OMG! ING! WTF?

Written By: - Date published: 1:33 pm, November 18th, 2010 - 59 comments
Categories: business, spin - Tags: ,

by Frank Macskasy

Last year, over 13,000 New Zealanders got some measure of satisfaction from ANZ’s part-owned ING in New Zealand. For over a year, half a billion dollars in investors’ funds had been locked up, during a nasty dispute between ING/ANZ and their investors.

The bad publicity for both ANZ and ING was incalculable and showed up the ANZ  as a corporate entity quite willing to shaft their own customers.

But not to worry, ‘cos ANZ finally came up with the answer of how to overcome all that bad publicity – they changed ING’s name to “One Path”!!

Yup – a total re-branding of their subsidiary company. Evidently the “ING” brand name was now a rather smelly liability, and they’ve opted for a “make over”. (New website here)

I would have thought the new name, “One Path”,  was rather unfortunate. For 13,000 investors, ING was the One Path to losing much of their life savings.

The ANZ has no such option, I guess. Their branding can’t be changed quite so easily. So they’ve taken to massive billboards and TV advertising, with the theme, “In a Perfect World…”

Of course, in a “perfect world”, investors in an investment company, belonging to a major bank, would not have been shafted as they were by the ANZ.

Thinks… maybe ANZ/ING would’ve caused less damage to their credibility and branding had they simply looked after their customers in the first place.

Thinks… that it takes a ‘leftie’ to remind a major corporation of the basics in how to look after a customer.

59 comments on “OMG! ING! WTF?”

  1. Colonial Viper 1

    The big banks are not here to look after either the Righties or the Lefties, just their own shareholders and Board.

    Now the Lefties realise this but its always interesting to see the Righties look so completely surprised when they too get caught in the oncoming corporate headlights.

    • grumpy 1.1

      Bloody hell CV, you’re busy – don’t you have a job?

      I have friends who lost their life savings to these bastards. Don’t for a minute think the “righties” support these pricks. ANZ are the least favoured bank by NZ businesses – and rightly so. They have now stuffed National Bank with their Aussie “screw kiwi business” attitude.

      The best thing Labour did was Kiwibank, now all it needs to do is go after business customers.

      I am sure you know this but the biggest opposition to bank bailouts in the US is not from the Democrats but the right wing Tea Party.

      • nzfp 1.1.1

        The Banking Ombudsman guaranteed a full refund to everybody who complained to the Ombudsman about this case! Everybody! Tell your friends to complain now.

        • Sib 1.1.1.1

          The Banking Ombudsman did not guarantee that. The system of compensation muddled and piecemeal. While some people did get a full refund, many did not. Many people got only 60 per cent. Some, it is not known how many, got nothing at all. And to get anything at all, it took a hell of a fight.

          This is nothing to do with the political left or right. This was a financial scam. Just like people who run Ponzi schemes, ANZ/ING thought their scam would run for ever. But they got caught.

          A big problem as that there are still people around who refuse to believe that bankers who wear grey suits can have less integrity than Mother Theresa.

          • nzfp 1.1.1.1.1

            OK, fair enough Sib, let me rephrase it – that’s what I was told by people I know personally who were awarded full compensation by the Ombudsman.

            I agree with you though – it was a scam. It damn well was a scam because those RIF’s and DYF’s were all investing in fraudulent CDO’s and other exotic, toxic, derivative based investment vehicles. You can’t tell me that ING and ANZ didn’t know what they were doing – both of those Financial institutions have been around long enough – ripping people off long enough to know a rip off when they see it. Maybe the old saying is right – when the tide goes out we can see who’s been swimming naked – maybe ANZ/ING were just naked!

      • Pascal's bookie 1.1.2

        I missed the tea party types pushing for banking reform though. And I guess their new goppy branded tea party congress critters are going to get right on top of the foreclosure debacle, and tell the banks that if the lost the paper work proving a homeowner owes them money then tuff. Home owner keeps his house and banker takes a bath and should keep his books better next time.

        Amirite?

      • Colonial Viper 1.1.3

        Bloody hell CV, you’re busy – don’t you have a job?

        grumpy 😀

        I can highly recommend marrying into wealth 😀

        The Tea Party never used to be particularly Right Wing but overtime big money Right infiltrated it and it is today what it is.

        • grumpy 1.1.3.1

          “I can highly recommend marrying into wealth”

          So are you just one of those rich pricks using left wing blogs as part of a guilt trip?

          • Colonial Viper 1.1.3.1.1

            Dude, I’m very surprised at you playing the Politics of Envy and Greed card, aren’t you happy for me? Don’t be jealous, I’ve taken individual responsibility to get where I am 😀

        • Jeremy Harris 1.1.3.2

          I can highly recommend marrying into wealth

          Ho ho, I’m so glad I saw this comment, so much explained in one sentence… The hypocracy is delicious…

          Turns out all your implications you run a business or have a successful career, all just bluster, you’re real talents are posting on other people’s blogs and sponging off the spouse…

          I guess in your world it doesn’t matter how much you take the sucessful will always go out and make more for you…

          Life must be tough as a guilt ridden, wealthy, white liberal…

          • grumpy 1.1.3.2.1

            Don’t believe all you read here. Tongue/cheek/diversion

          • Jeremy Harris 1.1.3.2.2

            Maybe but I enjoy needling CV almost as much as CV enjoys needling me..!

          • Colonial Viper 1.1.3.2.3

            Jeremy, didn’t pick you out as one to be jealous of someone else’s success! Envy is not a good trait my friend, and I didn’t think you would be playing the Politics of Envy 😯

            • grumpy 1.1.3.2.3.1

              You really are good at this, have you thought of taking up something a bit more challenging – like politics? Matt could do with a bit of help to go with Hone.

              • Colonial Viper

                As long as I can still be at my darling’s beck and call, gotta keep the women in your life happy you know its (literally) like a full time job

          • felix 1.1.3.2.4

            Jeremy, you seem to be implying that CV achieving financial security somehow doesn’t count. Are you saying you measure financial success differently depending on how one arrives at it?

            I’d be very interested to know your philosophical basis for this. If CV’s financial achievement doesn’t count, who’s does? Let’s see how committed you are to this stance. Genuine question.

            • Jeremy Harris 1.1.3.2.4.1

              I don’t believe in dynastic wealth, I hope my parents give all their money away or to my brothers…

              If it’s true and CV is married to money, more power to him… I certainly believe it’s his family’s money to spend however they want, I certainly don’t believe I have a right to anyone else’s legally acquired wealth no matter how they came by it…

              However, I do believe a self made fortune is better than inherited wealth, the self acquirer is more likely to put the wealth to good use expanding the economy and creating wealth and jobs for all…

              • Maynard J

                Would you strongly support land taxes and inhertiance taxes to break down dynastic wealth?

              • Jeremy Harris

                No… I don’t believe I have the right to take other people’s legally acquired property by force…

                • Maynard J

                  Do you believe the market will make it happen?

                  • Jeremy Harris

                    No, there is no market in people’s decisions upon death…

                    • Maynard J

                      Hmm, sounds like a market failure then. All that inherited wealth and land going to waste. Who’d have thought that the market isn’t perfect, and that intervention could improve things.

                      In other news, do you believe taxation is taking people’s legally acquired propery by force?

                    • Jeremy Harris

                      Well as already pointed out, there is no market in what people elect to do with their things after death…

                      Whoever said markets are perfect..?

                      It really is none of your or my business what people do with their stuff after they die, taking money off widows with the threat of imprisonment is hardly what I’d call “improving things”…

                      There are a few things only the government can only provide, economically and morally… Taxes seem the most practical way to pay for them…

              • felix

                Sorry Jeremy, I don’t follow.

                In what sense is CV’s fortune not “self made”?

                • Jeremy Harris

                  It’s not rocket science, did CV personally increase NZ’s producivity, wealth and job numbers by introducing a new product or service, creating a new product or service, reducing the cost of an existing product or service or invest wisely to allow others to do so or did CV marry someone who had (or their ancestors had)..?

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Look, I don’t want to be impolite Jeremy, but go take a hike. I’ve put in a tonne of personal sweat and effort to get to where I am today, and I do not need a wrecker and a hater like you to cleverly talk down my achievements.

                    Its not my problem (or indeed my responsibility) to ‘create new products and services’, ‘to increase NZ’s productivity and job numbers’ etc!!! It is to get wealthy and make myself a success, now if I can do it by own efforts and marry into wealth than everyone else can too by taking some frakin personal responsiblity for their lives, what a bunch of bludgers.

                    I am amazed at the jealousy I am hearing. Why would you even suggest that I have some kind of responsibility to add one whit to the wider economy in my quest for financial success. Its not just me, plenty of other people have made it this way too. The wealth was already there, why bother growing it, just reach out and take it. Pardon me, but anyone who complains about this is just an envious slacker IMO.

                    • nzfp

                      I’ll have to agree here Jeremy – take a few minutes to go over CV’s posts – whatever his financial situation CV has consistently demonstrated a concern for the rest of his/her (sorry mate – not sure of gender) fellow New Zealand citizens. Honestly, take a minute and have a look.

                      If CV is independently wealth because he/she happened to fall in love with and marry somebody who’s family is independently wealthy – and then chooses to use that time to promote economic and political democracy as well as an economy that promotes a widening and deepening of the middle class so we can all enjoy the benefits of living in God’s Own (godzone) at the expense of the elites and the banksters – then more power to him/her!

                      By the way, I’ve had to eat humble pie myself with at least one other poster on this forum – can’t seem to disagree with them on pretty much well anything today – but that’s cool.

                      Cheers CV, have a beer on me.

                    • Jeremy Harris

                      @nzfp, I don’t doubt CV cares but I believe his socialist viewpoint usually hurts the very people who the big government programme is aimed at… If CV is wealthy – great..! I bear no jealousy or animosity…

                      I don’t personally support land taxes for the same reason I don’t support an ongoing tax on someone buying a plant for their garden, or on the milk in their fridge – property ownership shouldn’t be conditional on paying ongoing taxes that, if the taxes are not paid, is taken from you by force… You don’t really own something in that case…

                      @Felix have you ever tried making money just for yourself without providing something in return..? It is possible at the moment because of the current monetary system and the government monopoly of currency (I don’t support this) but generally you must provide one of the services I describe above to acquire wealth, the other options are inheritance or fraud…

                      You asked how I ranked entreprenuership and inheritence and I believe entreprenuership is more benefical for society, inheritance is people’s personal choice and fraud is force which should be dealt with by the legal system… This is just my personal opinion…

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Thanks for that nzfp, appreciated. Monteiths works for me 😀

                      Hi Jeremy, always a good tustle mate.

                  • Jeremy Harris

                    I really can’t tell exactly how much you’re taking the piss at this point… Satire so clever no one can tell..?

                    Felix asked me a question and I answered it…

                    • KJT

                      “did CV personally increase NZ’s producivity, wealth and job numbers by introducing a new product or service, creating a new product or service, reducing the cost of an existing product or service or invest wisely to allow others to do so”.

                      Did you?

                  • nzfp

                    Hey ya Jeremy,

                    You seem to have contradicted yourself in this thread. This is not a negative criticism – just something I would like you to think about.

                    Consider your earlier response in the following:

                    Maynard J: Would you strongly support land taxes and inhertiance taxes to break down dynastic wealth?

                    Jeremy Harris: No… I don’t believe I have the right to take other people’s legally acquired property by force…

                    And then further along you stated:

                    … It’s not rocket science, did CV personally increase NZ’s producivity, wealth and job numbers

                    The thing to consider is that all of the Classical Economists – the great English Economist and arguably the most influential of the Classical economists David Ricardo in particular – as well as Adam Smith (Maxim IV on taxes), John Stuart Mills, The French Physiocrats right up to Henry George, not to mention many many others, all advocated land taxes.

                    The point is, that these economists – as well as many many others – recognised that land is a resource that is not produced by men, but is provided freely by nature, just as water and air and sunlight are provided freely, consequently wealth generated from owning land was defined by these economists as a “free lunch”.

                    American economist “Professor Michael Hudson” best describes it in a recent interview (June 25, 2008), with radio host “Bonnie Faulkner” on the “KPFA” show “Guns and Butter”

                    You can listen to the entire interview here: “Michael Hudson — The New Road To Serfdom”

                    Hudson states (read the transcript here):

                    The idea of classical economics was to tax away the free lunch. In other words, they said there were two kinds of taxes. Most people these days think of taxes as adding to costs, as in if you earn wages and pay taxes out of those wages you have less to spend on consumer goods and investment… if a profitable company is taxed, it has to raise its prices to cover taxes plus the cost of production. The classicists said there were exceptions to this, that those exceptions were monopoly profits and land rents. For instance if you tax the land at rental value, it’s not going to remove the land from production because nature provides it. You’re not going to reduce the supply of land because you tax it, you’re just collecting the rent for it because you’re the government. Since ancient Babylonian times, Greece, Rome, medieval Europe, England after the Norman invasion, almost every governmental system based its taxation on land rent.

                    Just some food for thought for you.

                    Captcha:got – got land tax?

                  • felix

                    Jeremy I’m still struggling with this idea.

                    Are you saying that I can’t just get rich by amassing a lot of money?

                    Are you saying I have to perform some specific act that you or “society” can identify, or my money is no good?

                    Why can’t I just make money for myself?

        • NickS 1.1.3.3

          Some of us are old money, we don’t need to actually have money kiddo 😛

          And according to the guys over at The Exile, the Tea Party was entirely astro-turfed and exploited populist memes. Can’t be arsed finding the link right now, jus want to sit back with a cold beer and a good book 😛

  2. D14 2

    REbrand!!
    But the TV ad says they still have the same people running the product.
    That sounds like a really good idea.

  3. nzfp 3

    The Campaign Against Foreign Control of Aotearoa (CAFCA) proudly awarded the 2009 “Roger Award For The Worst Transnational Corporation operating in New Zealand” to ANZ.

    The judges noted:

    The judges all noted the generally egregious behaviour of the Australian‐owned banks that were nominated (ANZ, BNZ and Westpac), and were unanimous in picking them as the worst TNCs operating in New Zealand in 2009 … foreign–owned banks are the Achilles heel of the New Zealand economy, given that they contribute to the lion’s share of the national debt. They account for nearly 70% of investment income debts on the national balance of payments and for 74% of the economy’s net overseas indebtedness.

    But specifically for ANZ the judges stated that:

    ANZ has succeeded in winning the 2009 Roger Award because the ING funds fiasco is simply and plainly ‘pure greed capitalism’ at its worst. This debacle saw the bank immorally misleading small investors into taking their money out of safe term deposits and putting it into highly risky investments, while assuring them that these investments were safe. In fact, most of them were highly dangerous and dodgy, and lost millions of investors’ money.

    When the betrayed investors got organised and put pressure on the bank to repay what had been lost, ANZ’s repayment offer came with big strings attached ‐ investors who refused to sign a waiver agreeing not to take legal action against the bank would receive no compensation. In
    the words of the judges, this was ‘the most extreme case of anti‐democratic manipulation by a transnational within New Zealand during 2009. Simply, ANZ was employing financial Pressure to erase the legal rights of investors – a truly Roger winning performance.’

    The ING debacle was, as one judge noted, ‘the icing on the already baked Roger cake.’ Thus ANZ is the winner of the 2009 Roger Award.

    The Roger award is named after former New Zealand Finance Minister Sir Roger Douglas. The criteria for judging are by assessing the transnational (a corporation with 25% or more foreign ownership) that has the most negative impact in each or all of the following categories:

    Economic Dominance – Monopoly, profiteering, tax dodging, cultural imperialism
    People – Unemployment, impact on tangata whenua, impact on women, impact on children, abuse of workers/conditions, health and safety of workers and the public.
    Environment – Environmental damage, abuse of animals
    Political interference – Interference in democratic processes, running an ideological crusade

    Congratulations ANZ for a job well done and a well deserved award! *Applause* Hear hear!

    Captcha:irritates

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      I lol’d

    • Jeremy Harris 3.2

      They account for nearly 70% of investment income debts on the national balance of payments and for 74% of the economy’s net overseas indebtedness.

      Imagine how good our balance sheet would be if we joined as a state of Australia on the Aussie Dollar..!

      We’re already on the Federation documents…

      • Colonial Viper 3.2.1

        Adopting the current strength of the Australian dollar would destroy over two thirds of our remaining high tech exporters.

        But yeah, our balance sheets would look real good.

      • Jeremy Harris 3.2.2

        The comment was tongue in cheek… I so often forget that tone, sarcasm etc doesn’t translate well online, when it’s in your head and you say something face to face it comes out in your mannerisms, tone, body language, etc… None of that online…

        • Colonial Viper 3.2.2.1

          Ah, thats what the [sarcasm] tags are for 😀

        • Jeremy Harris 3.2.2.2

          I worry of turning into Spud if I unleash the emoticon beast…

        • lprent 3.2.2.3

          It is an art. Even if you aren’t a talented wordsmith (like me), you learn how to project tone and personaility in written language over time. In my case about 30 years.

          Code is a lot more fun. You can express so much more (and influence organizational structures) in a dynamic that operates.

  4. Pat 4

    “Evidently the “ING” brand name was now a rather smelly liability, and they’ve opted for a make over.”

    Actually, ANZ bought 100% of ING’s NZ division a year ago. As part of the deal, it was a stipulation from ING that ANZ must change the company’s name.

    Nothing to do with one badly sold mortgage-backed investment product by ANZ staffers. Everything to do with not letting someone run around with your international brand when you have no control over the company anymore.

    • Pascal's bookie 4.1

      Coz god knows they wouldn’t want it associated with anything shady. 😉

    • Frank Macskasy 4.2

      “…Nothing to do with one badly sold mortgage-backed investment product by ANZ staffers. Everything to do with not letting someone run around with your international brand when you have no control over the company anymore….”

      Especially when that Brand Name is no longer popular with investors?

  5. Just a quick question….is the Frank Macskasy the same Frank Macskasy who was convicted of stealing a dead babies name like dirty David Garrett, or is that just a unhappy coincidence?

    If it is then hugely funny for The Standard to allow a post from someone with the same devious background as David Garrett.

    http://lindsaymitchell.blogspot.com/2006/04/same-frank-macskasy.html

    [lprent: If it is the same guy, he got convicted on 20 years ago without knowingly lying about his previous record to a judge in a written statement (ran across the name when Garrett was being pilloried).

    Everyone has done some stupid things in life when they’re youngish – it is how you learn. It is rather different when you get to be Garrets age and stupidly attempt to gameplay a judge with a statement full of hypocritical bullshit. But of course you’d know all about that wouldn’t you?

    But in any case, I really don’t care – that person paid the penalty of stupidity.

    It was an interesting post and we generally leave all of the fictional smearing of shit without any trace of integrity to you. ]

    • The Voice of Reason 5.1

      Well, you’re a convicted crim and you’re allowed to comment here, so what’s the prob?

    • Pascal's bookie 5.2

      Did he lie about his record to the judge to escape conviction?

    • Maynard J 5.3

      Did he deliberately break the law to make a point, and then cry and whimper that he wasn’t breaking the law, and get convicted anyway?

    • Frank Macskasy 5.4

      Just a quick question… is Whaleoil interested in addressing the issues or playing the person?

      Because it seems to me rather more important that 13,000 of our fellow New Zealanders lost their savings (or a large chunk of it) to ANZ/ING by misrepresenting a financial product.

      I simply hope that ING’s reputation will follow into it’s new incarnation – One Path – so that potential investors enter into dealings with their eyes wide open.

  6. prism 6

    But not to worry, ‘cos ANZ finally came up with the answer of how to overcome all that bad publicity – they changed ING’s name to “One Path”!!

    I immediately thought of the Shining Path (Peruvian guerillas?). ANZ strategic managers are probably insensitive to such struggles and the effect that embedded connections might have on their brand.

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    RedlineBy Daphna
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    3 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
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    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
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    5 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
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    RedlineBy Admin
    5 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    6 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
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    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    6 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
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    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
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    7 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • The obvious question
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
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    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
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    1 week ago
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    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
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    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
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    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
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    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
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    2 weeks ago
  • Good little vassals
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
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    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    2 weeks ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    2 weeks ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago

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