Tory immunity to facts will not make them disappear.
“They come from Oxfam, Unicef, Rights Advice Scotland, the British Medical Association, the Welfare Reform Committee of the Holyrood Parliament and many more besides. They have two things in common.
First, they demonstrate, time and again, that the destruction of social security provision in Britain is having a cataclysmic effect, hitting the poorest communities first and vulnerable people hardest. There are statistics, tables and charts enough to satisfy any sceptic’s demand for evidence.
Second, each of these documents is born of a strange, indignant naivety. The writers and researchers cling to the belief that if only Government could be made to address mountains of evidence, understanding would dawn. Facts, datasets, unimpeachable methodology, objective truths: who could ignore reports from reality?”
Read the rest of this article by Ian Bell in the Herald Scotland. It could just as well have been written for a New Zealand context.
There are genuine heroes in this country and I rate John Minto at the very top of that list
Wage and salary earners pay tax on every dollar we earn and every dollar we spend but these layabouts hide their money in trusts, overseas bank accounts and tax havens of all kinds and leave the rest of us to keep the country running. Most of them have never done an honest day’s work in their lives. Miserable pricks.
John Minto giving a perfect description of National’s Simon Lusk perhaps ???, mind you Slippery the PM appears to fit well within Minto’s short analysis of the speculative capitalists…
“Conservation spokeswoman Eugenie Sage and climate change spokesman Kennedy Graham were both considered “safe” Green MPs, but some within Labour doubted whether they had the profile to be Cabinet Ministers.” [http://www.nzherald.co./nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10887884]
Some within Labour doubted??
Come on, let’s be brutally honest – both Kennedy Graham and Eugenie Sage would easily and undoubtedly clear the line for Cabinet Minister if the benchmark is Shearer has the profile to be PM.
And Granny comes to National and Key’s rescue again classing what Norman said as personality politics rather than the as the bold statement of facts that they are. IIRC, they certainly didn’t class Key’s attack (devil beast) as personality politics (otherwise known as ad hominem) but that’s exactly what they were.
Wow, just watched the Q&A interview of Metiria Turei, she is outstanding. What a great team Turei and Norman.
The Green Party is on a roll, they are the best thing that has happened in New Zealand politics in a long time. Their timing in attacking National is perfect, people are sick of what National are doing and the MSM are providing them with a free reign. The Greens are showing that they are tough, ruthless and strongly principled.
I’m picking 18% to 20% in 2014, some coming from female voters who voted National in 2011, but most coming from traditional Labour voters.
Really loving the way they are handling themselves and the media. Marama Davidson running in Ikaroa-Rāwhiti for the Greens – it’s a great line up going into 2014.
Agreed Saarbo. Metiria is outstanding. She is warm, speaks with clarity and shows empathy, commonsense, strength, and vision.
This long time Labour member has made the switch.
May not have if David Cunliffe had become the Labour leader after the last election. But we were never given the chance to see what a difference he could have made (similar qualities to those of Metiria.) My guess is he would have been on fire against this despicable government from the get go…and inspired a whole nation in the process. The political landscape would now be a lot different.
But it didn’t happen…and to boot he was sent to Coventry.
Labour’s loss – Green’s gain.
Go Russell and Metiria. I can’t wait to see you and your principled team part of the next government.
Indeed, i met Metiria and Her Sis a lifetime ago and way back then just ‘knew’ that one or the other, (or both), were going places,
Not places dictated by naked ambition but places dictated by the need to make the necessary changes no matter what it cost or how long it took,
A heart of gold and a backbone of steel, i near fell off my seat laughing when prior to the 2011 election Metiria took apart the Education Minister with a 30 second burst in a RadioNZ National debate that would have stripped paint and certainly shut the babbling mouth of Ann Tolley who sat through the remainder of the discussion in what i can only infer was shocked silence…
There are huge downsides for the Greens if they were to hit 20% – growing unsustainably fast has many dangers for a political party which needs to continue to develop it’s own institutional structures and processes.
Gaining another 4-5 MPs however is probably exactly what the Greens need to keep on track (to become NZ’s dominant left wing party).
I think once the Greens get into government, they’ll either surge ahead in popularity, or drop back, but they won’t stay at their mid-teens level once they get a chance to show their mettle.
I’m picking surge ahead, taken mainly from Labour but also a bit from National. 2017 could end up seeing them as almost-equals with Labour.
I think political parties tend to lose popularity — whether slowly or quickly — once in power, when the compromises of wielding power are laid bare and grand plans suffer when they come into contact with the civil service, the media, the judiciary and other institutions, let alone the public.
So desperate for signs of positivity, that the manufactured rise of the Greens is being cheered on.
People need to be weary of anything/anyone, coming from inside the existing system, these are not organic creations.
Perhaps read some policy, then look at what political parties do to those policies, once they are part of a government. Lies, lies and more lies, followed by *new polciy*, which not not part of any manefesto, pre elections.
People on this site need to understand more about economics/finance reality, before backing any party, understand the reality. Yes Norman has referenced *printing money*, but he is talking crap, it will not be done, or it would have by now.
Should The Greens form a government, they will be bound by the same constraints as any other part, beholden to the global institutions, thats assuming Norman is not the Green equivalent of David Shearer, which IMO, he is!
Someone argue otherwise, please go ahead and give it a crack!
Norman is nothing like Shearer.
Norman has an elegance about him, Shearer comes across awkward
Norman articulates his argument, Shearer is inconsistent
Norman’s identity alines closely with his party val. Shearer at times does the opposite (esp. welfare)
As for the rest of your argument I’d be surprised if you voted at all given your underlying belief that the system we have is inherently flawed.
I was thinking of buying Coca Cola shares, but this neoliberal agenda sounds even better. Do they have a prospectus?
Greens/Labour and Norman/Shearer strike me as very unlike each other. It was well summarized above that Norman has an argument and articulates it. Shearer doesn’t and doesn’t. You could extrapolate from that to their respective parties and not be too far off base.
There is a lot of hand-wringing about what Labour has to do to explain what they stand for, but it seems like the best first step would be to, you know, stand for something.
“Do you believe that a party inside the current parliamentary system, is going to defend NZ against the owners of the neoliberal agenda?”
Yes. I trust Norman, Turei and the GP to do this to the best of their ability within the constraints of the system.
I don’t expect miracles though. I’m not sure what you are doing running this line that no party can do anything good. The GP aren’t responsible for overthrowing neoliberalism, but they can definitely hold the line for a while. At the very least they will be a positive force in some areas instead of the overwhelmingly negative force of Key Inc.
“Do you believe that having a vote, has made any meaningful change, under the neoliberal agenda of the past 40+ years?”
Yes. We got MMP. We were better off having the Clark govt than another 2 terms of the 90s Nats.
That’s interesting. A New Zealand politician actually has the integrity and the courage to protest against our government cozying up to a brutal regime, and is attacked by foreign goons ON THE GROUNDS OF OUR PARLIAMENT—and your reaction is to pour scorn on him.
I am not surprised, not in the slightest. That you side with the Chinese regime even as its thugs attack a New Zealand MP in the grounds of the New Zealand parliament is exactly what I would have predicted.
I just never thought you would be so foolish as to openly publish it.
How is that siding with the “Chinese regime”, fool?
More to the point, how can a Member of the New Zealand Parliament be so lacking in gravitas and standing as to make a mockery of our sovereignty by getting himself manhandled by a foreign dignitary’s security detail?
How is that siding with the “Chinese regime”, fool?
Even considering the fact you are not serious, that is a particularly crass reply.
….how can a Member of the New Zealand Parliament be so lacking in gravitas and standing as to make a mockery of our sovereignty by getting himself manhandled by a foreign dignitary’s security detail?
You have no idea about, and no respect for, the concept of democracy. No wonder you scorn protestors and, yes, side with the Chinese regime.
Interesting!!!, in 2009 the IMF in it’s interim report to the incoming National Government made a point, (at paragraph 15 if my memory serves me right), that the incoming government should seriously consider quantitative easing, *printing money*, as opposed to borrowing the 80 billion dollars it has up to this point accumulated as the actual cost to New Zealand of this particular regime,
Interim reports from the IMF are of course referred to Governments for comment and a negotiation of what is compiles as the final report then takes place, the final report issued early in 2009 made no mention of *printing money* and it is obvious that the present Government had this section edited from the interim report in it’s negotiations with the IMF over what the final IMF report to the incoming Government would recommend,
That interim IMF report to the incoming National Government disappeared soon after i began highlighting it’s contents on another website and my mistake was to not access a printer and make a hard copy of it,
Obviously the actions of this National Government in the past two terms have negated the advice from the IMF that the Government print the monies necessary to cover it’s ”losses” as a result of the Global Financial Crisis instead opting for that 80 billion dollars of debt,
Given the above it would seem that Dr Norman was at the time calling for the printing of money by the Government from a point of the current financial orthodoxy and it is not Dr Norman proposing some form of ‘voodoo economics’ but yourself, Bill English and John Key who have their heads buried in the sand or in the s**t in the case of the latter two…
I’m well aware of the IMF reports which come out including the one you mention, and being in opposition, as I noted yesterday in a comment, is a very easy place to make loud noises from (unless you’re David Shearer).
IMF, WB UNESCO et al, the globalist enterprises, pump out these papers/reports on a regular basis, and they are not worth the paper they are printed on!
Who do you believe the IMF to be, some altuistic establishment?
Why is the RBNZ Govenor, ex long time World Bank MD, who is named in corruption goings on by Karen Hudes?
Who i believe the IMF to be is irrelevant to this discussion, i am simply pointing out to you that ‘crap’ as you ascribe to Dr Norman was at the time the Dr was calling for the Government to *print money* instead of borrowing it the prevailing financial orthodoxy,
Your insinuation that the Green Party is some form of ‘plant’ in a conspiracy is what i consider to be the only ‘crap’ being spread here,
Your petty allegations are laughable and ill considered and the sum total of your beliefs seems to encompass a ‘they are all corrupt don’t vote for any of them’ underlying motive…
My contention was, as per the example I gave from a post yesterday, is that its very easy to make the right noises, when you’re not even an official govt opposition..
Russel has nothing to lose by repeating the *money printing* diatribe, which would be a far cry from what he would do, should he get near enough to the treasury strings to enact such a policy. To believe Norman would enact such a policy, of his own accord, is simply utter crap, he will do, only what he is told, within the narrow parameters that those who dictate to NZ, will allow!
Tell me all about Russel Norman then, tell me why I should believe his alleged back story, anymore than I believe Shearers , makes him anything other an a plant, put in place to do/say nothing *controversial*, let alone attack the governments continued failures.
Instead there is Norman, as a pseudo opposition leader and *spokesman*, how very convenient!
Yawn you start today’s diatribe with a wish that readers and commentors here at the Standard had some understanding of fiscal matters and it would seem vis a vis the ‘crap’ comment you point in Dr Norman’s direction you in particular target the Green party,
When i point out to you that Norman was in tune with what all the major economy’s, (except the Chinese who have plenty of the filthy lucre and therefor have no need), along with the IMF advice in His comments over ‘quantitative easing’ you retreat to making a series of baseless, unfounded allegations about the Co-Leader of the Green Party,
i don’t propose to tell you shit about Dr Norman and if you have any specific allegation to make about Him i suggest you do so providing a modicum of proof otherwise you run the risk in spreading such baseless allegations of looking as if you are simply shit-stirring in an effort to cover up your lite-weight knowledge of the economic situation,
i will tho point out that Dr Norman when He proposes the printing of money is diametrically in opposition to not only National but Labour as well who have no such fiscal policy instead adhering to the ‘borrowing option’,
If what i see occurring after November 2014, or November 2017 is to become in fact the reality with the Government’s fiscal position then i believe at that point Labour may have to reconsider it’s fiscal policy…
When i point out to you that Norman was in tune with what all the major economy’s, (except the Chinese who have plenty of the filthy lucre and therefor have no need)
Uh, the Chinese banks are likely sitting on a sky high mountain of bad debts and bad mortgages.
Once you take into account the massive amount of NPLs and the need to recapitalise the Chinese banks…I think you’ll find that China has fuck all money left over. And I think that the Chinese leadership know it, but are keeping a very straight poker face.
CV, you may or may not be right in your analysis of the unstated Chinese fiscal position but from an orthodox position it is what the figures say it is,
Perhaps i should have alluded to such in my comment but giving the persona i am at present debating with chances at diverting from the central issue of debate would simply have him/her play tic tac toe with me changing the subject materially with every comment…
Yawn you start today’s diatribe with a wish that readers and commentors here at the Standard had some understanding of fiscal matters and it would seem vis a vis the ‘crap’ comment you point in Dr Norman’s direction you in particular target the Green party,
What are you yawning at? And yes many here do not even understand basic financial/economic concepts, which leads to most threads being little more than a running commentary of the decline in, NZ inc!
When i point out to you that Norman was in tune with what all the major economy’s, (except the Chinese who have plenty of the filthy lucre and therefor have no need), along with the IMF advice in His comments over ‘quantitative easing’ you retreat to making a series of baseless, unfounded allegations about the Co-Leader of the Green Party
Retreat – Nah, you’re pretending you knew what my original comments position was, you interpreted it incorrectly, I explained again, you don’t accept it, too bad12!
The below is something for you to look further at:
The NZ Reserve Bank act, effectively separated the elected NZ government from the right to print our own money. The RBNZ is run by unelected individuals, and has responsibility to the crown, which most people interpret to be the NZ government.
Bit defensive, yet attacking all in the same space, B12 – What’s the reason for that bro?
The only thing i can say about your latest attempt = are you pissed or somehow suffering under an altered mental state,
As debate that scores a zero on my register and is hardly worth answering, you make allegations about Dr Norman in particular, when called upon to provide facts you provide nothing,
Your latest little attempt at side-tracking the debate away from the unfounded accusations you make against Dr Norman simply moves you further into the realm of ‘tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist’,
And what you trot out as something ‘i should take a look at’ is simply laughable, Crown when such language is used in official speak is simply the NZ Government and your alluding to this particular passage from an act shows your abject lack of intellect,
It is Governments who appoint the Governor of the Reserve Bank and if any future Government had no faith in a particular governor to carry out that Governments fiscal policies i am sure they would force His/Her resignation,
As far as the Reserve Bank legislation removing from a Government the ability to ‘print money’ aaah derrrr any Government can choose to change any legislation any time it so wishes….
Dr Norman, lol, wait on, can you get his balls in your mouth too…
You got all heated up, over my saying, IMO, Norman, is talking crap, while in a position of ZERO influence!
Go read up on the Reserve Bank Act (RBNZ/OoDM), and *The Crown*, then you might have something to contribute to a conversation around such subject matter.
It’s weird how the RWNJs ignore the massive increases in global M1, M2 and M3. Where do they think that money is coming from, if not printed ex nihilo?
Norman is talking crap, because, even if he had the opportunity to influence/alter NZ Monetary Policy, he would do NO such thing! If it were going to be done (in NZ), it would have by now!
That is what I was saying!
Trust you have been putting the geo-engineering links to good use, I can’t be feeding it to you on a plate , continually Murray!
Norman is talking crap, because, even if he had the opportunity to influence/alter NZ Monetary Policy, he would do NO such thing! If it were going to be done (in NZ), it would have by now!
Why would it have been done any time in the last 20 years?
Murray, with respect, there is no need to entertain the notion of paying someone to do research on behalf, so I’ll take your comment as facetious.
Progression of understanding, should never stop, age nor health should interfere in life learning’s. If you’re well enough to post here, you’re well enough to do some reading.
Don’t let that PhD become a barrier to cogent awareness, which your automatic reaction, might be to see a subject matter, under a preconceived judgment set.
I am well enough to decide what I’ll do with my time. It won’t include taking suggestions from a conspiracy theorist who has mastered the correct usage of neither the comma nor the apostrophe. You’re coming across as a creepy bloody stalker. I don’t care what youtube videos you watch, how many copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion you have, or what you think is happening in the world. I have no interest in your suggestions for reading material, nor do I wish to suscribe to your hopeless nightmare of a world run by hidden dark forces about which we can do nothing. You’re welcome to it, but your philosophy is not one which changes the world in the slightest. It’s the philosophy of the helpless victim who can always find an excuse to do nothing, the paranoid sufferer who locks themselves in their room in the foetal position, hoping that the Illuminati will not enter.
Not interested, thanks. I’m interested in fighting back and changing things. We’re on opposite sides.
I am well enough to decide what I’ll do with my time. It won’t include taking suggestions from a conspiracy theorist who has mastered the correct usage of neither the comma nor the apostrophe.
Thanks for illustrating my assertion about preconception, Murray, well done! You realize that that your reference to grammatical correctness, is reserved for when someone has nothing else to offer, perhaps not!
You’re coming across as a creepy bloody stalker.
And yet, its you, who has been responding to my posts, Murray, not to mention, your request for links on the subject, which I provided (see reminder, a little down in my rebuttal)
I don’t care what youtube videos you watch, how many copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion you have, or what you think is happening in the world. I have no interest in your suggestions for reading material, nor do I wish to subscribe to your hopeless nightmare of a world run by hidden dark forces about which we can do nothing.
Never read the protocols, Murray, and nice attempted fob off, vis a vis, youtube. As you should appreciate, knowledge that can be gained from any medium, but again, its good of you to show what preconception bias, Murray.
Understanding on the other hand, requires emotional intelligence, which can’t learnt from a book, or a video, or anything other than life itself, most don’t learn to understand, ever!
You’re welcome to it, but your philosophy is not one which changes the world in the slightest. It’s the philosophy of the helpless victim who can always find an excuse to do nothing, the paranoid sufferer who locks themselves in their room in the foetal position, hoping that the Illuminati will not enter.
I’m up for joining dots, let’s see. Your position, is that geo-engineering, and the chem-trails discussion, are one and the same, and having conflated, decided there is nothing you can, or are prepared to invest in understanding it, even after you asked me for some links, to get you started a couple of weeks back, to you remember that, Murray?
Murray, what’s concerning, yet enlightening at the same time, is how you’ve taken the legitimate subject of geo-engineering, then twisted it inside your prejudice, and come up with the protocols of Zion, and the Illuminati, which is frankly a rather naked insight, to where your minds at. Suggest you leave the online psychological evaluations aside, they require understanding, among other traits, and you have no lucky strike of understanding what my *philosophy* is, not with the barriers/blockers, and outright confusion you have shared in the comments, I’m responding to here!
Not interested, thanks. I’m interested in fighting back and changing things. We’re on opposite sides.
With you there, Murray, not so opposite in fact, but we won’t find much inspiration or fight via this site, however you will find plenty who share your interest in grammatical pedantry, and childish, fob off insults, which is not really adding much in terms of fight , is it!
One of those godawful judges has just spoken harshly about the performance of a contestant. The young man shuffles off the stage for the obligatory post-humiliation interview…
Rejected contestant: It was so hard hearing that. It was just, uh… [starts to whimper] … yeah. Dominic Bowden:[softly, with Clintonian empathy] It’s okay to be speechless.
The X-Factor, TV3, Sunday 19 May 2013
Humbug Corner is dedicated to gathering, and highlighting, the most striking examples of faux solicitude, insincere apologies, and particularly stupid recycling of official canards.
It is produced by the Insincerity Project®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.
You darned kids gett offa my lawn! *impotently shakes fist*
The implication being, I take it, that if one is not impressed by this awful, awful show and its depressing parade of mediocrity, then one is not “down with the kids.”
Weird implication for Pop to make about such a flacid, pedestrian form of entertainment. But then I’m not totally convinced that Pop reads the comments he replies to.
No, but your constant complaining about it like, to paraphrase Leviticus, a dog returning to it’s own vomit, does mark you out as one of those cartoonish old farts with too much time on their hands and who likes easy targets to moan about.
“The Opposition leader Tony Abbott, who hasn’t made any mistakes over the past eighteen months…”
—-Phil Kafcaloudes, Radio NZ National Australian correspondent, 8:59 a.m., Friday 31 May 2013
See also….
No. 15: Donald Rumsfeld: “I did not lie… Colin Powell did not lie.”
No. 14: Colin Powell: “a post-9/11 nexus between Iraq and terrorist organizations…connections are now emerging…”
No.13: Barack Obama: “Simply put, these strikes have saved lives.” http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27052013/#comment-638881
No. 12: U.K. Ministry of Defence: “Protecting the Afghan civilian population is one of ISAF and the UK’s top priorities.”
No. 11: Brendan O’Connor: “Australia’s approach to refugees is compassionate and generous.”
No. 10: Boris Johnson: “Londoners have… the best police in the world to look after us and keep us safe.”
No. 9: NewstalkZB PR dept: “News you NEED! Fast, fair, accurate!”
No. 8: Simon Bridges: “I don’t mean to duck the question”
No. 7: Nigel Morrison: “Quite frankly, they’ve been VERY tough.”
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-15052013/#comment-633295
No. 6: NZ Herald PR dept: “Congratulations—you’re reading New Zealand’s best newspaper.”
No. 5: Rawdon Christie: “…a FORMIDABLE replacement, it seems, is Claudette Hauiti.” http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-13052013/#comment-632594
No. 4: Willie and J.T.: “The X-Factor. Nah, nah, there’s some GREAT talent there!”
No. 3: John Key: “Yeah we hold MPs to a higher standard.”
No. 2: Colin Craig: “Oh, I have a GREAT sense of humour.”
No. 1: Barack Obama: “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great champions of freedom and liberty.”
From the office of the Race Relations Commissioner:
Racism is OK as no long as no property gets damaged.
To get her to act against the Jim Crow humour of Nisbet. Susan Devoy says People will have to riot.
She should be charged with inciting.
Let hope it never comes to that.
I thought the whole point of having a Race Relations Commissioner was to prevent things getting to that stage.
Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy says cartoons printed in Fairfax Media newspapers in response to the Government’s food in schools plan were offensive, but not legally racist.
But when asked what the threshold for racism was, Dame Susan had to consult her advisor – eventually saying the cartoons would “have to incite riot”.
Going by this logic, there could be protests in every street of the country against her lack of action against racism. But unless, at least one of these protests degenerated into a riot, Susan Devoy will not act.
Susan Devoy has turned the whole concept of Race Relations Commissioner on its head.
“But unless, at least one of these protests degenerated into a riot, Susan Devoy will not act.”
I’m not sure what you expect Dame Susan of Squash to do exactly. The Race Relations Commissioner has no powers to do anything except tut tut and give the occasional moue of distaste. You should be moaning about the Human Rights Tribunal.
Heard a clip of Dunne last night on the radio, saying they’d had 60 brand new membership applications for United Future after news of their de-registration broke.
Yeah, almost worth while doing the dodgy name/address/age thing that the Nats did on the asset sale referendum. The embarrassment of being rejected again…
But remember, as Lyn frequently reminds me :- a vote for united future is a vote for Peter Dunne’s hairpiece…
That is one piece of bouf that simply won’t lie down
Susan Woods calls it again in one of those off the cuff comments
Today on Q+A the panel discussing the “Right’s” candidate in upcoming Auckland election needs to be a high profile figure, to which her contribution was if only Paul Holmes …
And of course that raises another issue.
The question of Shane Taurima being able to return to political broadcasting given that he has now attempted to become a Labour member of parliament.
It would seem that it is alright for the right to have their stooges in broadcasting, but the left not.
As in the case of the contemptibly hectoring bully-rightist Paul Henry. Who prior to his fabulously paid obscenity gigs on New Zealand television unsuccessfully stood for National in the Wairarapa electorate against Labour’s Georgina Beyer.
On a slightly tangential tack I still laugh when I recall the reported heads-in-hands despair at National Party headquarters when on the Thursday prior to the Saturday election Paullie came out with this howler – ” At least I’m a real man……! ”
And out of public discourse has vanished any attempt to understand how the wrecking ball of economic reform in New Zealand has sent chaotic repercussing waves of dysfunction out into the future through the inevitable cascade of individual, small but tragic events it has generated in the daily lives and experiences of so many New Zealanders over the past 30 years.
Instead, we hear expressions of magical thinking as a substitute for understanding. A seemingly endless stream of spittle-flecked talk of poor people’s poor ‘choices’, poor parenting and poor ‘attitude’ becomes the sickening bully pulpit pontification of workplace chattering and columnists’ commentary. Intellectual pap replaces analysis; an ignorant sledgehammer – oxymoronically called ‘common sense’ – is used, zombie-like, to batter those least able to defend themselves.
Listening to the cliched arguments about the poor and beneficiaries that seem to garner such popular support, it’s hard not to despair. How did hard-hearted cliche come to be so popular? How has this mythology about the causes of poverty arisen?
I’ve just finished ‘The ‘Chavs’ and ‘Deer Hunting with Jesus’, Puddleglum, and I’m looking forward to your book 🙂
justsaying Listening to the cliched arguments about the poor and beneficiaries that seem to garner such popular support, it’s hard not to despair. How did hard-hearted cliche come to be so popular? How has this mythology about the causes of poverty arisen?
It appears that the whole fabric of our understanding of our values, of NZs attitudes of goodwill to their countrymen and women and love of egalitarianism, along with our happy Maori and good interracial relationships, is a fog of camouflage that hid the fact that this was a minority belief. It’s heart rending to realise that many NZs particularly among st the older age group, don’t care to retain those values that we thought we held firmly.
Chicago Mayor has sold the rights to the city’s parking for 75 years for $1 billion lump payment. There is no free parking in weekends, problems about disabled, and threats of suing the Council for loss of potential profit if some parking meters not operating. The city is bound by the contract to pay up large amounts over the years to this parking owner.
What the hell. How can we let these temporary caretaker politicians destroy our living standards, rob us of our amenities for their own purposes. And you can bet there was something in it for the Mayor and his mates even if there was a few million sprinkled here and there on city projects.
Perhaps the piece below answers my question. Mayor Daley has got up daily without fear of much scrutiny or bad reaction by the public. I hate that saying that we get the outcomes that we deserve because of our laxness but it seems to apply. We shouldn’t have to be alert watchdogs preparing to have a bite worse than our bark but it seems if we aren’t we won’t have anything in our yard left to protect.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/features-cover-april-9-2009/Content?oid=1098561 The origins of the meter debacle actually date back to 2005, when Mayor Daley began selling off public property for up-front cash payments without much scrutiny from the City Council or the public. Then last year, when tax revenues plummeted, the mayor increased the pressure, directing his staff to be “creative” in attacking budget problems. But even as city officials celebrated privatization agreements for Midway Airport and the meters, both worth billions of dollars, they refused to release the most basic information about how they’d been reached
Witness the pressure raised on Christchurch to sell assets to part fund a re-built etc, and one example.
Councils around NZ are in debt, the country, is in debt – The books are closed, the assets already being positioned, and the trigger will be pulled by the ratings agencies!
Selling off public revenue streams to private interests. Sounds about right.
edit – interesting that Mayor Rahm Emanuel was Democratic President Obama’s Chief of Staff. To be honest, the “left wing” in the USA is more like ACT on steroids.
(Thought about putting this in the Lusk paper comments, but I can’t vouch for credibility only posting as something that may be interesting)
A red herring most likely, but reading Lusk’s paper made me recall a notice sent round the homeschooling loops a few years back (2009) – which I quickly deleted – we tend to get a lot of irrelevant messages.
So I googled and came up with this: Cult Education page from the US which looked familiar, and seems to be the one that I had received:
I’m writing to you today to notify you that a group of aberrant evangelical Protestant Christian Reconstructionists plans an exodus from the United States to New Zealand in 2010, establishing themselves through the unsuspecting homeschooling community in NZ. I’m not sure how many Vision Forum affiliated families plan on following the family of the US born and reported NZ immigrant Geoffrey Botkin next year.
Reading it now, it strikes me that over the last couple of years I can think of at least two families that have moved over from the states that are incredibly right-wing, fundamentalist in their thinking (and I don’t get around much in the religious group of homeschoolers) and have heard of others causing difficulties in other homeschooling support groups.
Geoff Botkin boasts plans to have his son, now in his 20s, elected as the Prime Minister of NZ when he his 57. To be honest, read that with the same degree of WTF that I read the rest.
In conjunction with this, I also recently complained to our National Council for allowing religious messages Creating a God-Centred family – workshop by to be sent via the secular NCHENZ message loop.
Decided to give the two seconds required to google the advertised speakers with Geoff Botkin mentioned above, and they seem to be well acquainted.
In summary:
– a message on the homeschool loops in 2009 which was tl;dr
– recalled that message after reading Lusks amateur leaked documents
– was able to google that message and read again, which now sounds more credible given some of the recent US families that have moved to NZ, and the workshops that have been offered by the christian support groups in the last couple of years
– found links between the person named in the original (2009) email and those currently doing the rounds within the christian homeschooling groups.
If any of the original email is true, then imagine if this group aligns with funding a hard-right wing conservative government. The families I have had direct contact with seemed to be middle class, but would also be quite likely to give a significant portion of their income to their church (which may end up including a political lobby group).
…as mentioned, only posting due to a series of “coincidental clicks”… but does make me wish that there was a group left-wing, secular homeschoolers planning to move here to even out the playing field.
Yes, was scared off a introductory visit to a homeschool support group many years ago when they trotted out an ACE curriculum (ie. left halfway through with another equally appalled attendee and went to coffee, made a good friend)
However, know a few moderate Christians that use the ACE curriculum, primarily because homeschoolers don’t have access to the Min of Ed resources or the NZ curriculum and ACE qualifications were accepted as Tertiary entry requirements.
There does however, seem to have been a recent increase in REALLY fundamental, hard-right conservatives.
So what are the Charter schools going to achieve Molly? Maybe those “aberrant evangelical Protestant Christian Reconstructionists” have an avenue for spreading the word.
Personally, I’m completely against charter schools – they seem to have a tendency to increase the inequality in education that already exists.
However, homeschoolers in the US have used them to access state funding and if the structure proposed here is the same, then you may have state funding being used to promote really radical ideas and religious beliefs… one of many reasons I’m really disappointed that this flawed idea is going ahead.
Geoff Botkin boasts plans to have his son, now in his 20s, elected as the Prime Minister of NZ when he is 57.
Ouch!
To be honest, read that with the same degree of WTF that I read the rest.
The wording was a bit confusing to me as well. Not knowing any particulars about this Geoff Botkin, I can’t quite figure out if Botkin is hoping his son becomes PM when Botkin is 57 or when his son turns 57.
Going by the above quote referencing his aspirations for his son, I have a hunch that Mr Botkin isn’t quite up to speed on how parliament works.
Yes, WTF is still my primary response re Geoff Botkin’s aspirations for his son, but I am also mindful that I have the same response when considering our current PM.
I work in an op shop and have been surprised at some of the religious centred literature that we have received from time to time – it seems to be sourced from USA. One book set out to educate about financial matters which fits into the ‘prosperity’ religion approach thatis quite strong there and is a perversion of real Christianity.
The prosperity church movement is attractive to many aspirational people, and a very good business proposition for the leaders as religious groups don’t have to pay tax,. Those at the top can accumulate assets quickly and use their example of receiving goodies to encourage followers who are told they will receive wealth if they act in line with God’s (the church’s) directions. Note Sanitarium and also note Destiny but also the plethora of churches apart from the traditional ones.
There is an odious movement in the USA that is built around male superiority and ultimate decision making. The women in it seem to glory in a sado-masochistic approach of apparent worship of their husbands and practising utter obedience to their every word.
In true Christianity this would be idolatory and worshipping a false god.
There is a movement here along similar lines… was tempted to join a discussion with some women at the pools, who were talking about books. After listening a while longer, I realised the book that had them all raving had an odious title along the lines of “Dominant Husband, Submissive Wife”. Not my idea of a good book club read.
Also along this theme, the last election prompted an unprecented wave of unsolicited emails through some homeschool loops asking everyone to support Colin Craig, by votes, volunteers and financial donations. Most loops are self-moderated and are usually just about events, activities and resources. Spent a lot of time sending out cease and desist emails at that time.
I am not into Twitter, but occasionally check out one or two.
Oh, look – Pete George is still around and now commenting on Judith Collins’ Twitter. This conversation mentions a number of authors/commenters on TS – eg Eddie, MS
Amusing. I really don’t know why they bother. But I guess that Pete George is just stroking Judith Collins now that his last party has kind of disintegrated. Must need a soapbox.
If the truth of anything were to be determined by “Pete George once alleged it and no one thought he was important enough to contradict”, oh what a world we would live in. Pete George probably wouldn’t be permitted internet access, for a start …
A Pure Wind blew into New Zealand this morning
Christopher Hill interviewed by Chris Laidlaw
Radio NZ National, Sunday 2 June 2013
Christopher Hill is the kind of smooth-talking reptile who is indispensable to aggressive regimes like the United States: he puts a pleasant face on what are all too often criminal and unspeakable policies. This morning, interviewed by a respectful Chris Laidlaw, the former U.S. ambassador and “troubleshooter” spoke in the same soothing, comforting tones throughout. He spoke of going out to dinner with Serbian, Chinese and North Korean negotiators; he was keen to remind us that they have their human side, even if they are always wary. Hill is the epitome of Beltway smoothness, the ultimate schmoozing government insider, the very embodiment of a velvet-voiced diplomat.
It’s all a front though. Underneath the calm voice, Christopher Hill is actually as hardline, and as doctrinaire as any frothing neocon.
Hill is infamous for calling the New Zealand Nuclear-Free legislation a “relic”, and “something we needed to get over.” Chris Laidlaw actually raised this subject with him but, disappointingly, did not challenge him. In the end, Laidlaw might as well have not even broached the subject; Hill used it as an opportunity to speak nonsensical fluff for several minutes, thereby killing off the original point. It’s the oldest political trick of them all, and Laidlaw should have been alert to it. Instead, he laughed along meekly; it was almost as abject a failure as Paul Holmes’ moronic 2005 “interview” with the British war criminal Alistair Campbell.
To make things worse, Hill spoke with apparent warmth and enthusiasm about the New Zealand Provincial Reconstruction Team and the “deeds they have done in Afghanistan.” Now, it is possible that Christopher Hill might be completely ignorant of the scandal and opprobrium that has swirled around the New Zealand PRT, including their possible involvement in the illegal capture, torture and summary execution of Afghani civilians and resistance fighters. Frankly, however, I think he would know all about this, and was simply spouting empty rhetoric.
Instead of challenging him, Laidlaw simply heaped on more praise of his guest, saying “Richard Holbrooke described you as brilliant, fearless and argumentative.”
Hill laughs engagingly at this. He says he does not care for “finger-wagging”. It’s just not his style. It was people like Christopher Hill that George Orwell had in mind when he wrote that political language is “designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ”
I think Chris Laidlaw was aware that he was being snowed by an expert, bullshitted by the biggest, smoothest bullshitter of them all. But it is no doubt difficult to get into a serious mode of questioning against such an ostensibly pleasant fellow as Christopher Hill. Still, here’s hoping that, one of these days, Christopher Hill will be grilled by somebody in the same way that Kim Hill grilled the former Australian prime minister John Howard.
In the meantime, though, a doleful, discombobulated Chris Laidlaw closed off this epic exercise in diplomatic deception in the following defeated fashion: “That was Christopher Hill, the non-finger-wagger. He’s the dean of the Josef Korbel School of International Studies in Denver, Colorado. Here’s Fleetwood Mac…”
Hmm, I have very small hands for a man – only 1 person I’ve found with smaller hands was a woman. My avg WPM is about 80-90 and top speed about 115. Not sure if the small hands help or hinder me.
For the record, it was an allusion to Lockwood Smith on the subject of immigrant labour. I manage about 125 wpm. If gender had anything to do with it, one must be typing with entirely the wrong appendage.
Underpaid and understaffed and run for profit, Public Private Partnerships in the health system.
While in the care of private health provider, Spectrum. An autistic boy, in what can only be a deliberate assault, has his testicles kicked in…..
He spends 10 days in hospital and has one testicle amputated. No one is charged, no one is held accountable.
Young male autistic boys often masturbate continuously and publicly, which undoubted, can be very trying and even upsetting for their carers. One of his care givers is guilty of this vicious assault.
None of the caregivers at the Spectrum care home have been stood down, and are all still in charge of handicapped young people. The Spectrum staff at this South Auckland community care home, could not have been unaware of the assault and probably also know the identity of the perpetrator, but have kept their silence.
In cases like this, where the victim cannot speak for themselves and the perpetrator remains unidentified. At the very least those responsible for his immediate care should all be suspended from their posts and made to do anger management courses at their employer’s expense.
This is the third case of abuse of intellectually handicapped people in community care homes in as many weeks.
We the public and the families of those being abused and the victims themselves deserve better.
No, nothing will happen, and the abuse will continue.
Serco who run our prisons in a similar ppp scheme. Have their funding cut every time a prisoner escapes, whatever the circumstances. Spectrum and the other ppp providers for the intellectually handicapped, should have their funding cut every time one of these assaults happens in their care homes.
Nothing will be done until services are brought back in house until then MOH and ministers will wipe their hands clean blame the contractor and it goes around and nothing happens. The state ducks out and contractor passes the buck, person with disability loses.
A disability services agency should be created we need move on from health & disability being one and the same thing because most people with disabilities including myself are not sick. Also most disability services have no medical aspect to them anyway. To run and/or manage them it’s the only serious way to even say you put the person with the disability first and who knows maybe more carers might treat their clients as human rather than “it” that I’ve heard come out of some people’s mouths.
The Greens’ policy on school nurses sounds very promising. It’s directly aimed at improving quality of life, is a fence at the top of the cliff rather than an ambulance at the bottom of it, and will ensure better educational outcomes through healthier kids. It would probably save money in the long run. I really can’t imagine how an adequate argument can be marshalled against it.
Not to mention the other direct funding of private schools through Aspire Scholarships – a policy introduced by ACT in 2009 and still on offer.
From recollection $5m a year….but I can’t seem to find it online. Am drawing on memory ofan educational lecture I attended with Roger Douglas and Heather Roy at MacLeans college a couple of years ago.
True, i have this to say about ‘parental responsibility’, taxation of WINZ benefits, directly cutting monies from WINZ benefits, disallowing WINZ beneficiaries with children to access working for Families payments,
Those are but 3 things that past Governments have achieved which directly ATTACK the ability of parents to carry out and achieve such ‘parental responsibility’,
i can add others as most readers here can as well, the 2008 tax switch and the move to further casualalise the workforce into part time employment being a couple more,
‘Parental responsibility’ and the ability to carry out such a function continually under attack by successive Governments simply reduces parental ability to perform such a function,
Yes to breakfast and lunch in schools, Yes to having health nurses and social workers attached to schools, and Yes to providing gumboots and coats in winter to any kid in school that shows up without one,
And when all is said and done it has to be YES to the provision of after-school meals and extra teachers to help with the kids that don’t get help with the home-work at home,
And when all is said and done it has to be YES to the provision of after-school meals and extra teachers to help with the kids that don’t get help with the home-work at home,
The parallels between the USA/western allies (who “won”) and the F-USSR (who “lost) are growing all the time.
On another note, a friend of mine remarked that it looks like the Russians have won the space race with the USA through sheer bloody minded endurance – they can still send men into orbit, the USA cannot.
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Some of our country’s most important work, stopping the sexual exploitation of children and violent extremism could go along with staff on the frontline at ports and airports. ...
The Government’s Fast Track Approvals Bill will give projects such as new coal mines a ‘get out of jail free’ card to wreak havoc on the environment, Labour Leader Chris Hipkins said today. ...
Cuts to frontline hospital staff are not only a broken election promise, it shows the reckless tax cuts have well and truly hit the frontline of the health system, says Labour Health spokesperson Ayesha Verrall. ...
The Green Party has joined the call for public submissions on the fast-track legislation to be extended after the Ombudsman forced the Government to release the list of organisations invited to apply just hours before submissions close. ...
New Zealand’s good work at reducing climate emissions for three years in a row will be undone by the National government’s lack of ambition and scrapping programmes that were making a difference, Labour Party climate spokesperson Megan Woods said today. ...
More essential jobs could be on the chopping block, this time Ministry of Education staff on the school lunches team are set to find out whether they're in line to lose their jobs. ...
The Government is trying to bring in a law that will allow Ministers to cut corners and kill off native species, Labour environment spokesperson Rachel Brooking said. ...
Cancelling urgently needed new Cook Strait ferries and hiking the cost of public transport for many Kiwis so that National can announce the prospect of another tunnel for Wellington is not making good choices, Labour Transport Spokesperson Tangi Utikere said. ...
A laundry list of additional costs for Tāmaki Makarau Auckland shows the Minister for the city is not delivering for the people who live there, says Labour Auckland Issues spokesperson Shanan Halbert. ...
The Green Party has today launched a step-by-step guide to help New Zealanders make their voice heard on the Government’s democracy dodging and anti-environment fast track legislation. ...
The National Government’s proposed changes to the Residential Tenancies Act will mean tenants can be turfed from their homes by landlords with little notice, Labour housing spokesperson Kieran McAnulty said. ...
Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson is calling on all parties to support a common-sense change that’s great for the planet and great for consumers after her member’s bill was drawn from the ballot today. ...
A significant milestone has been reached in the fight to strike an anti-Pasifika and unfair law from the country’s books after Teanau Tuiono’s members’ bill passed its first reading. ...
New Zealand has today missed the opportunity to uphold the right to a clean, healthy, and sustainable environment, says James Shaw after his member’s bill was voted down in its first reading. ...
Today’s advice from the Climate Change Commission paints a sobering reality of the challenge we face in combating climate change, especially in light of recent Government policy announcements. ...
Minister for Disability Issues Penny Simmonds appears to have delayed a report back to Cabinet on the progress New Zealand is making against international obligations for disabled New Zealanders. ...
The Government’s newly announced review of methane emissions reduction targets hints at its desire to delay Aotearoa New Zealand’s urgent transition to a climate safe future, the Green Party said. ...
The Government must commit to the Maitai School building project for students with high and complex needs, to ensure disabled students from the top of the South Island have somewhere to learn. ...
Mental Health Minister Matt Doocey and his Government colleagues have made a meal of their mental health commitments, showing how flimsy their efforts to champion the issue truly are, says Labour Mental Health spokesperson Ingrid Leary. ...
Energy Minister Simeon Brown has welcomed an important milestone in New Zealand’s hydrogen future, with the opening of the country’s first network of hydrogen refuelling stations in Wiri. “I want to congratulate the team at Hiringa Energy and its partners K one W one (K1W1), Mitsui & Co New Zealand ...
The coalition Government is delivering on its commitment to improve resource management laws and give greater certainty to consent applicants, with a Bill to amend the Resource Management Act (RMA) expected to be introduced to Parliament next month. RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop has today outlined the first RMA Amendment ...
Overseas models for regulating the oil and gas sector, including their decommissioning regimes, are being carefully scrutinised as a potential template for New Zealand’s own sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. The Coalition Government is focused on rebuilding investor confidence in New Zealand’s energy sector as it looks to strengthen ...
Emergency Management and Recovery Minister Mark Mitchell has today released the Report of the Government Inquiry into the response to the North Island Severe Weather Events. “The report shows that New Zealand’s emergency management system is not fit-for-purpose and there are some significant gaps we need to address,” Mr Mitchell ...
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith is today travelling to Europe where he’ll update the United Nations Human Rights Council on the Government’s work to restore law and order. “Attending the Universal Periodic Review in Geneva provides us with an opportunity to present New Zealand’s human rights progress, priorities, and challenges, while ...
Associate Agriculture Minister, Mark Patterson, formally reopened the world’s largest wool processing facility today in Awatoto, Napier, following a $50 million rebuild and refurbishment project. “The reopening of this facility will significantly lift the economic opportunities available to New Zealand’s wool sector, which already accounts for 20 per cent of ...
Hon Andrew Bayly, Minister for Small Business and Manufacturing At the Southland Otago Regional Engineering Collective (SOREC) Summit, 18 April, Dunedin Ngā mihi nui, Ko Andrew Bayly aho, Ko Whanganui aho Good Afternoon and thank you for inviting me to open your summit today. I am delighted ...
The Government is delivering on its commitment to bring back the Three Strikes legislation, Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee announced today. “Our Government is committed to restoring law and order and enforcing appropriate consequences on criminals. We are making it clear that repeat serious violent or sexual offending is not ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters has today announced four new diplomatic appointments for New Zealand’s overseas missions. “Our diplomats have a vital role in maintaining and protecting New Zealand’s interests around the world,” Mr Peters says. “I am pleased to announce the appointment of these senior diplomats from the ...
New Zealand is contributing NZ$7 million to support communities affected by severe food insecurity and other urgent humanitarian needs in Ethiopia and Somalia, Foreign Minister Rt Hon Winston Peters announced today. “Over 21 million people are in need of humanitarian assistance across Ethiopia, with a further 6.9 million people ...
Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage Paul Goldsmith is congratulating Mataaho Collective for winning the Golden Lion for best participant in the main exhibition at the Venice Biennale. "Congratulations to the Mataaho Collective for winning one of the world's most prestigious art prizes at the Venice Biennale. “It is good ...
The Government is reforming financial services to improve access to home loans and other lending, and strengthen customer protections, Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Andrew Bayly and Housing Minister Chris Bishop announced today. “Our coalition Government is committed to rebuilding the economy and making life simpler by cutting red tape. We are ...
“China remains a strong commercial opportunity for Kiwi exporters as Chinese businesses and consumers continue to value our high-quality safe produce,” Trade and Agriculture Minister Todd McClay says. Mr McClay has returned to New Zealand following visits to Beijing, Harbin and Shanghai where he met ministers, governors and mayors and engaged in trade and agricultural events with the New ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has completed a successful trip to Singapore, Thailand and the Philippines, deepening relationships and capitalising on opportunities. Mr Luxon was accompanied by a business delegation and says the choice of countries represents the priority the New Zealand Government places on South East Asia, and our relationships in ...
New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa. The summit is co-hosted ...
A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul. “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr. The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners. “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector. "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Dan Jerker B. Svantesson, Professor specialising in Internet law, Bond University Do Australian courts have the right to decide what foreign citizens, located overseas, view online on a foreign-owned platform? Anyone inclined to answer “yes” to this question should perhaps also ask ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Giovanni E Ferreira, NHMRC Emerging Leader Research Fellow, Institute of Musculoskeletal Health, University of Sydney Last week in a post on X, owner of the platform Elon Musk recommended people look into disc replacement if they’re experiencing severe neck or back pain. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By David Hayward, Emeritus Professor of Public Policy, RMIT University anek.soowannaphoom/Shutterstock NSW Treasurer Daniel Mookhey caught the headlines yesterday, courtesy of a blistering speech condemning the latest GST carve-up. New South Wales, he claimed, would be A$11.9 billion worse off over the ...
While police are "broadly in favour", the government's proposed anti-gang laws are facing pushback from lawyers, rights groups and former gang members. ...
While police are "broadly in favour", the government's proposed anti-gang laws are facing pushback from lawyers, rights groups and former gang members. ...
By Miriam Zarriga in Port Moresby Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has arrived at Kokoda Station, Northern province, at the start of his state visit to Papua New Guinea. Both Albanese and Prime Minister James Marape will meet with the locals and the Northern Provincial government before they begin their ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Chris Wallace, Professor, School of Politics Economics & Society, Faculty of Business Government & Law, University of Canberra Shutterstock An important principle was invoked by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese last week in defence of the government’s Future Made in Australia industry ...
By Patrick Decloitre, RNZ Pacific correspondent French Pacific desk Security forces reinforcements were sent from France ahead of two rival marches in the capital Nouméa today, at the same time and only two streets away one from the other. One march, called by Union Calédonienne party (a component of the ...
A poll last August found that just 16% of New Zealanders oppose bringing back the ‘Three Strikes’ law. The nationwide poll of 1,000 New Zealanders was commissioned by Family First NZ and carried out by Curia Market Research. ...
The solo show from Ana Scotney is both sprawling and intimate, and a must-see, writes Mad Chapman. In the opening moments of Scattergun: After the Death of Rūaumoko, writer and performer Ana Scotney lays out the groundwork, literally. Silently moving around the square stage, Scotney is not so much dancing ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Kate Burridge, Professor of Linguistics, Monash University Who makes the words? Why are trees called trees and why are shoes called shoes and who makes the names? – Elliot, age 5, Eltham, Victoria Good question Elliot! Let’s start with ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Stephen Duckett, Honorary Enterprise Professor, School of Population and Global Health, and Department of General Practice and Primary Care, The University of Melbourne at amRawpixel.com/Shutterstock Roles of health professionals are still unfortunately often stuck in the past. That is, before the ...
COMMENTARY:By Malcolm Evans Last week’s leaked New York Times staff directive, as to what words can and cannot be used to describe the carnage Israel is raining on Palestinians, is proof positive, since those reports are published verbatim here in New Zealand, that our understanding of the conflict is ...
In the case of New Zealand, the results confirm that there is no popular support for the vicious austerity program being imposed by the National Party-led government, which is backed in all fundamental respects by the opposition Labour Party. ...
The ‘Vampire’ singer has never visited our part of the world, but that might all be about to change. We assess the evidence.Olivia Rodrigo’s Guts World Tour is pulling in massive crowds as it whips around the US and Europe, even helping to catapult regular supporting act Chappell Roan ...
Testing of drinking water in rural Canterbury over the weekend by Greenpeace revealed that several public town supplies were reaching levels of nitrate above 5 mg/L - the threshold which a growing body of scientific evidence has linked to increased ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rohan Fisher, Information Technology for Development Researcher, Charles Darwin University It may come as a surprise to hear 2023 was Australia’s biggest bushfire season in more than a decade. Fires burned across an area eight times as big as the 2019–20 Black ...
Responding to the Government’s announcement of changes to resource management laws, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, said: “These changes are a step in the right direction in terms of removing ideological and unworkable ...
More than two years after the Human Rights Council called for the establishment of a national human rights commission, such a body has yet to be formed. ...
Comment:An emergency management system with wide variations in performance, significant capability gaps, funding shortfalls and above all a setup that is not meeting the needs of New Zealanders at times of crisis. The Government’s inquiry into the response to Cyclone Gabrielle and other severe weather events in the North ...
Welcome to the whirring wonders of one brain trying to align its actions with its beliefs within a system it thinks is evil. My brain has been spiralling in a woke conundrum ever since I found out a bookshop I’ve never been to was shutting down. Good Books, a bookshop ...
We repeat our call for criminal justice policy to be based on evidence, something the three strikes regime neglects to recognise – with no evidence that it either reduces crime or assists with rehabilitation. ...
By Koroi Hawkins, RNZ Pacific editor in Honiara With only four more seats in the 50-member Parliament yet to be officially declared, there is no outright winner in the Solomon Islands elections. As of Monday, the two largest blocs in the winner’s circle, independents and the incumbent Prime Minister Manasseh ...
Two/fiftyseven is a multi-purpose space hidden in the heart of Wellington that is paving a way for sustainable building and responsible landlording in Aotearoa and beyond.By 2060 the world is predicted to double its entire building stock, which equates to building an entire New York City every 34 days, ...
Popstars wasn’t just a reality television revolution, it was also a huge moment for Y2K fashion.It’s 25 years since girl group TrueBliss was formed on New Zealand national television, breaking new ground for both the reality television industry and the shiny clothing industry. With the first episode on NZ ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Christopher Pepping, Associate Professor in Clinical Psychology, Griffith University Marvin / Shutterstock Are all single people insecure? When we think about people who have been single for a long time, we may assume it’s because single people have insecurities that make ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By William Geary, Lecturer in Quantitative Ecology & Biodiversity Conservation, The University of Melbourne Trismegist san, Shutterstock Landscapes that have escaped fire for decades or centuries tend to harbour vital structures for wildlife, such as tree hollows and large logs. But these ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rebecca Gladstone-Gallagher, Lecturer in Marine Science, University of Auckland, Waipapa Taumata Rau Shutterstock/S Curtis Why are we crossing ecological boundaries that affect Earth’s fundamental life-supporting capacity? Is it because we don’t have enough information about how ecosystems respond to change? Or ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Matthew Crocker, PhD Student in Economics, Deakin University Here’s something for the board of the Reserve Bank of Australia to ponder as it meets next month to set interest rates. It has pushed up rates on 13 occasions since it began its ...
As part of our series exploring how New Zealanders live and our relationship with money, a charity director outlines how she’s saving for retirement and buying secondhand. Want to be part of The Cost of Being? Fill out the questionnaire here.Gender: Female Age: 45 Ethnicity: Pākehā Role: Charity director, mum of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sophie Yates, Research Fellow, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University Many Australians with disability feel on the edge of a precipice right now. Recommendations from the disability royal commission and the NDIS review were released late last year. Now a ...
It’s been called a failed experiment and a judicial straightjacket but the government says the revised three strikes law will be a more workable regime, writes Anna Rawhiti-Connell in this excerpt from The Bulletin, The Spinoff’s morning news round-up. To receive The Bulletin in full each weekday, sign up here. Three ...
New Zealand’s Palestinian community and Palestinian Youth Aotearoa are voicing alarm and disappointment with the lack of factual rigour present during the Israeli Ambassador’s appearance as a guest on TVNZ’s Q+A With Jack Tame Sunday (21/04). ...
Both ACT leader David Seymour, who played a key role in drawing up the assisted dying law, and hospice leaders say it's time the legislation was changed. ...
Public submissions on proposed gang control laws are being heard today. Rising gang membership has been cited as rationale for a crackdown – but what do we actually know about how many people belong to gangs in New Zealand?What’s all this then?A rise in the number of gang ...
Climate activists are setting their sights on an unpopular target, and hoping to bring lots of the public with them. It’s hard to miss the Majestic Princess: the enormous cruise ship, docked at Auckland’s Prince’s Wharf, looms over the nearby buildings. The ship, which can fit nearly 6,000 people, ...
Opinion: Making sure developers, local and central government, and landowners are all on the same page makes sense The post A new kind of city deal appeared first on Newsroom. ...
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The following korero between Ngāhuia te Awekōtuku, author of the newly published memoir Hine Toa, one of the year’s most important books, and Dale Husband from e-tangata, was first published in October. It traverses her involvement with the activist group Ngā Tamatoa at Auckland University in the early 1970s, her ...
In the 16 years since it was bought by the government for $690 million, KiwiRail has had several overhauls and turnaround plans worth billions of dollars. Its ambitions as a successful, profitable operator of tourism, freight and ferries have often been derailed by disasters from earthquakes to cyclones, mine explosions ...
Black Ferns trailblazer Kendra Cocksedge was on the verge of tears when her young protégé, Hannah King, unassumingly broke the news. Three-time Rugby World Cup winner Cocksedge and Lincoln agriculture student King meet every few weeks over a hot chocolate, in an enduring mentorship that’s spanned years. “Before we even ...
Opinion: We’ve kicked the tyres on the perception NZ’s economy is in a parlous state compared to Australia. We take a quick tour of relative trends in GDP, housing markets, labour markets, trade, the fiscal situation, and the outlooks for inflation and interest rates. We find the cyclical positions of ...
By Russell Palmer, RNZ News digital political journalist New Zealand’s Foreign Minister Winston Peters is putting off recognition of Palestine as a state, despite opposition Labour’s formal request that he make the move. Peters said diplomatic recognition of Palestine was a matter of “when not if”, but doing so now ...
The opposition has laid into the government's plan to reintroduce a "three strikes" regime, saying it's inequitable and there's very little evidence it works. ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Rob Nicholls, Senior research associate, University of Sydney Australia’s eSafety Commissioner has ordered social media platform “X” (formerly known as Twitter) to remove graphic videos of the stabbing of Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel in Sydney last week from the site. The incident ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By John Turnbull, Postdoctoral Research Associate, University of Sydney John Turnbull, CC BY-NC-ND In past bleaching events on the Great Barrier Reef, the southern region has sometimes been spared worst of the bleaching. Not this time. This year’s intense underwater heat has ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sarah Austin, Lecturer in Theatre, The University of Melbourne Darren Gill/Mackey, Darling & Collaborators The relationship between witchcraft and teenage girls has been the subject of many books, films and television shows. Over time, the traditional image of witch as crone ...
Analysis by Dr Bryce Edwards, Democracy Project (https://democracyproject.nz)Political scientist, Dr Bryce Edwards. Calling all journalists, academics, planners, lawyers, political activists, environmentalists, and other members of the public who believe that the relationships between vested interests and politicians need to be scrutinised. We need to work together to make sure ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Becky Freeman, Associate Professor, School of Public Health, University of Sydney Andres Siimon/Unsplash There are no silver bullets, magic tricks or secret hacks to solving complex public health problems. Taking on the global tobacco industry and reducing the devastating consequences of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Adam B. Watts, Research Associate in galaxy evolution, The University of Western Australia ESO/A. Watts et al., CC BY We breathe oxygen and nitrogen gas in our atmosphere every day, but did you know that these gases also float through space, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Suzanne Nielsen, Professor and Deputy Director, Monash Addiction Research Centre, Monash University Maxime Bhm/Unsplash A new group of drugs called nitazenes has been detected in Australia. They have been sold as heroin as well as other drugs like ketamine. Concerns ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Anne Twomey, Professor emerita, University of Sydney Image from Bradlow + Bock campaign Can the job of being a federal member of parliament be shared by two or more persons? Two prospective candidates for the inner-Melbourne federal seat of Higgins, Lucy ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Zoe Rathus, Senior Lecturer in Law, Griffith University Shutterstock In October 2023, the federal parliament passed major changes to how children’s cases are decided under the Family Law Act, which kick in next month. Among other things, they repeal a ...
By Salwa Amor in Istanbul Palestine solidarity activists are preparing a flotilla to deliver urgently needed humanitarian aid to Gaza, vowing to break Israel’s blockade of the Palestinian territory on board the Akdeniz, a seven-deck passenger ship. Currently docked in Istanbul, the ship will carry 800 people from more than ...
The Government is putting at risk the defences of our land and sea borders against organised crime, and our online defences against child exploitation, terrorism and online crime with cuts to critical frontline roles at Customs and Internal Affairs. ...
We round up everything coming to streaming services this week, including Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+, Apple TV+, ThreeNow, Neon and TVNZ+. If you love a good cry: All of Us Strangers (Disney+)It’s the dreamlike, emotional film that had viewers running from the cinema in floods of tears, and ...
Tory immunity to facts will not make them disappear.
“They come from Oxfam, Unicef, Rights Advice Scotland, the British Medical Association, the Welfare Reform Committee of the Holyrood Parliament and many more besides. They have two things in common.
First, they demonstrate, time and again, that the destruction of social security provision in Britain is having a cataclysmic effect, hitting the poorest communities first and vulnerable people hardest. There are statistics, tables and charts enough to satisfy any sceptic’s demand for evidence.
Second, each of these documents is born of a strange, indignant naivety. The writers and researchers cling to the belief that if only Government could be made to address mountains of evidence, understanding would dawn. Facts, datasets, unimpeachable methodology, objective truths: who could ignore reports from reality?”
Read the rest of this article by Ian Bell in the Herald Scotland. It could just as well have been written for a New Zealand context.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/columnists/tory-immunity-to-facts-will-not-make-them-disappear.21231167
There are genuine heroes in this country and I rate John Minto at the very top of that list
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/06/02/ive-had-a-gutsful-of-low-life-bludgers/
He just hits the nails on the head every single time. Kia kaha John and the Mana Movement.
John Minto is a genuine Kiwi hero.
+1
John Minto giving a perfect description of National’s Simon Lusk perhaps ???, mind you Slippery the PM appears to fit well within Minto’s short analysis of the speculative capitalists…
Huh?
“Conservation spokeswoman Eugenie Sage and climate change spokesman Kennedy Graham were both considered “safe” Green MPs, but some within Labour doubted whether they had the profile to be Cabinet Ministers.” [http://www.nzherald.co./nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10887884]
Some within Labour doubted??
Come on, let’s be brutally honest – both Kennedy Graham and Eugenie Sage would easily and undoubtedly clear the line for Cabinet Minister if the benchmark is Shearer has the profile to be PM.
Likely scared.
The competence level of Green mp’s is on average far above all the other parties. Which makes sense, only the top 14 are in parliament.
If you are making a list of people ready for a cabinet, Julie Anne Genter would be my first pick after Dr Norman.
Bloody foreigners coming over here and taking our jobs. /shakes fist
John Key.
“..he’s not smiling because he likes you..”
Words to live by.
Someone make a meme!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10887884
And Granny comes to National and Key’s rescue again classing what Norman said as personality politics rather than the as the bold statement of facts that they are. IIRC, they certainly didn’t class Key’s attack (devil beast) as personality politics (otherwise known as ad hominem) but that’s exactly what they were.
Wow, just watched the Q&A interview of Metiria Turei, she is outstanding. What a great team Turei and Norman.
The Green Party is on a roll, they are the best thing that has happened in New Zealand politics in a long time. Their timing in attacking National is perfect, people are sick of what National are doing and the MSM are providing them with a free reign. The Greens are showing that they are tough, ruthless and strongly principled.
I’m picking 18% to 20% in 2014, some coming from female voters who voted National in 2011, but most coming from traditional Labour voters.
Really loving the way they are handling themselves and the media. Marama Davidson running in Ikaroa-Rāwhiti for the Greens – it’s a great line up going into 2014.
Agreed Saarbo. Metiria is outstanding. She is warm, speaks with clarity and shows empathy, commonsense, strength, and vision.
This long time Labour member has made the switch.
May not have if David Cunliffe had become the Labour leader after the last election. But we were never given the chance to see what a difference he could have made (similar qualities to those of Metiria.) My guess is he would have been on fire against this despicable government from the get go…and inspired a whole nation in the process. The political landscape would now be a lot different.
But it didn’t happen…and to boot he was sent to Coventry.
Labour’s loss – Green’s gain.
Go Russell and Metiria. I can’t wait to see you and your principled team part of the next government.
Indeed, i met Metiria and Her Sis a lifetime ago and way back then just ‘knew’ that one or the other, (or both), were going places,
Not places dictated by naked ambition but places dictated by the need to make the necessary changes no matter what it cost or how long it took,
A heart of gold and a backbone of steel, i near fell off my seat laughing when prior to the 2011 election Metiria took apart the Education Minister with a 30 second burst in a RadioNZ National debate that would have stripped paint and certainly shut the babbling mouth of Ann Tolley who sat through the remainder of the discussion in what i can only infer was shocked silence…
I agree with everything you have said. I also switched when we were shat upon by the dinosaurs in charge of the Labour party.
Maybe 14-17% at the outside, I think.
I think your est. is about right, Lanth.
There are huge downsides for the Greens if they were to hit 20% – growing unsustainably fast has many dangers for a political party which needs to continue to develop it’s own institutional structures and processes.
Gaining another 4-5 MPs however is probably exactly what the Greens need to keep on track (to become NZ’s dominant left wing party).
I think once the Greens get into government, they’ll either surge ahead in popularity, or drop back, but they won’t stay at their mid-teens level once they get a chance to show their mettle.
I’m picking surge ahead, taken mainly from Labour but also a bit from National. 2017 could end up seeing them as almost-equals with Labour.
I think political parties tend to lose popularity — whether slowly or quickly — once in power, when the compromises of wielding power are laid bare and grand plans suffer when they come into contact with the civil service, the media, the judiciary and other institutions, let alone the public.
Campaigning is far easier than governing.
Bit of a rock and hard place for people, I guess.
So desperate for signs of positivity, that the manufactured rise of the Greens is being cheered on.
People need to be weary of anything/anyone, coming from inside the existing system, these are not organic creations.
Perhaps read some policy, then look at what political parties do to those policies, once they are part of a government. Lies, lies and more lies, followed by *new polciy*, which not not part of any manefesto, pre elections.
People on this site need to understand more about economics/finance reality, before backing any party, understand the reality. Yes Norman has referenced *printing money*, but he is talking crap, it will not be done, or it would have by now.
Should The Greens form a government, they will be bound by the same constraints as any other part, beholden to the global institutions, thats assuming Norman is not the Green equivalent of David Shearer, which IMO, he is!
Someone argue otherwise, please go ahead and give it a crack!
Norman is nothing like Shearer.
Norman has an elegance about him, Shearer comes across awkward
Norman articulates his argument, Shearer is inconsistent
Norman’s identity alines closely with his party val. Shearer at times does the opposite (esp. welfare)
As for the rest of your argument I’d be surprised if you voted at all given your underlying belief that the system we have is inherently flawed.
Shearer is in place for a reason, Norman, is also there for a reason…
Neither of them, to benefit NZ or its people!
Do you believe that having a vote, has made any meaningful change, under the neoliberal agenda of the past 40+ years?
Do you believe that a party inside the current parliamentary system, is going to defend NZ against the owners of the neoliberal agenda?
“…the owners of the neoliberal agenda?”
I was thinking of buying Coca Cola shares, but this neoliberal agenda sounds even better. Do they have a prospectus?
Greens/Labour and Norman/Shearer strike me as very unlike each other. It was well summarized above that Norman has an argument and articulates it. Shearer doesn’t and doesn’t. You could extrapolate from that to their respective parties and not be too far off base.
There is a lot of hand-wringing about what Labour has to do to explain what they stand for, but it seems like the best first step would be to, you know, stand for something.
“Do you believe that a party inside the current parliamentary system, is going to defend NZ against the owners of the neoliberal agenda?”
Yes. I trust Norman, Turei and the GP to do this to the best of their ability within the constraints of the system.
I don’t expect miracles though. I’m not sure what you are doing running this line that no party can do anything good. The GP aren’t responsible for overthrowing neoliberalism, but they can definitely hold the line for a while. At the very least they will be a positive force in some areas instead of the overwhelmingly negative force of Key Inc.
“Do you believe that having a vote, has made any meaningful change, under the neoliberal agenda of the past 40+ years?”
Yes. We got MMP. We were better off having the Clark govt than another 2 terms of the 90s Nats.
“Norman has an elegance about him…”
Hmmmm. Let me refresh your memory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmzxRmfTaz0
Just the rashness of younger days my man
Did he get his flag back in the end?
Hmmmm. Let me refresh your memory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmzxRmfTaz0
That’s interesting. A New Zealand politician actually has the integrity and the courage to protest against our government cozying up to a brutal regime, and is attacked by foreign goons ON THE GROUNDS OF OUR PARLIAMENT—and your reaction is to pour scorn on him.
I am not surprised, not in the slightest. That you side with the Chinese regime even as its thugs attack a New Zealand MP in the grounds of the New Zealand parliament is exactly what I would have predicted.
I just never thought you would be so foolish as to openly publish it.
How is that siding with the “Chinese regime”, fool?
More to the point, how can a Member of the New Zealand Parliament be so lacking in gravitas and standing as to make a mockery of our sovereignty by getting himself manhandled by a foreign dignitary’s security detail?
Interesting how you blame our own elected NZ MP, and not the Chinese security officers.
How is that siding with the “Chinese regime”, fool?
Even considering the fact you are not serious, that is a particularly crass reply.
….how can a Member of the New Zealand Parliament be so lacking in gravitas and standing as to make a mockery of our sovereignty by getting himself manhandled by a foreign dignitary’s security detail?
You have no idea about, and no respect for, the concept of democracy. No wonder you scorn protestors and, yes, side with the Chinese regime.
By the way, THIS is a New Zealand MP who lacks in gravitas and standing….
http://i.imgur.com/ikn1E.jpg
Interesting!!!, in 2009 the IMF in it’s interim report to the incoming National Government made a point, (at paragraph 15 if my memory serves me right), that the incoming government should seriously consider quantitative easing, *printing money*, as opposed to borrowing the 80 billion dollars it has up to this point accumulated as the actual cost to New Zealand of this particular regime,
Interim reports from the IMF are of course referred to Governments for comment and a negotiation of what is compiles as the final report then takes place, the final report issued early in 2009 made no mention of *printing money* and it is obvious that the present Government had this section edited from the interim report in it’s negotiations with the IMF over what the final IMF report to the incoming Government would recommend,
That interim IMF report to the incoming National Government disappeared soon after i began highlighting it’s contents on another website and my mistake was to not access a printer and make a hard copy of it,
Obviously the actions of this National Government in the past two terms have negated the advice from the IMF that the Government print the monies necessary to cover it’s ”losses” as a result of the Global Financial Crisis instead opting for that 80 billion dollars of debt,
Given the above it would seem that Dr Norman was at the time calling for the printing of money by the Government from a point of the current financial orthodoxy and it is not Dr Norman proposing some form of ‘voodoo economics’ but yourself, Bill English and John Key who have their heads buried in the sand or in the s**t in the case of the latter two…
I’m well aware of the IMF reports which come out including the one you mention, and being in opposition, as I noted yesterday in a comment, is a very easy place to make loud noises from (unless you’re David Shearer).
IMF, WB UNESCO et al, the globalist enterprises, pump out these papers/reports on a regular basis, and they are not worth the paper they are printed on!
Who do you believe the IMF to be, some altuistic establishment?
Why is the RBNZ Govenor, ex long time World Bank MD, who is named in corruption goings on by Karen Hudes?
Conditionalities Policies – Since 1961
Who i believe the IMF to be is irrelevant to this discussion, i am simply pointing out to you that ‘crap’ as you ascribe to Dr Norman was at the time the Dr was calling for the Government to *print money* instead of borrowing it the prevailing financial orthodoxy,
Your insinuation that the Green Party is some form of ‘plant’ in a conspiracy is what i consider to be the only ‘crap’ being spread here,
Your petty allegations are laughable and ill considered and the sum total of your beliefs seems to encompass a ‘they are all corrupt don’t vote for any of them’ underlying motive…
My contention was, as per the example I gave from a post yesterday, is that its very easy to make the right noises, when you’re not even an official govt opposition..
Russel has nothing to lose by repeating the *money printing* diatribe, which would be a far cry from what he would do, should he get near enough to the treasury strings to enact such a policy. To believe Norman would enact such a policy, of his own accord, is simply utter crap, he will do, only what he is told, within the narrow parameters that those who dictate to NZ, will allow!
Tell me all about Russel Norman then, tell me why I should believe his alleged back story, anymore than I believe Shearers , makes him anything other an a plant, put in place to do/say nothing *controversial*, let alone attack the governments continued failures.
Instead there is Norman, as a pseudo opposition leader and *spokesman*, how very convenient!
Yawn you start today’s diatribe with a wish that readers and commentors here at the Standard had some understanding of fiscal matters and it would seem vis a vis the ‘crap’ comment you point in Dr Norman’s direction you in particular target the Green party,
When i point out to you that Norman was in tune with what all the major economy’s, (except the Chinese who have plenty of the filthy lucre and therefor have no need), along with the IMF advice in His comments over ‘quantitative easing’ you retreat to making a series of baseless, unfounded allegations about the Co-Leader of the Green Party,
i don’t propose to tell you shit about Dr Norman and if you have any specific allegation to make about Him i suggest you do so providing a modicum of proof otherwise you run the risk in spreading such baseless allegations of looking as if you are simply shit-stirring in an effort to cover up your lite-weight knowledge of the economic situation,
i will tho point out that Dr Norman when He proposes the printing of money is diametrically in opposition to not only National but Labour as well who have no such fiscal policy instead adhering to the ‘borrowing option’,
If what i see occurring after November 2014, or November 2017 is to become in fact the reality with the Government’s fiscal position then i believe at that point Labour may have to reconsider it’s fiscal policy…
Uh, the Chinese banks are likely sitting on a sky high mountain of bad debts and bad mortgages.
Once you take into account the massive amount of NPLs and the need to recapitalise the Chinese banks…I think you’ll find that China has fuck all money left over. And I think that the Chinese leadership know it, but are keeping a very straight poker face.
CV, you may or may not be right in your analysis of the unstated Chinese fiscal position but from an orthodox position it is what the figures say it is,
Perhaps i should have alluded to such in my comment but giving the persona i am at present debating with chances at diverting from the central issue of debate would simply have him/her play tic tac toe with me changing the subject materially with every comment…
Ah yes sorry for the derail. In that case, as you were.
What are you yawning at? And yes many here do not even understand basic financial/economic concepts, which leads to most threads being little more than a running commentary of the decline in, NZ inc!
Retreat – Nah, you’re pretending you knew what my original comments position was, you interpreted it incorrectly, I explained again, you don’t accept it, too bad12!
The below is something for you to look further at:
Bit defensive, yet attacking all in the same space, B12 – What’s the reason for that bro?
The only thing i can say about your latest attempt = are you pissed or somehow suffering under an altered mental state,
As debate that scores a zero on my register and is hardly worth answering, you make allegations about Dr Norman in particular, when called upon to provide facts you provide nothing,
Your latest little attempt at side-tracking the debate away from the unfounded accusations you make against Dr Norman simply moves you further into the realm of ‘tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist’,
And what you trot out as something ‘i should take a look at’ is simply laughable, Crown when such language is used in official speak is simply the NZ Government and your alluding to this particular passage from an act shows your abject lack of intellect,
It is Governments who appoint the Governor of the Reserve Bank and if any future Government had no faith in a particular governor to carry out that Governments fiscal policies i am sure they would force His/Her resignation,
As far as the Reserve Bank legislation removing from a Government the ability to ‘print money’ aaah derrrr any Government can choose to change any legislation any time it so wishes….
Dr Norman, lol, wait on, can you get his balls in your mouth too…
You got all heated up, over my saying, IMO, Norman, is talking crap, while in a position of ZERO influence!
Go read up on the Reserve Bank Act (RBNZ/OoDM), and *The Crown*, then you might have something to contribute to a conversation around such subject matter.
“Yes Norman has referenced *printing money*, but he is talking crap, it will not be done, or it would have by now.”
Are you saying that QE isn’t in use anywhere on the planet?
It’s weird how the RWNJs ignore the massive increases in global M1, M2 and M3. Where do they think that money is coming from, if not printed ex nihilo?
No Murray, that’s not what I’m saying!
Norman is talking crap, because, even if he had the opportunity to influence/alter NZ Monetary Policy, he would do NO such thing! If it were going to be done (in NZ), it would have by now!
That is what I was saying!
Trust you have been putting the geo-engineering links to good use, I can’t be feeding it to you on a plate , continually Murray!
Hope you’re well!
Why would it have been done any time in the last 20 years?
Nah, present time..
Its (printing) been done by NZ before, from memory but only on a relatively small scale, and not as part of strategic response to the *GFC*, as such.
Edit: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/8735081/RBNZ-hints-at-more-intervention
The best use for those links was to close them and forget about them. I already replied to you about them.
Didn’t see the reply, I don’t care to receive response notifications, so if I don;t catch the response, then its unlikely I ever will.
Why would you forget about geo-engineering Murray?
As a PhD, I would have thought you might want to investigate, what gives?
If you want me to investigate something for you, it’s $300/hr. Otherwise, get your own PhD and go for it.
Murray, with respect, there is no need to entertain the notion of paying someone to do research on behalf, so I’ll take your comment as facetious.
Progression of understanding, should never stop, age nor health should interfere in life learning’s. If you’re well enough to post here, you’re well enough to do some reading.
Don’t let that PhD become a barrier to cogent awareness, which your automatic reaction, might be to see a subject matter, under a preconceived judgment set.
Go well…
I am well enough to decide what I’ll do with my time. It won’t include taking suggestions from a conspiracy theorist who has mastered the correct usage of neither the comma nor the apostrophe. You’re coming across as a creepy bloody stalker. I don’t care what youtube videos you watch, how many copies of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion you have, or what you think is happening in the world. I have no interest in your suggestions for reading material, nor do I wish to suscribe to your hopeless nightmare of a world run by hidden dark forces about which we can do nothing. You’re welcome to it, but your philosophy is not one which changes the world in the slightest. It’s the philosophy of the helpless victim who can always find an excuse to do nothing, the paranoid sufferer who locks themselves in their room in the foetal position, hoping that the Illuminati will not enter.
Not interested, thanks. I’m interested in fighting back and changing things. We’re on opposite sides.
Thanks for illustrating my assertion about preconception, Murray, well done! You realize that that your reference to grammatical correctness, is reserved for when someone has nothing else to offer, perhaps not!
And yet, its you, who has been responding to my posts, Murray, not to mention, your request for links on the subject, which I provided (see reminder, a little down in my rebuttal)
Never read the protocols, Murray, and nice attempted fob off, vis a vis, youtube. As you should appreciate, knowledge that can be gained from any medium, but again, its good of you to show what preconception bias, Murray.
Understanding on the other hand, requires emotional intelligence, which can’t learnt from a book, or a video, or anything other than life itself, most don’t learn to understand, ever!
I’m up for joining dots, let’s see. Your position, is that geo-engineering, and the chem-trails discussion, are one and the same, and having conflated, decided there is nothing you can, or are prepared to invest in understanding it, even after you asked me for some links, to get you started a couple of weeks back, to you remember that, Murray?
Murray, what’s concerning, yet enlightening at the same time, is how you’ve taken the legitimate subject of geo-engineering, then twisted it inside your prejudice, and come up with the protocols of Zion, and the Illuminati, which is frankly a rather naked insight, to where your minds at. Suggest you leave the online psychological evaluations aside, they require understanding, among other traits, and you have no lucky strike of understanding what my *philosophy* is, not with the barriers/blockers, and outright confusion you have shared in the comments, I’m responding to here!
With you there, Murray, not so opposite in fact, but we won’t find much inspiration or fight via this site, however you will find plenty who share your interest in grammatical pedantry, and childish, fob off insults, which is not really adding much in terms of fight , is it!
All the best…
Humbug Corner
No. 1: DOMINIC BOWDEN
One of those godawful judges has just spoken harshly about the performance of a contestant. The young man shuffles off the stage for the obligatory post-humiliation interview…
Rejected contestant: It was so hard hearing that. It was just, uh… [starts to whimper] … yeah.
Dominic Bowden: [softly, with Clintonian empathy] It’s okay to be speechless.
The X-Factor, TV3, Sunday 19 May 2013
Humbug Corner is dedicated to gathering, and highlighting, the most striking examples of faux solicitude, insincere apologies, and particularly stupid recycling of official canards.
It is produced by the Insincerity Project®, a division of Daisycutter Sports Inc.
You darned kids gett offa my lawn! *impotently shakes fist*
You darned kids gett offa my lawn! *impotently shakes fist*
The implication being, I take it, that if one is not impressed by this awful, awful show and its depressing parade of mediocrity, then one is not “down with the kids.”
That’s a bit depressing.
NOTE TO SELF:
Need to get hip somehow, and fast…
Weird implication for Pop to make about such a flacid, pedestrian form of entertainment. But then I’m not totally convinced that Pop reads the comments he replies to.
felix in the house!
High five, brother!
Good day kind sir.
No, but your constant complaining about it like, to paraphrase Leviticus, a dog returning to it’s own vomit, does mark you out as one of those cartoonish old farts with too much time on their hands and who likes easy targets to moan about.
lol @ dog vomit reference. But Moz has to keep returning. He sniffs the vomit so you don’t have to 😉
that is funny felix. still “there is something rotten in the beehive”.
LIARS OF OUR TIME
No. 16: Phil Kafcaloudes
“The Opposition leader Tony Abbott, who hasn’t made any mistakes over the past eighteen months…”
—-Phil Kafcaloudes, Radio NZ National Australian correspondent, 8:59 a.m., Friday 31 May 2013
See also….
No. 15: Donald Rumsfeld: “I did not lie… Colin Powell did not lie.”
No. 14: Colin Powell: “a post-9/11 nexus between Iraq and terrorist organizations…connections are now emerging…”
No.13: Barack Obama: “Simply put, these strikes have saved lives.”
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-27052013/#comment-638881
No. 12: U.K. Ministry of Defence: “Protecting the Afghan civilian population is one of ISAF and the UK’s top priorities.”
No. 11: Brendan O’Connor: “Australia’s approach to refugees is compassionate and generous.”
No. 10: Boris Johnson: “Londoners have… the best police in the world to look after us and keep us safe.”
No. 9: NewstalkZB PR dept: “News you NEED! Fast, fair, accurate!”
No. 8: Simon Bridges: “I don’t mean to duck the question”
No. 7: Nigel Morrison: “Quite frankly, they’ve been VERY tough.”
http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-15052013/#comment-633295
No. 6: NZ Herald PR dept: “Congratulations—you’re reading New Zealand’s best newspaper.”
No. 5: Rawdon Christie: “…a FORMIDABLE replacement, it seems, is Claudette Hauiti.” http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-13052013/#comment-632594
No. 4: Willie and J.T.: “The X-Factor. Nah, nah, there’s some GREAT talent there!”
No. 3: John Key: “Yeah we hold MPs to a higher standard.”
No. 2: Colin Craig: “Oh, I have a GREAT sense of humour.”
No. 1: Barack Obama: “Margaret Thatcher was one of the great champions of freedom and liberty.”
This week’s KAL’s cartoon http://t.co/bMa9AbwDps
I guess it is part of the necessary training for leaders to practise keeping a straight face or at least smile at hypocrisy.
From the office of the Race Relations Commissioner:
Racism is OK as no long as no property gets damaged.
To get her to act against the Jim Crow humour of Nisbet. Susan Devoy says People will have to riot.
She should be charged with inciting.
Let hope it never comes to that.
I thought the whole point of having a Race Relations Commissioner was to prevent things getting to that stage.
Going by this logic, there could be protests in every street of the country against her lack of action against racism. But unless, at least one of these protests degenerated into a riot, Susan Devoy will not act.
Susan Devoy has turned the whole concept of Race Relations Commissioner on its head.
“But unless, at least one of these protests degenerated into a riot, Susan Devoy will not act.”
I’m not sure what you expect Dame Susan of Squash to do exactly. The Race Relations Commissioner has no powers to do anything except tut tut and give the occasional moue of distaste. You should be moaning about the Human Rights Tribunal.
Sort of, yeah – that’s the job. And she won’t do it.
Heard a clip of Dunne last night on the radio, saying they’d had 60 brand new membership applications for United Future after news of their de-registration broke.
Sounds like they won’t be de-registered for long.
… probably Nats in Ohariu.
So that would bring them up to 62 once you count in Pete George and Peter Dunne?
Yeah, almost worth while doing the dodgy name/address/age thing that the Nats did on the asset sale referendum. The embarrassment of being rejected again…
But remember, as Lyn frequently reminds me :- a vote for united future is a vote for Peter Dunne’s hairpiece…
That is one piece of bouf that simply won’t lie down
Susan Woods calls it again in one of those off the cuff comments
Today on Q+A the panel discussing the “Right’s” candidate in upcoming Auckland election needs to be a high profile figure, to which her contribution was if only Paul Holmes …
And of course that raises another issue.
The question of Shane Taurima being able to return to political broadcasting given that he has now attempted to become a Labour member of parliament.
It would seem that it is alright for the right to have their stooges in broadcasting, but the left not.
As in the case of the contemptibly hectoring bully-rightist Paul Henry. Who prior to his fabulously paid obscenity gigs on New Zealand television unsuccessfully stood for National in the Wairarapa electorate against Labour’s Georgina Beyer.
On a slightly tangential tack I still laugh when I recall the reported heads-in-hands despair at National Party headquarters when on the Thursday prior to the Saturday election Paullie came out with this howler – ” At least I’m a real man……! ”
Such licence so deceptively deployed Paullie !
Paul Henry – just like a real man, but smaller. In mind, heart, body, and soul.
http://www.thepoliticalscientist.org/?p=1325#more-1325
Puddleglum on poverty. Highly recommended.
I’ve just finished ‘The ‘Chavs’ and ‘Deer Hunting with Jesus’, Puddleglum, and I’m looking forward to your book 🙂
justsaying
Listening to the cliched arguments about the poor and beneficiaries that seem to garner such popular support, it’s hard not to despair. How did hard-hearted cliche come to be so popular? How has this mythology about the causes of poverty arisen?
It appears that the whole fabric of our understanding of our values, of NZs attitudes of goodwill to their countrymen and women and love of egalitarianism, along with our happy Maori and good interracial relationships, is a fog of camouflage that hid the fact that this was a minority belief. It’s heart rending to realise that many NZs particularly among st the older age group, don’t care to retain those values that we thought we held firmly.
Puddleglum is deep.
Chicago Mayor has sold the rights to the city’s parking for 75 years for $1 billion lump payment. There is no free parking in weekends, problems about disabled, and threats of suing the Council for loss of potential profit if some parking meters not operating. The city is bound by the contract to pay up large amounts over the years to this parking owner.
What the hell. How can we let these temporary caretaker politicians destroy our living standards, rob us of our amenities for their own purposes. And you can bet there was something in it for the Mayor and his mates even if there was a few million sprinkled here and there on city projects.
Perhaps the piece below answers my question. Mayor Daley has got up daily without fear of much scrutiny or bad reaction by the public. I hate that saying that we get the outcomes that we deserve because of our laxness but it seems to apply. We shouldn’t have to be alert watchdogs preparing to have a bite worse than our bark but it seems if we aren’t we won’t have anything in our yard left to protect.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/features-cover-april-9-2009/Content?oid=1098561
The origins of the meter debacle actually date back to 2005, when Mayor Daley began selling off public property for up-front cash payments without much scrutiny from the City Council or the public. Then last year, when tax revenues plummeted, the mayor increased the pressure, directing his staff to be “creative” in attacking budget problems. But even as city officials celebrated privatization agreements for Midway Airport and the meters, both worth billions of dollars, they refused to release the most basic information about how they’d been reached
Thanks for the link – it’s a shocker and a must read for anyone who is concerned about sale of public assets, or is a current supporter of such.
Good link Prism, thanks.
Witness the pressure raised on Christchurch to sell assets to part fund a re-built etc, and one example.
Councils around NZ are in debt, the country, is in debt – The books are closed, the assets already being positioned, and the trigger will be pulled by the ratings agencies!
Wrong. That’s exactly what we should be doing everyday and we need to be willing and able to remove the politicians that do make us worse off.
Selling off public revenue streams to private interests. Sounds about right.
edit – interesting that Mayor Rahm Emanuel was Democratic President Obama’s Chief of Staff. To be honest, the “left wing” in the USA is more like ACT on steroids.
The Obama administration has floated the possible sale of the Tennessee Valley Authority in its 2013/14 budget.
(Thought about putting this in the Lusk paper comments, but I can’t vouch for credibility only posting as something that may be interesting)
A red herring most likely, but reading Lusk’s paper made me recall a notice sent round the homeschooling loops a few years back (2009) – which I quickly deleted – we tend to get a lot of irrelevant messages.
So I googled and came up with this: Cult Education page from the US which looked familiar, and seems to be the one that I had received:
I’m writing to you today to notify you that a group of aberrant evangelical Protestant Christian Reconstructionists plans an exodus from the United States to New Zealand in 2010, establishing themselves through the unsuspecting homeschooling community in NZ. I’m not sure how many Vision Forum affiliated families plan on following the family of the US born and reported NZ immigrant Geoffrey Botkin next year.
Reading it now, it strikes me that over the last couple of years I can think of at least two families that have moved over from the states that are incredibly right-wing, fundamentalist in their thinking (and I don’t get around much in the religious group of homeschoolers) and have heard of others causing difficulties in other homeschooling support groups.
Geoff Botkin boasts plans to have his son, now in his 20s, elected as the Prime Minister of NZ when he his 57. To be honest, read that with the same degree of WTF that I read the rest.
In conjunction with this, I also recently complained to our National Council for allowing religious messages Creating a God-Centred family – workshop by to be sent via the secular NCHENZ message loop.
Decided to give the two seconds required to google the advertised speakers with Geoff Botkin mentioned above, and they seem to be well acquainted.
In summary:
– a message on the homeschool loops in 2009 which was tl;dr
– recalled that message after reading Lusks amateur leaked documents
– was able to google that message and read again, which now sounds more credible given some of the recent US families that have moved to NZ, and the workshops that have been offered by the christian support groups in the last couple of years
– found links between the person named in the original (2009) email and those currently doing the rounds within the christian homeschooling groups.
If any of the original email is true, then imagine if this group aligns with funding a hard-right wing conservative government. The families I have had direct contact with seemed to be middle class, but would also be quite likely to give a significant portion of their income to their church (which may end up including a political lobby group).
…as mentioned, only posting due to a series of “coincidental clicks”… but does make me wish that there was a group left-wing, secular homeschoolers planning to move here to even out the playing field.
Apart from the obvious typos – missed the link to the speakers:
Building a God centred family
With the frightful anti-science accelerated christian education (A.C.E.) curriculum being used here I’d say they’ve already got their foothold.
Yes, was scared off a introductory visit to a homeschool support group many years ago when they trotted out an ACE curriculum (ie. left halfway through with another equally appalled attendee and went to coffee, made a good friend)
However, know a few moderate Christians that use the ACE curriculum, primarily because homeschoolers don’t have access to the Min of Ed resources or the NZ curriculum and ACE qualifications were accepted as Tertiary entry requirements.
There does however, seem to have been a recent increase in REALLY fundamental, hard-right conservatives.
So what are the Charter schools going to achieve Molly? Maybe those “aberrant evangelical Protestant Christian Reconstructionists” have an avenue for spreading the word.
Personally, I’m completely against charter schools – they seem to have a tendency to increase the inequality in education that already exists.
However, homeschoolers in the US have used them to access state funding and if the structure proposed here is the same, then you may have state funding being used to promote really radical ideas and religious beliefs… one of many reasons I’m really disappointed that this flawed idea is going ahead.
Ouch!
The wording was a bit confusing to me as well. Not knowing any particulars about this Geoff Botkin, I can’t quite figure out if Botkin is hoping his son becomes PM when Botkin is 57 or when his son turns 57.
Going by the above quote referencing his aspirations for his son, I have a hunch that Mr Botkin isn’t quite up to speed on how parliament works.
Yes, WTF is still my primary response re Geoff Botkin’s aspirations for his son, but I am also mindful that I have the same response when considering our current PM.
I work in an op shop and have been surprised at some of the religious centred literature that we have received from time to time – it seems to be sourced from USA. One book set out to educate about financial matters which fits into the ‘prosperity’ religion approach thatis quite strong there and is a perversion of real Christianity.
The prosperity church movement is attractive to many aspirational people, and a very good business proposition for the leaders as religious groups don’t have to pay tax,. Those at the top can accumulate assets quickly and use their example of receiving goodies to encourage followers who are told they will receive wealth if they act in line with God’s (the church’s) directions. Note Sanitarium and also note Destiny but also the plethora of churches apart from the traditional ones.
There is an odious movement in the USA that is built around male superiority and ultimate decision making. The women in it seem to glory in a sado-masochistic approach of apparent worship of their husbands and practising utter obedience to their every word.
In true Christianity this would be idolatory and worshipping a false god.
There is a movement here along similar lines… was tempted to join a discussion with some women at the pools, who were talking about books. After listening a while longer, I realised the book that had them all raving had an odious title along the lines of “Dominant Husband, Submissive Wife”. Not my idea of a good book club read.
Also along this theme, the last election prompted an unprecented wave of unsolicited emails through some homeschool loops asking everyone to support Colin Craig, by votes, volunteers and financial donations. Most loops are self-moderated and are usually just about events, activities and resources. Spent a lot of time sending out cease and desist emails at that time.
I am not into Twitter, but occasionally check out one or two.
Oh, look – Pete George is still around and now commenting on Judith Collins’ Twitter. This conversation mentions a number of authors/commenters on TS – eg Eddie, MS
https://mobile.twitter.com/JudithCollinsMP/status/340752044371632129?p=v
Amusing. I really don’t know why they bother. But I guess that Pete George is just stroking Judith Collins now that his last party has kind of disintegrated. Must need a soapbox.
That’s an image that will haunt my nightmares until death’s sweet release.
If the truth of anything were to be determined by “Pete George once alleged it and no one thought he was important enough to contradict”, oh what a world we would live in. Pete George probably wouldn’t be permitted internet access, for a start …
http://www.iclei.org/our-members/iclei-members.html
http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN007078.pdf
A Pure Wind blew into New Zealand this morning
Christopher Hill interviewed by Chris Laidlaw
Radio NZ National, Sunday 2 June 2013
Christopher Hill is the kind of smooth-talking reptile who is indispensable to aggressive regimes like the United States: he puts a pleasant face on what are all too often criminal and unspeakable policies. This morning, interviewed by a respectful Chris Laidlaw, the former U.S. ambassador and “troubleshooter” spoke in the same soothing, comforting tones throughout. He spoke of going out to dinner with Serbian, Chinese and North Korean negotiators; he was keen to remind us that they have their human side, even if they are always wary. Hill is the epitome of Beltway smoothness, the ultimate schmoozing government insider, the very embodiment of a velvet-voiced diplomat.
It’s all a front though. Underneath the calm voice, Christopher Hill is actually as hardline, and as doctrinaire as any frothing neocon.
Hill is infamous for calling the New Zealand Nuclear-Free legislation a “relic”, and “something we needed to get over.” Chris Laidlaw actually raised this subject with him but, disappointingly, did not challenge him. In the end, Laidlaw might as well have not even broached the subject; Hill used it as an opportunity to speak nonsensical fluff for several minutes, thereby killing off the original point. It’s the oldest political trick of them all, and Laidlaw should have been alert to it. Instead, he laughed along meekly; it was almost as abject a failure as Paul Holmes’ moronic 2005 “interview” with the British war criminal Alistair Campbell.
To make things worse, Hill spoke with apparent warmth and enthusiasm about the New Zealand Provincial Reconstruction Team and the “deeds they have done in Afghanistan.” Now, it is possible that Christopher Hill might be completely ignorant of the scandal and opprobrium that has swirled around the New Zealand PRT, including their possible involvement in the illegal capture, torture and summary execution of Afghani civilians and resistance fighters. Frankly, however, I think he would know all about this, and was simply spouting empty rhetoric.
Instead of challenging him, Laidlaw simply heaped on more praise of his guest, saying “Richard Holbrooke described you as brilliant, fearless and argumentative.”
Hill laughs engagingly at this. He says he does not care for “finger-wagging”. It’s just not his style. It was people like Christopher Hill that George Orwell had in mind when he wrote that political language is “designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. ”
I think Chris Laidlaw was aware that he was being snowed by an expert, bullshitted by the biggest, smoothest bullshitter of them all. But it is no doubt difficult to get into a serious mode of questioning against such an ostensibly pleasant fellow as Christopher Hill. Still, here’s hoping that, one of these days, Christopher Hill will be grilled by somebody in the same way that Kim Hill grilled the former Australian prime minister John Howard.
In the meantime, though, a doleful, discombobulated Chris Laidlaw closed off this epic exercise in diplomatic deception in the following defeated fashion: “That was Christopher Hill, the non-finger-wagger. He’s the dean of the Josef Korbel School of International Studies in Denver, Colorado. Here’s Fleetwood Mac…”
That’s a lot of axe grinding. Glass of lemonade?
That’s a lot of axe grinding.
Actually, it didn’t take me too long. I type with the speed and facility of a woman, thanks to my Commercial College course many years ago.
Glass of lemonade?
Thanks, buddy! Do you have any Pimms?
“I type with the speed and facility of a woman…”
Oy vey! Must be those little hands…. #sexistmuch?
I think it’s sexual descrimination against men; male typists can match the “speed and facility” of any woman /sarc
Hmm, I have very small hands for a man – only 1 person I’ve found with smaller hands was a woman. My avg WPM is about 80-90 and top speed about 115. Not sure if the small hands help or hinder me.
For the record, it was an allusion to Lockwood Smith on the subject of immigrant labour. I manage about 125 wpm. If gender had anything to do with it, one must be typing with entirely the wrong appendage.
Ho Ho some fast typists here. What accuracy do you achieve though? The editing of some of the blogs here is often lose (loose).
Ho Ho some fast typists here. What accuracy do you achieve though?
Well, I for one am as accurate as any woman.
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Are you permanently trapped in an episode of “Mad Men” or something?
For the record, it was an allusion to Lockwood Smith on the subject of immigrant labour.
I got it, my friend. I appreciate the breadth and depth of your knowledge, which enables you to employ such witty allusions at the drop of a hat.
…one must be typing with entirely the wrong appendage.
Hmmmm…. I have long had the impression that “one” has been indulging in the practice known in vulgar circles as “one-handed typing”.
I’m afraid not, Morrissey, you simply don’t turn me on
I’m afraid not, Morrissey, you simply don’t turn me on
More dishonesty.
Are you John Banks, perchance?
Your taxpayer money at work.
Underpaid and understaffed and run for profit, Public Private Partnerships in the health system.
While in the care of private health provider, Spectrum. An autistic boy, in what can only be a deliberate assault, has his testicles kicked in…..
He spends 10 days in hospital and has one testicle amputated. No one is charged, no one is held accountable.
Young male autistic boys often masturbate continuously and publicly, which undoubted, can be very trying and even upsetting for their carers. One of his care givers is guilty of this vicious assault.
None of the caregivers at the Spectrum care home have been stood down, and are all still in charge of handicapped young people. The Spectrum staff at this South Auckland community care home, could not have been unaware of the assault and probably also know the identity of the perpetrator, but have kept their silence.
In cases like this, where the victim cannot speak for themselves and the perpetrator remains unidentified. At the very least those responsible for his immediate care should all be suspended from their posts and made to do anger management courses at their employer’s expense.
This is the third case of abuse of intellectually handicapped people in community care homes in as many weeks.
We the public and the families of those being abused and the victims themselves deserve better.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8746750/Autistic-boys-testicle-shattered
Will something be done?
No, nothing will happen, and the abuse will continue.
Serco who run our prisons in a similar ppp scheme. Have their funding cut every time a prisoner escapes, whatever the circumstances. Spectrum and the other ppp providers for the intellectually handicapped, should have their funding cut every time one of these assaults happens in their care homes.
Maybe then, something would be done.
Nothing will be done until services are brought back in house until then MOH and ministers will wipe their hands clean blame the contractor and it goes around and nothing happens. The state ducks out and contractor passes the buck, person with disability loses.
A disability services agency should be created we need move on from health & disability being one and the same thing because most people with disabilities including myself are not sick. Also most disability services have no medical aspect to them anyway. To run and/or manage them it’s the only serious way to even say you put the person with the disability first and who knows maybe more carers might treat their clients as human rather than “it” that I’ve heard come out of some people’s mouths.
The Greens’ policy on school nurses sounds very promising. It’s directly aimed at improving quality of life, is a fence at the top of the cliff rather than an ambulance at the bottom of it, and will ensure better educational outcomes through healthier kids. It would probably save money in the long run. I really can’t imagine how an adequate argument can be marshalled against it.
Yes there is pete. The $30 mil cost would have to be taken off the gift to Private Schools, and that will not do!
Not to mention the other direct funding of private schools through Aspire Scholarships – a policy introduced by ACT in 2009 and still on offer.
From recollection $5m a year….but I can’t seem to find it online. Am drawing on memory ofan educational lecture I attended with Roger Douglas and Heather Roy at MacLeans college a couple of years ago.
Update: Found a reference Budget 2009 allocated $2.6 million to these scholarships, but was mentioned at the time that this would increase to $5m.
Thanks Molly – keeping track of these little sweeteners that are sort of passed in anonymous plain brown files is important.
True, i have this to say about ‘parental responsibility’, taxation of WINZ benefits, directly cutting monies from WINZ benefits, disallowing WINZ beneficiaries with children to access working for Families payments,
Those are but 3 things that past Governments have achieved which directly ATTACK the ability of parents to carry out and achieve such ‘parental responsibility’,
i can add others as most readers here can as well, the 2008 tax switch and the move to further casualalise the workforce into part time employment being a couple more,
‘Parental responsibility’ and the ability to carry out such a function continually under attack by successive Governments simply reduces parental ability to perform such a function,
Yes to breakfast and lunch in schools, Yes to having health nurses and social workers attached to schools, and Yes to providing gumboots and coats in winter to any kid in school that shows up without one,
And when all is said and done it has to be YES to the provision of after-school meals and extra teachers to help with the kids that don’t get help with the home-work at home,
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/04/03/homework-sux-2/
They don’t need help with homework because there shouldn’t be any at all.
Enniskillen the new Potemkin why fact is always better then fiction
http://www.theworld.org/2013/05/northern-ireland-town-fakes-prosperity-for-g8-summit/
Can’t let the financial and political royalty see the true sorry state of the nations and the people that they are “leading”
Isn’t that what was supposedly done for one of the great communist leaders last century? I seem to recall a RWNJ or two mentioning it.
The parallels between the USA/western allies (who “won”) and the F-USSR (who “lost) are growing all the time.
On another note, a friend of mine remarked that it looks like the Russians have won the space race with the USA through sheer bloody minded endurance – they can still send men into orbit, the USA cannot.
it looks like the Russians have won the space race .
Soon to have 3 major launch sites (it effectively through Soyuz runs the ESA launch platforms)
Why is so much energy being misdirected to “fix” the housing issue ?
As local councils, national politics both left & right muddy the waters by isolated fixes. All this does is create distortions that instead of improving the situation increase the magnitude of the problem, The Auckland Unitary Plan is already being reported as a cause for further increases in property values, adding to the problem.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10887883
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10887864
A single fix is not the answer e.g. GGT A series of steps that are co ordinated are whats required, both at local and central level.
There is a growing concern being voiced over the increasing indebtness of NZ Inc and a growing frequency warning those to future proof their investments from increasing interest rates.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10887784
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10886890
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/8746026/Mortgage-rates-tipped-to-top-7pc
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/8739267/Low-interest-rates-a-trap
NZ is in urgent need of a mixture of measures to rebalance this. CGT, Taxation changes (especially in regard to Interest deductibility), town planning, housing construction to cater for the entire spectrum, state housing stock, to name a few.