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NRT: A surprise policy

Written By: - Date published: 7:12 pm, October 7th, 2014 - 32 comments
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Remember National’s social housing policy? The one they campaigned on? The one that talked about how much money they were spending and was all about upgrading and investing in state houses? Somehow, post-election, its transmogrified into selling off a third of the state housing stock:

Key signalled [the social housing sector] could be dramatically boosted, with the Housing NZ portfolio squeezed and a “substantial increase” in housing provided by social agencies.

Organisations such as the Salvation Army and Presbyterian Support could have a “much bigger role” as housing providers.

The mix between the Crown’s existing stock and its investment in housing for low-income Kiwis that was provided by others was “wrong”, Key said.

While the Government would not “go crazy” in selling existing Housing NZ stock, properties were often in the wrong place and the wrong size.

Housing NZ had already identified that about $5 billion of its stock was not fit for purpose, and English confirmed yesterday that there would be sales.

So, having squeezed eligibility so far that people living in garages aren’t classed as desperate enough to need a state house, National is now going to basically exit the sector entirely and dump it on charities. Whose funding can then be cut in future to save money and provide tax cuts for the rich.

National didn’t campaign on this, and it wasn’t what we voted for. But they’ve never let that get in the way of anything. Charter schools, Ruthanasia – their electoral history is studded with examples of them saying one thing while seeking election, then doing something dramatically different once they’ve gained the Ministerial benches. One of their past leaders even talked openly about a “moral obligation to lie” about their policies. And this is just more of the same.

32 comments on “NRT: A surprise policy”

  1. vto 1

    30 years of neoliberal policies and how has New Zealand’s housing changed?

    Anyone care to have a jab?

    Has it improved? Or worsened?

    And Bill English wants to continue down the same track, with the same policies?

    What the fuck is the matter with the man …… the meanest bastard in town is what Bill English is, serving the greedy and the selfish.

    doesn’t the future just look great ……. / sarc

    • Chris 1.1

      Wormtongue Bill.

      Has Labour said they’d put an end to Nactal’s housing destruction policy yet?

  2. Heather 2

    This is no surprise, the suprise possibly, is how quick it is happening.
    When you are old an cynical as we are I am sure that the buyers are already waiting in the wings, the deal would have been arranged some time ago and Key and his cronies only waiting for the election.
    To see the story in the paper in the weekend and the story on TV tonight with the poor man and his wife with cancer and him unable to work with a ACC work injury and facing a most uncertain future with his housing, makes me feel sick to the stomach.
    English blaming the problem of housing on councils is also a joke, these people are unbelievable, do they really believe that we can’t see what they are doing?
    And people still talk about ‘the nice Mr Key’. I am so excited about Anne Tolley taking over Social Development – yeah right!

  3. Saarbo 3

    English was at his worst with a very approving Duncan Garner on Garner Live this afternoon. English reckoned his main reason for doing this was because “the government wasn’t very good at providing housing”, so I guess he was thinking the market would do it better, he actually has no idea how the market will do it better, it will just do it better, just because. English has always being a purist for the free market dogma…its as if the GFC didn’t happen. He needs to read this:http://billmoyers.com/content/bill-black/#.VDMZSnxjU-8.twitter

    • Draco T Bastard 3.1

      “the government wasn’t very good at providing housing”

      Our own history proves the reverse – the government is very good at providing housing. It’s the market that’s lousy at it.

      so I guess he was thinking the market would do it better, he actually has no idea how the market will do it better, it will just do it better, just because.

      Yep, pure ideology – that and he and his rich mates will be able to make massive profits from the sale of state houses.

      English has always being a purist for the free market dogma…its as if the GFC didn’t happen.

      Like every proponent of the free-market he’s living in a dream world that’s a nightmare for the rest of us.

      • Saarbo 3.1.1

        Added to that, the MARKET has driven the value of Auckland housing through the roof, primarily because of the tax advantages of owning investment housing…and English conveniently blames the Councils, clearly to ease the Nats new RMA changes through http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11338730

        • Tracey aka Rawshark 3.1.1.1

          In twenty years auckland will be a mess… And twenty years ago people said the same thing and they were right… But those making all the decisions wont be living here… They might have an apartment but not their main home…

  4. Jenk 4

    Yeah right, Heather ! I just cannot watch TV anymore, nor read much of the papers !
    We can expect more awful things to happen as we watch our country being sold, or going down the drain ….. and too many of our people with it. Depressing stuff !

  5. RedBaronCV 5

    Somehow I can see the charities being somewhat reluctant to pick up the ball here.
    And how can a house be less fit for purpose than a car.

    • Tracey aka Rawshark 5.1

      One such charity said yesterday that while happy to provide more social housing it doesnt think selling state houses is a good idea…

      Ask the renters of auckland how well they provide social housing…

  6. coaster 6

    How would charities buy this number of houses?

    On the plus side it might supply some houses for those unable to get on the property , to be able to do so, at the expense of others.

    is this realy happening in nz, this isnt the country I used to be proud of.

  7. OneTrack 7

    What does “not fit for purpose mean” and how much of this housing stock in Eketahuna or similar?

    • Tracey aka Rawshark 7.1

      My understanding is that the purpose of a house is to provide adequate shelter for occupants and not be unsafe or unsanitary or a fire risk(see building act)… Ergo a house not fit for purpose doesnt provide adequate shelter within the building act and is unsafe, unsanitary, a fire hazard or all three.

      • Bob 7.1.1

        Spot on Tracey, also there are 2 bedroom houses on massive sections when 3 and 4 bedroom houses are required, and houses in small towns or areas of cities where there is no demand for housing.

        Campbell Live did a great show on the positives around the changes to social housing and the great work being done by the likes of the Salvation Army and the Tindall Foundation last week.

  8. Redelusion 8

    How is housing going in socialist utopia of venuzla, Bolivia , North korea it is the distortion put on the market via regulation, land avialibility etc that is causing the housing shortage in nz, not Neo liberalism. Like to earn a dollar every time Neo liberalism is used on this site, it is such a lazy word used by far left to justify every little evil in their little closed la la world

    • miravox 8.1

      “How is housing going in socialist utopia… “

      Housing seems to be working pretty well in social democratic Vienna where the government seems to distort the market with every tool it can find.

      http://www.wien.gv.at/english/housing/promotion/pdf/socialhous.pdf
      (p22-25 for an overview of modern Vienna housing)

      60 % of all Vienna households live in subsidised apartments, including 220,000 in council housing.

      …The general policy of Vienna, i.e. not to leave urban development and housing completely up to the free market, is complemented by the housing subsidies and by the regulations of the Building Order… [that describes] in detail its exact use for each plot of land, the height and form of the buildings (free-standing, attached, etc.), the maximum density, the number of green areas, underground building parts, etc. They are legally binding for everyone after adoption by the City Council.

      Add in
      – mixed housing social and private tenure neighbourhoods
      – planned long-term development and renewal strategies
      – strict long-term rental laws that usually favour the tenant
      – rent controls and living standards for private and housing association rentals
      – developments (often tendered to private construction firms) in tandem with public transport

      gives a city that belies Bill English’s assertion that governments are not very good at housing. Governments just have to want to be good at it.

    • Tracey aka Rawshark 8.2

      Ask leaky home owners and councils how deregulation of timber treatment and acceptance of misleading claddings worked

    • MrSmith 8.3

      Redolution: your answer is just make more land available, you wouldn’t be a farmer or property speculator sitting on some soon to be rezoned rural land would you? I bet those farmers on the edge of town will be rubbing their hands together at the thought of more rezoning and fortunes to be made. It’s all the RMA’s fault though, Bla, Bla, Bla, get used to this chant from National and it’s paid mouth pieces, nothing to do with inequity. Oh and see how long the Government lasts when due to all this land being opened up house and property prices start falling.

    • framu 8.4

      OK – lets say we open up all the land required to meet current demand tomorrow morning

      please explain how the sudden supply of land translates into cheaper houses

      and detail is what i want – not a theory, but actual, workable details

      the challenge is now issued – are you up to it?

      • MrSmith 8.4.1

        It’s simple really, it called supply and demand, if you suddenly have an over supply of cheap sections this will have an affect on over all section prices, as sellers will have to meet the market, this will have little affect on land values in desirable locations, but will have a positive affect for the people who are struggling to buy their first home. House can be built for $2000 a square meter, so a 100 square meter house for $200k small cheap section for say $100k in a buyers market seems reasonable, a lot of this farm land isn’t returning much and developing it and selling it off would be very attractive to the farmer.

        Of-course this is not the complete answer, I would like to see low interest state advance loans for first home buyers, more infill housing is some areas, immigration restraints, overseas buyers taxed, also but I’m getting a bit off track, the inflationary monetary system needs reforming.

  9. adam 9

    Is a person who burns down the state house they are kicked out of, a bad person?

    So does the xenophobia crack makes more sense now?

    What does a national party backhand look like?

    What do you do when one side of the political debate feels it’s OK to lie, then feel it’s ok to be ideological, then feel it’s ok to destroy people?

    Squirrel?

    OK explanation for last question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxYYPziLdR4

    • Tracey aka Rawshark 9.1

      Good people do bad things. Burning the house down isnt a “good” thing to do… And there are consequences, one of which may be a jail cell, warmth and three meals a day. That may be a good outcome for the arsonist depending on their circs.

  10. tc 10

    Note to all opposition parties:
    Your inability to work together strategically to remove national from power will result in more actions such as this.

    Congratulations on failing those in NZ who desperately needed respite from a govt that has proven over 2 terms it doesnt care about social equity, soverignty, due process, workers rights and lives, etc etc

    Pay careful attention middle NZ this is what most of you voted for.

    • Richard AKA RAWSHARK 10.1

      TC STFU, Focus your anger toward the MSM who blocked the left message and used their power to dispel the bad press national were receiving and turning it too National favour. The left could have had god at the helm and he still would not have been elected.

      • Tracey aka Rawshark 10.1.1

        Part of the problem but not all of it, imo. If god had been leading LP he would have understood compromise for the greater good

      • tc 10.1.2

        The MSM were always going to behave as they did, not factoring that into the strategy is rather naive.

        Anger toward the MSM is simply pissing into the wind…enjoy the shower.

        • kiwisaver 10.1.2.1

          I think the MSM has got much worse over time. Maybe there’s more money to be made from the Whaleoil/Farrar contacts, but they have been especially vicious to Labour this time.
          And I thought Sean Plunket was going to bust a valve when he spoke to Kim Dotcom.
          There seems to be a few rightwing governments around the world, especially the 5-eyes ones, where the media have been taken over by their corporate donors
          Give the plebs bread and circuses eg entertainment and distractions and put a jolly little PM in to front the thing and you’re away laughing.

          • Paul 10.1.2.1.1

            Agreed..the media has become more tabloid.
            Most of the time vacuous, with tales of celebrity and sport.
            Most of time sensational, with crime stories to engender fear.
            Most of the time running back stories to support their agenda…expensive house prices (RMA changes), bad teachers ( charter schools), bad councils ( more central government), bad parents ( cutting benefits)
            Then, when a threat appears….vicious relentless attacks…Cunliffe, Internet Mana, etc

          • tc 10.1.2.1.2

            Its not ‘worse’ per se its behaving as its owners require our issue is the bar was not high to begin with so folk dont see much change.

    • Tracey aka Rawshark 10.2

      Agree with you… Three seats

      Ohariu
      Epsom
      TTT

      a better cooperation and a genuine desire to rid kiwis of tjis regime and there was a chance… Still depended on winston though…

      Your point, well made imo, is it seemed the LP in particular only wanted nats gone on their 100% own terms.

      • tc 10.2.1

        TTT gives an extra doesn’t it as Mana’s party votes count unless they weren’t enough % and akl central’s green votes on Labour makes 5 potential extras.

  11. GRiM aka Rawshark 11

    Here’s a little mental exercise for you all:

    Double all wages in NZ, reduce the NZ dollar value to half,

    Q) what is the outcome?

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    5 days ago
  • Rental reforms progress to select committee stage
    The Government continues to make progress on a fairer and more secure rental market for renters and landlords with the First Reading of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill and its referral to the Social Services and Community Select Committee.  “Now is the opportunity for landlords, tenants and others who want ...
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    6 days ago
  • Papua New Guinea Prime Minister to visit New Zealand
    Papua New Guinea’s Prime Minister Hon James Marape will visit New Zealand from 21-25 February, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern announced today. “New Zealand and Papua New Guinea have a warm and friendly relationship. I look forward to welcoming Prime Minister Marape here and strengthening the relationship between our two countries,” ...
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    6 days ago
  • Free school lunches served up to thousands
    Thousands of children have begun receiving a free lunch on every day of the school week, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said. The Government’s free and healthy school lunch programme is under way for 7,000 students at 31 schools in Hawke’s Bay / Tairāwhiti and Bay of Plenty / Waiariki, extending ...
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    6 days ago
  • Social Wellbeing Agency replaces Social Investment Agency with new approach
    The Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni today announced a new approach that continues to broaden the Government’s social sector focus from a narrow, investment approach to one centred on people and wellbeing. Minister Sepuloni said redefining the previous approach to social investment by combining science, data and lived experience ...
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    6 days ago
  • Government to strengthen protections for whistleblowers
    The Government is strengthening the Protected Disclosures Act to provide better protection for whistle blowers, Minister of State Services Chris Hipkins said today. “The Protected Disclosures Act is meant to encourage people to speak up about serious wrongdoing in the workplace and protect them from losing their jobs or being ...
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  • PM speech at Parliamentary Chinese New Year celebration 2020
    Nǐn hǎo (Hello in Mandarin). Xīn Nián Kuài Lè (Happy New Year in Mandarin) Néi Hóu (Hello in Cantonese). Sun Nin Fai Lok (Happy New Year in Cantonese) Tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou, tēnā koutou katoa. Thank you for your invitation to attend this celebration today. I would like to acknowledge ...
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  • IPANZ Annual Address
    Kia ora. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. Nau mai haere mai ki te Whare Pāremata. E ngā mana whenua ki tēnei rohe Taranaki Whānui, Te Upoko o Te Ika, Ngāti Toa Rangatira, Ngāti Raukawa – kei te mihi, kei te mihi, kei te mihi. E ngā mana, e ...
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  • 2020 IPANZ Annual Address
    Kia ora. Ngā mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. Nau mai haere mai ki te Whare Pāremata. E ngā mana whenua ki tēnei rohe Taranaki Whānui, Te Upoko o Te Ika, Ngāti Toa Rangatira, Ngāti Raukawa – kei te mihi, kei te mihi, kei te mihi. E ngā mana, e ngā ...
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    7 days ago
  • Tougher penalties for gun crime a step closer
    Tougher penalties for gun crime are a step closer with the passage of firearms reform legislation through another stage in Parliament. The Arms Legislation Bill has tonight passed its Second Reading. “The changes have one objective - to prevent firearms falling into the wrong hands,” said Police Minister Stuart Nash. ...
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  • Arms Legislation Bill: Second Reading
    Introduction Mr Speaker We all know why we are here today. It has been a long journey. The journey did not actually begin on 15 March 2019. It began on 30 June 1997. Almost 23 years ago, Justice Sir Thomas Thorp told us what was wrong with our firearms legislation. ...
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  • New era for vocational education
    The Government’s work to put trades and vocational education back on the agenda took another major step forward today with the passing of the Education (Vocational Education and Training Reform) Amendment Bill, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said. “This is a watershed day for trades and vocational education. These law changes formalise ...
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    7 days ago
  • Bill to Amend the Greater Christchurch Regeneration Act
    Speeding up the return of Christchurch regeneration activities to local leadership is behind the Greater Christchurch Regeneration Amendment Bill introduced to Parliament today by Minister Megan Woods. “As we approach nine years since the February 2011 earthquake in Canterbury, and with the transition to local leadership well underway, the time ...
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    7 days ago
  • Milford Track to partly reopen after storm damage
    Hundreds of New Zealanders and international visitors will be able to get back out into nature with the Milford Track partially reopening next week, after extensive assessments and repairs, the Minister of Conservation Eugenie Sage announced today. The popular Great Walk has been closed since 3 February after an extreme ...
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    1 week ago
  • Government drives low-emissions transport momentum
    Up to 110 new EV chargers nationwide in cities and regions 50 electric vehicles for ride-sharing The Government is helping deliver more infrastructure and options for low emissions transport through new projects, Energy and Resources Minister Dr Megan Woods says. Tauranga, Nelson, Levin, New Plymouth and Oamaru are just some ...
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    1 week ago
  • Kiwis better off under Coalition Government
    New Zealanders are increasingly better off under this Government as wages rise and families have more disposable income, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. Stats NZ reported today that average household disposable incomes after housing costs rose 4.9% in 2019. This was the highest rise in four years and came as ...
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  • Another step towards restoring rights for screen production workers
    All New Zealanders need to have their voices heard at work to ensure we have an inclusive and productive economy. Today we introduce a Bill to do this for workers in the New Zealand screen industry, Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Iain Lees-Galloway says. “The Screen Industry Workers Bill will ...
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  • Enhanced Taskforce Green for Southland and South Otago
    The Government has announced further help for the Southland and Otago regions to speed up recovery efforts from the floods.  “I’ve approved Enhanced Taskforce Green (ETFG), making $500,000 available to help with the clean-up in Fiordland, Southland, and the Clutha district in Otago,” Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni said.  ...
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  • Employers and Industry take the lead to connect students to vocational education
    Following the announcement that more than 340 schools will be funded to run events promoting vocational education, the Government has announced it will fund a further 257 events to be run by employers and industry. “These industry-run events will allow more than 30,000 students to connect with more than 2,000 ...
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    1 week ago
  • Rental reforms a step closer with the introduction of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill
    Today the Government is making progress on a fairer and more secure rental market for renters and landlords with the introduction of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Bill in Parliament.  “This Bill includes a series of reforms to improve the wellbeing of the 609,700 households that live in rented homes, and ...
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    1 week ago
  • Biosecurity Minister announces world first eradication of pea weevil
    A Government programme to wipe out pea weevil has achieved a world first, with Biosecurity Minister Damien O’Connor today announcing the successful eradication of the noxious pest from Wairarapa. This means the nearly four-year ban on pea plants and pea straw was lifted today. Commercial and home gardeners can again grow ...
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