Open mike 02/08/2022

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  1. Blazer 1
    2 August 2022 at 11:05 am

    An interesting critique of the Zelensky narrative (by of all media-a Sky Au journo) that raises some pertinent questions.

    https://youtu.be/KEPWgMXut_8

    • joe90 1.1
      2 August 2022 at 12:03 pm

      Bernardi isn't a fucking journalist. Bernadi's a RWNJ.

      • tc 1.1.1
        2 August 2022 at 2:41 pm

        Cory Bernadi is scomo without the rat cunning as scomo knew where his bread was buttered….Cory shat in that bed so murdochville is his new home.

      • Populuxe1 1.1.2
        2 August 2022 at 3:10 pm

        Sky Australia is the perfect place for him. It's a Murdoch outlet after all.

        • mikesh 1.1.2.1
          2 August 2022 at 3:32 pm

          Whether he is a RWNJ, or scomo without scomo's rat cunning, is beside the point. As always it's the message that matters, not the messenger.

    • Jenny how to get there 1.2
      3 August 2022 at 3:08 am

      Antifa in Ukraine

      Ilya is a Russian anti-fascist anarchist. She fled to Ukraine after a crackdown by the Putin regime on Russian civil society, and has joined the fight against Putin's bloody invasion. Ilya has been joined up with

      ….Putin's invasion is not a war between two states. It’s a war between Putin’s regime and Ukrainian society. In my opinion, the Ukrainian state is corrupt, oligarchic, and neoliberal. I’m not too fond of it. However, Ukrainian society has a lot more freedom and pluralism than its Russian and Belarusian counterparts – than almost all of its neighbors. Turkey is no better than Putin’s Russia, while Poland and Hungary have swayed considerably towards conservatism lately. The Ukrainian state exerts considerably less control over its citizens’ private lives. Since Russia decided to export its authoritarian Mordor-style regime, Ukrainian society needs protection."

      Ilya

      https://theins.ru/en/politics/251492?

  2. logie97 2
    2 August 2022 at 12:12 pm

    A lot is being made of the Cost of Living Payment going to an unknown number of NZers overseas. Perhaps they should see it as the government just giving them back some of the tax they reckon they deserve to receive. After all, they'll get sod all of any tax cuts Luxon is promising.

  3. Visubversa 3
    2 August 2022 at 12:40 pm

    The BNZ seems to be doing a big panic over tax residency status as a result of all this. I have never had a tax residency in other than New Zealand since I opened my account in 1973, but I got a "please update" email yesterday.

    • Graeme 3.1
      2 August 2022 at 12:52 pm

      BNZ has been having kittens about tax residency and anti money laundering for about 6 months. It's taken a couple of days out of our lives filling in inane forms and proving our identities, all for it to not be loaded correctly by staff who haven't a clue what it's about and then having to be done again.

      AML (anti money laundering) has been a thing for 10 years or so but gather this round has been brought on by Ukraine war and ensuing sanctions

    • Matiri 3.2
      2 August 2022 at 1:13 pm

      Rabo has been doing the same thing over the past few months.

    • Puckish Rogue 4.1
      2 August 2022 at 1:08 pm

      Unfortunately management and head office are s**t scared of bad publicity…well when that publicity is right out in the open

      You'd think they best way to deal with something like this is to spray the prisoners with water and then let the cold weather take its course

      The problem is whenever this is suggested the reply is always something along the lines of H&S, its too dangerous because they may slip off the roof etc etc

      So instead 'negotiation' is used to bring the prisoners down, never mind how many tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of damages has been done

      Good times

      • Jimmy 4.1.1
        2 August 2022 at 2:18 pm

        Mind you Trevor Mallard tried the sprinkler approach and that didn't work out too well! Best to just leave them up there, they will come down when they get hungry.

        I always have a bit of a giggle about these prisoners that go on hunger strike……it's only ever going to end one of two ways, either they quit and decide to eat again (which means they are not that dedicated to whatever cause they were striking for), or guards carry out their lifeless bodies once they have passed away.

        • Mac1 4.1.1.1
          2 August 2022 at 2:34 pm

          They're all down now. The reasons why they did the overnight on the roof are not yet public.

          • Puckish Rogue 4.1.1.1.1
            2 August 2022 at 4:38 pm

            Probably a number of factors including, but not limited to:

            boredom, being manipulated, genuine issues that aren't being addressed, imagined issues that aren't being addressed, just being dick heads, wanting to be transferred, not wanting to be transferred, over inflated sense of importance, diagnosed mental health issues, undiagnosed mental health issues, making a name for themselves, not getting enough visits, not getting skype calling etc etc

            Or something else entirely

            • Mac1 4.1.1.1.1.1
              2 August 2022 at 6:19 pm

              I think you may have just covered it, apart from the guys who just went along with the others for the ride……

          • Foreign Waka 4.1.1.1.2
            2 August 2022 at 6:49 pm

            The did not get access to the sports facility by what the news explained at 6pm. Yep, that's right they are in prison for a crime not on recreational grounds. Also in the news a soft knew reaction regarding the ramrads. Something got to give, it is just a matter of time.

            • Puckish Rogue 4.1.1.1.2.1
              2 August 2022 at 7:55 pm

              'The did not get access to the sports facility by what the news explained at 6pm.'

              I don't know with 100% certainty (being that I'm not in the Hawkes Bay) but if its like anywhere else the reason the crims didn't get to go out to the sports field is most likely due to short staffing

              The staffing levels in NZ prisons are dangerously low everywhere, emails have again been put out for anyone wanting to go onto secondments to other prisons

              There are always call backs available in Canterbury and its even worse in the North Island, as an idea check out the the job listings:

              https://mahi.corrections.govt.nz/jobtools/jncustomsearch.searchResults?in_organid=19420&in_jobDate=All

              About the only prison that doesn't have a listing is Invercargill, although strangely none in Canterbury are listed either

              Because we're running short we simply don't have the officers to run things over and above minimum entitlements

        • Drowsy M. Kram 4.1.1.2
          2 August 2022 at 2:48 pm

          I always have a bit of a giggle about these prisoners that go on hunger strike……
          or guards carry out their lifeless bodies once they have passed away.

          What a hoot. /s

          • Jimmy 4.1.1.2.1
            2 August 2022 at 3:05 pm

            You have to remember a lot of these people in there are in for very violent offences and are locked up to protect the public, so if they do decide to go on a hunger strike or do crazy stunts like this, and a few don't make it, is society better off or worse off?

            • Drowsy M. Kram 4.1.1.2.1.1
              2 August 2022 at 3:19 pm

              I realise it's a bit of a giggle to you, but how many humans dying in custody would it take for you to consider the possibility that society was worse off?

              https://www.nzhowardleague.org.nz/

              • Puckish Rogue …
                2 August 2022 at 4:32 pm

                Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                • Jimmy …
                  2 August 2022 at 4:41 pm

                  That must have been an eye opening experience working there. I hope you have not been too scarred by the experience. I can only imagine some of the 'people' you have had the unfortunate dis-pleasure to meet.

                  • Puckish Rogue …
                    2 August 2022 at 4:46 pm

                    The thing is KM and Totara are really easy units to work in, you're at less physical danger

                    The flip side is you talk to people who do things you cant even begin to comprehend or imagine and they think its perfectly acceptable

                    This is one of the few times I won't give examples of what I'm talking about

                    The best thing you can do is not read their sentencing notes or their journals

                • Drowsy M. Kram …
                  2 August 2022 at 9:10 pm

                  So at least 60 people, in your opinion – might you pause at 60, or carry on?

                  • Puckish Rogue …
                    2 August 2022 at 9:14 pm

                    What is your point?

                    That you're a better, more moral person than I am?

                    That I'm borderline evil, sociopathic maybe?

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      2 August 2022 at 9:29 pm

                      What is your point?

                      That you're a better, more moral person than I am?

                      I don't know you Pucky, only what you write here. I’m disinclined to attribute behavioural traits to you on that basis alone – doesn’t stop some people though.

                      For the record, I’m opposed to capital punishment. It’s possible that could change, given the ‘right‘ circumstances, but I’d hope not.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      2 August 2022 at 9:37 pm

                      I'm quite ok with people on here to judge me and you by our words on this subject

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      2 August 2022 at 10:34 pm

                      I'm way too woke to be comfortable with the idea of 60+ deaths at one unit in one prison – might it raise questions about competence?

                      https://www.corrections.govt.nz/resources/statistics/deaths_in_custody

                      That number of deaths would, however, represent a considerable saving to the tax payer, and some might find it a atisfying outcome.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      2 August 2022 at 10:42 pm

                      Shame you can't ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I'd think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      2 August 2022 at 11:34 pm

                      Hang 'em high eh Pucky? So simple – and you'd be a hero. Makes you wonder why the death penalty was abolished in the first place – all those ambitions, thwarted – imagine the ‘fun’ you could have had with Peter Ellis.

                      Innocent people are too often sentenced to death. Since 1973, over 156 people have been released from death rows in 26 states because of innocence. Nationally, at least one person is exonerated for every 10 that are executed.
                      https://www.aclu.org/other/case-against-death-penalty

                      THE MISSION OF THE NATIONAL REGISTRY OF EXONERATIONS is to provide comprehensive information on exonerations of innocent criminal defendants in order to prevent future false convictions by learning from past errors.
                      https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/ExonerationsContribFactorsByCrime.aspx

                    • Puckish Rogue []
                      3 August 2022 at 5:00 am

                      You do know that one of the ways to get into treatment at KM is you have to admit your guilt

                      I'll also note that the Corrections Officers who were in the trial all thought Peter Ellis was innocent

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      3 August 2022 at 11:47 am

                      You do know that false confessions occur in some child sex abuse crimes, albeit relatively rarely.

                      I’ll also note that if indeed “the Corrections Officers who were in the trial all thought Peter Ellis was innocent“, that didn’t do Ellis much good.

                      Since you touted the benefits of executing at least 60 imprisoned Kiwis, and mentioned being prepared to carry out the executions personally, are you also in favour of reinstating the death penalty?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country

                      Imho such a change would be regressive and out of step with many other democratic jurisdictions.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      3 August 2022 at 1:04 pm

                      'You do know that false confessions occur in some child sex abuse crimes, albeit relatively rarely.'

                      I’ll also note that if indeed “the Corrections Officers who were in the trial all thought Peter Ellis was innocent“, that didn’t do Ellis much good.

                      – Again you are wrong. He had a much better time of it in prison than he otherwise would have.

                      Since you touted the benefits of executing at least 60 imprisoned Kiwis, and mentioned being prepared to carry out the executions personally, are you also in favour of reinstating the death penalty?

                      – Well obviously

                      Imho such a change would be regressive and out of step with many other democratic jurisdictions.

                      – My first consideration is to keep babies and children safe from paedophiles, shame you think paedos should be protected

                      – Says a lot about you

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      3 August 2022 at 1:23 pm

                      If you are suggesting that I think paedos should be protected from people who would 'execute' (murder) them, then yes – rule of law and all that. Your approach is too 'Top Gun' and Gung Ho! for my liking.

                      Just to be clear, if we followed the approach you are advocating, then NZ would reinstate the death penalty (removed from our statute books in 1961, except for the crime of treason which was repealed in 1989) and promptly execute at least 60 Kiwis? For starters?

                      https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/nz-behind-un-resolution-abolish-death-penalty

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      3 August 2022 at 1:36 pm

                      'If you are suggesting that I think paedos should be protected from people who would 'execute' (murder) them, then yes – rule of law and all that.'

                      – Just to be clear paedos cannot change, the best you can hope for is that they decide to be celibate and thats it

                      – The price you're willing to pay for the protection of paedos is that a baby or child will be abused

                      https://www.corrections.govt.nz/resources/research/reconviction_rates_of_sex_offenders

                      https://smart.ojp.gov/somapi/chapter-5-adult-sex-offender-recidivism

                      'Your alternative approach is too 'Top Gun' and Gung Ho! for my liking.'

                      – Maverick actually broke a number of laws, I'm advocating a course of action that could only happen after a change in the law, maybe you should try watching the movie

                      'Just to be clear, if NZ followed the approach you are advocating, then we would reinstate the death penalty (removed from our statute books in 1961, except for the crime of treason which was repealed in 1989) and promptly execute at least 60 Kiwis – for starters?'

                      – No you're not clear, they've been sentenced so no I wouldn't advocate for the death penalty for people that've already been sentenced (of course if new charges were to come to light that would certainly be different)

                      – Next time they commit the crime though

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      3 August 2022 at 1:57 pm

                      – Just to be clear paedos cannot change, the best you can hope for is that they decide to be celibate and thats it

                      Hmm – "paedos cannot change", and "they can decide to be celibate". Seems a tad contradictory to me, but you're the sexpert.

                      From your first link:

                      The re-imprisonment rate of adult sex offenders (35%) was twice that of child sex offenders (17%).

                      Pleased you “wouldn’t advocate for the death penalty for people that’ve already been sentenced” – let’s hope no new charges come to light.

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      Your ‘just getting started’ attitude frightens me.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      3 August 2022 at 2:08 pm

                      'Hmm – "paedos cannot change", and "they can decide to be celibate". Seems a tad contradictory to me, but you're the sexpert.'

                      • I am compared to you. They cannot change their sexual attraction to babies and children, the best you can hope for is they decide to be celibate.
                      1. a person who abstains from marriage and sexual relations.

                        "he's attracted to women babies and children and yet he lives as a celibate”

                      'let’s both hope no new charges come to light.'

                      • No. Lets hope that the paedos you want to protect don't rape more babies or children in the future when they're released.
                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      3 August 2022 at 5:45 pm
                      • No. Lets hope that the paedos you want to protect don't rape more babies or children in the future when they're released.

                      >80% don't – who protects them from your itchy execution finger?

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue []
                      3 August 2022 at 7:34 pm

                      So 20% do, you going to go along to the victims and their families and explain to them why you think its acceptable for this to happen?

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      3 August 2022 at 11:29 pm

                      …why you think its acceptable for this to happen?

                      Implying my opposition to your advocacy for the death penalty means that I think child sexual abuse is acceptable is pathetic – for the record (again), I think that child sexual abuse is unacceptable.

                      Sign this petition if it makes you feel better, but what you're advocating wouldn't fly even in the US ('Top Gun' reference!)

                      The death penalty: The past and uncertain future of executions in America

                      https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/facts-and-research/crimes-punishable-by-death/death-penalty-for-offenses-other-than-murder

                      Kennedy v. Louisiana Resource Page
                      “When the law punishes by death, it risks its own sudden descent into brutality, transgressing the constitutional commitment to decency and restraint.”

                      You could relocate to the likes of Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, Saudi Arabia, UAE or China to exercise you itchy execution finger – a move I for one would be comfortable with, if the (imho) extremist views you've expressed in this thread are more than shock jock bravado.

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      Profiling Child Molesters: Thematic Differentiation of Crime Scene
                      Indicators and Correlations to PsychopathologyIndicators and Correlations to Psychopathology                       [2021]

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      4 August 2022 at 7:31 pm

                      ' for the record (again), I think that child sexual abuse is unacceptable.'

                      • Whatever lies you want to tell yourself is your business but as the link you provided stated that 20% (I think it'll be more eventually) will reoffend and you're ok with that

                      You can sit there and think how much better you are, how much more of a moral person you are but know that the cost of what you believe are sexually abused children

                      Deal with it.

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      5 August 2022 at 1:09 am
                      • Whatever lies you want to tell yourself is your business but as the link you provided stated that 20% (I think it'll be more eventually) will reoffend and you're ok with that

                      This "you're ok with that" lie of yours speaks to you character and becomes more pathetic with every repetition. It's clear evidence of the ease with which you lie and smear – deal with it.

                      I oppose the death penalty for any crime, including murder. Your hypothetical solution, i.e. the execution at least 60 Kiwis (for starters), is unethical and (thankfully) illegal. That there is not even a hint of reluctance to perform those executions yourself tells me all I need (or want) to know about you.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      5 August 2022 at 3:42 pm

                      'That there is not even a hint of reluctance to perform those executions yourself tells me all I need (or want) to know about you.'

                      – In my opinion if you want executions brought back you should willing to carry it out yourself not put it off onto someone else

                      – So tell me how many babies and children would it take to be raped to make you change your mind on this or is your mind made up?

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      5 August 2022 at 4:02 pm

                      My support for NZ law – killing by the State, or anyone, is illegal – won't change.

                      If (in your mind) that means I'm OK with the sexual abuse of children, then there really is no basis for further dialogue. You seem to be flogging a dead horse.

                      https://nzhistory.govt.nz/flogging-whipping-abolished

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      5 August 2022 at 4:14 pm

                      Considering you put paedos ahead of little kids tells me all I need to know about you and your priorities

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      5 August 2022 at 5:17 pm

                      Considering you put paedos ahead of little kids…

                      Are lies and smears all you’ve got?
                      You’re really giving this dead horse of yours a pounding – pathetic x3.

                    • Puckish Rogue []
                      6 August 2022 at 6:57 am

                      Maybe you need to get off your moral high horse and understand exactly what your beliefs lead to

                      Ever thought of becoming a CO and spending time with the people you so piously defend?

                      Naah you probably think that's beneath you, much easier to criticise those who do it rather than roll up your sleeves and try to help at the coalface

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      6 August 2022 at 9:23 am

                      Maybe you need to get off your moral high horse and understand exactly what your beliefs lead to

                      My belief is that current NZ law constraining you from executing Kiwis is sound. "New Zealand’s last execution occurred fifty [65] years ago, in 1957. Capital punishment was removed from our statute books in 1961 [National Govt, under Holyoake]" – maybe you need to understand why the reintroduction of the death penalty, that you appear to be gagging for, would be regressive.

                      Naah you probably think that's beneath you, much easier to criticise those who do it rather than roll up your sleeves and try to help at the coalface

                      I'm critiquing these (imho unhelpful) comments made by a fellow public servant on this site.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place [2 Augist @4:32 pm]

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      "I'm quite ok with people on here to judge me and you by our words on this subject" – roll up your sleeves and deal with it.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 10:03 am

                      "I'm quite ok with people on here to judge me and you by our words on this subject" – roll up your sleeves and deal with it."

                      I want paedoes executed, you want to protect paedoes.

                      I don't mind everyone knowing how I feel about this subject, are you?

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 12:40 pm

                      I want paedoes executed, you want to protect paedoes.

                      You want at least 60 paedos executed (for starters), and would carry out the executions yourself.

                      In NZ, the death penalty was abolished before you were born – imho your advocacy for capital punishment is regressive.

                      I believe your proposed 'solution' to the evil that is child sexual abuse is itself evil ("That I'm borderline evil, sociopathic maybe?" – 2 August @9:14 pm) – that's not going to change, and so our ideas on how best to decrease the incidence of child sexual abuse are irreconcilable.

                      On at least one thing we do agree – "I'm quite ok with people on here to judge me and you by our words on this subject", and will continue to remind readers here of your words.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      Btw, did you get the Tom Cruise reference in my previous comment – a bit oblique maybe.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 12:54 pm

                      So do it then.

                      Put a new post up explaining how you want to protect paedos, explain how at least 20% (and thats low in my opinion) will reoffend, explain what reoffend means and then post my solution to paedos

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 1:07 pm

                      you want to protect paedos

                      I believe in the rule of NZ law that protects all Kiwis from execution by the State – you don’t. Apart from paedos, are there perhaps other groups you might consider adding to your fantasy execution list?

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      Female perpetrators of child sexual abuse: A review of the clinical and empirical literature – A 20-year update [January 2022]
                      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178921001415

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 1:09 pm

                      Put a new post up explaining how you want to protect paedos, explain how at least 20% (and thats low in my opinion) will reoffend, explain what reoffend means and then post my solution to paedos

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 2:47 pm

                      Put a new post up explaining how you want to protect paedos…

                      Won't respond to your demand unless you can provide a quote that shows I think child sexual abuse is acceptable. No weasily inferences or deductions on your part – just a direct quote.

                      I don't need to protect paedos from execution by you – NZ law protects them. A professional, rational CO would understand why that is. Imho your comments in this thread are a disgrace.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:03 pm

                      Put a new post up explaining how you want to protect paedos, explain how at least 20% (and thats low in my opinion) will reoffend, explain what reoffend means and then post my solution to paedos.

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:07 pm

                      Won't respond to your demand unless you can provide a quote that shows I think child sexual abuse is acceptable. No weasily inferences or deductions on your part – just a direct quote.

                      Imho your comments in this thread are a disgrace – over to you.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:15 pm

                      Put a new post up explaining how you want to protect paedos, explain how at least 20% (and thats low in my opinion) will reoffend, explain what reoffend means and then post my solution to paedos.

                      You won't post because you know people on here will side with me (a known conservative) more than you

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:28 pm

                      You won’t post because you know people on here will side with me (a known conservative) more than you

                      Maybe most people reading this would be happy if (at least) 60 child sex offenders "suddenly died in custody" (“a good start“), but it seems like a slippery slope. If you can't see that then fine, and under NZ law it's a moot point anyway – no rational CO is going to risk facing multiple homicide charges just to exercise an itchy execution finger.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:34 pm

                      Too gutless to make a post and (correct me if I'm wrong) certainly too gutless to put on a uniform and deal with these people face to face

                      What use are you?

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:46 pm

                      I'm critiquing these (imho) disgraceful comments; it’s not personal.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      7 August 2022 at 3:52 pm

                      You made it personal:

                      'Hang 'em high eh Pucky? So simple – and you'd be a hero. Makes you wonder why the death penalty was abolished in the first place – all those ambitions, thwarted – imagine the ‘fun’ you could have had with Peter Ellis.'

                      You won't even create a post because you know you'll lose, you who won't even put a uniform to see what prison is really like yet you'll happily 'critique' those who do

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      7 August 2022 at 5:12 pm

                      Why did the NZ Parliament abolish the death penalty?
                      Here's (one reason) why.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      I’m sure you’re a winner in your own mind, but this one was ‘lost’ before you were born – deal with it.

                      “New Zealand’s last execution occurred fifty [65] years ago, in 1957. Capital punishment was removed from our statute books in 1961 [National Govt, under Holyoake]”

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      8 August 2022 at 6:26 am

                      Well done, you support something that happened over 60 years ago and won't ever come back, so stunning and brave of you to make this stand

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      8 August 2022 at 9:47 am

                      Thanks PR, in the same vein your advocacy for mass executions is stunning and brave – what you are proposing would certainly be a first in NZ.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      The child sex offender ‘treatment’ you are proposing is, however, illegal – please select a different treatment.

                      DOES SEX OFFENDER TREATMENT FOR ADULTS REDUCE REOFFENDING?
                      New Zealand evidence
                      Studies have found that child sex offender treatment for adults in New Zealand is effective.
                      Three separate studies have assessed the child sex offender treatment programme provided by Corrections in its special treatment units at Rolleston and Auckland Prisons. The researchers found that child sex offenders who completed the programme, were significantly less likely to be charged or reconvicted for a sexual offence than untreated child sex offenders.
                      https://www.justice.govt.nz/assets/Documents/Publications/Sex-Offender-Treatment-for-Adults.pdf. [Sept 2016]

                      Treatment Interventions for Perpetrators of Sexual Violence

                    • Incognito []
                      8 August 2022 at 11:19 am

                      The research could quite possibly do with an update, but the message seems clear enough:

                      “The evaluation shows that participants who completed the community-based programmes had a 5.2 percent recidivism rate, compared against the recidivism rate for untreated child sex offenders of between 16 to 21 percent,” says Jared Mullen, General Manager Policy Development.

                      The community-based programmes are funded by a number of agencies, including Corrections, Child, Youth and Family, and other community funding sources.

                      “It’s reassuring to know that effective programmes for this type of offending are available and being delivered in New Zealand, both in prison and in the community,” says Jared.

                      “However, we should remember that there’s no such thing as a cure for sex offending – no matter how good a therapeutic programme is, some participants will re-offend at some stage. All programme graduates need to maintain life-long vigilance against slipping back into old patterns.”

                      In New Zealand, treatment options for child sex offenders fall into three main groups: prison-based sex offender treatment units (such as Kia Marama at Rolleston Prison and Te Piriti at Auckland Prison), community provider programmes, and individual intervention through a psychologist.

                      The prison-based programmes have consistently evaluated well, with a 2002 Canadian review 1 of sex offender programmes putting Kia Marama alongside the most effective treatment programmes available internationally, on the basis of Kia Marama’s evaluation document, And There Was Light.

                      https://www.corrections.govt.nz/resources/research/child-sex-offender-treatment

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      8 August 2022 at 1:56 pm

                      Thanks Incognito (@11:19 am) – I have next-to-no experience in this area, but imho the idea of initiating mass executions in NZ is extremely regressive, and to advocate for same is disgraceful.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      8 August 2022 at 8:58 pm

                      'but imho the idea of initiating mass executions in NZ is extremely regressive, and to advocate for same is disgraceful.'

                      Advocating (legal) executions for paedophiles is, to me, less abhorrent than advocating for a system that you know will mean children and babies get raped

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      8 August 2022 at 10:23 pm

                      Advocating (legal) executions for paedophiles is, to me, less abhorrent than advocating for a system that you know will mean children and babies get raped

                      Yes, we agree that advocating for (unprecedented) mass executions and advocating for child rape are both abhorrent (disgusting and repugnant); not going to quibble about the lesser of two evils.

                      But it seems unlikely (to me) that the Government-funded system currently affording you employment as a CO is deliberately facilitating child sexual abuse – if I genuinely believed I was working for such a system, then I would quit – you know, get some guts and all that.

                      Would also quit if I was working for a system when it deliberately initiated mass executions ("a good start") – it's just personal principle.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      9 August 2022 at 6:32 am

                      'if I genuinely believed I was working for such a system, then I would quit – you know, get some guts and all that.'

                      Yet you don't have the guts to make a post outlining your views and beliefs what those beliefs lead to

                      From the link you provided 20% will reoffend (and it'll be more than 20% in reality)

                      Get some guts, make a post and see what everyone else thinks

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 9:45 am

                      No electable political party supports what you're advocating (mass executions within the NZ penal system) – your extremely regressive 'treatment methods' for “kiddy fiddlers” will not be implemented.

                      Imho these comments of yours are simply impotent macho bluster – if you genuinely believe that mass executions of child sex abusers would be "a good start", then please relocate to Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, UAE or China, where your itchy execution finger might make a difference.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      9 August 2022 at 7:22 pm

                      'then please relocate to Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, China, UAE or China, where your itchy execution finger might make a difference.'

                      And who'd replace me, you?

                      Someone so gutless they won't even put up a post because they're scared of the reactions they'll get

                      Yeah right

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 7:41 pm

                      Someone so gutless they won’t even put up a post because they’re scared of the reactions they’ll get

                      Haven’t stopped commenting in this thread yet, and don’t intend to while comments remain open, because I believe your advocacy for mass executions within NZ penal system is extremely regressive, and disgraceful – a boil that needs to be lanced, so to speak.

                      And who'd replace me, you?

                      Doubt I'd be eligible – is it your contention that any replacement hired by Corrections would also advocate mass executions?

                      Tbf, the idea that an applicant for a CO position could harbour ambitions of carrying out mass executions within the NZ penal system probably never crossed the minds of your interviewers, and yet here are your words, in black and white.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      9 August 2022 at 8:14 pm

                      'Doubt I'd be eligible – is it your contention that any replacement hired by Corrections would also advocate mass executions?'

                      – Its my contention that anyone who hasn't got the courage to put a new post on here certainly wouldn't have the courage to step foot on the floor and tell prisoners what to do

                      'Tbf, the idea that an applicant for a CO position could harbour ambitions of carrying out mass executions within the NZ penal system probably never crossed the minds of your interviewers, and yet here are your words, in black and white.'

                      – Unlike you I stand by my words so keep posting them here or, if you've got the guts, a new post tomorrow morning

                      – Also sorry (not sorry) to burst your bubble but within Corrections Officers my views, not yours, are mainstream

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 8:39 pm

                      Unlike you I stand by my words…

                      Like you, I stand by my words – advocating (on a left-leaning political blog, no less) for mass executions within the NZ penal system is extremely regressive, and disgraceful; a boil that needs to be lanced.

                      …so keep posting them here

                      Thanks – I most certainly will.

                      Also sorry (not sorry) to burst your bubble but within Corrections Officers my views, not yours, are mainstream

                      If these views really are mainstream among (a majority of?) Corrections Officers, then (imho) the Minister of Corrections should be made aware (if he isn’t already) – OK if I email this thread to his office, or will you?

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                      office.davis@parliament.govt.nz

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 8:42 pm

                      Good, then the Minister’s office will receive this thread twice. [Oops, your reply seems to have disappeared?]

                      Don't know why you're so insistent that I should put up a new post – this thread is going OK as far as I'm concerned.

                      Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place

                      Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      9 August 2022 at 8:48 pm

                      'Good, then his office will receive this thread twice. [Oops, your reply seems to have disappeared?]'

                      – I'm shaking in my boots

                      'Don't know why you're so hot and bothered about me starting a new post – this one is fine as far as I'm concerned.'

                      – As course this is fine for you, no one else is reading it.

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 9:37 pm

                      I don't mind how many people apart from you and me might read this thread or this email – hopefully at least one other person.

                      To the Office of the Minister of Corrections (the Hon Kelvin Davis)

                      It has come to my attention today that a NZ Corrections Officer who is advocating for mass executions within the NZ penal system, also believes that this view is mainstream among COs.

                      Normally I would dismiss such regressive advocacy as right-wing bravado, but he is an insider and, as such, perhaps his insights into work-related attitudes among COs should be taken seriously.

                      I would appreciate some reassurance from you, or your office, that advocacy for mass executions of prisoners is not widespread among Corrections staff. If these extremely regressive views are, in fact, widely held, then in my opinion this would constitute a metaphorical boil in need of lancing.

                      The following two direct quotes (made by the anonymous NZ Corrections Officer who drew this to my attention, and who has assured me that he will also be providing your office with the relevant thread) sums up the advocacy that I find so disgraceful. The entire thread (and a link to same) is appended at the end of this email.

                      "Considering my last shift was in Kia Marama I could name at least 60 people whose deaths would make NZ a much better, safer, place"

                      "Shame you can’t ask the families of the victims what they think but if 60 child sex offenders suddenly died in custody I’d think its a good start

                      I know what your next question is going to be and the answer is yes I would be willing to carry out the executions myself, if the death penalty was reinstated"

                      Sincerely, a concerned citizen [gave my real name in the email]

                      Well, that's done – don't expect anything beyond an acknowledgement but will let you know.

                    • Puckish Rogue …
                      9 August 2022 at 9:54 pm

                      I'll wait with bated breath, thats sarcasm if you weren't sure

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 9:58 pm

                      smiley

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      9 August 2022 at 11:28 pm

                      Tēnā koe,

                      Ngā mihi nui o te wā ki a koe.

                      Thank you for your email to the Hon. Kelvin Davis, MP for Te Tai Tokerau.

                      If your email is concerning one of his portfolios we will forward your correspondence onto Wellington for his team to action at k.davis@parliament.govt.nz

                      If your email is regarding an issue within the Te Tai Tokerau Electorate we will be in contact as soon as is possible. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause.

                      Please accept this as acknowledgement of your correspondence.

                      Nākū noa,

                      The Office of the Hon Kelvin Davis

                      MP for Te Tai Tokerau

                      Minister of Corrections
                      Minister for Children
                      Minister for Te Arawhiti – Crown/Māori Relationships
                      Associate Minister of Education (Māori Education)
                      Deputy Leader of Labour Party

                      Authorised by Hon. Kelvin Davis MP, Parliament Buidings, Wellington

                    • Drowsy M. Kram …
                      10 August 2022 at 9:54 am

                      Email this morning, from a person (!) – will keep you informed:

                      Thank you for raising this, I have sent to our Wellington team to take a look into.

                  • Puckish Rogue …
                    9 August 2022 at 8:39 pm

                    'Like you, I stand by my words – advocating for mass executions within the NZ penal system is extremely regressive, and disgraceful; a boil that needs to be lanced.'

                    No you don't.

                    You stand by your words when it suits you but you don't have the guts to start a new thread

                    'If these views are mainstream among Corrections Officers then (imho) the Minister of Corrections should be made aware – OK if I email this thread to his office, or will you?'

                    Sure I will

              • Jimmy …
                2 August 2022 at 4:35 pm

                It is pretty hard to get in to prison these days with a lot of judges giving very 'soft' home detention type sentences to reduce the prison numbers. But to be honest, if all the recidivist rapists, murderers, drug dealers and violent offenders that are in prison were suddenly 'wiped out' tomorrow (and I don't know how many that would be), I wouldn't lose any sleep.

        • Puckish Rogue 4.1.1.3
          2 August 2022 at 4:27 pm

          'Mind you Trevor Mallard tried the sprinkler approach and that didn't work out too well!'

          I'd use it differently, spray them to make them wet and let the cold take care of the rest.

          No tents or supporters for the guys on the roof

          'Best to just leave them up there, they will come down when they get hungry.'

          Problem with that is the amount of damage they can do while up there, the potential for injury (I couldn't care less if they hurt themselves but you know what the medias like…) and that its the prisoners decision to come down which means in this situation they have control

          One way officers used to end hunger strikes was by cooking various foods and letting the smells do their thing or by making a very sweetened cup of tea/coffee but yeah with hunger strikers we actually monitor what they eat and drink, a real time consuming pain in the butt

  5. DB Brown 5
    2 August 2022 at 1:21 pm

    A 60 year treaty of friendship with Samoa (as of yesterday) – that's awesome. We're there celebrating this event and with gifts. Lovely story.

    Also, embedded in the article is a rare clip – Our opposition leader not tripping over himself and politicking well.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/129452293/pm-jacinda-ardern-announces-funds-for-rebuild-of-historic-market-climate-change-projects-in-samoa

  6. joe90 6
    2 August 2022 at 1:56 pm

    Out with the old half-wit, in with the new one.

    /

    https://twitter.com/RuthHen05786097/status/1554223524142792708

    • Stuart Munro 6.1
      2 August 2022 at 3:35 pm

      The Conservatives should be more grateful – Starmer will never cobble together a majority while Nicola Sturgeon holds the North.

  7. Tony Veitch (not etc.) 7
    2 August 2022 at 2:27 pm

    Ha! Natz Bennet, a Luxon/Muller lookalike, lasted less than 10 minutes into QT today!

    But at least he found the exit without assistance! (Or at least, I hope so!)

    • Peter 7.1
      2 August 2022 at 3:33 pm

      Dammit, I missed that. I've seen him before where he demonstrated a remarkable lack of intelligence. He simply didn't 'get' stuff.

  8. Robert Guyton 8
    2 August 2022 at 5:10 pm

    Did anyone watch this??

    Every body should!!

    Kiri – amazing!!

    Question 11 – Hon Paul Goldsmith to the Minister of Justice

    (can't link).

  9. Stephen D 9
    2 August 2022 at 5:53 pm

    The Greens are probably right, Part Two.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/01/climate-endgame-risk-human-extinction-scientists-global-heating-catastrophe?utm_term=62e8ba27a84b101beef408793622657a&utm_campaign=FirstEdition&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=firstedition_email

    ”The risk of global societal collapse or human extinction has been “dangerously underexplored”, climate scientists have warned in an analysis.”

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    19 hours ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    20 hours ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    21 hours ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    23 hours ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    4 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    5 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    5 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Sad tales from the left
    Michael Bassett writes –  Have you noticed the odd way in which the media are handling the government’s crackdown on surplus employees in the Public Service? Very few reporters mention the crazy way in which State Service numbers rocketed ahead by more than 16,000 during Labour’s six years, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • In Whose Best Interests?
    On The Spot: The question Q+A host, Jack Tame, put to the Workplace & Safety Minister, Act’s Brooke van Velden, was disarmingly simple: “Are income tax cuts right now in the best interests of lowering inflation?”JACK TAME has tested another MP on his Sunday morning current affairs show, Q+A. Minister for Workplace ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Don’t Question, Don’t Complain.
    It has to start somewhereIt has to start sometimeWhat better place than here?What better time than now?So it turns out that I owe you all an apology.It seems that all of the terrible things this government is doing, impacting the lives of many, aren’t necessarily ‘bad’ per se. Those things ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Auckland faces 25% water inflation shock
    Three Waters became a focus of anti-Government protests under Labour, but its dumping by the new Government hasn’t solved councils’ funding problems and will eventually hit the back pockets of everyone. Photo: Lynn Grieveson/Getty ImagesTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 8:06 am today are:The Government ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    6 days ago

  • Small accomplishments and large ironies
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    6 days ago

  • The Song of Saqua: Volume VII
    In order to catch up to the actual progress of the D&D campaign, I present you with another couple of sessions. These were actually held back to back, on a Monday and Tuesday evening. Session XV Alas, Goatslayer had another lycanthropic transformation… though this time, he ran off into the ...
    A Phuulish FellowBy strda221
    6 days ago

  • Accelerating the Growth Rate?
    There is a constant theme from the economic commentariat that New Zealand needs to lift its economic growth rate, coupled with policies which they are certain will attain that objective. Their prescriptions are usually characterised by two features. First, they tend to be in their advocate’s self-interest. Second, they are ...
    PunditBy Brian Easton
    6 days ago

  • The only thing we have to fear is tenants themselves
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    7 days ago

  • Peters talks of NZ “renewing its connections with the world” – but who knew we had been discon...
    Buzz from the Beehive The thrust of the country’s foreign affairs policy and its relationship with the United States have been addressed in four statements from the Beehive over the past 24 hours. Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters somewhat curiously spoke of New Zealand “renewing its connections with a world ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    7 days ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    16 hours ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
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    3 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
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    3 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    4 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
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    4 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
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    4 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
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    4 days ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
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    7 days ago

  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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    7 days ago

  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
    The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago

  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
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