NRT: This does not bode well

Written By: - Date published: 12:30 pm, March 31st, 2015 - 22 comments
Categories: Abuse of power, Environment, national, science - Tags: , , , ,

I/S at No Right Turn on the way that National is manipulating official environmental reporting to try and conceal the damage…


This does not bode well

The Local Government and Environment Committee is due to report back today on National’s Environmental Reporting Bill. One of the key themes of submissions on the bill was that no-one trusts the Minister to decide the topic of the reports. And with good reason. Because Statistics New Zealand announced their Ministerially-approved national environmental reporting topics today, and they’re a complete disaster.

The list of topics is here. And you don’t have to look very far to find some obvious gaps.

  • Emissions of key air pollutants will be tracked for home heating and transport, but not industry or farming;
  • Global greenhouse gas emissions are included, but not national ones. Meanwhile there’s a strong focus on natural drivers of climatic variation such as the El Niño Southern Oscillation and on temperature, rainfall and sunshine-hours time-series.
  • Their definition of “extreme weather events” will focus not on the droughts, fires and floods highlighted by the IPCC, but on lightning strike density.
  • The impact of climate change will be measured by milk production, the economic performance of the agricultural sector, and by ski-field operating days. The health effects will be measured by melanoma statistics rather than heatstroke deaths.

So, rather than comprehensive statistics on climate change and what it is doing to our country, we’re going to get a bunch of stats which ignore key drivers and impacts while heavily implying that its all the result of natural environmental processes (oh, and throws in some cheerleading for our biggest environmental polluter as well). And it just goes on and on. Statistics on the effects of irrigation takes on rivers have been deliberately excluded, as have been illnesses caused by dirty rivers. Pollution of the oceans will be tracked by tracking not discharges of oil or sewage to the marine environment, but “marine debris”. But the value of oil, gas, and mineral extraction from the marine environment will be included. These aren’t environmental statistics. They’re economic ones, mislabelled, and deliberately designed to obscure rather than highlight our environmental problems. And just to make it clearwho is responsible,

The Minister for the Environment and Minister of Statistics approved the final list of topics in September 2014.

Submitters on the Environmental Reporting Bill were entirely right to be concerned. And if this is what National means by “environmental reporting”, we’re better off without it.

22 comments on “NRT: This does not bode well”

  1. philj 1

    Its called being economical with the truth;-)

  2. ghostwhowalksnz 2

    Dont quite understand the list

    Topic: Emissions of air pollutants from industrial activities

    Does this mean discharges are measured or not ?

    I can see with primary industries ( agriculture) they merely mention this as a topic, but with no outcomes measured.

  3. Steve Withers 3

    Why do conservatives everywhere have to poke the eyes out of the truth with sticks?

    This consistent dishonesty points to ingrained corruption and an ethical vacuum.

    …and kiwis vote for this.

    Sad days on this planet. The liars and cheaters are winning.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.1

      Why do conservatives everywhere have to poke the eyes out of the truth with sticks?

      Because the facts and truth always prove their beliefs wrong.

      …and kiwis vote for this.

      Some Kiwis hold the same delusional beliefs as National and Act and thus believe the lies that they’re told.

  4. Capn Insano 4

    “Pay no attention to those other statistics, they don’t agree with how splendidly well we’re handling environmental issues in 100% pure clean green New Zealand.”
    So is there an issue with Statistics NZ being Tory arse-lickers [see also employment stats] or is the information ‘massaged’ by National before release?

  5. It’s not related specifically to climate change, but this post at Public Address makes some powerful points about another area in which National have massively weakened environmental standards – all in pursuit of more dairy dollars:
    http://publicaddress.net/speaker/the-power-of-n-nutrient-caps-and-peak-dairy/

  6. adam 6

    Liberalism, the hydra, inimical to humans.

    It’s still the same leitmotif of these rancid money worshippers.

  7. saveNZ 7

    Face it, National and Act want to turn our country into a toilet for short term gain to maximise their profits. They are despicable.

    Crosby Textor would be proud, turning environmental statistics into a waste paper basket exercise and making sure no meaningful data is sought, while also adding in select data to muddy the water (literally).

    Hope Russell has the dumbo Nats up on it.

    Another plus for NZ First, they seem to understand you use rail to carry freight not trucks.

    Labour and Greens and NZ First should have National up on it. How can you plan when all your data is weighted on who is giving you the most donations and votes for you?

    Now we officially know, we are a banana republic under National.

  8. jenny kirk 8

    This smells like another cover-up coming up to me. Hide behind meaningless stats gathered specifically for the purpose and pretend there is nothing wrong happening with dairying and mineral extraction and their impact on freshwater sources. And then these nonsense stats will be used to justify further expansion of these industries.

  9. tc 9

    Nact know how to game the system, selective use of numbers is stock in trade for tge sell out crew. Unemployment, crime, welfare and the economy are also good examples.

  10. heather 10

    These environmental statistics are a nonsence, the monster dairy giant will continue to pollute and rape this land without any concern for what will be left.
    I remember listening to Dr. Mike Joy (the Nats do not like him), he said – the ground is so soaked with cows urine it can not take any more, so it runs off into the nearest rivers or streams. The size of the dairy farms is becoming unsustainable, but do we care?
    I also think that’s why the Canterbury Regional Council is not going to be a fully democratic body, if it was, they might vote against the huge amount of water being taken for dairying.
    Some people say that I have become cynical!! – what me…

  11. Upnorth 11

    how can something which is public be a cover up?

    • Sable 11.1

      How many people do you suppose pay close attention to the details? Many people still trust the government is doing the right thing so they assume any amendments are undertaken in the public interest.

      Are you really this naive or just another Tory who doesn’t care about our environment?

    • grumpystilskin 11.2

      Upnorth: You need to read the post again to understand what is going on.

  12. Sable 12

    Paving the way for the environmental disaster called the TPPA. This government are betraying the people of this country.

    • tc 12.1

      NACT are looking after the US corporate interests that drive them and the US government, if a few people get in the way that’s just business as they say its nothing personal.

  13. vto 13

    It is truly gobsmacking.

    And laughable.

    And, again, in breach of the Fair Trading (in politics) Act, whereby misleading and deceptive conduct is an offence.

    Why don’t the politicians subject themselves to the Fair Trading Act?

    And they wonder why they are not respected and are placed on the same kudos scale as secondhand caar dealers and dodgy salemenwomen selling snakeoil.

  14. vto 14

    Lets go to the doctor for the annual checkup – but the good doc is not allowed to follow professional training and do such checks as is seen fit, no no no the good doc is only allowed to check the things the patient wants checked. And very specifically the good doc is NOT allowed to check those things which are known problems no no no no no..

    ..the very shortest route to an early death

    ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    I give you the National Party and its supporters and their thinking

    what a fucking joke

    • Murray Simmonds 14.1

      Absolutely agree with vto’s comment.

      What a total farce.

      “Why don’t the politicians subject themselves to the Fair Trading Act?”

      That would require some intelligent input from the Minister for the Environment. He’s incapable of delivering on that particular score. Nor on any other score as far as I can make out.

  15. Lionel 15

    To me conservatives are people who don’t like taking risks or upsetting the applecart.When you look at the Nats and the amount of wreckage they have caused to ordinary people in order to keep their corporate buddies and the USA happy they are anything but conservative.More like vandals.

  16. Chauncey Gardiner 16

    Lets for the fun of it just concentrate on climate change, just the effect (i.e. ignore mans influence).

    What would the National Security organizations of American (CIA + DoD) + Uk MoD do about it.

    Would they:

    A. Bury their heads up their asses like a bunch of unimaginative National Party money munching status quo keeping poo jockeys.

    Or

    B. Be proactive and search for all relevant data sharing and coordinating with as many non military relevant organizations as possible?

    I’m picking B: Heres why

    1. CIA Opens Center on Climate Change and National Security:
    The Center will assume responsibility for coordinating with Intelligence Community partners on the review and declassification of imagery and other data that could be of use to scientists in their own climate-related research. This effort draws on imagery and other information that is collected in any event, assisting the US scientific community without a large commitment of resources.

    https://www.cia.gov/news-information/press-releases-statements/center-on-climate-change-and-national-security.html

    2. NEW YORK (Thomson Reuters Foundation) – Protecting the infrastructure of American cities from the effects of climate change is rising on the agenda of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, according to a top agency official.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/25/us-foundation-climate-security-idUSKCN0HK2PW20140925

    3. A major strategic threat: how the Ministry of Defence sees climate change. First of all it’s worth noting that climate change features heavily in the MoD’s analysis. Almost every section of its report, from transport to energy to health, makes reference to climate change impacts. People often talk about ‘ mainstreaming’ climate change into all aspects of policy-making or decision-taking. It looks like the MoD has taken this to heart.

    http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2014/07/total-submersion,-sudden-migrations-and-harvest-failures-three-ways-the-ministry-of-defence-says-the-world-could-be-affected-by-climate-change/

    Why would the National Party hide what is happening? MONEY? But how?

    Are they following the same line as the Republicans in US in terms of reducing funding to National security agencies in order to reduce readiness to climate change (what economic advantage can be gleaned by hiding it…. remember Climate Change can be used for economic advantage)

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/energy/republicans-push-climate-change-cuts-at-cia-department-of-defense-20150317

    What are those Dirty little Nats up to?

    Odd how in Nicky Hagers book dirty politics National were copying the Republicans dirty tactics
    http://gordoncampbell.scoop.co.nz/2014/08/14/gordon-campbell-on-nicky-hagers-new-book/

    Are we seeing similar things… are the 2 parties connected (what American companies are investing in NZ)?

    Or is it the fact NZ is particularly well placed to do absolutely sweet FA as NZ is well placed in terms of its ability to cope with climate change (but so is the States and UK yet they are doing something about it).

    Funny how we need irrigation in Canterbury for already hugley wealthy land owners?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2908213/How-country-cope-climate-change-Map-reveals-best-worst-places-live-planet-warms-up.html

    COUNTRIES THAT WILL BE MOST AND LEAST AFFECTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE ACCORDING TO THE ND-GAIN INDEX

    Least affected Score Most affected Score
    1 – Norway 82.7 1 – Chad 31.6
    2 – New Zealand 82.2 2 (tied) – Eritrea 33.8
    3 – Sweden 81.6 2 (tied) – Burundi 33.8
    4 – Finland 81.5 4 (tied) – Democratic Republic of Congo 34.0
    5 – Denmark 81.4 4 (tied) – Central Africa Republic 34.0
    6 – Australia 80.1 6 – Sudan 35.5
    7 – United Kingdom 80.0 7 (tied) – Niger 35.6
    8 – United States 78.9 7 (tied) – Haiti 35.6
    9 (tied) – Germany 78.8 7 (tied) – Afghanistan 35.6
    9 (tied) – Iceland 78.8 10 – Guinea-Bissau 37.3

    OIA NZDF, MPI etc and see what they are doing about it….. then you might get a true picture…

    Happy heat wave

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    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    1 week ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago
  • Democracy – I Don’t Think So
    So, those who “know best” have again done their worst. While constantly claiming to be the guardians of democracy and the constitution, and respecters of the 2016 referendum result, diehard Remainers (who have never brought themselves to believe that their advice could have been rejected) have striven might and main ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Government says it will now build just one really nice home
    Following publication of this article, the Ministry has requested it to be noted that this supplied image is not necessarily representative of what the final house will look like, and it “probably won’t be that nice.” As part of today’s long-anticipated reset of the Government’s flagship KiwiBuild policy, Housing Minister ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Imperialism and your cup of coffee
    Over the next week or two we will be running three synopses of parts of the opening chapter of John Smith’s Imperialism in the 21st Century (New York, Monthly Review Press, 2016).  The synopsis and commentary below is written by Phil Duncan. Marx began Capital not with a sweeping historical ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Still juking the stats
    The State Services Commission and Ombudsman have released another batch of OIA statistics, covering the last six months. Request volumes are up, and the core public service is generally handling them within the legal timeframe, though this may be because they've learned to extend rather than just ignore things. And ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Hard News: Time for a New Deal: 25 years on
    In 1994, I was editing an ambitious street mag called Planet, from a fabled office at at 309 Karangahape Road. The thirteenth issue of the magazine was published in the winter of that year and its cover embodied a particularly ambitious goal: the end of cannabis prohibition.I wanted to do ...
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  • Not impressed
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Solar beats coal
    As the climate crisis escalates, it is now obvious that we need to radically decarbonise our economy. The good news is that its looking easy and profitable for the energy sector. Wind is already cheaper than fossil fuels, and now solar is too:The levellised cost of solar PV has fallen ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • A Step Too Far.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Where Money Comes From
    Most people would say, no doubt, that they have a pretty good idea of what money is. They live with the reality of money every day. It is what is needed to buy the necessities of life and to maintain a decent standard of living. You get money, they would ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • Banned by the Green Party leadership: Jill Abigail on women’s rights and trans rights
    The article below was an opinion piece that appeared in the Spring 2019 issue of Te Awa (the NZ Green Party’s newsletter) and on the Greens website.  In keeping with their policy of hostility to women defending women’s right to female-only spaces, Green bureaucrats have since removed the opinion piece.  ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • The fallacy of the proximity argument.
    Longer term readers may remember my complaining that, as a political scientist, it is burdensome to have non-political scientists wanting to engage me about politics. No layperson would think to approach an astrophysicist and lecture him/her on the finer details of quarks and black holes, but everybody with an opinion ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 weeks ago
  • Where We Stood: Chris Trotter Replies To Stevan Eldred-Grigg.
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    2 weeks ago
  • Universities back the climate strike
    On September 27, School Strike 4 Climate will be striking for a future to pressure the government for meaningful climate action. This time, they've asked adults to join them. And now, Lincoln University and Victoria University of Wellington have signed on:Victoria University of Wellington has joined Lincoln University in endorsing ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Another constitutional outrage
    Another day, another constitutional outrage in the UK. This time, the government is saying that if parliament passes a law to stop Brexit before being prorogued, they may just ignore it:A senior cabinet minister has suggested Boris Johnson could defy legislation to prevent a no-deal Brexit if it is forced ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ending dairy in Canterbury
    Environment Canterbury has finally proposed nitrogen limits to stop dairy farmers from poisoning Christchurch's water supply. And naturally, farmers are whining about it:A proposed move by Environment Canterbury (ECan) to protect Christchurch's drinking water by setting tough – some would say, draconian – nitrate reductions in the decades ahead and ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Is National the party of climate arson?
    The Zero Carbon Bill is currently before select committee. While its targets are weak, its a generally sensible bill that promises to establish a long-term framework to guide emissions reductions. But National hasn't made up its mind on whether it will support it - and according to Andrea Vance in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago

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