Open mike 03/05/2025

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  1. Dennis Frank 1

    Good point from Gordon Campbell:

    Albanese, if re-elected, will have to deal with an economy that as Bloomberg News put it yesterday, has been built on three pillars – immigration, real estate property prices and China – that are all crumbling.

    Currently, in the two party match-up, the coalition is trailing Labor by 47/53, and if anything, that gap is widening. https://werewolf.co.nz/2025/05/gordon-campbell-on-the-aussie-election-finale/

    Three crumbling pillars seems like a potent triad. Potent enough for people to lose faith in neoliberalism? Only if you believe in the collective intelligence hypothesis, and folks who claim to believe in such a thing are always thin on the ground.

  2. SPC 2

    Healthy Homes update as per the required standards from 1 July.

    They do not align with the approach the Green party sought – as to a warrant of fitness.

    Such might cost some of the money now in the pockets of landlords since the return of the mortgage interest cost deductibility and the return to a short period 2 year bright-line test.

    The biggest problem was that landlords could self-assess, and anyone could call themselves a Healthy Homes assessor and issue certificates.

    “There’s no independent certification system for Healthy Homes assessors, and it’s not compulsory.

    It was also a problem for landlords, some of whom had been issued with assessments that didn’t make sense or had been given conflicting advice around what was required.

    A Housing and Urban Development spokesperson said the benefits of regulatory compliance that could be achieved through WOF inspection requirements were outweighed by the additional regulatory costs.

    “The Healthy Homes standards focus on minimum standards that will have the greatest impact on the warmth and dryness of a home without imposing an unreasonable burden and cost on landlords. The standards make all landlords responsible for providing quality rental housing with set minimum standards for heating, insulation, ventilation, draught stopping, and moisture ingress and drainage.”

    An MBIE spokesperson said the focus of its Tenancy Compliance and Investigations Team (TCIT) was to assess compliance with the Healthy Homes Standards so homes were warm, safe and dry. It did not assess how landlords achieved this.

    And remember the rules of tenancy were changed in favour of landlords by the current government.

    https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/healthy-homes-theyre-paying-250-for-an-assessment-theres-no-guarantee-it-means-anything-47379

  3. SPC 3

    Duncan Garner wonders whether the cost of austerity is worth it.

    He does carefully say, it might help the books.

    NACT uses it's self inflicted budget problems (unfunded changes, such as a $1B pa from restored mortgage interest cost deductibility and the other money forgone by changing the period of the bright-line test from 10 to 2 years) to justify reducing the role of government in society (tax burden on the haves). It does not care if it helps the books or not – that is merely the notoriety of its pretence. Its cause celebre, aided and abetted by a PAC called The Taxpayers Union.

    In fact the longer what it is doing fails to work, the longer it keeps doing what it wants to do – cut public spending again and again. It uses the budget problem to justify undermining long term capability in the public sector (such as laying off those involved in research and limiting wages to professionals who have other options worldwide).

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/the-listener/opinion/duncan-garner-is-nicola-willis-risking-pushing-nz-back-into-recession/PRQZVNA56ZFKZL6YHKMYJQI6ZI/

    https://archive.li/PXK82#selection-1209.17-1225.65

      • Kay 3.1.1

        What I've never understood though, is how can starving the plebs in anyway address the lack of productivity this country allegedly suffers from? You know, that productivity that enriches big businesses. If the worker bees have been killed off, then all their tax breaks and labour law lobbying won't help them.

        And who will clean the politicians toilets?

        • Nic the NZer 3.1.1.1

          Its relatively simple to understand this, the meaning of productivity used is highly effed up.

          The actual biggest loss of productivity is anybody unemployed (in the true sense that they would rather be employed) because the result is them not adding any product.

          Institutions like the productivity commission (recently renamed) on the other hand often push for elevated unemployment to surpress worker barganing power and the weakening of employment rights. This mostly detaches remuneration from the employees earning it via their productive efforts. You can call this productivity but what it gains for employers it takes from employees so its not helping the country as a whole.

      • Bearded Git 3.1.2

        Yeah but I talked to Max Rashbrooke after an event he was appearing at in Wanaka a couple of weeks ago, and he said he didn't support a Wealth Tax.

        • weka 3.1.2.1

          how come?

        • Drowsy M. Kram 3.1.2.2

          Rashbrooke seemed to think it wasn't such a bad idea (as part of major tax reform) a year ago. Wonder what’s changed his mind – maybe the suspected “support crumbles” thing?

          Chris Hipkins might just be the one to make a wealth tax work for Labour [26 March 2024]

          The public is at least open to being convinced, and a CGT has a ready-made pitch: income is income. Let’s tax it all the same way. A wealth tax also seems to do well in surveys, although pollsters suspect that its support crumbles once people better understand the idea.

          There are, finally, growing pressures on public spending – the need to deal with climate change’s effects, for instance, or the health demands of an ageing population – that will be hard to answer without major tax reform.

          • SPC 3.1.2.2.1

            although pollsters suspect that its support crumbles once people better understand the idea.

            That explains why? His reasoning is is not about the merit, or the need for it, but a wariness of it not being an election winner. Thus would rather look at other options.

          • bwaghorn 3.1.2.2.2

            A cgt is a poison chalice now thanks to national being wankers , but just put the bright line back at 2 years, same but different

          • Ad 3.1.2.2.3

            Changed his mind when he bought a house. ?

            • Drowsy M. Kram 3.1.2.2.3.1

              Perhaps a tad unkind, but smiley

            • bwaghorn 3.1.2.2.3.2

              Ha ha no not really I'm unlikely to ever sell ,I think a cgt should be on all property just at a low rate, making it un dodgable. But it's just a bat national beat labour with every election.

              The bright line is already there, so just tweak it and if possible make it permanent.

              Either that or get elected and then just say we've been forced into a cgt because national have left us such a terrible mess

          • mikesh 3.1.2.2.4

            income is income.

            How can that proposition not be true. However capital gain is wealth and should be taxed as part of a wealth tax; and of course we wouldn't have to wait until a property is sold before a tax can be levied, since property itself is wealth.

    • AB 3.2

      In fact the longer what it is doing fails to work, the longer it keeps doing what it wants to do – cut public spending again and again

      They appear to define 'working' as the government getting back into surplus. That's the fallacy of the household analogy of the economy. But unlike households, governments can't cut their spending without adversely affecting their incomes. Thus their actions deepen the problem they are purportedly trying to solve.

      It's worth noting (as you have), that the resulting doom loop produces something they find quite ideologically exciting in a creepily fanatical way, i.e. perpetual cuts to government services. I have always thought that their apparent belief in the myth of the household analogy is a matter of convenience not conviction.

      • SPC 3.2.1

        And as soon as economic growth improves the budget position of government they offer tax cuts to their base (those with children in private schools and with private health insurance as well as landlords), despite knowing that this is not affordable across the economic cycle.

        The sad thing is some others also vote for this because of their desperation to afford rent, save for a home or to meet mortgage payments (the OCR goes up when the economy is stronger).

  4. gsays 4

    For those with a maritime interest, while a little bit away from our usual topics, it's an intriguing insight to how corporations use rules to dodge responsibility.

    https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-files-lawsuit-against-owner-and-operator-vessel-destroyed-francis-scott

    That link says what it is in the tin. Also has a hyperlink to the complaint.

    Also there is this, an ABC article with worker exploitation and tax havens, favourite passtimes of the 'captains of industry'.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-28/ship-owner-in-baltimore-bridge-tragedy-vessel-banned-australia/103642216

    • Obtrectator 4.1

      Singaporeans are good at evading responsibility of any magnitude. Their flag-carrier accepts no liability for damage to the handles of your luggage, only the actual body of it.

  5. Ad 5

    Just a teriffic analysis of working class despair and the rise of US populism from Brian Easton, from which he draws tentative local conclusions:

    https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/are-we-paying-enough-attention-to-the-working-class

  6. Bearded Git 6

    You can watch the Australian results roll in tonight live on the ABC.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-03/federal-election-2025-live-anthony-albanese-peter-dutton/105245936

  7. Joe90 7

    Rotting from the head down.

    .

    When U.S. District Judge James Boasberg ruled in April that Trump administration officials could face criminal contempt charges for deporting migrants in defiance of a court order, the blowback was immediate.When Elon Musk shared an online post that mischaracterized the work of Judge Boasberg’s daughter, some of his followers responded on X with calls “to lock her up."

    The president’s supporters unleashed a wave of threats and menacing posts. And they didn’t just target the judge. Some attacked Boasberg’s brother. Others blasted his daughter. Some demanded the family’s arrest – or execution.

    U.S. District Judge John McConnell’s family endured similar threats after he ruled that President Donald Trump overstepped his authority in freezing grants for education and other services. Far-right provocateur Laura Loomer tweeted a photo of the judge’s daughter, who had worked at the U.S. Education Department as a policy advisor, and accused McConnell of protecting her paycheck. Billionaire Elon Musk amplified the post to his 219 million X followers.

    Neither mentioned the daughter had left her job before Trump’s inauguration.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigations/these-judges-ruled-against-trump-then-their-families-came-under-attack-2025-05-02/

  8. Muttonbird 8

    Bob Jones is dead. If only it happened earlier we wouldn't have had to put up with this:

    A Sir Bob Jones column which said "had it not been for migrants, mainly Brits, not a single Māori alive today" would exist, has been deleted from the National Business Review (NBR) website.

    The content of the column has been called "inappropriate" by NBR and has been slammed by social media users.

    In the column Jones suggested a public holiday "where Maori bring us breakfast in bed or weed our gardens, wash and polish our cars and so on".

    "We should introduce a new public holiday, Maori Gratitude Day, in place of the much disdained Waitangi Day."

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/sir-bob-jones-nbr-column-on-maori-pulled-due-to-inappropriate-content/7OBF2BS57JQQI2C2OFG6F7ZWVU/

    Good riddance, Bob.

    • I understand that he had to import the last couple of his "wives" from Thailand. There are some "jobs" that Kiwis won't do. I know this because I know someone who worked for him over the last few years.

    • Hunter Thompson II 8.2

      Robt Jones's demise has sparked a range of comments; some people loathed him, others liked him. I suppose you could call him an activist, but he always looked after #1.

      Various court cases show that side of him, including one from 1993 involving Jones selling shares in Robt Jones Investments Ltd on the quiet. The judgment refers to the company secretary being scared of Jones, who would erupt in rage from time to time.

      I assume that Addison's disease, from which he suffered, accounted for much of that.

  9. SPC 9

    Fran O'Gilbert and Sullivan returns to that old musical chairs game in her latest column.

    The call to not kick the ball to touch till 2044, but to do what Jim and Ruth did after the 1990 election (increase the age for super from age 60 to age 65 by 2000).

    https://archive.li/U3Gv5#selection-3985.0-4147.80

    For her edification, this is what they should have done.

    Super rate benefits age 60-65, so there was not the poverty from job loss (benefit cuts and 10% unemployment) or being on a SB in ones last years.

    As for the future, the time to decide is around 2030 and that still gives 10 years notice for the 2040-2050 period (age 65 to 70). And with the common sense constraint anyone age 60 to 70 on JSB or SB, still gets a super rate payment.

    • Muttonbird 9.1

      Someone, maybe Thomas Coughlan was on ZB the other day saying that while the long held meme that means-testing is more expensive than universality in net delivery, means-testing programs which are income based are easier for IRD to manage because they have our incomes.

      I'd want IRD to be able to access not only our incomes but also our assets and make the calculation on that because we know the wealthiest people are the worse offenders in reducing their income exposure to IRD.

      Surely this is one of the many benefits of a wealth or CGT. All assets will be registered.

      • Craig H 9.1.1

        Depends on the size of the benefit and definition of income. Income testing super – maybe. Income testing winter energy payment – less so.

    • Ad 9.2

      $0 NZSuper for any +65 person or couple or trust with +65 beneficiaries with $3m or more in assets.

      Watch all those grandchildren get house deposits real fast.

      Albanese is taxing all Superfunds over $2m. It can be done.

  10. Sanctuary 10

    Just had a look at today's Herald, at a guess I would say Fran changed the password on the CMS and is refusing to tell anyone what it is.

  11. weka 11

    Lefties livestream on the Australian election.

    https://www.youtube.com/live/l38llrCY4Qk

  12. SPC 12

    Mahjong and Marco Polo discuss strategy and crossing the rubicon.

    A journey learning the lessons of history and applying them in the modern world.

    Their conclusion, when madness abounds, wall the region off from dangerous (northern barbarian contagions) influences.

    (probably up as a post about foreign policy tomorrow, once Oz elections results come in)

    https://archive.li/iPpDk#selection-4661.0-4661.393

  13. aj 13

    Up the wahs

    • gsays 13.1

      Man, what a grandstand finish!

      Only scoring 2 points in the second half.

      Thanks to Luxon's New Zealand, the crowd at Suncorp is half Kiwi.

  14. Joe90 14

    Labor, with a likely increase in majority.

    • Muttonbird 14.1

      RW commenters have been telling us for months they are certain of a structural shift to the right as a response to woke madness.

      UK – Labour (debatable if they are lefties at all but it is one of the most conservative Western countries out there)

      Canada – Liberals (apparently unwinnable for them, they did it anyway)

      Australia – Labor (again debatable if they are lefties at all, just slightly more palatable than Dutton)

      The trend though is that the left is far from dead.

      • SPC 14.1.1

        The UK has a stamp duty, CGT, gift duty and estate tax – this (if not the amounts) is bi-partisan.

      • Craig H 14.1.2

        I think the anti-woke backlash got overwhelmed by the anti-Trump backlash, same as in Canada.

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