Open Mike 01/07/2018

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  1. Sanctuary 1

    White Rabbits!

    • OnceWasTim 1.1

      Ribbit ribbit. My……. you’re up early big boy.

    • OnceWasTim 1.2

      Btw, are you FCV-free? (khaleesi/Calici)
      Apologies @ Sanc. It’s just that I’ve had to witness (over the past 12 hours) the ‘yoof of today’ indulging in virtual foreplay via a couple of cell phones – culminating in what was apparently a transactional ‘bootie call’.

      So um, can we? CAN WE!!!!?

  2. OnceWasTim 2

    Geez, that Jemaine Clement’s looking a bit grey these days eh?
    That Wellington Supernatural better be worth it eh?
    RNZ’s taking a real gamble I rekon shuvving him up on their interweb site.
    Never mind. Someone from The Spinoff will be along very soon to legitimise it all.

  3. Sanctuary 3

    Hmmm, sounds like the Queenstown Property Speculators are getting a free half hour show courtesy of some moron reporter on RNZ just now.

    #switchedoff

    • Grey Area 3.1

      Unfortunately I listened in as well but my primary task was getting breakfast so the time wasn’t totally wasted.

      Didn’t you just love the preconceived prompt to several interviewees like: “so you’re saying the foreign buyers legislation will have the opposite effect on providing affordable housing than is intended”.

      Please, please say yes or my whole “story” will collapse. The term “chilling effect” was used several times.

      I was struck by one guy (American I think) who sounded so concerned that the Bill was sending signals being picked up offshore that NZ didn’t want foreign investment and this was a BAD thing. Good I thought. Too damned right many of us don’t.

      His horror was what decades of neoliberalism and centuries of capitalist pillaging and theft does to you I guess.

      • OnceWasTim 3.1.1

        Agreed @ Grey Area.
        Mee toooo, except I wasn’t so concerned with getting on with breakfast, I was more concerned with the apparent fob off from Sanctuary in my quest for a hookup, I went back to sleep.
        And now, I’m listening to the sage Corin Dann on PLUS 1 and wondering whether it’d not be better to take another hour out of life in the name of sleep.
        Decisons decisons!. Such a hard life!

        OH CHRIST!!!! Now Wayne Mapp has just popped up as the gin-soaked sage.

        Easy.
        Snore!!!!!!!!!!!

        • cleangreen 3.1.1.1

          Agreed OnceWasTim,

          I was horrified with Q+A today and exited that show for’ Discovery channel’ as I needed sanctuary for my mind to stay sane.

          We need a new ‘Channel seven’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TVNZ_7 now more than ever with real depth in investigative journalism not a horror show of empty ‘talking heads.’

      • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2

        I was struck by one guy (American I think) who sounded so concerned that the Bill was sending signals being picked up offshore that NZ didn’t want foreign investment and this was a BAD thing. Good I thought. Too damned right many of us don’t.

        I’m pretty sure that the majority of us don’t want it and the only reason why we have it is because governments over the last decades have forced it upon us against our will.

        Which means that we live in a dictatorship and not a democracy.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10678798
        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11986751
        https://www.nbr.co.nz/article/poll-voters-love-labours-foreign-buyer-ban-ck-176137

        • solkta 3.1.2.1

          Yes that’s right, its not like we have elections every three years and a range of parties to vote for.

          • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2.1.1

            We do that – yes.

            And then those parties go round doing things that we don’t want them to do. The whole neo-liberal implementation was against what the people wanted but no matter who we voted for we got the same shit. National did the TPPA which the majority didn’t want. Labour promised to change it or even to get rid of it if it didn’t meet their bottom lines. It didn’t meet those bottom lines and then they went and signed it anyway.

            At what point were our wishes actually listened to?

            • solkta 3.1.2.1.1.1

              The whole neo-liberal implementation was against what the people wanted but no matter who we voted for we got the same shit.

              and then some of us campaigned and succeeded in changing the voting system but many people still continue to vote Labour regardless of the continual betrayals. We get the government that we collectively deserve.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Well, there’s that too.

                But even that just means that we need a better democratic system. One that doesn’t leave policy decisions solely to the MPs.

              • Hongi Ika

                NZF is the only logical alternative ?

                • solkta

                  Yeh, right, because Winston has never gone back on a bottom line.

                  He’s so honest that he took his website down after the election.

          • cleangreen 3.1.2.1.2

            solka;

            ‘we have elections every three years and a range of parties to vote for.’

            Yes we do but we are constabtly brainwashed by the heavy use of right wing compliant broadcasting controlled by the right wing spin doctors and corportate involvement,.

            So we are effectively controlled by the bussiness commutity and their interests and not ours.

            This is not democracy – but is corpocracy, which is a recent term used to refer to an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests.

            We have been indocrinated by this corpocracy medium in all our media here in NZ today.

            • Draco T Bastard 3.1.2.1.2.1

              <blockquote…but is corpocracy, which is a recent term used to refer to an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests.
              If you’re going to quote Wikipedia then it would be good form to link to the article.

              …is a recent term used to refer to an economic and political system controlled by corporations or corporate interests.

    • millsy 3.2

      Queenstown should just scede from NZ and apply to become a SAR of China. I can just imagine them all waving little Chinese flags as the PLA marches up the main drag.

    • cleangreen 3.3

      Yep, Sanctuary

      RNZ has gone deep into the south island I have noted, – and RNZ dont carry any ‘free half hour shows’ for our most isolated noth Island regions such as northland and Gisborne/HB east coast as they do in the south.

      Perhaps that is because the HQ for RNZ has been centered in Dunedin for years.

  4. patricia bremner 4

    Let us hope IRD and the PSA and WINZ get the increases correct this set of changes.
    Hopefully a small glimmer of hope for many.

  5. Sanctuary 5

    Tim Brown is the RNZ regional reporter for Otago/Southland/Lakes.

    I looked at his content, and it is the stereotypical regional reporter mix of human interest stories, crime, weather and good news propaganda for the local chamber of commerce/Federated Farmers. The guy is on a good wicket, he can file happy happy joy joy stories based on his chummy relationships with local business people and the rest of his content is derived from ringing up his mate at the cop shop, chatting to the mayor at events, and the weather. An easy life, with the advantage you get lots of nice invites and freebies.

    This morning ridiculous piece highlights the danger of using a regional reporter to create an in depth critical investigation feature.

    In this case, the local beat reporter is clearly the wrong person to do such a story, because he has clearly become far too chummy with the movers and shakers in town, which helps him get news and he (understandably) doesn’t want to shit in own nest.

    The simple reality is if he had run a piece critical of of the despoiling of Queenstown by rampant speculation and unregulated development and supportive of the government position a whole lot of doors would slam shut on him. Why rock the boat?

    As such, we should consider this mornings insight on RNZ mainly as an extended job application by Tim Brown for a role as PR flack for Queenstown Lake’s property developers association…

    • Grey Area 5.1

      Good analysis. My half an ear told me he was out of his depth and/or doing a PR piece for foreign ownership and overseas financing of the “development” of Queenstown.

      It saddens me that NZers are so venal and/or stupid that we allow a jewel like Queenstown to be so over-developed that we spoil the very character that drew people to it in the first place.

      I last visited Queenstown six years ago and enjoyed a couple of days there but from what I’ve heard recently it’s over-full of tourists and traffic congestion. We’ll be visiting the South Island later this year but will be avoiding Queenstown.

      • JanM 5.1.1

        It was one of the places we used to go to when I was a child (50s and 60s) but I haven’t been near it for a very long time – I think I would just burst into tears. My compensation for the ruination of Queenstown is that while the ghastlies who wrought all this damage are all corralled in Queenstown they aren’t wrecking the rest of NZ. Does Queenstown just need to take one for the team?

      • Robert Guyton 5.1.2

        Queenstown is…over-ripe.

        • Graeme 5.1.2.1

          Your analogy is pretty much spot on Robert.

          We are probably well into the autumn of this development cycle most of the fruit on the tree is getting pretty squishy, the rest that hasn’t ripened by now is unlikely to before winter sets in. And it’s looking like a very hard winter is going to sweep through our local economy, it’ll be tough for those that can’t afford to keep warm.

          But hard winters kill off the bugs and weeds to allow the spring growth opportunities to flourish.

          Interesting to look at the photo accompanying the RNZ piece of Shotover Country. Each of those houses would be a tradie with a million dollar mortgage, unfortunately they are unlikely to winter well.

    • millsy 5.2

      The Queenstown council are bascially traitors who would gladly run a Vicy-style puppet regime for a foreign power. They need to be packed and more patriotic people put in their place.

    • Venezia 5.3

      Sanctuary….Exactly my thoughts when listening to that Tim Brown piece this morning.

    • Graeme 5.4

      I listened to the Insight report, and as a Queenstown resident for 35 years I thought it was quite balanced for an outside cub reporter. Tim Brown gave away his lack of local knowledge and experience in the fist few minutes when he described Queenstown as a winter, and now summer resort. Sorry Tim, our peak time is summer, and has always been, going back to 1860’s. The winter product is quite new, developed initally in the 50’s and greatly expanded in 80’s through to now.

      The treatment of our housing problems, which are nothing new, it’s been a problem from the very start of European settlement in the early 1860’s and a constant issue for as long as I have been here was accurate.

      The section on the American owners Glenorchy Camping Ground and Gibbston Valley Wines I found enlightening regarding their attitude to New Zealand residency. That both parties could easily gain residency, but choose not to, made me wonder about their commitment to New Zealand.

      Our housing trust is doing some very good work in providing accomodation for workers, using a variety of models which are evolving with time. The proposed legislation is being tweaked to accomodate situations like the housing trust, hopefully it can be made to work well at this end.

      The choice, if you can call it that, between high end homes ($5 Million +) for the 1% and suburban sprawl for “kiwi workers” comes down to sustainability. The high end is a lot easier on the landscape and environment and provides ongoing, sustainable employment. Building houses to house people to build more houses to house more people to do I don’t know what isn’t going to make Queenstown a better place. The reality is that enjoyment of our environment is the only productive economic activity the place has been able to sustain. The challenge is to do this in a form that the environment, both physical and social, can sustain.

      It’s my view that the high end has a lot to offer in this regard, and suburbia spreading across the landscape may not be the way to go.

      • Bearded Git 5.4.1

        I live in the queenstown lakes district and have to disagree. The high end $10-20 million houses tend to be located intrusively in the landscape where everyone is forced to look at them and their negative effects on landscape values. In this way one rich prick adversely affects many people visiting the District.These houses also negatively impact the local economy which relies on these landscapes.

        • Greame 5.4.1.1

          Any house, of any value designed or sited inappropriately is a tragedy for the landscape. In my experience here, the “rich pricks” don’t have a monopoly on this behaviour.

          There’s plenty of quite modest homes and subdivisions slapped in middle of bare paddocks around the district, and a lot of very well designed and sympathetically sited mansions around the place too. The “rich pricks” generally have the resources, and inclination to do something about mitigating the landscape effects of their presence, which is more than can be said for the mass of roofs that’s Shotover Country.

  6. Gabby 6

    If the wunnerful foreign investors had been flat tack erecting cheap houses for workers they might have a bit of a point.

  7. Anne 7

    How the darkened side of America thinks. Although to be fair one of them sounds like he’s on the brink of crossing over to the enlightened side:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-44649459/trump-supporters-on-family-separations-and-border-security

    I will say no more…

    • ianmac 7.1

      When people wonder if Trump can be re-elected look no further than than those folk. We are all a bit “loyal” to our chosen heroes but…

  8. Incognito 8

    To stay with the theme of the power of music and performing together: https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/opinion/105118732/music-has-the-ability-to-reach-into-my-soul

  9. marty mars 9

    It would be great if e-tangata could be supported. Kia ora.

    https://e-tangata.co.nz/media/we-need-your-help/

  10. Chris T 10

    I see Winston is getting Nigel Farage’s endorsement because he is so much like Trump.

    Kind of humorous

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2018/06/winston-peters-nz-s-own-version-of-trump-nigel-farage.html

  11. phantom snowflake 11

    In response to the Capital Gazette shooting; here’s a great piece by Laurie Penny on Misogyny and Massacres.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/29/mass-shootings-white-male-fragility-capital-gazette-maryland-misogyny

  12. marty mars 12

    Truth is stranger than fiction – accelerating away – think about it…

    https://www.universetoday.com/139545/oumuamua-accelerated-out-of-the-solar-system-like-a-comet/

    • Draco T Bastard 12.1

      “We tested many possible alternatives and the most plausible one is that ’Oumuamua must be a comet, and that gasses emanating from its surface were causing the tiny variations in its trajectory.”

      The other being that it’s actually a spaceship and it’s altering its trajectory for it’s next port of call.

  13. R.P Mcmurphy 13

    anybody here know who G Hamilton of 41 Pipitea St. Wgton is?
    he is running scabby anti government threads on Facebook which are just out and out lies.

  14. David Mac 14

    Have you seen the new Jonathan Pie clip?

    He gets fair up the soap-boxers. I think his message is ‘Don’t waste time with shit that doesn’t matter.’

    *Fruity language

  15. eco maori 15

    The Am Show Good morning your in Queens Town that place won’t be so popular when man made Global warming melts the snow its a beautiful little Town .
    Yes Duncan I found that out about the day light hours in Southland you won’t get light till about 9 am its Day light in the beautiful Rotorua at 730 am.
    I think a $10 tax charge per bed in Queens town is a need to keep this Aotearoa Iconic little town functioning efficiently and in a environmentally friendly way.
    Our waste recycling well we will have to charge the company’s who produce this waste and pass the money on to make recycling profitable make the policy so that manufactures will save money by using less packing they could even reuse some of this packing thats they way money people react to being hit in the hip pocket .
    I say that money payed for plastic bags should passed on to the recycling industry so they can afford to by the plants to recycle this waste in Rotorua we have just got recycling bins for every house which is a good thing but its a shame if the recycling just ends up in warehouseing there is a good oppertunity for Rotorua being central to most of Aoteraroa city’s to create a recycling industry land is affordable here and we need more jobs for Our people . You know that the whole Papatuanuku heres about Queens town thats were all the VIP go .ka kite ano.
    P.S Congratulations Samantha you deserved your win

  16. eco maori 17

    Here we go someone who can see that the common people the poor pay more tax than a lot of wealthy people the link is below.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12081815

    Ka kite ano

  17. eco maori 18

    Ka pai Mexicans for voteing a left Tangata President all the best for your mokopunas future and yours link below.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/02/mexico-election-leftist-amlo-set-for-historic-landslide-victory Ka kite ano

  18. eco maori 19

    Good evening Newshub at six some of these males who complained about the winner of Dancing With The Stars don’t realise that wahine can win to and there moans just show there core values are archaic Samantha deserved her win.
    Yes many Tangata whenua fall victim to the loan predators I say that interest rates should be caped at 5x the Reserve Banks rate not100 % .
    Car finance is a major player in this as one tangata has mentioned the thing is by the time the tangata has payed the car off its stuffed so they trade it in get nothing for the trade in and refinance thats a sham. Ingred its quite warm for Rotorua Ka kite ano

  19. eco maori 20

    Here is another reason why we should put a price on plastic waste at the start to reduce waste and protect our seabirds and wild life link below .

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/02/new-zealand-the-most-perilous-place-for-seabirds-due-to-plastic-pollution Ka kite ano

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