Richard Shaw is Professor of Politics at Massey University. His book The Forgotten Coast was published in November.
Andrew Gilhooly, Richard’s maternal great-grandfather, was born in Limerick, Ireland, six years after the end of the Great Famine [he features in the rugby team photo, above]. He was one of 10 children of tenant farmers. In 1874, Andrew left his homeland for Aotearoa. He soon joined the Armed Constabulary and in 1881, Andrew was one of the 1589 men who invaded and ransacked Parihaka. For the next four years he was garrisoned at the pah as part of the post-invasion enforcement squad. Gilhooly eventually acquired three farms, 412 acres on confiscated Māori land, between Parihaka and the “Cape Egmont” lighthouse.
The history of the West Coast leasehold system is, I suspect, even less well understood than that of the invasion and plunder of Parihaka. Briefly, in 1882 the government began restoring to Māori some of the land it had confiscated 20 years earlier.
Bizarrely, however, responsibility for the administration of these West Coast reserves was vested not with the Māori owners but in the hands of a government-appointed public trustee, who was tasked with acting for the benefit of “the natives to whom such reserves belong” and for “the promotion of settlement”. Those two requirements are, of course, fundamentally incompatible, and it was the second that won out.
By 1912 some 193,996 acres had been notionally set aside in reserves in Taranaki, but 120,110 of them had already been leased to settlers by the trustee via 21-year leases. And these were no ordinary leases. From 1887 they could be renegotiated without the approval of the land’s owners, and from 1892 they came with a perpetual right of renewal, effectively (and quite literally) locking Māori out of their own land.
Strangely, this was enabled by PM John Ballance, via the Land for Settlements Act 1892. Ballance was a supporter of Maori rights!
he strongly supported the rights of Māori to retain the land they still held – many other politicians of his time believed that acquisition of Māori land was essential for increasing settlement. He reduced military presence in areas where strong tensions with Māori existed, and made an attempt to familiarise himself with Māori language and culture.
He was likely just a typical "enlightened" colonial administrator of his time; believing in colonisation as bringing civilisation to the natives, but with a kindly heart & a paternalistic sense of fairness perhaps rare among colonial government Ministers at that time, Dennis?
As native minister he pursued an enlightened, if somewhat paternalistic, policy aimed at protecting Māori land from private sale. He removed a substantial number of armed constabulary from sensitive areas on the grounds that their presence in large numbers aggravated tension between Māori and European. Ballance visited Māori throughout the North Island and made an effort to acquire some proficiency in their language.
It was at his suggestion that Horonuku Te Heuheu Tūkino IV of Ngāti Tūwharetoa gifted land in the central plateau of the North Island for the establishment of Tongariro National Park in 1887. But while his willingness to consult on Māori affairs enhanced Ballance's reputation as compared with that of his predecessor, John Bryce, he did not revise Bryce's policy of reducing expenditure on native affairs, and Māori hopes that Ballance's Native Land Administration Act 1886 would restore to them control of their land were not fulfilled.
Interesting to note that:
In his last months in office Ballance supported moves to enfranchise women, a reform of which he had long been an advocate. Speaking in the House in 1890 he declared: 'I believe in the absolute equality of the sexes, and I think they should be in the enjoyment of equal privileges in political matters.' Once female enfranchisement passed the House of Representatives in 1892, however, he sought to delay its implementation until after the 1893 election, believing that the majority of women were politically uneducated and that their vote in the coming election would not be to the Liberals' advantage.
In his support for women's suffrage Ballance was strongly influenced by the views of his wife. Ellen Ballance was prominent in the growing feminist movement in New Zealand and was vice president of the Women's Progressive Society, an international organisation. A thoughtful, intelligent and politically astute woman, Ellen shared fully her husband's political interests. She regularly attended Parliament to listen to the debates from the gallery, and she was highly regarded in Wellington's political circles.
The personal qualities John Ballance possessed fitted him well for the task he faced as premier. He was kindly, courteous and considerate and displayed great patience. He was a man of honesty and integrity. As a result he attracted extraordinary loyalty among his cabinet and party.
Yes, I suspect you're right. Ballance did the balance – that required to retain governance for his party. Balancing the predominant settler sentiment against the progressive trend that was to culminate during the reign of his successor, Seddon, producing the only genuinely radical parliament we've ever had.
An archetypal liberal, represented in our era by folk like Ardern, Trudeau, Blair. Progress occurs incidentally, via retention of the status quo. Scratch the progressive veneer these folk paint upon themselves, and you reveal the conservative beneath.
Stuff's politicos have some interesting predictions for this year:
The centre-left bloc of the Labour and the Greens remain ahead of the centre-right bloc in polling by the end of 2022, but the difference will be a lot smaller than it is now.
Jacinda Ardern’s Cabinet reshuffle sees Nanaia Mahuta lose the local government portfolio. Moving Mahuta away will help to dampen the vitriol from those riled by the prospect of Māori involvement in governance of water entities, and allow her to travel more as foreign minister.
The Government will not back down on its overall Three Waters reform plan, however.
The reshuffle also sees Labour’s Deborah Russell become a minister, and Jan Tinetti promoted.
At least two National MPs will announce they will retire at the end of this term. Among the contenders are: Michael Woodhouse, Todd McClay, Ian McKelvie, Stuart Smith, and Jacqui Dean.
Labour’s Rongotai MP Paul Eagle will announce a run for mayor of Wellington. Those on the political left in Wellington will despair, but the Labour machine will get behind him.
Maresca, a tiny woman with great charisma and film-star looks, was the author of her own mythology. She made headlines at the age of 18 when she murdered her husband’s killer in broad daylight – an act of revenge made more dramatic by her youth and beauty, and the fact that she was six months pregnant. “I would do it again in a heartbeat,” she declared at her trial.
Gabriella Gribaudi, a professor of contemporary history at the University of Naples, said: “Pupetta Maresca was one of the old school of women bosses – she was ahead of her time. There have been many others since. Women have a much more prominent role in the Camorra than in the other mafias, just as they do in the rest of society in Naples.”
Maresca used publicity to protect herself and to draw attention away from her two brothers, both gangsters. After the notorious serial killer Raffaele Cutolo launched a new criminal organisation to take on the traditional Camorra families, in 1982 she called a press conference and denounced him as a “power-crazed madman”. It was astonishing for a person associated with the mafia – let alone one so glamorous – to make a public declaration, and the press went mad for it.
Women such as Anna Moccia, “the Black Widow”, and Maria Licciardi, “the Little One”, are figures of considerable power in the Camorra. Moccia had four sons, and when her husband was killed she took the decision to fight rather than flee, and sent her 13-year-old son into the Naples courthouse with a gun to shoot his father’s killer. Licciardi took the reins of the clan after her brothers went to prison. Her nephew, known as “the Little Prince”, carried out a series of hits on her command. “Both women wiped out their enemies over time,” said Gribaudi. “And they ran the clan’s business affairs very successfully.”
Agree with this 'Testing positive after refusing to get vaccinated? Different issue.'
I can understand that someone who had done everything they could to avoid Covid ie vaccines, masking physical distancing then getting it would be feeling sad, disappointed etc…..feeling guilty would not be beyond the bounds of possibility. Also anger at someone having given it to me.
NZ Herald but not prominent in the headlines. Should be shouted from far and wide.
'We're probably the only capital city in the world that hasn't had a single patient in intensive care with Covid (in 2021). And I would suggest we're probably one of the few cities in the world that has an intensive care unit that hasn't had a patient with Covid…..
'It's not luck, it's simply decisions that were made, and our government for whatever reason chose to listen to the science experts who have advised a way through this.
Exactly, ianmac. If we want truth and trust we rely on facts for these. Facts and science drove the government's response, and we are able to trust and rely on that response.
How would we have endured in countries driven by other motivations? Where would we be in terms of reliability in trust and truth? We have only to look at the rabbit hole response from that fortunately few who have lost their sense of trust, truth and rationality.
They fear, fret and fulminate instead.
And thanks to our teachers who were able to graft into us enough sense of the value of science and reason for us to accept such a lead.
I would beg to differ in some regards. For starters we are a very small country with a herd mentality thanks to our tall poppy syndrome. That was a great help for the government when they made decisions on the fly after the first lockdown. In fact I would say luck was a major factor behind Labour winning their first term election and their past Covid responses. To be fair we don't know what constraints their contract with Pfizer contained.
However, their luck has run out. Labour has a big problem looming. And that is this country will not tolerate another lockdown.
Not this time – you can expect major disobedience should another lockdown be called. That will play into the hands of anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists. And our loving government will have little choice other than to call the army in? I said previously the proposed road blocks over the Xmas break may have been a flash point for trouble. I passed one outside Gisborne being taken down by police. Therefore it was no surprise to me when the idea of road blocks over the holiday break was scrapped. Wise heads had obviously done the numbers and implications of such action. They saved the country from violence in my opinion. However, there will be no such wriggle room should another lockdown be called. Either the government goes hardline… or anarchy rules. I have my popcorn ready.
I said previously the proposed road blocks over the Xmas break may have been a flash point for trouble. I passed one outside Gisborne being taken down by police. Therefore it was no surprise to me when the idea of road blocks over the holiday break was scrapped. Wise heads had obviously done the numbers and implications of such action. They saved the country from violence in my opinion.
They're not roadblocks, they're checkpoints. Do you have any evidence that the police decided to not do them because they feared violence?
From the NZP website,
Travel into Northland
Police checkpoints are operating for northbound travellers entering Northland from Auckland.
You will need to show your My Vaccine Pass or a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 72 hours before crossing the boundary to enter Northland. You do not need to follow these requirements if you are transiting Auckland without stopping — for example travelling directly from Hamilton to Northland.
The checkpoints will be on:
State Highway 1 at Uretiti
State Highway 12 near Maungaturoto
The checkpoints will operate 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Looks like they intend to shift to spot checkpoints at some point. Hardly a case for violence, it's normal this time of year to have such checkpoints for drink/driving.
I can't find anything about checkpoints in Gisborne being used, but they were requested and the police said no,
sure, many people suffered some hard times due to covid, but really, the only reason it is news is because of its profile.. people suffer hard times always, but if you are alone in that then it is no news
"Sans masks." Shakespeare said it all. Everything else is commentary…."second childishness and mere oblivion; Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."
Well in our little part of Aotearoa 2022 is going to be absolutely devastating. 2021 was a year of people grasping from one false hope to the next, in the hope that 'normal' would return and their hopelessly unsustainable situation would recover and they weren't going to be totally wiped out.
In three months our lease ends and we walk away from a business that's been my partner's life for 50 years, and mine for 30. We'll be ok, I've got good income outside the business and the pension isn't far away, and we've been able to transition parts of the business into something that works online.
Two years ago we had 60 odd artists and suppliers around the country. About a third of them, mainly at the commercial end folded within months of the first lockdown and most at the artist end have had to find something else to do or gone back on a benefit as they don't fit in the work force. We and other galleries allowed them to lead independant, and in many cases quite prosperous lives, I can't see some of our artists recovering that.
When we leave our landlord will struggle to get another tenant, a lot of premises around town have become vacant, some really good, and none have re-let. The town's expected to have a commercial vacancy of 30-50% in the CBD in 6 months. Going to be fun for the landlord class as they find their equity evaporating, and the equity side of the equation works against rent reductions, the value of the property is based on rental return, reduce the rent by 50% and you're having a difficult discussion with the bank.
While you say "people suffer hard times always", generally that is the result of their own actions and decisions. I our current situation many people have had their lives turned upside down and have been asked to make incredible sacrifices so that the majority of Aotearoa can enjoy a pretty normal, and as you rightly say, pretty good 2021. I found that paragraph callous and disrespectful of the sacrifice many people have made to allow you to enjoy the past year. It's a comment more suited to far-right discourse.
it is absolutely not the result of their own actions and decisions john key and my point has flown over your head. I woukd guess you have never really suffered
And the whole “sacrifice” thing is also misplaced.
These things happen to people all the time. The fact of quantity is distorting. It should in fact highlight what so many always suffer but that doesn’t seem to be the case as shown by your “own actions and decisions ” bullshit
Setting up a whole industry and business entirely reliant on tourists and jet planes without thought to risk of pandemic war civil unrest or anything else similarly likely to bring it all to an instant stop.
p.s. sorry if my posts yesterday came across a bit heartless, it seems to be a bad habit of mine. I do have sympathy for peoples plights, and suffered myself on more than one occasion the last 10 years. Mine were those solo risk eventuations which resulted in an entirely different reaction from people – no sympathy, more 'haha tall poppy' shit. Hence my posts. One person suffers, no sympathy, 100 people suffer, plemnty sympathy
p.p.s. I am in qtn now and see the things you describe. Also, my business is one of the riskiest known. Been at it for 30 years, suffering the ups and downs and all the shit that can be thrown
Yep, risk appraisal and mitigation is what makes or breaks a business, and at a personal level as well. Asking what you're not insured for can bring up some interesting answers.
Enjoy the energy of Whakatipu, and look at the human element as an expression of that energy, for better or worse.
I found that paragraph callous and disrespectful of the sacrifice many people have made to allow you to enjoy the past year.
A very good point that in all of our discussions around the 'greater collective good' – it's really nothing more than the sum of all individual experiences.
It's the experience of our tourism, hospitality and entertainment industries. And the people who supply them.
Our prognosis will most likely be not that bad, we had strategies in place for a fairly significant upheaval, that's what 50 years in tourism prepares you for, they happen. We're looking around at a lot of businesses and individuals who weren't as prepared and there's going to be some tragedies. Hopefully appropriate support will be in place for them when they need it.
The weird thing about our situation is that pre covid we were 65% domestic from Paymark figures. Post covid over the counter sales and foot count have averaged 15% of pre covid. Our accountant says that's good around town for. But go 6km down the road to Frankton and the place is going off better than ever. Wider Queenstown's population has evidently increased by 20% and our home has increased in value by about 40%. Strange times.
But it's good to see the bar across the lane 3/4 full for lunch today for the first time PC. Would normally be chocka on NY day and they'd be turning the covers through as fast as they could. It's laid back and conversational, most people are masked and scanning and there's a nice vibe around the town.
Sorry to hear that Graeme. I usually read your comments, and your views about Queenstown in the past year or so have been more upbeat than this.
While you say "people suffer hard times always", generally that is the result of their own actions and decisions.
I was a teen in the 80s and my dad was caught up in the neoliberal redundancies more than once. We were ok, mum had her own career and the grandparents were well off, so we were never going to go hungry. But it was very hard on my dad personally.
Since then we've had a hard core subset of society that's been held in perpetual poverty. Not of their own doing but by economic design and political will. I found your sentence above to be more akin to right wing narratives, which surprised me.
As always I point to the inevitability of hard times because of climate (and now the pandemic, and possibly a big quake), and, not quite sure how to say this, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but there is a feeling of relief that the middle classes are now beginning to feel the pinch. Not in a revenge kind of way, but in a phew, maybe now we can get on with addressing poverty and climate because we all have a better idea of what it's like to have our lives disrupted and undermined outside of our control.
We stand on a knife edge, where NZ could fall one way into social breakdown and people retrenching to positions that shore up their own security (a natural enough reaction), or where we grasp the nettle and get on with figuring out how to create new economies that are resilient and sustainable. You always strike me as firmly in the latter camp.
Queenstown strikes me as a petri dish. Full of potential for going either way in its own style. Pity there's not a local body election this year.
I'm a victim of the late 80's bullshit as well and am excluded from any employment that involves a HR department. My partner is the same. So we've built a life outside that as best we can.
I very much get your point how people are drawn into the servitude of welfare. We had a couple of artists that we managed to build up to the point they were able to move out of the clutches of welfare and have a bit of space in their lives and budgets. Until the market for their work evaporated. They are now in the clutches of WINZ and anti vax / government / anything conspiracy theories and are completely unreachable. There has to be a better way that doesn't destroy people's self esteem. This is where I was coming from about the sacrifice is much wider than just the owners.
Resurgence Support did a lot to pay the rent in Queenstown CBD in latter part of 2021, and has kicked the eventual unwinding down the road by a few months. Tourism businesses have been putting in almost superhuman efforts to keep going and meet the obligations of leases, banks and their employees. In our case I'm out doing heavy physical work at 63 to still have a deficit of several thousand each month. Probably not that sustainable.
The country has done very well to be where we are now, better overall economy than most, and much less morbidity than most. But you're right we're on a knife edge right now and could easily be tipped into utter crap. Not helped by some whos aren't the sharpest tool in the shed doing their best to make that happen. Another surefire way to bring it about is to negate the sacrifices sectors have made to get us where we are and vilify people from those sectors. We're all in this together for better and for worse.
Whakatipu will endure and keep making those that live here strong. The challenge of creating an economy beyond property and tourism has been ongoing since humans first arrived here 800 years ago. We may be on the verge of something around innovation and tech, but I'm not holding my breath, think that will be just an extension of the past sector of short term residence / long term tourism where people move here, buy a house and live here, generally grossly under-employed, for a couple of years until they get sick of going backwards by a considerable amount each month proportional to lifestyle. A very dry acquaintance commented that the principal driver of the Queenstown economy was cashburn. You get to observe some spectacular blazes. There's really no well paying jobs here or high value industries.
I'm more hopeful of the green hydrogen thing spawning a major green industrial base in Southland and Otago.
The "exemption" Boult lobbied for, and got as a work-around, was to ensure the continuation of several large developments at the very top of the market aimed primarily at overseas buyers. They were / are also major drivers of high wage jobs around the place, both during construction and ongoing operation of the properties. I and three of the nine people down our little road derive all or most of our income from this side of the local economy and if it went there'd be more carnage than we're seeing or likely to see from tourism's demise.
It's also being remarkably resilient, owners are keeping up the properties. But in most cases they've gotta, covenants…pages of
The properties are very upmarket, large and complex, with top quality materials, fittings and workmanship. Not unusual to have 100 top tradespeople onsite. Construction can take a couple of years, they are big builds. The grounds will be to a similar standard.
Once they are finished they have to be maintained. Again this requires a lot of people to do it required standard. NDAs resemble small novels so you're looking at quite competent, and expensive people. It's not minimum wage stuff. One neighbour wears out a big topend golf course mower each year mowing the lawns on four of them, two of his clients are New Zealanders. He's very happy.
In my experience the offshore ones, on average, tend to put more in than they take out and can be quite good, sometimes exceptional. There's also a sizeable subset of the demographic that's born and bread in New Zealand, that can take a lot more than they give.
Well. It wasn't "his own actions" that sent a local drainlayer bust after an entire winter, a few years ago, where it was too wet for him to do any of his contracted jobs.
No one really cared about his, "misfortune".
Farmers at the same time got "flood relief"!
Tourist and other industries are being helped by the Government, with Covid. But they are still complaining it is not enough. What happened to Capitalism?
Capitalist principles worked for China's economic recovery…pity about the communism their population lives under. If you have a better ideology to live by, let's hear it?
Must agree about Crony Capitalism and help for farmers (KJT). If you go into business and fail that should be your tough luck. Of course WINZ benefits should go the same way…to be fair. And that's what I hear consistently from the Left – 'it's about fairness.'
Yes, on the surface it would seem China is a clear winner, and I don't deny that in some regards. But, China is a ticking time bomb, held together by a repressive government. A government terrified by the thought their population may revolt. They are so paranoid their latest thing is making football players cover tattoos, or have them removed. Housing, pollution, very complex state and regional body political interfaces that are breaking down. The divide between city and rural folk are all becoming problems.
Chinese are never free to leave in the truest sense. They are expected to support the mother land no matter where they go. Remember the Chinese Party started in NZ that pledged their support to China? Migrants also leave relatives behind, and if worst comes to worst, China will send agents to the West to deal with identified trouble makers.
I follow a Chinese MMA fighter who now has to wear a clown mask every time he fights because he beats up Chinese Kung Fu masters to show them the western way of fighting is superior. His social credit score is now so low he can't use public transport and other amenities. His crime is disrespecting Chinese culture. I don't think America is there yet.
The most interesting observation being – that China is really two separate nations, one a highly developed country of wealthy coastal cities, the other a very poor one in the interior. And that if the former could exist on it's own it would by now be liberal, democratic nation just like say Taiwan.
But because it's geopolitical security needs demand the CCP retains control over the vast and relatively impoverished interior – it cannot let go of it's authoritarian overreach.
State control and Socialism worked well for the USA after WW2. The largest State controlled organisations, ever! Current US capitalism currently seems to be heading them to "also ran".
I wonder how Scandinavian countries fund their MASSIVE welfare systems? Well, they have lower corporate tax rates than the States. Like China, they can do what they do because Capitalism supports them.
But… Muslim immigration and this eco problem may be beyond Capitalism's power to fix things.
If only the rest of the economy was as organised and had a union as strong as the farmers…. it makes the trade unions of 70's look like a pack of pussies.
Doubt your local drainlayer had to put his business and life on hold so others in society could enjoy good health and a buoyant economy. And having been around the civil trade a fair bit there's more to that story than the weather.
Support for tourism has been pretty modest apart from wage subsidies and resurgence that went to other sectors that qualified as well. A lot of it (strategic asset programme) was to protect operations from predatory offshore investment in the early days of the pandemic. This was successful, highly targeted and undersubscribed. The biggest 'support' for tourism has been the MIQ programme, that's keeping the hotel chains afloat, just. But most of the rooms here are mothballed and the operation is scaled back as far as possible.
There's also a small programme administered by the Chamber of Commerce providing support for tourism business transition. We've drawn on it to get a very modest amount of legal advice for our exit. Talking to the administrator the focus is having a resource there to prevent landlords, banks and creditors being arseholes. It's expected to be undersubscribed too.
There was also the arbitration programme to resolve rental disputes from the first lockdown, again undersubscribed, this time grossly, because disputes sort of evaporated with the prospect of compulsory arbitration.
I know what it is like to have your business losing money over a long period through something you have no control over. Also similarly losing a waged job through something I had no control over.
I wouldn't wish either on anybody.
There should be more help for people in both situations.
The effects are probably worse for most people losing a waged job. They normally have much less to fall back on, especially if it was a low wage job, than someone who owned a business.
I do have an issue with those who complain about not enough help if their business goes down, while they oppose a reasonable level of welfare for other unemployed.
However not sure what a Government is supposed to do, when businesses do not have a viable future. Propping them up, like Tiwai point, is an expensive and usually futile, exercise. Imagine the kickback if Government took them over.
At a business owner level the tourism unwind won't be too bad if the owner has good equity, like well north of 50%. They'll be able to start again without having to downtrade. Ex Queenstown or Wanaka not too much issue with a downtrade, but ex Westland another story.
The carnage here is going to be amongst the landlord set. The way commercial leases work encourages high debt levels, and when things go south the mess splatters far and wide.
After the '87 crash most of the carnage in Queenstown was in commercial property when a couple of large developer landlords went spectacularly tits up. It spread to take most of the construction businesses in town. Absolute mess.
There's super prime retail units in CBD that have been vacant for 18 months, and anything that becomes vacant doesn't relet. There will inevitably be rent reductions to get new tenants and cashflow, the resulting reduction in property value will put people underwater. The alternative is properties being kept vacant to hold values and equity up, but cashflow being cut right back, impacting the local economy in other ways. Both messy.
At the risk of seeming non-empathic, capitalism is famous for operating on a boom/bust cycle, so I don't get why any business operator would not operate in accord with that traditional philosophy.
So not doing prudent risk management is unwise. That said, I acknowledge that business folk are as inclined to fall into the rut of the legendary kiwi complacency stance as the rest of us.
Not pointing at you Graeme – just a general observation. So I thought it good practical socialism for the govt to subsidise all them businesses back in 2020. I'm unaware of them continuing that the past year. Perhaps, being neoliberals, they have reverted to doctrine and are letting market forces do a bit of culling.
Doctrinaire rogernomes have been thin on the ground lately. Even Prebs, mouthing off yet again the other day, doesn't seem to be pushing the party line by scolding the govt for doing the rescue thing. Perhaps pragmatism has infected him. Would be refreshing to hear him recycle James Shaw telling everyone when he became Greens leader "we have a hybrid economy now". Not just China doing both capitalism & socialism simultaneously! But that would be progress – too hard for those trying to revert to the old normal…
Our risk management profile pre covid was well in excess of most and that approach served us very well, we'd be in a very bad way if we hadn't taken that approach. We got there by pretty standard risk analysis approach to our business.
But we didn't talk about it around town much, we would have been seen as the nutcase fringe. Most businesses didn't see the possibility of a sudden and enduring stop to cashflow.
"There should be more help for people in both situations."
Only short term…..is 2 plus years short term?
Propping up unviable businesses is pouring good money after bad and ultimately dosnt help anyone (except perhaps those holding the debt)….the resources (mainly labour) are better used elsewhere, perhaps in the conversion to an energy efficient economy.
I think you can see that just throwing money at businesses doesn't work – it's much harder than this to help them. Hell you don't even know if you can help them.
Much the same with people, helping them as individuals is hard, although for different reasons. The left would be smart to be more honest about this.
Yes it is hard…and not everyone will be able to transfer, but id suggest if you have a choice between no job and a job youve never considered, most will take the later option…especially those with a significant working life ahead of them…..the govs role is to enable that transfer.
Ultimately those non viable jobs will dissapear anyway.
Yes I agree with this. The best help we can offer people is to reduce or eliminate the stupid problems they face. It's rarely just one thing that takes someone out, it's usually a cascade of irksome idiot things that go wrong one after another – until the bottom drops out and they cannot cope with the complexity anymore.
And none of this needs to be overcomplex. If we simply went and talked to say a 1000 kiwis living on the bottom of the ladder, and listened to their life stories – I bet you could come up with a list of 10 common obstacles they kept on tripping over, and 3 of them would account for 80% of them.
What is our greatest current limitation?…..labour.
Why would we support people in non viable industries (hoping against hopethey will become viable) when we need, desperately skills in other areas?,,,,the alternative is to import (either directly or indirectly) the wherewithal.
Yep…no problem with short term support, but sooner or later (and the sooner the better) we have to accept that a lot of these businesses are going to fold.
Thinking more of reasonable welfare rates or even a decent UBI.
Which is why I've advocated for a UBI since forever. The universal feature is the psychologically most important aspect.
The difference is that any targeted benefit or intervention is always received at the wrong end of an inequality gradient. It's always conditional, always subject to rules and always precarious. It undermines human agency.
By contrast a UBI is just there – as of right. It's entirely over to you to make what you will of it. It respects and develops personal agency, that will to find a way out of the difficulties and problems that have kept you at the bottom of the ladder.
The difficulty in a quick exit is the lease situation. Most commercial leases have 3 – 7 year terms and personal guarantees. That makes exit rather tricky and any government exit programme ripe for abuse. Once the government starts wading into commercial contracts all hell will break loose and unaffected businesses will climb aboard looking for a slice of the action.
I think the way it's being handled is probably the best option going for the stuffed businesses and owners, the landlords, and banks. It's giving businesses a chance of rebuilding, and things a chance to come right.
Now that it's apparent that inbound tourism won't be happening in the next few years, or maybe longer due to ongoing covid, changes in airline thinking and uncertainty around travel insurance, 'coming right' isn't going to save New Zealand tourism from it's complete loss of social license in country. Unfortunately a lot of the industry leaders aren't ready to accept this and are still demanding immediate opening of our borders.
Who's going to come here if we do is moot, Australia's opening blew up in their face with Australia currently on most countries' high risk list, making travel uninsurable and mandating a spell in MIQ on return.
That commercial lease problem may be a bit overstated however…especially considering we are 2 years into an emegency situation,and the fact many of those leases will have considerably less time to run.The impact on commercial real estate values may be problematic, but then investment carries risk and the returns generally compensate…..and as with the labour it will occur anyway even if a bit delayed.
a lot of what you say was coming already(commercial buildings untenanted,etc), with things like art galleries(i have had two ),antique shops etc, going the internet way, and not bothering with an overpriced shop, with all its extra costs. covid has just condensed a few years of what was inevitable into 18 months . got nothing to do with politics even though far too many think it is.
Tourist / travel retail is a lot more tactile and interactive than more known things like antiques. We've had a lot of success online with some lines, and a complete failure with others.
We have one line that has some New Zealanders disclaim "Oh, it's just a fucking tourist shop", and storm out, if they happen to glance a piece hidden in the corner, but going gangbusters online to New Zealanders. Having trouble figuring that one out.
A top Trump appointee repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to internal emails obtained by a House watchdog and shared with POLITICO.
“There is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the non-high risk groups expose themselves to the virus. PERIOD," then-science adviser Paul Alexander wrote on July 4 to his boss, Health and Human Services assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo, and six other senior officials.
"Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc. have zero to little risk….so we use them to develop herd…we want them infected…" Alexander added.
Along with the virus we also seem to get this novel idea that humans, at least from a public health perspective, have no immune system. Quite the breakthrough!
Along with all of that it would do again good to remind ourselfs that the lockdown and all the other jazz was not implemented to prevent death per se but to prevent our healthcare system from collapsing. What did we call it when it all started? Flattening the curve of infections.
In the meantime in OZ the healthcare system is starting to 'fray' at the edges as it is elsewhere with to many patients coming in, staff getting sick in huge numbers etc etc etc.
A mild sickness can be causing the same damage albeit slowly then a hard sickness causes fast.
Well the problem with lies is that they always catch up with you and the problem with this one is that Australia — or at least the more sensible parts of it — is now finally actually doing what we were supposed to be doing more than a year-and-a-half ago.
The goal is now to simply to keep Covid numbers to a level that doesn’t overwhelm our hospital system, just as the original goal had been before it was hijacked by the states on the advice of more nervous epidemiologists.
Think I would always listen to health experts rather than the reckons of a right wing libertarian journalist working for a Murdoch newspaper. Hildebrand's article in news.com.au is all over the place. He comes to the conclusion that a high vaccination has kept Delta at bay quite successfully and should keep infected people out of hospital in the Omicron surge, but fails to state what exactly would have kept the virus from overwhelming hospitals before vaccination. He was criticized for labelling Qld and WA as "extremist states" for keeping borders controlled in September this year, but failed to mention (like Scomo) that Coalition controlled states like Tassie and SA did exactly the same.
Our immune system here is so weakened that we had a major RSV outbreak just a few month ago that also caused some death, and that was simply just a bog standard illness that comes around every year. And that outbreak damn near got our underfunded, understaffed, and under resources health care system to almost breaking point.
Just as a reminder, our hospital system is still underfunded, understaffed and under resourced. Nothing has changed on that since the arrival of Covid.
The immune systems of healthy people are not routinely firing on all cylinders.
I've always thought that the way public health dealt with immune systems was to look at it the other way by counting disease or 'unhealth'. So in a pandemic we look at co-morbitities that impinge on a healthy immune system so:
age
physical fitness
obesity
known weaknesses of circulatory and breathing systems.
people who are known to have immune systems that are weakened by cancer, radiotherapy, some diseases.
Once these parts of the population are looked at then perhaps what is left are those who have more or less functioning immune systems. In the normal run these people could be expected to get a disease and if it did not kill them would leave them with antibodies to combat the next round.
Early on in the Covid journey it was found that the antibodies left in those initial infections were neither strong nor long lasting so any faint idea about herd immunity being possible or the ability to stand up to variants had to be put aside. Covid was such serious illness for many people that it was not ethical really to be happy for the disease to run through our populations and possibly give them immunity which would be weak and shortlived.
Early on in the Covid journey it was found that the antibodies left in those initial infections were neither strong nor long lasting
Found out by who? Reported by who? Any reliable source for the contention that naturally acquired immunity is weak?
In your comment you already covered off the vulnerable, but then go on to say
Covid was such serious illness for many people that…
No it wasn't. Somewhere in the region of 80 or 90% of deaths from Covid were in the oldest of age groups, with the rest falling mostly on those with serious co-morbities.
Covid was such serious illness for many people that…
No it wasn't. Somewhere in the region of 80 or 90% of deaths from Covid were in the oldest of age groups, with the rest falling mostly on those with serious co-morbities.
Older people and people with health vulnerabilities still add up to a lot of people. It's not just those that died, it's those that got long covid, and it's those that would have died and got long covid if we'd allowed covid to run free.
Also, it's a fucking shitty way to die. Public health specialises in reducing such things as much as possible.
Yet again (ie, not for the first time in response to one of my comments) you're implying I suggest (or have suggested) letting covid "run free"
I've never suggested such a thing, so please just stop insinuating I have.
Shanreagh was suggesting Covid was a serious illness for those with no identifiable vulnerabilities. It isn't and wasn't.
We could have and should have treated covid with the leaky vaccines in the same way we would have treated any other viral outbreak if all we had was leaky vaccines – ie, targeted use.
By not doing that, and by also insisting on universal booster shots, we've been playing Russian Roulette with the possibility of creating a truly killer virus. That we've got Omicron and not some scythe variant is down to dumber than dumb luck (at least for now) given the way we have deliberately messed with the viruses environment.
Then again the actual situation may have been more complex that a crude comparison would suggest.
Among the first 15 deaths due to covid-19 in Stockholm County, six were reported, by the Swedish-Somali medical society, to be of Somali origin (March 24). Considering that only 0.84% of the Stockholm County population was born in Somalia (n=8,178 by December 2019) this is an astonishing high rate.
And that's dated very early on, I've seen it claimed that during those first two waves almost 50% of the deaths were from this tiny group consisting of less than 1% of the whole population. That's potentially an enormous confounding factor.
Also it's worth noting the Finnish public health system has long been way ahead of the rest of the world on VitD supplementation And the Norwegians eat substantially more oily fish in their diet than their Nordic neigbours and especially the unfortunate Somali population in Sweden who retained their traditional diets.
This is just a small sample of the often obscure confounding factors that arise when making comparisons between countries.
It's only relevant to the comparison that joe90 was making between to 'Sweden's neighbouring countries' – presumably Norway and Finland. The assumption made in that claim that "the object was to kill two to three times more people /capita than your neighbours." is that the only difference between Sweden and it's neighbours was it's no-lockdowns policy.
But that isn't the case, there a number of other ways that these countries differ that may offer a stronger causal explanation. This is true of pretty much all comparisons between countries and populations everywhere, which is why we constantly get caught up in these heated threads that go nowhere useful.
Also, I would point out Sweden's mortality figures are going to be inflated as more of the virus is spread through the populace, so more chance of it being picked up by tests, and associated loosely with deaths.
Then there's the impact on mortality of turning society upside down for a single disease, which we seem to be refusing to look at too.
If you carefully read the reference maui gave, the answer to your question is pretty much yes.
Continuation of the line, which was fit by the statistical model, yields the following estimates: In 2018–2019 there was “mortality deficit” in Sweden of 300 per million people (-3.3%) whereas in 2019–2020, the pandemic year, there was excess mortality of 364 per million people (+4.1%). Excess mortality following mortality deficit, and vice versa, are well known and expected, as the main source of mortality is an elderly population with limited life expectancy. (The sequence “excess after deficit” is, of course, better than the reverse order.)
Assuming the excess mortality in 2019–2020 “fully balanced” the mortality deficit in the previous flu year, the true excess mortality in Sweden was less than 1% (about 700 deaths).
I’m not trying to be dogmatic about this – quite the contrary – what I am saying is how easy it is to reach wrong conclusions from data. And it’s not just ordinary people like us who struggle with this.
No, that's not what Sweden has been doing for some time. They ditched the 'herd immunity let it rip' approach after logarithmic covid infection rates early last year. Their government restrictions and recommended controls have been similar but tougher in some aspects than NZ's for most of 2021, and some rules regarding large gatherings remain stricter than here.
Sweden’s response to the coronavirus pandemic has been about taking the right measures at the right time, because different measures are effective at different points in time. The country’s response has been partly based on voluntary action. For example, rather than enforce a nationwide lockdown, the authorities have given recommendations: to stay home if you've got symptoms, to keep a distance to others, to avoid public transport if possible, etc.
You will also note that the most recent round of restrictions dates from just a week ago in response to the very rapid rate of increase in Omicron infections.
From 23 December 2021, the following restrictions and recommendations apply, according to the Swedish Health Agency:
Overall quite different to NZ and many other nations. Still essentially based on trusting their people to mostly do what is personally sensible for them.
In 2020, Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell initially criticised mandatory measures like mask wearing in shops and occupancy limits in public indoor spaces favouring promotion of voluntary social distancing, mask wearing and other infection prevention controls.
"You will also note that the most recent round of restrictions dates from just a week ago in response to the very rapid rate of increase in Omicron infections"
This statement is true only in so far as additional restrictions have been imposed in Sweden a week ago
"both the Swedish King and Prime Minister claimed they felt that the large number of reported Covid deaths meant that Sweden's COVID-19 strategy had been a failure."
As of 28 December 2021, there had been 1,303,663 confirmed cases and 15,297 deaths from Covid19 in Sweden
"the Swedish government passed legislationlimiting freedom of assembly by temporarily banning gatherings of over 50 individuals, banning people from visiting nursing homes, and physically closing secondary schools and universities."
In April 2021: Sweden's Prime Minister Stefan Lofven told a news conference.
"When the strain on healthcare eases and the spread of infection drops, only then will the government be ready to start lifting restrictions, but we are not there yet."
These ongoing restrictions which continued throughout 2021 included: mandatory closure of restaurants at 8.30 pm, shops and malls only allowed limited numbers of customers. Nursing homes, secondary schools, sport venues and public pools remained closed to visitors.
Still your implication above that Sweden's lockdowns were similar or tougher than NZ's doesn't stack up.
From your quotes above, it looks like they acted to protect the elderly in nursing homes, and put in place some restrictions that would limit super-spreader events in indoor settings. All pretty obvious stuff I think most people could live with. And while they have seen some anti-restriction protests, they were small beer compared to what we've seen even in Australia.
I stated that Sweden had controls and recommendations in place throughout 2021, (some of these were similar to, and some were tougher than NZ controls), and that these controls are not consistent with the 'herd immunity' approach
Not seeing it sorry. If they didn't have multi-month lockdowns then they got nowhere near NZ's control measures.
Everything they have done is consistent with gradually developing herd immunity over time and ensuring they kept the curve sufficiently flattened to prevent health system overload. There was never a goal of 'elimination'.
When Sweden first went down this path the pushback was immense, the media and blogs were full of it, how it was going to lead to catastrophe and 100,000's of deaths. And when this never happened and their current trajectory shows the strategy worked, the narrative gets switched to claiming they did the same as everyone else after all.
All I am saying is that Sweden did not get to where it is following a herd immunity strategy. This initial approach had to be modified.
If there is anything that is "unsaid" in what I've written, it is that NZ's and Sweden's Covid19 strategies have got closer. And that is not a controversial statement – as Sweden clearly introduced controls, and in NZ we have clearly moved away from 'lockdowns' as a first response
If you think I'm saying anything else, spell this out
I’m not going to war with you RL, and I don’t know why you’ve made this personal
If your interpretation of 'herd immunity strategy' is 'do nothing and let it rip' – at no point did Sweden commit to anything like that. They always said they were going to calibrate their response to the circumstances – and to use the least force necessary to keep the curve flattened.
But they never committed to 'elimination' and never to mass lockdowns. Like NZ did.
The nine metrics used to calculate the Stringency Index are: school closures; workplace closures; cancellation of public events; restrictions on public gatherings; closures of public transport; stay-at-home requirements; public information campaigns; restrictions on internal movements; and international travel controls.
You can explore changes in these individual metrics across the world in the sections which follow in this article.
The index on any given day is calculated as the mean score of the nine metrics, each taking a value between 0 and 100. See the authors’ full description of how this index is calculated.
The upshot is that the calculated numbers are:
NZ : 65.28
Sweden: 19.44
NZ's lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's.
RL (@11:21 pm), you linked to the COVID-19 Stringency Index (in this thread @9:58 pm), and presented the 14th Dec. 2021 (for NZ) and the 4th Dec. 2021 (for Sweden) data point to compare the stringency of NZ's and Sweden's responses to COVID-19.
NZ : 65.28
Sweden: 19.44
NZ's lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's.
NZ's lockdowns were not around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's, and that's all I have to say about that. "You think we can't spot what you are doing here?"
Take it up with the source of the data, I'm sure they'll appreciate your input.
It’s a great site for data. Click on the NZ map to display the timeline (chart) of NZ’s COVID-19 stringency response, and then add (overlay) Sweden's COVID-19 stringency response chart – too simple?
If you prefer to believe “NZ’s lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden’s“, then go right ahead – just don’t understand why you would continue to cling to that particular fiction.
Well they are at the moment – nice for them no? And the chart clearly shows NZ went through some periods of extreme controls that Sweden never did and it's not at all likely any NZ govt could reimpose them if it wanted to.
Yes the two countries have taken different paths through this pandemic, as pretty much all nations have. But patently Sweden never went down the extreme path of 'elimination'.
And, as those overlaid charts show (thanks for the link), from 8 June – 11 Aug 2020, and again for most of the period from 24 Nov 2020 to 1 June 2021 (about eight months all up), Sweden's COVID-19 Stringency Index was ~3 times that of NZ's. Whereas NZ's Stringency Index has been 3 – 4 times Sweden's for maybe the last three months.
And yet an unquestioning reader might actually believe this
NZ : 65.28
Sweden: 19.44
NZ's lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's.
What these charts suggest (to me) is that our govt’s strategy to limit the freedom of COVID-19 to spread, injure, and kill (0.001%) has been more dynamic than Sweden's (0.15%). Well done Team – there’s really no place I’d rather be.
You can quibble all you like – the reality is that Sweden never went to the extreme 96% levels of control that NZ did for many months.
And is still maintaining at very high levels. And that is the sole point of the thread that you seem to be determined to derail for reasons that seem more petty than pertinent.
Well done Team – there’s really no place I’d rather be.
Have you any idea what a smug prick that makes you sound? In the meantime my 96 yr old father has gone through his second Christmas isolated and alone in his rest home. As have many thousands of others.
You can quibble all you like – the reality is that Sweden never went to the extreme 96% levels of control that NZ did for many months.
Absolutely agree, but that's not what we're quibbling about, is it?
According to the data you linked to, this comment is inaccurate:
The upshot is that the calculated numbers are:
NZ : 65.28
Sweden: 19.44
NZ's lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's.
I wouldn't harp on about it so were it not for the fact that we're in the middle of a pandemic, and I hope we can both agree that dissemination of misinformation should be discouraged.
Perhaps we could agree on a less inaccurate statement.
During early periods in the pandemic, Sweden’s COVID-19 Stringency Index was about 3 times higher than NZ’s for a cumulative period of about 8 months. Since October 2021, NZ’s lockdowns have been at least 3 times more stringent than Sweden’s.
Of course that doesn’t have quite the impact of the original, but it is more accurate, imho.
In the meantime my 96 yr old father has gone through his second Christmas isolated and alone in his rest home.
Thanks; that helps me to understand where you're coming from. I'll read your future opinions relating to the pandemic with that in mind. We've all had to make sacrifices during this pandemic, some more than others. Dad gets out of MIQ on Tuesday evening, pending a fourth negative test result.
You can quibble all you like – the reality is that Sweden never went to the extreme 96% levels of control that NZ did for many months.
Two more points – it's a stringency 'index', not a percentage, i.e. an index value of 100 does not equate to 100% control (whatever that might entail.) The highest Strigency Index value for China is 82, and ~70 for Sweden. Plus NZ has not spent "many months" at "extreme 96% [sic] levels of control" – it was 55 days, tops.
Comparing NZ's and Sweden's Covid-19 Stringency Index since NZ adopted a strict (and imho prudent) suite of precautions (to curb Covid-19's freedom) in late March 2020, NZ has 'enjoyed' two extended periods (14 May – 11 Aug 2020, and 31 Aug 2020 – 15 Aug 2021) during which NZ's stringency index has been less than Sweden's.
That's more than 14 out of 21 months, during which time (according to Swedish health authorities) ~0.15% of their population tragically died from COVID-19 infections (cf. 0.001% in NZ).
Not that it's a competition, of course, but there are those who will attempt to spin these comparisons to belittle the efforts and evident achievements of team Kiwi – to what end I could only guess.
but there are those who will attempt to spin these comparisons to belittle the efforts and evident achievements of team Kiwi – to what end I could only guess.
Pay attention to the thread. It arose in the context of locus claiming that Sweden's COVID response had been equal to or even more severe than NZ's. There was never any attempt to belittle anything NZ has achieved.
during which time (according to Swedish health authorities) ~0.15% of their population has tragically died from COVID-19 infections (cf. 0.001% in NZ).
Again you may want to pay attention to the thread. maui above gave this reference that looks at this number from a more nuanced perspective.
I know that Mark Richardson is very much persona non grata around here, but as a cricket commentator, he really is class, and a genuinely funny chap. Happy New Year, everybody.
Compared to the fake versions spread across social media (yeah… Hipkins has given the word spread a whole new meaning 😮 ) here is a relatively impeccable Covid prediction from the real scientists and experts – not the fake versions:
I'm quite surprised to read such a level headed and sensible piece in a legacy publication.
On the social front – Vaccination of 5 yo and up put on hold? Passports gone by the coming winter at the very latest? Mandating workplaces in an Omicron environment impermissible?
The only way I can imagine things going awry is if the already observed and studied possible phenomenon of administering a leaky vaccine on a universal basis kicks in.
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In today’s digital world, screenshots have become an indispensable tool for communication and documentation. Whether you need to capture an important email, preserve a website page, or share an error message, screenshots allow you to quickly and easily preserve digital information. If you’re an Asus laptop user, there are several ...
A factory reset restores your Gateway laptop to its original factory settings, erasing all data, apps, and personalizations. This can be necessary to resolve software issues, remove viruses, or prepare your laptop for sale or transfer. Here’s a step-by-step guide on how to factory reset your Gateway laptop: Method 1: ...
“You talking about me?”The neoliberal denigration of the past was nowhere more unrelenting than in its depiction of the public service. The Post Office and the Railways were held up as being both irremediably inefficient and scandalously over-manned. Playwright Roger Hall’s “Glide Time” caricatures were presented as accurate depictions of ...
Roger Partridge writes – When the Coalition Government took office last October, it inherited a country on a precipice. With persistent inflation, decades of insipid productivity growth and crises in healthcare, education, housing and law and order, it is no exaggeration to suggest New Zealand’s first-world status was ...
Rob MacCulloch writes – In 2022, the Curriculum Centre at the Ministry of Education employed 308 staff, according to an Official Information Request. Earlier this week it was announced 202 of those staff were being cut. When you look up “The New Zealand Curriculum” on the Ministry of ...
Chris Bishop’s bill has stirred up a hornets nest of opposition. Photo: Lynn Grieveson for The KākāTL;DR: The six things that stood out to me in Aotearoa’s political economy around housing, poverty and climate from the last day included:A crescendo of opposition to the Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill is ...
Monday left me brokenTuesday, I was through with hopingWednesday, my empty arms were openThursday, waiting for love, waiting for loveThe end of another week that left many of us asking WTF? What on earth has NZ gotten itself into and how on earth could people have voluntarily signed up for ...
Hello! Here comes the Saturday edition of More Than A Feilding, catching you up on the past week’s editions.State of humanity, 20242024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?Full story Share ...
Determining the hardest sport in the world is a subjective matter, as the difficulty level can vary depending on individual abilities, physical attributes, and experience. However, based on various factors including physical demands, technical skills, mental fortitude, and overall accomplishment, here is an exploration of some of the most challenging ...
The allure of sport transcends age, culture, and geographical boundaries. It captivates hearts, ignites passions, and provides unparalleled entertainment. Behind the spectacle, however, lies a fascinating world of financial investment and expenditure. Among the vast array of competitive pursuits, one question looms large: which sport carries the hefty title of ...
Introduction Pickleball, a rapidly growing paddle sport, has captured the hearts and imaginations of millions around the world. Its blend of tennis, badminton, and table tennis elements has made it a favorite among players of all ages and skill levels. As the sport’s popularity continues to surge, the question on ...
Abstract: Soccer, the global phenomenon captivating millions worldwide, has a rich history that spans centuries. Its origins trace back to ancient civilizations, but the modern version we know and love emerged through a complex interplay of cultural influences and innovations. This article delves into the fascinating journey of soccer’s evolution, ...
Tinting car windows offers numerous benefits, including enhanced privacy, reduced glare, UV protection, and a more stylish look for your vehicle. However, the cost of window tinting can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article provides a comprehensive guide to help you understand how much you can expect to ...
The pungent smell of gasoline in your car can be an alarming and potentially dangerous problem. Not only is the odor unpleasant, but it can also indicate a serious issue with your vehicle’s fuel system. In this article, we will explore the various reasons why your car may smell like ...
Tree sap can be a sticky, unsightly mess on your car’s exterior. It can be difficult to remove, but with the right techniques and products, you can restore your car to its former glory. Understanding Tree Sap Tree sap is a thick, viscous liquid produced by trees to seal wounds ...
The amount of paint needed to paint a car depends on a number of factors, including the size of the car, the number of coats you plan to apply, and the type of paint you are using. In general, you will need between 1 and 2 gallons of paint for ...
Jump-starting a car is a common task that can be performed even in adverse weather conditions like rain. However, safety precautions and proper techniques are crucial to avoid potential hazards. This comprehensive guide will provide detailed instructions on how to safely jump a car in the rain, ensuring both your ...
Graham Adams writes about the $55m media fund — When Patrick Gower was asked by Mike Hosking last week what he would say to the many Newstalk ZB callers who allege the Labour government bribed media with $55 million of taxpayers’ money via the Public Interest Journalism Fund — and ...
Note: this blog post has been put together over the course of the week I followed the happenings at the conference virtually. Should recordings of the Great Debates and possibly Union Symposia mentioned below, be released sometime after the conference ends, I'll include links to the ones I participated in. ...
The following was my submission made on the “Fast Track Approvals Bill”. This potential law will give three Ministers unchecked powers, un-paralled since the days of Robert Muldoon’s “Think Big” projects.The submission is written a bit tongue-in-cheek. But it’s irreverent because the FTAB is in itself not worthy of respect. ...
One Could Reduce Child Poverty At No Fiscal CostFollowing the Richardson/Shipley 1990 ‘redesign of the welfare state’ – which eliminated the universal Family Benefit and doubled the rate of child poverty – various income supplements for families have been added, the best known being ‘Working for Families’, introduced in 2005. ...
Buzz from the Beehive A few days ago, Point of Order suggested the media must be musing “on why Melissa is mute”. Our article reported that people working in the beleaguered media industry have cause to yearn for a minister as busy as Melissa Lee’s ministerial colleagues and we drew ...
1. What was The Curse of Jim Bolger?a. Winston Peters b. Soon after shaking his hand, world leaders would mysteriously lose office or shuffle off this mortal coilc. Could never shake off the Mother of All Budgetsd. Dandruff2. True or false? The Chairman of a Kiwi export business has asked the ...
It appears Nicola Willis is about to pull the rug out from under the feet of local communities still dealing with the aftermath of last year’s severe weather, and local councils relying on funding to build back from these disasters. ...
The Government is making short-sighted changes to the Resource Management Act (RMA) that will take away environmental protection in favour of short-term profits, Labour’s environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said today. ...
Labour welcomes the release of the report into the North Island weather events and looks forward to working with the Government to ensure that New Zealand is as prepared as it can be for the next natural disaster. ...
The Labour Party has called for the New Zealand Government to recognise Palestine, as a material step towards progressing the two-State solution needed to achieve a lasting peace in the region. ...
Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
The Government’s newly announced review of methane emissions reduction targets hints at its desire to delay Aotearoa New Zealand’s urgent transition to a climate safe future, the Green Party said. ...
The Government must commit to the Maitai School building project for students with high and complex needs, to ensure disabled students from the top of the South Island have somewhere to learn. ...
Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey and his Government colleagues have made a meal of their mental health commitments, showing how flimsy their efforts to champion the issue truly are, says Labour Mental Health spokesperson Ingrid Leary. ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
“China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector. "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sam Whiting, Lecturer – Creative Industries, University of South Australia Shutterstock Everyone has a favourite band, or a favourite composer, or a favourite song. There is some music which speaks to you, deeply; and other music which might be the current ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Olli Hellmann, Associate Professor of Political Science, University of Waikato Getty Images When New Zealanders commemorate Anzac Day on April 25, it’s not only to honour the soldiers who lost their lives in World War I and subsequent conflicts, but also ...
A leaked document shows the Canterbury/Waitaha arm of health agency Te Whatu Ora is scurrying to save $13.3 million by July. The “financial sustainability target”, which was “allocated” to Waitaha, is consistent with what’s happening in other districts, says Sarah Dalton, executive director of the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists. ...
A look at the state of the previous government’s affordable housing scheme, and what could come next.Remind me: What’s KiwiBuild again?First announced in 2012, KiwiBuild was a flagship policy of the Labour Party heading into both its 2014 and 2017 election campaigns. With Jacinda Ardern as prime minister, ...
Labour in opposition will be shocked to learn which party had six years in power but squandered any chance to make real change. Grant Robertson’s valedictory speech was a predictably entertaining trip down memory lane. The acid-tongued incoming Otago University chancellor administered a sick burn to the coalition government. He ...
Taiwan’s semiconductor industry is seen some as its ‘silicon shield’ against invasion – but how will overseas expansion affect that protection? The post The state of Taiwan’s silicon shield appeared first on Newsroom. ...
There’s relief for building owners bending under the weight of earthquake strengthening rules – and costs – that came into force seven years ago. Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk has announced a scheduled 2027 review of the earthquake-prone building regulations will now start this year. Owners will also get ...
Opinion: It has been announced that nine percent of roles at Oranga Tamariki will be disestablished, presumably to help fund the tax cuts promised by the coalition Government. I am reminded of the graphics used to illustrate pandemic events, where five thousand people are standing in a field and then ...
After more than two sleepless days, running through savage terrain, Greig Hamilton didn’t know if he was going to finish one of the most gruelling psychological assaults in sport. He was metres away from the finish line, a yellow gate made famous in a Netflix documentary; a race he’d dreamed ...
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The following interview with former Green Party MP Sue Kedgley came about because she features in the new memoir Hine Toa by activist Ngāhuia te Awekōtuku; the two knew each other at the University of Auckland in the early 70s, when they were both took on leadership roles in the ...
COMMENTARY:By Murray Horton New Zealand needs to get tough with Israel. It’s not as if we haven’t done so before. When NZ authorities busted a Mossad operation in Auckland 20 years ago, the government didn’t say: “Oh well, Israel has the right to defend itself.” No, it arrested, prosecuted, ...
NEWSMAKERS:By Vijay Narayan, news director of FijiVillage Blessed to be part of the University of Fiji (UniFiji) faculty to continue to teach and mentor those who want to join our noble profession, and to stand for truth and justice for the people of the country. I was privileged to ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Peter Martin, Visiting Fellow, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University Three weeks from now, some of us will be presented with a mountain of budget papers, and just about all of us will get to hear about them on radio, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dan Lowry, Ice Sheet & Climate Modeller, GNS Science Hugh Chittock/Antarctica New Zealand, CC BY-SA As the climate warms and Antarctica’s glaciers and ice sheets melt, the resulting rise in sea level has the potential to displace hundreds of millions of ...
The government's plan to reintroduce a three strikes regime is being strongly opposed by lawyers, who argue there is no evidence it reduces crime or helps people rehabilitate. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dan Jerker B. Svantesson, Professor specialising in Internet law, Bond University Do Australian courts have the right to decide what foreign citizens, located overseas, view online on a foreign-owned platform? Anyone inclined to answer “yes” to this question should perhaps also ask ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Giovanni E Ferreira, NHMRC Emerging Leader Research Fellow, Institute of Musculoskeletal Health, University of Sydney Last week in a post on X, owner of the platform Elon Musk recommended people look into disc replacement if they’re experiencing severe neck or back pain. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By David Hayward, Emeritus Professor of Public Policy, RMIT University anek.soowannaphoom/Shutterstock NSW Treasurer Daniel Mookhey caught the headlines yesterday, courtesy of a blistering speech condemning the latest GST carve-up. New South Wales, he claimed, would be A$11.9 billion worse off over the ...
While police are "broadly in favour", the government's proposed anti-gang laws are facing pushback from lawyers, rights groups and former gang members. ...
While police are "broadly in favour", the government's proposed anti-gang laws are facing pushback from lawyers, rights groups and former gang members. ...
By Miriam Zarriga in Port Moresby Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has arrived at Kokoda Station, Northern province, at the start of his state visit to Papua New Guinea. Both Albanese and Prime Minister James Marape will meet with the locals and the Northern Provincial government before they begin their ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Chris Wallace, Professor, School of Politics Economics & Society, Faculty of Business Government & Law, University of Canberra Shutterstock An important principle was invoked by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese last week in defence of the government’s Future Made in Australia industry ...
By Patrick Decloitre, RNZ Pacific correspondent French Pacific desk Security forces reinforcements were sent from France ahead of two rival marches in the capital Nouméa today, at the same time and only two streets away one from the other. One march, called by Union Calédonienne party (a component of the ...
A poll last August found that just 16% of New Zealanders oppose bringing back the ‘Three Strikes’ law. The nationwide poll of 1,000 New Zealanders was commissioned by Family First NZ and carried out by Curia Market Research. ...
The solo show from Ana Scotney is both sprawling and intimate, and a must-see, writes Mad Chapman. In the opening moments of Scattergun: After the Death of Rūaumoko, writer and performer Ana Scotney lays out the groundwork, literally. Silently moving around the square stage, Scotney is not so much dancing ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kate Burridge, Professor of Linguistics, Monash University Who makes the words? Why are trees called trees and why are shoes called shoes and who makes the names? – Elliot, age 5, Eltham, Victoria Good question Elliot! Let’s start with ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Stephen Duckett, Honorary Enterprise Professor, School of Population and Global Health, and Department of General Practice and Primary Care, The University of Melbourne at amRawpixel.com/Shutterstock Roles of health professionals are still unfortunately often stuck in the past. That is, before the ...
COMMENTARY:By Malcolm Evans Last week’s leaked New York Times staff directive, as to what words can and cannot be used to describe the carnage Israel is raining on Palestinians, is proof positive, since those reports are published verbatim here in New Zealand, that our understanding of the conflict is ...
In the case of New Zealand, the results confirm that there is no popular support for the vicious austerity program being imposed by the National Party-led government, which is backed in all fundamental respects by the opposition Labour Party. ...
The ‘Vampire’ singer has never visited our part of the world, but that might all be about to change. We assess the evidence.Olivia Rodrigo’s Guts World Tour is pulling in massive crowds as it whips around the US and Europe, even helping to catapult regular supporting act Chappell Roan ...
Testing of drinking water in rural Canterbury over the weekend by Greenpeace revealed that several public town supplies were reaching levels of nitrate above 5 mg/L - the threshold which a growing body of scientific evidence has linked to increased ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rohan Fisher, Information Technology for Development Researcher, Charles Darwin University It may come as a surprise to hear 2023 was Australia’s biggest bushfire season in more than a decade. Fires burned across an area eight times as big as the 2019–20 Black ...
Responding to the Government’s announcement of changes to resource management laws, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, said: “These changes are a step in the right direction in terms of removing ideological and unworkable ...
More than two years after the Human Rights Council called for the establishment of a national human rights commission, such a body has yet to be formed. ...
Comment:An emergency management system with wide variations in performance, significant capability gaps, funding shortfalls and above all a setup that is not meeting the needs of New Zealanders at times of crisis. The Government’s inquiry into the response to Cyclone Gabrielle and other severe weather events in the North ...
Welcome to the whirring wonders of one brain trying to align its actions with its beliefs within a system it thinks is evil. My brain has been spiralling in a woke conundrum ever since I found out a bookshop I’ve never been to was shutting down. Good Books, a bookshop ...
We repeat our call for criminal justice policy to be based on evidence, something the three strikes regime neglects to recognise – with no evidence that it either reduces crime or assists with rehabilitation. ...
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Strangely, this was enabled by PM John Ballance, via the Land for Settlements Act 1892. Ballance was a supporter of Maori rights!
One suspects the paradox of Ballance was produced by tacit racism. Or the guy was schizoid! I can't think of any other explanation…
He was likely just a typical "enlightened" colonial administrator of his time; believing in colonisation as bringing civilisation to the natives, but with a kindly heart & a paternalistic sense of fairness perhaps rare among colonial government Ministers at that time, Dennis?
As native minister he pursued an enlightened, if somewhat paternalistic, policy aimed at protecting Māori land from private sale. He removed a substantial number of armed constabulary from sensitive areas on the grounds that their presence in large numbers aggravated tension between Māori and European. Ballance visited Māori throughout the North Island and made an effort to acquire some proficiency in their language.
It was at his suggestion that Horonuku Te Heuheu Tūkino IV of Ngāti Tūwharetoa gifted land in the central plateau of the North Island for the establishment of Tongariro National Park in 1887. But while his willingness to consult on Māori affairs enhanced Ballance's reputation as compared with that of his predecessor, John Bryce, he did not revise Bryce's policy of reducing expenditure on native affairs, and Māori hopes that Ballance's Native Land Administration Act 1886 would restore to them control of their land were not fulfilled.
Interesting to note that:
https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/2b5/ballance-john
Yes, I suspect you're right. Ballance did the balance – that required to retain governance for his party. Balancing the predominant settler sentiment against the progressive trend that was to culminate during the reign of his successor, Seddon, producing the only genuinely radical parliament we've ever had.
An archetypal liberal, represented in our era by folk like Ardern, Trudeau, Blair. Progress occurs incidentally, via retention of the status quo. Scratch the progressive veneer these folk paint upon themselves, and you reveal the conservative beneath.
Or. He had the attitudes and knowledge of his time.
While being a bit more aware of fairness to Māori, and Women, than many of his contemporaries.
Judging people by current cultural mores is both unfair and historically inaccurate.
Stuff's politicos have some interesting predictions for this year:
https://i.imgur.com/PDwrupX.gif
Matriarch dies aged 86:
https://twitter.com/aaronhoyland/status/1476616379591581696
Here's a morally righteous ‘bluecheck’ cultist to go with your dimwit ‘bluecheck’ cultist – 😉
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1476573494460698625?s=20
Agree with this 'Testing positive after refusing to get vaccinated? Different issue.'
I can understand that someone who had done everything they could to avoid Covid ie vaccines, masking physical distancing then getting it would be feeling sad, disappointed etc…..feeling guilty would not be beyond the bounds of possibility. Also anger at someone having given it to me.
lols true that
Replying to Arron Hoyland in AJ’s post. What a great point!
NZ Herald but not prominent in the headlines. Should be shouted from far and wide.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/icu-doctor-thanks-heroic-kiwis-for-protecting-health-system-from-covid-19-in-2021/LZZCYDHL5DSABHSZPXEVGU5TUQ/
Exactly, ianmac. If we want truth and trust we rely on facts for these. Facts and science drove the government's response, and we are able to trust and rely on that response.
How would we have endured in countries driven by other motivations? Where would we be in terms of reliability in trust and truth? We have only to look at the rabbit hole response from that fortunately few who have lost their sense of trust, truth and rationality.
They fear, fret and fulminate instead.
And thanks to our teachers who were able to graft into us enough sense of the value of science and reason for us to accept such a lead.
''It's not luck?"
I would beg to differ in some regards. For starters we are a very small country with a herd mentality thanks to our tall poppy syndrome. That was a great help for the government when they made decisions on the fly after the first lockdown. In fact I would say luck was a major factor behind Labour winning their first term election and their past Covid responses. To be fair we don't know what constraints their contract with Pfizer contained.
However, their luck has run out. Labour has a big problem looming. And that is this country will not tolerate another lockdown.
"Country won't tolerate another lock dowwn". Or you?
New Zealanders on the whole, will go with a lockdown if there is good reason for it. As we have seen.
Not this time – you can expect major disobedience should another lockdown be called. That will play into the hands of anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists. And our loving government will have little choice other than to call the army in? I said previously the proposed road blocks over the Xmas break may have been a flash point for trouble. I passed one outside Gisborne being taken down by police. Therefore it was no surprise to me when the idea of road blocks over the holiday break was scrapped. Wise heads had obviously done the numbers and implications of such action. They saved the country from violence in my opinion. However, there will be no such wriggle room should another lockdown be called. Either the government goes hardline… or anarchy rules. I have my popcorn ready.
Yes. There will be a noisy minority.
Just as we have now.
The majority will carry on with trying to keep things working, and people safe, as we always do.
Plans for the street party already laid in down this way.
The " anti vaxxers and conspiracy theorists" want "major disobedience" that would require calling the army in?
Kindly folk, all.
They're not roadblocks, they're checkpoints. Do you have any evidence that the police decided to not do them because they feared violence?
From the NZP website,
https://covid19.govt.nz/traffic-lights/life-at-red/travel-and-accommodation-at-red/travel-at-red/
Looks like they intend to shift to spot checkpoints at some point. Hardly a case for violence, it's normal this time of year to have such checkpoints for drink/driving.
I can't find anything about checkpoints in Gisborne being used, but they were requested and the police said no,
https://www.gisborneherald.co.nz/local-news/20211215/police-say-no-to-checkpoints/
Maybe the one you passed was for booze.
so people are hoping for a better 2022 than 2021
2021 was fine
deaths were no higher than normal
the roads were less clogged
the lands empty
the pressure was off
the economy boomed madly
sure, many people suffered some hard times due to covid, but really, the only reason it is news is because of its profile.. people suffer hard times always, but if you are alone in that then it is no news
bring on more of the same i say
sans masks but
"Sans masks." Shakespeare said it all. Everything else is commentary…."second childishness and mere oblivion; Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."
Well in our little part of Aotearoa 2022 is going to be absolutely devastating. 2021 was a year of people grasping from one false hope to the next, in the hope that 'normal' would return and their hopelessly unsustainable situation would recover and they weren't going to be totally wiped out.
In three months our lease ends and we walk away from a business that's been my partner's life for 50 years, and mine for 30. We'll be ok, I've got good income outside the business and the pension isn't far away, and we've been able to transition parts of the business into something that works online.
Two years ago we had 60 odd artists and suppliers around the country. About a third of them, mainly at the commercial end folded within months of the first lockdown and most at the artist end have had to find something else to do or gone back on a benefit as they don't fit in the work force. We and other galleries allowed them to lead independant, and in many cases quite prosperous lives, I can't see some of our artists recovering that.
When we leave our landlord will struggle to get another tenant, a lot of premises around town have become vacant, some really good, and none have re-let. The town's expected to have a commercial vacancy of 30-50% in the CBD in 6 months. Going to be fun for the landlord class as they find their equity evaporating, and the equity side of the equation works against rent reductions, the value of the property is based on rental return, reduce the rent by 50% and you're having a difficult discussion with the bank.
While you say "people suffer hard times always", generally that is the result of their own actions and decisions. I our current situation many people have had their lives turned upside down and have been asked to make incredible sacrifices so that the majority of Aotearoa can enjoy a pretty normal, and as you rightly say, pretty good 2021. I found that paragraph callous and disrespectful of the sacrifice many people have made to allow you to enjoy the past year. It's a comment more suited to far-right discourse.
it is absolutely not the result of their own actions and decisions john key and my point has flown over your head. I woukd guess you have never really suffered
And the whole “sacrifice” thing is also misplaced.
These things happen to people all the time. The fact of quantity is distorting. It should in fact highlight what so many always suffer but that doesn’t seem to be the case as shown by your “own actions and decisions ” bullshit
Maybe you should have another go at stating your point.
here are some "own actions and decisions "…
Setting up a whole industry and business entirely reliant on tourists and jet planes without thought to risk of pandemic war civil unrest or anything else similarly likely to bring it all to an instant stop.
Entirely predictable
Your own action and decision
How do you earn your living and do you ever go on holiday, or go to a bar or cafe?
If everyone followed your risk profile advice we wouldn't have many jobs or have much fun.
Such risk doesn't mean dont do it, does it.
It means have a plan for the eventuation.
Clearly
You know this
p.s. sorry if my posts yesterday came across a bit heartless, it seems to be a bad habit of mine. I do have sympathy for peoples plights, and suffered myself on more than one occasion the last 10 years. Mine were those solo risk eventuations which resulted in an entirely different reaction from people – no sympathy, more 'haha tall poppy' shit. Hence my posts. One person suffers, no sympathy, 100 people suffer, plemnty sympathy
p.p.s. I am in qtn now and see the things you describe. Also, my business is one of the riskiest known. Been at it for 30 years, suffering the ups and downs and all the shit that can be thrown
All good.
Yep, risk appraisal and mitigation is what makes or breaks a business, and at a personal level as well. Asking what you're not insured for can bring up some interesting answers.
Enjoy the energy of Whakatipu, and look at the human element as an expression of that energy, for better or worse.
I found that paragraph callous and disrespectful of the sacrifice many people have made to allow you to enjoy the past year.
A very good point that in all of our discussions around the 'greater collective good' – it's really nothing more than the sum of all individual experiences.
And it sure reads that your experience sucks.
It's the experience of our tourism, hospitality and entertainment industries. And the people who supply them.
Our prognosis will most likely be not that bad, we had strategies in place for a fairly significant upheaval, that's what 50 years in tourism prepares you for, they happen. We're looking around at a lot of businesses and individuals who weren't as prepared and there's going to be some tragedies. Hopefully appropriate support will be in place for them when they need it.
The weird thing about our situation is that pre covid we were 65% domestic from Paymark figures. Post covid over the counter sales and foot count have averaged 15% of pre covid. Our accountant says that's good around town for. But go 6km down the road to Frankton and the place is going off better than ever. Wider Queenstown's population has evidently increased by 20% and our home has increased in value by about 40%. Strange times.
But it's good to see the bar across the lane 3/4 full for lunch today for the first time PC. Would normally be chocka on NY day and they'd be turning the covers through as fast as they could. It's laid back and conversational, most people are masked and scanning and there's a nice vibe around the town.
Sorry to hear that Graeme. I usually read your comments, and your views about Queenstown in the past year or so have been more upbeat than this.
I was a teen in the 80s and my dad was caught up in the neoliberal redundancies more than once. We were ok, mum had her own career and the grandparents were well off, so we were never going to go hungry. But it was very hard on my dad personally.
Since then we've had a hard core subset of society that's been held in perpetual poverty. Not of their own doing but by economic design and political will. I found your sentence above to be more akin to right wing narratives, which surprised me.
As always I point to the inevitability of hard times because of climate (and now the pandemic, and possibly a big quake), and, not quite sure how to say this, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but there is a feeling of relief that the middle classes are now beginning to feel the pinch. Not in a revenge kind of way, but in a phew, maybe now we can get on with addressing poverty and climate because we all have a better idea of what it's like to have our lives disrupted and undermined outside of our control.
We stand on a knife edge, where NZ could fall one way into social breakdown and people retrenching to positions that shore up their own security (a natural enough reaction), or where we grasp the nettle and get on with figuring out how to create new economies that are resilient and sustainable. You always strike me as firmly in the latter camp.
Queenstown strikes me as a petri dish. Full of potential for going either way in its own style. Pity there's not a local body election this year.
I'm a victim of the late 80's bullshit as well and am excluded from any employment that involves a HR department. My partner is the same. So we've built a life outside that as best we can.
I very much get your point how people are drawn into the servitude of welfare. We had a couple of artists that we managed to build up to the point they were able to move out of the clutches of welfare and have a bit of space in their lives and budgets. Until the market for their work evaporated. They are now in the clutches of WINZ and anti vax / government / anything conspiracy theories and are completely unreachable. There has to be a better way that doesn't destroy people's self esteem. This is where I was coming from about the sacrifice is much wider than just the owners.
Resurgence Support did a lot to pay the rent in Queenstown CBD in latter part of 2021, and has kicked the eventual unwinding down the road by a few months. Tourism businesses have been putting in almost superhuman efforts to keep going and meet the obligations of leases, banks and their employees. In our case I'm out doing heavy physical work at 63 to still have a deficit of several thousand each month. Probably not that sustainable.
The country has done very well to be where we are now, better overall economy than most, and much less morbidity than most. But you're right we're on a knife edge right now and could easily be tipped into utter crap. Not helped by some whos aren't the sharpest tool in the shed doing their best to make that happen. Another surefire way to bring it about is to negate the sacrifices sectors have made to get us where we are and vilify people from those sectors. We're all in this together for better and for worse.
Whakatipu will endure and keep making those that live here strong. The challenge of creating an economy beyond property and tourism has been ongoing since humans first arrived here 800 years ago. We may be on the verge of something around innovation and tech, but I'm not holding my breath, think that will be just an extension of the past sector of short term residence / long term tourism where people move here, buy a house and live here, generally grossly under-employed, for a couple of years until they get sick of going backwards by a considerable amount each month proportional to lifestyle. A very dry acquaintance commented that the principal driver of the Queenstown economy was cashburn. You get to observe some spectacular blazes. There's really no well paying jobs here or high value industries.
I'm more hopeful of the green hydrogen thing spawning a major green industrial base in Southland and Otago.
All you need is an injection of foreign capital.
Your mayor Jim Boult lobbied for a special exclusion for foreign buyers re Queenstown…you know it makes…sense.
The "exemption" Boult lobbied for, and got as a work-around, was to ensure the continuation of several large developments at the very top of the market aimed primarily at overseas buyers. They were / are also major drivers of high wage jobs around the place, both during construction and ongoing operation of the properties. I and three of the nine people down our little road derive all or most of our income from this side of the local economy and if it went there'd be more carnage than we're seeing or likely to see from tourism's demise.
It's also being remarkably resilient, owners are keeping up the properties. But in most cases they've gotta, covenants…pages of
' They were / are also major drivers of high wage jobs around the place, both during construction and ongoing operation of the properties. '
Can you expand on that please.
The properties are very upmarket, large and complex, with top quality materials, fittings and workmanship. Not unusual to have 100 top tradespeople onsite. Construction can take a couple of years, they are big builds. The grounds will be to a similar standard.
Once they are finished they have to be maintained. Again this requires a lot of people to do it required standard. NDAs resemble small novels so you're looking at quite competent, and expensive people. It's not minimum wage stuff. One neighbour wears out a big topend golf course mower each year mowing the lawns on four of them, two of his clients are New Zealanders. He's very happy.
I see an elite community…attracting hedge fund managers ,oligarchs and the uber wealthy…in general…all NZ residents..of course.
What a great gain for NZ.
In my experience the offshore ones, on average, tend to put more in than they take out and can be quite good, sometimes exceptional. There's also a sizeable subset of the demographic that's born and bread in New Zealand, that can take a lot more than they give.
I'd much rather have Mutt Lange in the community than Russell Coutts
Well. It wasn't "his own actions" that sent a local drainlayer bust after an entire winter, a few years ago, where it was too wet for him to do any of his contracted jobs.
No one really cared about his, "misfortune".
Farmers at the same time got "flood relief"!
Tourist and other industries are being helped by the Government, with Covid. But they are still complaining it is not enough. What happened to Capitalism?
Capitalism is but a mere ideology,it has many manifestations..the most popular being…'crony Capitalism'.
It works for…some/few.
Capitalist principles worked for China's economic recovery…pity about the communism their population lives under. If you have a better ideology to live by, let's hear it?
Must agree about Crony Capitalism and help for farmers (KJT). If you go into business and fail that should be your tough luck. Of course WINZ benefits should go the same way…to be fair. And that's what I hear consistently from the Left – 'it's about fairness.'
Have you ever compared the rates of -homelessness,incarceration,gun crimes,fraud,human rights violations ,and corruption re China vs U.S.A…
You may be surprised…Chinese are free to leave…most americans can't afford the..air fare.
Yes, on the surface it would seem China is a clear winner, and I don't deny that in some regards. But, China is a ticking time bomb, held together by a repressive government. A government terrified by the thought their population may revolt. They are so paranoid their latest thing is making football players cover tattoos, or have them removed. Housing, pollution, very complex state and regional body political interfaces that are breaking down. The divide between city and rural folk are all becoming problems.
Chinese are never free to leave in the truest sense. They are expected to support the mother land no matter where they go. Remember the Chinese Party started in NZ that pledged their support to China? Migrants also leave relatives behind, and if worst comes to worst, China will send agents to the West to deal with identified trouble makers.
I follow a Chinese MMA fighter who now has to wear a clown mask every time he fights because he beats up Chinese Kung Fu masters to show them the western way of fighting is superior. His social credit score is now so low he can't use public transport and other amenities. His crime is disrespecting Chinese culture. I don't think America is there yet.
' A government terrified by the thought their population may revolt. '
You mean like what happened in the U.S when anarchists stormed Capitol Hill and the congressmen were in fear of their…lives!
Yes, like that…but on a larger scale.
The divide between city and rural folk are all becoming problems.
Much more of a problem than most westerners imagine. Here is a Caspian Report on the extent and implications of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_kBNRK7HxA
The most interesting observation being – that China is really two separate nations, one a highly developed country of wealthy coastal cities, the other a very poor one in the interior. And that if the former could exist on it's own it would by now be liberal, democratic nation just like say Taiwan.
But because it's geopolitical security needs demand the CCP retains control over the vast and relatively impoverished interior – it cannot let go of it's authoritarian overreach.
Excellent clip.
Do they have their own..'.rust belt'?
Oh dear ,should WA cede from Australia?-Texas from the U.S.A?
What an unusual circumstance…not!
Watch the clip – the comparison your making does not apply.
@Red…watched the whole thing…there is nothing unique about Chinas metro/rural divide,the regional wealth variations exist in most countries.
The conclusions made are facile and irrelevant.
Maybe they should build a wall…and get ..Mexico to pay ..for it.
most americans can't afford the..air fare.
Median US income is around U$67,000. Air fares are not that expensive.
However to be fair the official 'poverty rate is around 11% so yes there are a lot of Americans living it tough. But this is nowhere near 'most'.
40 million on food stamps out of a population of over 300 million…means you are correct…sorry.
Are you sure about that?
State control and Socialism worked well for the USA after WW2. The largest State controlled organisations, ever! Current US capitalism currently seems to be heading them to "also ran".
It is in societies interests that people do not go homeless and starve. Apart from the moral obligation.
Which is why we need welfare.
Business, of course, we all know is a gamble.
Business failures are an essential ingredient of Capitalism.
Risks go with the big bucks.
However trades and the like are not really a business in most cases. You just work for a greater number of bosses!
Perception and reality…we know ' some business is too big to..fail…it would result in 'systemic risk'!…i.e the few would get ..a haircut!
I wonder how Scandinavian countries fund their MASSIVE welfare systems? Well, they have lower corporate tax rates than the States. Like China, they can do what they do because Capitalism supports them.
But… Muslim immigration and this eco problem may be beyond Capitalism's power to fix things.
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2019/12/6/the-dark-side-of-the-nordic-model
They can have low corporate tax rates. Because so much of their services, and productive economy, is directly employed by the State.
Or, are you one of those people who think a Teacher or road builder that is not employed by the private sector, doesn't contribute to the economy.
Their 'massive" welfare systems work because their populations efforts contribute to them.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/05/so-long-swedish-welfare-state/
Unfortunately for Sweden. They are not immune from the Neo-liberal fuckwittery bug, that has done so much damage to New Zealand and other countries.
If only the rest of the economy was as organised and had a union as strong as the farmers…. it makes the trade unions of 70's look like a pack of pussies.
Doubt your local drainlayer had to put his business and life on hold so others in society could enjoy good health and a buoyant economy. And having been around the civil trade a fair bit there's more to that story than the weather.
Support for tourism has been pretty modest apart from wage subsidies and resurgence that went to other sectors that qualified as well. A lot of it (strategic asset programme) was to protect operations from predatory offshore investment in the early days of the pandemic. This was successful, highly targeted and undersubscribed. The biggest 'support' for tourism has been the MIQ programme, that's keeping the hotel chains afloat, just. But most of the rooms here are mothballed and the operation is scaled back as far as possible.
There's also a small programme administered by the Chamber of Commerce providing support for tourism business transition. We've drawn on it to get a very modest amount of legal advice for our exit. Talking to the administrator the focus is having a resource there to prevent landlords, banks and creditors being arseholes. It's expected to be undersubscribed too.
There was also the arbitration programme to resolve rental disputes from the first lockdown, again undersubscribed, this time grossly, because disputes sort of evaporated with the prospect of compulsory arbitration.
' to prevent landlords, banks and creditors being arseholes.'
Good luck with that!They are the backbone of the…economy!
I know what it is like to have your business losing money over a long period through something you have no control over. Also similarly losing a waged job through something I had no control over.
I wouldn't wish either on anybody.
There should be more help for people in both situations.
The effects are probably worse for most people losing a waged job. They normally have much less to fall back on, especially if it was a low wage job, than someone who owned a business.
I do have an issue with those who complain about not enough help if their business goes down, while they oppose a reasonable level of welfare for other unemployed.
However not sure what a Government is supposed to do, when businesses do not have a viable future. Propping them up, like Tiwai point, is an expensive and usually futile, exercise. Imagine the kickback if Government took them over.
At a business owner level the tourism unwind won't be too bad if the owner has good equity, like well north of 50%. They'll be able to start again without having to downtrade. Ex Queenstown or Wanaka not too much issue with a downtrade, but ex Westland another story.
The carnage here is going to be amongst the landlord set. The way commercial leases work encourages high debt levels, and when things go south the mess splatters far and wide.
After the '87 crash most of the carnage in Queenstown was in commercial property when a couple of large developer landlords went spectacularly tits up. It spread to take most of the construction businesses in town. Absolute mess.
There's super prime retail units in CBD that have been vacant for 18 months, and anything that becomes vacant doesn't relet. There will inevitably be rent reductions to get new tenants and cashflow, the resulting reduction in property value will put people underwater. The alternative is properties being kept vacant to hold values and equity up, but cashflow being cut right back, impacting the local economy in other ways. Both messy.
At the risk of seeming non-empathic, capitalism is famous for operating on a boom/bust cycle, so I don't get why any business operator would not operate in accord with that traditional philosophy.
So not doing prudent risk management is unwise. That said, I acknowledge that business folk are as inclined to fall into the rut of the legendary kiwi complacency stance as the rest of us.
Not pointing at you Graeme – just a general observation. So I thought it good practical socialism for the govt to subsidise all them businesses back in 2020. I'm unaware of them continuing that the past year. Perhaps, being neoliberals, they have reverted to doctrine and are letting market forces do a bit of culling.
Doctrinaire rogernomes have been thin on the ground lately. Even Prebs, mouthing off yet again the other day, doesn't seem to be pushing the party line by scolding the govt for doing the rescue thing. Perhaps pragmatism has infected him. Would be refreshing to hear him recycle James Shaw telling everyone when he became Greens leader "we have a hybrid economy now". Not just China doing both capitalism & socialism simultaneously! But that would be progress – too hard for those trying to revert to the old normal…
Our risk management profile pre covid was well in excess of most and that approach served us very well, we'd be in a very bad way if we hadn't taken that approach. We got there by pretty standard risk analysis approach to our business.
But we didn't talk about it around town much, we would have been seen as the nutcase fringe. Most businesses didn't see the possibility of a sudden and enduring stop to cashflow.
I too have to wonder why.
"There should be more help for people in both situations."
Only short term…..is 2 plus years short term?
Propping up unviable businesses is pouring good money after bad and ultimately dosnt help anyone (except perhaps those holding the debt)….the resources (mainly labour) are better used elsewhere, perhaps in the conversion to an energy efficient economy.
Propping up unviable businesses is pouring good money after bad and ultimately dosnt help anyone
I could be really provocative and ask why the same logic does not apply to people?
People are an essential.
And. The society/economy exists for the people in it. A business exists primarily to make money for the owner.
Please be provacative….and the same logic does apply to people (in economic terms)…after all ultimately all 'business' is people
I think you can see that just throwing money at businesses doesn't work – it's much harder than this to help them. Hell you don't even know if you can help them.
Much the same with people, helping them as individuals is hard, although for different reasons. The left would be smart to be more honest about this.
Yes it is hard…and not everyone will be able to transfer, but id suggest if you have a choice between no job and a job youve never considered, most will take the later option…especially those with a significant working life ahead of them…..the govs role is to enable that transfer.
Ultimately those non viable jobs will dissapear anyway.
Yes I agree with this. The best help we can offer people is to reduce or eliminate the stupid problems they face. It's rarely just one thing that takes someone out, it's usually a cascade of irksome idiot things that go wrong one after another – until the bottom drops out and they cannot cope with the complexity anymore.
And none of this needs to be overcomplex. If we simply went and talked to say a 1000 kiwis living on the bottom of the ladder, and listened to their life stories – I bet you could come up with a list of 10 common obstacles they kept on tripping over, and 3 of them would account for 80% of them.
Thinking more of reasonable welfare rates or even a decent UBI.
Don't see the need for a time limit.
Only a small fraction of people are on welfare for more than two years.
Most of them for good reasons, such as children, health or capability.
If we need to prop up a business. Which we, in reality, do to a great many of them, it is likely they are a net cost, not benefit, to our society.
What is our greatest current limitation?…..labour.
Why would we support people in non viable industries (hoping against hopethey will become viable) when we need, desperately skills in other areas?,,,,the alternative is to import (either directly or indirectly) the wherewithal.
Agree.
Better to spend on helping necessary changes.
Yep…no problem with short term support, but sooner or later (and the sooner the better) we have to accept that a lot of these businesses are going to fold.
Thinking more of reasonable welfare rates or even a decent UBI.
Which is why I've advocated for a UBI since forever. The universal feature is the psychologically most important aspect.
The difference is that any targeted benefit or intervention is always received at the wrong end of an inequality gradient. It's always conditional, always subject to rules and always precarious. It undermines human agency.
By contrast a UBI is just there – as of right. It's entirely over to you to make what you will of it. It respects and develops personal agency, that will to find a way out of the difficulties and problems that have kept you at the bottom of the ladder.
On this. I entirely agree.
The difficulty in a quick exit is the lease situation. Most commercial leases have 3 – 7 year terms and personal guarantees. That makes exit rather tricky and any government exit programme ripe for abuse. Once the government starts wading into commercial contracts all hell will break loose and unaffected businesses will climb aboard looking for a slice of the action.
I think the way it's being handled is probably the best option going for the stuffed businesses and owners, the landlords, and banks. It's giving businesses a chance of rebuilding, and things a chance to come right.
Now that it's apparent that inbound tourism won't be happening in the next few years, or maybe longer due to ongoing covid, changes in airline thinking and uncertainty around travel insurance, 'coming right' isn't going to save New Zealand tourism from it's complete loss of social license in country. Unfortunately a lot of the industry leaders aren't ready to accept this and are still demanding immediate opening of our borders.
Who's going to come here if we do is moot, Australia's opening blew up in their face with Australia currently on most countries' high risk list, making travel uninsurable and mandating a spell in MIQ on return.
That commercial lease problem may be a bit overstated however…especially considering we are 2 years into an emegency situation,and the fact many of those leases will have considerably less time to run.The impact on commercial real estate values may be problematic, but then investment carries risk and the returns generally compensate…..and as with the labour it will occur anyway even if a bit delayed.
Graeme, beautifully articulated and a brutal story.
Needs to be turned into a post. Would you mind?
a lot of what you say was coming already(commercial buildings untenanted,etc), with things like art galleries(i have had two ),antique shops etc, going the internet way, and not bothering with an overpriced shop, with all its extra costs. covid has just condensed a few years of what was inevitable into 18 months . got nothing to do with politics even though far too many think it is.
Tourist / travel retail is a lot more tactile and interactive than more known things like antiques. We've had a lot of success online with some lines, and a complete failure with others.
We have one line that has some New Zealanders disclaim "Oh, it's just a fucking tourist shop", and storm out, if they happen to glance a piece hidden in the corner, but going gangbusters online to New Zealanders. Having trouble figuring that one out.
Natural resistance and reinfection for C19….
Not sure whether Global Research is an acceptable source around here,but quite interesting all the same.
How Likely Is Reinfection Following COVID Recovery? The Role of Natural and Innate Immunity – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization
The best authors.
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A top Trump appointee repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to internal emails obtained by a House watchdog and shared with POLITICO.
“There is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the non-high risk groups expose themselves to the virus. PERIOD," then-science adviser Paul Alexander wrote on July 4 to his boss, Health and Human Services assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo, and six other senior officials.
"Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc. have zero to little risk….so we use them to develop herd…we want them infected…" Alexander added.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/trump-appointee-demanded-herd-immunity-strategy-446408
Well the latest infection rates in the states, might be leading towards herd immunity
Yesterday 572,000
Day before 476,000
Assuming Omicron confers immunity (which is by no means established).
Along with the virus we also seem to get this novel idea that humans, at least from a public health perspective, have no immune system. Quite the breakthrough!
Along with all of that it would do again good to remind ourselfs that the lockdown and all the other jazz was not implemented to prevent death per se but to prevent our healthcare system from collapsing. What did we call it when it all started? Flattening the curve of infections.
In the meantime in OZ the healthcare system is starting to 'fray' at the edges as it is elsewhere with to many patients coming in, staff getting sick in huge numbers etc etc etc.
A mild sickness can be causing the same damage albeit slowly then a hard sickness causes fast.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jan/01/nsw-hospitals-resort-to-flying-nurses-in-from-overseas-as-staff-are-begged-to-take-extra-shifts-amid-covid-crisis
Hildebrand again nails it.
Think I would always listen to health experts rather than the reckons of a right wing libertarian journalist working for a Murdoch newspaper. Hildebrand's article in news.com.au is all over the place. He comes to the conclusion that a high vaccination has kept Delta at bay quite successfully and should keep infected people out of hospital in the Omicron surge, but fails to state what exactly would have kept the virus from overwhelming hospitals before vaccination. He was criticized for labelling Qld and WA as "extremist states" for keeping borders controlled in September this year, but failed to mention (like Scomo) that Coalition controlled states like Tassie and SA did exactly the same.
Does anyone else here remember the public health message from those first months back in 2020? Does 'flatten the curve' sound at all familiar?
That was so long ago RL, can people still remember how we went from flattening the curve, to elimination, to oops this was bound to happen? lol
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/11/flattening-curve-coronavirus/
Oh dear…don't tell me your NY resolution was to acquire a SOH…fraulein!
Well she's off to a good start …
i have no idea what you are typing about, herrlein.
Every person who has ever died of an infectious disease…had an immune system. All the people who died of the black plague? They had an immune system.
But yes, the development and behaviour of the current virus involves a complicated relationship with our individual and collective immune systems.
So on this logic are you're telling us that the immune system plays no role in public health because?
Our immune system here is so weakened that we had a major RSV outbreak just a few month ago that also caused some death, and that was simply just a bog standard illness that comes around every year. And that outbreak damn near got our underfunded, understaffed, and under resources health care system to almost breaking point.
Just as a reminder, our hospital system is still underfunded, understaffed and under resourced. Nothing has changed on that since the arrival of Covid.
Yes – that's an important point. Our public health system is sub-optimal on so many fronts.
I admire and respect the sincere, intelligent, hard-working individuals in the system, but they're as much captives of it as the rest of us are.
Public health works on a population basis.
The immune systems of healthy people are not routinely firing on all cylinders.
I've always thought that the way public health dealt with immune systems was to look at it the other way by counting disease or 'unhealth'. So in a pandemic we look at co-morbitities that impinge on a healthy immune system so:
Once these parts of the population are looked at then perhaps what is left are those who have more or less functioning immune systems. In the normal run these people could be expected to get a disease and if it did not kill them would leave them with antibodies to combat the next round.
Early on in the Covid journey it was found that the antibodies left in those initial infections were neither strong nor long lasting so any faint idea about herd immunity being possible or the ability to stand up to variants had to be put aside. Covid was such serious illness for many people that it was not ethical really to be happy for the disease to run through our populations and possibly give them immunity which would be weak and shortlived.
Early on in the Covid journey it was found that the antibodies left in those initial infections were neither strong nor long lasting
Found out by who? Reported by who? Any reliable source for the contention that naturally acquired immunity is weak?
In your comment you already covered off the vulnerable, but then go on to say
Covid was such serious illness for many people that…
No it wasn't. Somewhere in the region of 80 or 90% of deaths from Covid were in the oldest of age groups, with the rest falling mostly on those with serious co-morbities.
Older people and people with health vulnerabilities still add up to a lot of people. It's not just those that died, it's those that got long covid, and it's those that would have died and got long covid if we'd allowed covid to run free.
Also, it's a fucking shitty way to die. Public health specialises in reducing such things as much as possible.
Yet again (ie, not for the first time in response to one of my comments) you're implying I suggest (or have suggested) letting covid "run free"
I've never suggested such a thing, so please just stop insinuating I have.
Shanreagh was suggesting Covid was a serious illness for those with no identifiable vulnerabilities. It isn't and wasn't.
We could have and should have treated covid with the leaky vaccines in the same way we would have treated any other viral outbreak if all we had was leaky vaccines – ie, targeted use.
By not doing that, and by also insisting on universal booster shots, we've been playing Russian Roulette with the possibility of creating a truly killer virus. That we've got Omicron and not some scythe variant is down to dumber than dumb luck (at least for now) given the way we have deliberately messed with the viruses environment.
Herd has worked out ok for Sweden thus far.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1469693880606023688
Yup, worked out real well if the object was to kill two to three times more people /capita than your neighbours.
Then again the actual situation may have been more complex that a crude comparison would suggest.
And that's dated very early on, I've seen it claimed that during those first two waves almost 50% of the deaths were from this tiny group consisting of less than 1% of the whole population. That's potentially an enormous confounding factor.
Also it's worth noting the Finnish public health system has long been way ahead of the rest of the world on VitD supplementation And the Norwegians eat substantially more oily fish in their diet than their Nordic neigbours and especially the unfortunate Somali population in Sweden who retained their traditional diets.
This is just a small sample of the often obscure confounding factors that arise when making comparisons between countries.
not sure what your point is there. That confounding factors somehow makes the number of deaths less relevant?
It's only relevant to the comparison that joe90 was making between to 'Sweden's neighbouring countries' – presumably Norway and Finland. The assumption made in that claim that "the object was to kill two to three times more people /capita than your neighbours." is that the only difference between Sweden and it's neighbours was it's no-lockdowns policy.
But that isn't the case, there a number of other ways that these countries differ that may offer a stronger causal explanation. This is true of pretty much all comparisons between countries and populations everywhere, which is why we constantly get caught up in these heated threads that go nowhere useful.
what are the confounding factors in Sweden's neighbours?
I outlined several probable ones above.
Prof. (of Public Health) Shahar points out that Sweden's mortality in the 2020/21 flu year matches their 2017/18 flu year. A better comparison, using the same country, people, etc rather than across different countries. https://shahar-26393.medium.com/not-a-shred-of-doubt-sweden-was-right-32e6dab1f47a
Also, I would point out Sweden's mortality figures are going to be inflated as more of the virus is spread through the populace, so more chance of it being picked up by tests, and associated loosely with deaths.
Then there's the impact on mortality of turning society upside down for a single disease, which we seem to be refusing to look at too.
And folk who lost their lives during mortality surges in March – May 2020 and January this year were going to die, anyhow?
If you carefully read the reference maui gave, the answer to your question is pretty much yes.
I’m not trying to be dogmatic about this – quite the contrary – what I am saying is how easy it is to reach wrong conclusions from data. And it’s not just ordinary people like us who struggle with this.
No, that's not what Sweden has been doing for some time. They ditched the 'herd immunity let it rip' approach after logarithmic covid infection rates early last year. Their government restrictions and recommended controls have been similar but tougher in some aspects than NZ's for most of 2021, and some rules regarding large gatherings remain stricter than here.
https://sweden.se/life/society/sweden-and-corona-in-brief
Quote from your link:
You will also note that the most recent round of restrictions dates from just a week ago in response to the very rapid rate of increase in Omicron infections.
Overall quite different to NZ and many other nations. Still essentially based on trusting their people to mostly do what is personally sensible for them.
In 2020, Sweden's state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell initially criticised mandatory measures like mask wearing in shops and occupancy limits in public indoor spaces favouring promotion of voluntary social distancing, mask wearing and other infection prevention controls.
This statement is true only in so far as additional restrictions have been imposed in Sweden a week ago
By December 2020,
As of 28 December 2021, there had been 1,303,663 confirmed cases and 15,297 deaths from Covid19 in Sweden
In January 2021,
In April 2021: Sweden's Prime Minister Stefan Lofven told a news conference.
These ongoing restrictions which continued throughout 2021 included: mandatory closure of restaurants at 8.30 pm, shops and malls only allowed limited numbers of customers. Nursing homes, secondary schools, sport venues and public pools remained closed to visitors.
Still your implication above that Sweden's lockdowns were similar or tougher than NZ's doesn't stack up.
From your quotes above, it looks like they acted to protect the elderly in nursing homes, and put in place some restrictions that would limit super-spreader events in indoor settings. All pretty obvious stuff I think most people could live with. And while they have seen some anti-restriction protests, they were small beer compared to what we've seen even in Australia.
My comment was to debunk this statement in 8.1.3
I never stated that Sweden had lockdowns.
I stated that Sweden had controls and recommendations in place throughout 2021, (some of these were similar to, and some were tougher than NZ controls), and that these controls are not consistent with the 'herd immunity' approach
Not seeing it sorry. If they didn't have multi-month lockdowns then they got nowhere near NZ's control measures.
Everything they have done is consistent with gradually developing herd immunity over time and ensuring they kept the curve sufficiently flattened to prevent health system overload. There was never a goal of 'elimination'.
When Sweden first went down this path the pushback was immense, the media and blogs were full of it, how it was going to lead to catastrophe and 100,000's of deaths. And when this never happened and their current trajectory shows the strategy worked, the narrative gets switched to claiming they did the same as everyone else after all.
You think we can't spot what you are doing here?
WHAT! Spell this out please.
All I am saying is that Sweden did not get to where it is following a herd immunity strategy. This initial approach had to be modified.
If there is anything that is "unsaid" in what I've written, it is that NZ's and Sweden's Covid19 strategies have got closer. And that is not a controversial statement – as Sweden clearly introduced controls, and in NZ we have clearly moved away from 'lockdowns' as a first response
If you think I'm saying anything else, spell this out
I’m not going to war with you RL, and I don’t know why you’ve made this personal
If your interpretation of 'herd immunity strategy' is 'do nothing and let it rip' – at no point did Sweden commit to anything like that. They always said they were going to calibrate their response to the circumstances – and to use the least force necessary to keep the curve flattened.
But they never committed to 'elimination' and never to mass lockdowns. Like NZ did.
Well I could have cut to the chase quicker if I'd spotted this data point sooner:
The upshot is that the calculated numbers are:
NZ's lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's.
RL (@11:21 pm), you linked to the COVID-19 Stringency Index (in this thread @9:58 pm), and presented the 14th Dec. 2021 (for NZ) and the 4th Dec. 2021 (for Sweden) data point to compare the stringency of NZ's and Sweden's responses to COVID-19.
NZ's lockdowns were not around 3 times more stringent than Sweden's, and that's all I have to say about that. "You think we can't spot what you are doing here?"
Take it up with the source of the data, I'm sure they'll appreciate your input.
It’s a great site for data. Click on the NZ map to display the timeline (chart) of NZ’s COVID-19 stringency response, and then add (overlay) Sweden's COVID-19 stringency response chart – too simple?
If you prefer to believe “NZ’s lockdowns were around 3 times more stringent than Sweden’s“, then go right ahead – just don’t understand why you would continue to cling to that particular fiction.
Well they are at the moment – nice for them no? And the chart clearly shows NZ went through some periods of extreme controls that Sweden never did and it's not at all likely any NZ govt could reimpose them if it wanted to.
Yes the two countries have taken different paths through this pandemic, as pretty much all nations have. But patently Sweden never went down the extreme path of 'elimination'.
And, as those overlaid charts show (thanks for the link), from 8 June – 11 Aug 2020, and again for most of the period from 24 Nov 2020 to 1 June 2021 (about eight months all up), Sweden's COVID-19 Stringency Index was ~3 times that of NZ's. Whereas NZ's Stringency Index has been 3 – 4 times Sweden's for maybe the last three months.
And yet an unquestioning reader might actually believe this
What these charts suggest (to me) is that our govt’s strategy to limit the freedom of COVID-19 to spread, injure, and kill (0.001%) has been more dynamic than Sweden's (0.15%). Well done Team – there’s really no place I’d rather be.
You can quibble all you like – the reality is that Sweden never went to the extreme 96% levels of control that NZ did for many months.
And is still maintaining at very high levels. And that is the sole point of the thread that you seem to be determined to derail for reasons that seem more petty than pertinent.
Well done Team – there’s really no place I’d rather be.
Have you any idea what a smug prick that makes you sound? In the meantime my 96 yr old father has gone through his second Christmas isolated and alone in his rest home. As have many thousands of others.
Absolutely agree, but that's not what we're quibbling about, is it?
According to the data you linked to, this comment is inaccurate:
I wouldn't harp on about it so were it not for the fact that we're in the middle of a pandemic, and I hope we can both agree that dissemination of misinformation should be discouraged.
Perhaps we could agree on a less inaccurate statement.
Of course that doesn’t have quite the impact of the original, but it is more accurate, imho.
Thanks; that helps me to understand where you're coming from. I'll read your future opinions relating to the pandemic with that in mind. We've all had to make sacrifices during this pandemic, some more than others. Dad gets out of MIQ on Tuesday evening, pending a fourth negative test result.
Two more points – it's a stringency 'index', not a percentage, i.e. an index value of 100 does not equate to 100% control (whatever that might entail.) The highest Strigency Index value for China is 82, and ~70 for Sweden. Plus NZ has not spent "many months" at "extreme 96% [sic] levels of control" – it was 55 days, tops.
Btw, no-one's paying me for this fact checking
Comparing NZ's and Sweden's Covid-19 Stringency Index since NZ adopted a strict (and imho prudent) suite of precautions (to curb Covid-19's freedom) in late March 2020, NZ has 'enjoyed' two extended periods (14 May – 11 Aug 2020, and 31 Aug 2020 – 15 Aug 2021) during which NZ's stringency index has been less than Sweden's.
That's more than 14 out of 21 months, during which time (according to Swedish health authorities) ~0.15% of their population tragically died from COVID-19 infections (cf. 0.001% in NZ).
Not that it's a competition, of course, but there are those who will attempt to spin these comparisons to belittle the efforts and evident achievements of team Kiwi – to what end I could only guess.
but there are those who will attempt to spin these comparisons to belittle the efforts and evident achievements of team Kiwi – to what end I could only guess.
Pay attention to the thread. It arose in the context of locus claiming that Sweden's COVID response had been equal to or even more severe than NZ's. There was never any attempt to belittle anything NZ has achieved.
during which time (according to Swedish health authorities) ~0.15% of their population has tragically died from COVID-19 infections (cf. 0.001% in NZ).
Again you may want to pay attention to the thread. maui above gave this reference that looks at this number from a more nuanced perspective.
I know that Mark Richardson is very much persona non grata around here, but as a cricket commentator, he really is class, and a genuinely funny chap. Happy New Year, everybody.
NZ 94/1……..
For the Phish fans.
(started 2.30pm NZ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Dljqi91-M
Compared to the fake versions spread across social media (yeah… Hipkins has given the word spread a whole new meaning 😮 ) here is a relatively impeccable Covid prediction from the real scientists and experts – not the fake versions:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-omicron-outbreak-why-2022-and-omicron-variant-will-mark-the-end-of-the-covid-19-pandemic/JZXFOI5E22XSUTMF6PAOBTYV6U/
Lets hope they are correct!
I'm quite surprised to read such a level headed and sensible piece in a legacy publication.
On the social front – Vaccination of 5 yo and up put on hold? Passports gone by the coming winter at the very latest? Mandating workplaces in an Omicron environment impermissible?
The only way I can imagine things going awry is if the already observed and studied possible phenomenon of administering a leaky vaccine on a universal basis kicks in.