I think he was suggesting there might be legal action against Wong.

      http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/hodgson-suggests-more-wong-revelations-ahead-133151

      Mr Hodgson said it was not for him to pursue the matter further, but suggested that the police or SFO might take an interest in the affair.

      When pressed by reporters, Mr Hodgson referred to Labour MP David Butcher, who was convicted in 1999 for fraudulently claiming MP’s airfare rebates.

      But also on TV3, people in the Botany electorate said Wong had been a hard-working electorate MP, and was well regarded prior to the admission of guilt. I also got the impression a few years back, when Wong was an opposition MP, that she seemed to engage with and represent south east Asian people well. ie speaking for them on various issues.

      She hasn’t impressed me as a minister.

  17. Anne 17

    Hi Gina
    Excellent comments but think this might be the wrong post. 😉

    [Gina’s comment deleted at her request — r0b]

  18. Gina 18

    Hi Anne. Yep I have no idea how that happened. I tried to post it about 5 times to the “High pay” thread with no luck then the page jumped and it somehow ended up here. Tried to post a comment several minutes ago but couldn’t get a anti spam word to appear. My mobile broadband is crap right now so I’ll point the finger at Vodafone.

    • Anne 18.1

      Yes, I’ve had a few problems in the past too. I blamed it on Lynn (lprent) playing around with the site and messing things up in the process. 😛

  19. Hilary 19

    Jim McLay was once National\’s Minister for Women’s Affairs so anything is possible. I think Pansy Wong also deputises for Tariana in her Disability Issues portfolio. They could ask Rodney to do that now since he’s bizarrely become minister of special education.

  20. Irascible 20

    As a Botany resident I have NOT been impressed with Wong as our local MP. She is distant, unapproachable and incomprehensible. One of her first acts as an MP was to tell the Howick College prize giving that National had no intention of implementing National Standards as there were excellent reporting systems already in place. That statement was quickly revealed to be nothing more than a deliberate mis-speak in order to curry favour with the audience.
    Hard-working for the electorate?? A qualified Yes, if you live on the Howick peninsula and a definite NO if you live in the South Auckland end of Botany.
    The sooner she goes the better for Botany and the country.

  21. ianmac 21

    Just arrived back and catching up. Has this been said?
    If a beneficiary cheats and gets money by abusing the system he/she is prosecuted in court for obtaining money for pecuniary advantage , or something.
    The Speaker’s statement was that Pansy Wong has promised to repay any money that she was not entitled to. It did not say that prosecution would follow if there is a case to answer! (Phillip Field?)
    Please don’t tell me that if she repays the money, that will be the end of the matter. Please?

    • bobo 21.1

      Hasn’t it always been the case with politicians or the “elite” in general? They lose their “public standing” as punishment where the common kiwi serf gets jail time.. Mr “I do a lot of work for charity” Roger McClay is a good example.

      So if I shoplift a plasma tv at Harvey Norman and get caught by in store security, just say “fair cop” and hand it back and walk out the store, no harm done aye.. or say your allblacks management and autograph their shirt… and have the hdmi cable thrown in..

  22. roblyn 22

    This is quickly turning in to a “hand in till” government.

  23. Drakula 23

    I think that Pate Hodgeson should be put on the New Years Honours List for a knight hood!!!!

    What am I saying!!!!!! No No not the honours list: that is is just a gallery of rogues!!!!!!!

    If he is made a knight that will absolutely ruin his credibility with the left!!!!!!!

    I will Have to think of another reward; Any suggestions out there?

  24. tea 24

    Corruption in our cabinet!

  25. Pascal's bookie 25

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10687306

    In 2008, Mrs Wong’s husband, Sammy Wong, helped broker a deal between Mr Preest and Auckland businessman Terry Yang which involved moving Mr Preest’s hovercraft company to China. Mr Wong is a shareholder in the joint venture. But the deal went sour and Mr Preest is suing Mr Yang in China.

    Mr Wong told the Herald that in hindsight it was foolish to involve his wife – the only reason she came to China to visit the company was because he spent so much time there.

    But Mr Preest said yesterday that Mrs Wong’s involvement was far greater than just witnessing official documents related to the deal.

    He said she visited the company twice, and made it clear she was there as a Government minister.

    Wonder if the PM’s office spoke to Mr Preest before making the official announcement re fuckwittery.

  26. Frank Macskasy 26

    If I may…

    I’m no friend of National. To me, this is the most lack-lustre, do-nothing, unimaginative, and pointless government we’ve had since… since… well actually, I can’t think since when.

    To me, the Key administration fails not because of what they’re doing wrong, per se, but what they are not doing well. Point in case; unemployment.

    Unemployment isn’t “just” 164,000 of our fellow New Zealanders out of work. It has flow-on effects much greater on our economy, society, and touches practically every facet of our country.

    John Key’s pet-project, the cycleway, was his ambitious answer to addressing – in part – our high unemployment. Well, Mr Key, if you or any of your staff are reading this, here is a question for you;

    * If the cycleway was a means by which we could reduce a small part of our unemployment – why on Earth have you not applied the principle on a grander scale? Why not provide more than just 70 jobs by instigating projects that could “soak up”, not 70, not seven hundred, but perhaps SEVEN THOUSAND unemployed?

    We have a waiting list of thousands of people – families – on NZ Housing’s books waiting for a home.

    Let’s “connect the dots” on this one: 164,000 unemployed plus a waiting list of thousands for housing plus a stagnant economy.

    If it’s good enough to have a cycleway built, at tax-payers’ expense (and I’m not agin it), then why not for heaven’s sake expand the concept on a bigger scale?

    Initiate a crash building programme. Build ten thousand state housing “units” (homes, to us lesser mortals). Employ thousands of people currently out of work. Train new apprentices. And get the economy moving again.

    Because you sure as hell won’t do it with tax cuts for the highly-paid. The stats are pretty clear on that.

    If Canterbury’s economy is going to grow as a result of rebuilding ‘quake-damaged homes, imagine what the country could experience if we implemented a building-programme country-wide?

    To be honest, I’m not overly bothered by Ms Wong’s mis-use of taxpayer’s money.

    Neither am I terribly fussed at Warner Bros extorting a further $15 million out of our wallets to pay for Jackson’s toys.

    What does concern me is that John Key has wasted three years doing nothing to alleviate the worst recession since… since… I do know that one: the Depression.

    Mr Key, in the final analysis, voters will judge you next year as to what you’ve achieved. And if the best you can offer is (a) give more money to the rich (b) make it easier to cycle from Bluff to Cape Reinga – then I wouldn’t be holding out much for your chances for re-election.

    C’mon, John – inspire us!!!

    • Jim Nald 26.1

      Dear Mr Frank Macskasy

      Thank you very much for your message which has been passed to the Prime Minister.

      In the meantime, we have a response for you:

      *Fart*

      Yours sincerely
      Need-to-change pants

      captcha: noisy (!!!)

    • Treetop 26.2

      Oh Frank, you are expecting far too much for the government to employ the unemployed to build housing to house the most vulnerable and needy. Is there a difference between Labour and National in not suitably housing people e.g. one person being allowed to live in a three bedroom home and a family of six living in a two bedroom home? The biggest waiting list in my area is for single people.

      There is also the unfairness of people being housed by Housing NZ being $8,000 better off a year and those recieving the accommodation supplement being $4,000 better off a year than those not recieving any housing assistance.

      Wealthy people do not need housing assistance and the unwealthy are off the housing radar as far as National is concerned.

    • handle 26.3

      But Frank, that would depress house prices! It would be morally wrong to impede the wealth of National/Act voters or the freedom of the market to do nothing.

      Of course, handing over billions to construction companies to build motorways for trucks while creating hardly any jobs is another matter altogether. Campaign donation, you say?

  27. Herodotus 27

    Eddie, there should be another by-election if Pansy is found to have been a recidifice offender (I am sure that she will be found out to be one), perhaps the IRD should also investigate to see that there has been no double dipping regarding Mr Wongs business expense claims that may have also been covered by the state. But the difference is that she is an electroate MP and so could hang around with delay tactics, or even resign from Nat and operate as an independant e.g. CC

    But the The Stranglers could do a best of to describe this:
    Hanging Around- their passing comment is very 70’s leftish perspecitive 😉
    No More Heroes
    Nice n Sleazy
    Walk on By
    Something Better Change

  28. Irascible 28

    Has Key begun washing his hands of Pansy, softening her up to fall fully on her sword and resign from Parliament?
    TV3 certainly suggests the possibility.
    http://www.3news.co.nz/Pansy-Wongs-political-future-in-jeopardy/tabid/419/articleID/186134/Default.aspx

    Mind you Key is still being “coyly indecisive” about the use of the travel privilege by the Wongs even though there is evidence that the Wongs were knowingly booking their travel through her office and using the perks.

  29. Irascible 29

    The rats are leaving the ship. Key is drawing the distance from the Wongs alright.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4341155/Pressure-goes-on-Wong-to-quit-Parliament-too

    When do the police start asking questions?

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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    22 hours ago
  • Jojo Tamihere Salutes Herr Goff.
    Get Back Jojo! The elation in Mayor Phil Goff’s camp may be easily imagined as they watched social media light up in indignation at challenger John Tamihere’s "Sieg Heil to that" quip. Just when JT’s notoriously right-wing, sexist and homophobic stains were beginning to fade back into his ‘colourful’ past, ...
    1 day ago
  • Hard News: A fun but flawed weed documentary
    Patrick Gower is good value when he's high. Not that I've ever, you know, got stoned with him. But in the second part of his documentary Patrick Gower on Weed, he does what you'd expect in a modern weed documentary and immerses himself – first with a doctor, then a ...
    1 day ago
  • Candidate Survey: Western Bay of Plenty – Local Body Elections 2019
    We surveyed candidates on their attitudes to issues facing the Western Bay Region, find out what they think: “Closing the Gap” Tauranga, one of the area groups of Income Equality Aotearoa NZ Inc., has surveyed all candidates in the three local body elections to discover attitudes to some basic issues ...
    Closing the GapBy Tracey Sharp
    2 days ago
  • Project Nettie calls on scientists to defend biology
    Please spread widely, and sign, to support science and rationalism over the new irrationalism sweeping universities and institutions.  PROJECT NETTIE Sexual reproduction, the generation of offspring by fusion of genetic material from two different individuals, evolved over 1 billion years ago. It is the reproductive strategy of all higher animals ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • I’m glad I don’t live in Auckland
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Index of Power Update, 2018-19: China #2
    We reprint below an article from the excellent website the Economics of Imperialism by Tony Norfield This is an update of the statistics for my Index of Power, using data for 2018-19 and discussing what a country’s ranking reflects. The major change is that China’s rank has shifted up and ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: A history lesson
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 days ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Contempt
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    3 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy admin@averagekiwi.com
    3 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    3 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    4 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    5 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
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    RedlineBy Admin
    6 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    7 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    1 week ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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