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Today's Posts (updated through the day):
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Louisa Wall – Project 2025 Is Silencing Māori Dissent — and It Didn’t Even Start Here
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Work will not be so safe
Louisa Wall – Project 2025 Is Silencing Māori Dissent — and It Didn’t Even Start Here
The Ukrainians have hit the Kersch bridge again, this time underwater on the support structure. Salt water and reinforcing iron don't mix! This could signal the slow death of Putin's prized connection with the Crimea.
Who said Ukraine doesn't hold any cards?
Slava Ukrainii
NZ PM Luxon, NAct1 denier in chief , just doesnt see it…..obtuse? Asinine? Dogmatic? Maybe just a fuckwit…..
This despite that quite large Left Elephant looking aggressive…..
Cmon Left…..into them !
Luxon said with regard to the poll, "There's lots of different polls and frankly I'm just not going to comment or focus on the polls. Frankly what we're focused on is we were elected in '23 and people get to decide again in 2026."
Frankly, Luxon could find nothing positive in the poll result. He personally is further into negative ratings, Labour is ahead of National, the coalition is six seats behind and Hipkins is preferred PM.
NZFirst is on the rise, and Peters is unleashed from being deputy PM to begin campaigning already. Seymour as his replacement will not help Luxon who will be struggling to maintain the illusion of coalition partnership as we close up to 2026.
And frankly people might just decide in 2026 to oust the coalition, and him as well, if he's still there as leader of National.
It would be interesting as to what parties the voters who changed their minds in this poll came from and went to. Also, the gender vote split, has it widened as a result of right wing misogyny?
I note that cunning Winnie carefully avoided the collateral shitstorm damage from Pay Equity. IMO he's as cunning as the proverbial shithouse rat….( I did have a wry smile at the header though….Keeping Mum : )
I did look to see if I could find Info on your "It would be interesting as to what parties the voters who changed their minds in this poll came from and went to. Also, the gender vote split, has it widened as a result of right wing misogyny?"
Not much at the moment, however I expect there will be quite a bit of examination on that.
Good news but I'm puzzled as to how the RNZ Reid Research poll and the TVNZ Verian poll are so different on major party support and PM preference. In round terms the Verian poll has National on 34% and Labour on 29%. The RR poll has Labour on 33% and National on 31%. Verian has Luxon on 23% and Hipkins on 19%, while RR says Hipkins 23% and Luxon 19%.
If they are both reputable polls as claimed and taken post-Budget, how can this be?
https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/budget-2025-national-and-labour-lose-ground-in-latest-1news-verian-political-poll/
Pretty sure they usually say there's a +- 3% margin they're pretty much the same!
Yes. Both had a margin of error of 3.1%'
1 News "polled by mobile phone (500) and online, using online panels (502). " "Between May 24 and May 28 2025,"
RNZ-Reid "poll of 1008 people was conducted by Reid Research, using quota sampling and weighting to ensure representative cross section by age, gender and geography. The poll was conducted through online interviews between 23-30 May 2025"
So different methods would also have had an impact.
Quite a bit depends on how you take your sample. If any are still drawn from the phone book (though I doubt if they are now) there'll be a bias to the right because landline users are mostly from older age-groups.
All of the results are within the margin of error – and are effectively identical – not only between the two polls, but in comparing the current poll result to the previous one from the same pollster. Not to mention the 11% who declined to answer (though a lot of them will decline to vote as well)
Individual polls are of little use in understanding popular opinion change – it's only over the medium to long term can you see trends.
And apropos NZ PM denier in chief Luxon….
These so called "worthies" (who are indeed Climate Scientists,) had sent a letter which calls NAct1 out…
And also in RNZ, there is an article about an introduced invasive weed (sadly one of many) with an ironic connectivity to same…
AgResearch principal scientist and weed management expert, Dr Trevor James warns…..
NAct1's actions…are ignoring and fuelling the Climate problem.
The only thing propping the New Zealand economy right now is methane production via milk.
And at a $10 per kilo payout there's real incentive to press on and convert every bit of rolling hill drystock land to dairy as well.
Why I rarely, if ever, give credence to anything you post….
I'm guessing you have a solution that weans the New Zealand economy off milk: 24% of our entire export revenue.
Weaning…..has to be done with everything. The "easy money" that milk has provided NZ, has not been without significant cost (amongst others, a huge environmental one..suffered and subsidised by the NZ Public/taxpayer)
Has to start somewhere…Just Transition is a way….to begin that weaning. (Following article also has many interesting and useful links within)
Also following on from my comment at # 4…NAct1 seem to have lost the desire to meet our signed Climate commitments.
It has become an ever changing, even fading, goal…with IMO no sign that they plan on doing fuck all….
Farming lobbyists seem to have increasingly less desire, or interest, to pay for, or change the damaging processes they cause our Earths Climate. Absolutely supported by a FedFarm friendly NAct1 govt.
NZ Farmers.Clean Green?…
bullcowshit.Dinosaur thinking….completely inline with NAct1. Our World (and its inhabitants) are increasingly looking for Alternatives. Which are Clean and Green.
I agree with pretty much everything you say.
Problem is Federated Farmers and DCANZ have proven to successfully face down every kind of government; to actively destroy the Labour-Green attempt at water regulation and methane gas regulation and in no small part destroy the entire Ardern government …
… and with National to just actively demolish methane regulation to the level of pointlessness as per their announcement yesterday.
And regrettably they are growing in power and confidence.
This is to my mind the most powerful node of NZ political power, and in many senses more powerful than our entire Parliament.
By a long way dairy power is our most difficult political problem.
Absolutely. What’s wild is the sheer hypocrisy of it all: an industry that demands constant public subsidies: water rights, infrastructure, trade deals, even marketing.
But then throws a tantrum at the thought of regulation, emissions pricing, or paying their share for public services. All with a straight face.
They’re morphing into a new landed aristocracy of all noblesse and no oblige: Happy to take the privileges, furious at the idea of responsibility.
It's a coalition.
Landlords, the oil and gas/mining/tobacco company vaping industry coalition, business avoiding FPA (Industry Awards), a rentier axis and their evasion of stamp duty/CGT/estate and wealth taxation.
And all under the concept of capital and aggregation thereof being the prime mover in the order of society, not government.
The mainstream media in this country is utterly clueless.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/paul-henry-revealed-as-host-for-the-chase-new-zealand/47P72ISXPFDZBETXKWZZUQD2IM/
lets record an NZ version of the Chase, only we are cheapskate fuckwits so in reality you have to live in Australia to take part.
Lets record an NZ version of the Chase, only instead of finding some like the humorous, respectful and empathetic everyman like Bradley Walsh (who is critical to the shows success) we'll give the job to the oleaginous, elitist, and pretentious Paul Henry, who is everything Walsh is not.
Casting Henry in this role demonstrates the complete creative bankruptcy of the MSM elites, pompous handmaidens and bodyguards of the rich and powerful who are seemingly incapable of executing even the simplest casting choice without shovelling it as a sinecure to one of their decling stable of vastly over paid mates.
Attempting a local spinoff of anything demonstrates the creative bankruptcy of the MSM.
Mind you, AFAICS, broadcast TV is a dying medium – so presumably they know their audience….
Yeah – though Paul Henry is a right-wing elitist, which means being a craven brown-noser of, and propagandist for, wealth and power. There is nothing 'elite' about him personally.
Well that's depressing, I lobe the chase and often wonder if I'd have a go if it came here(I have brain full of random mostly useless info) but that guy is a dipshit.
Remember they did the same with Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Filmed in Melbourne. With Mike Hosking. Don’t think it lasted a season.
The NZ season, ironically to be filmed in Australia, is only four shows. It's not compulsory viewing, let alone compelling.
It's a bit like watching three first-time blade shearers up against a gun electric shearer. Sure, the trio can finish shearing a sheep but competing, even three against one?
One morning, at a regional conference, I watched David Lange doing a Dominion Post crossword. I did it first time years earlier, with three other young University grads, in about three hours. Lange knocked out each clue, with a brief drum of his fingertips and a cursory search of the ceiling to his upper right, in about ten seconds. Incredible to watch….
Built like the Chasers, he played like one. What a TV show that would make!
As opposed to "What is the symbol for the element that sounds like an Australian greeting?"
David Lange was pretty ace at quizzes too. He was once on a Sale Of The Century special in Australia, competing with other pollies from both there and NZ. Finished only a few points adrift of top spot overall.
Yes, I could imagine. I read somewhere that he got recognition also for knowledge and suggestions made while visiting factories etc garnered from listening to and observing practices in earlier visits to other factories.
I've this theory that NZ audiences don't really care for anything that smacks of elitism. As Stephen says, WWTBAM only ran for about 8 episodes. Before that, after a 25-year gap, we had a disappointing one-season revival of Mastermind and a University Challenge that managed to stagger through three series before folding. Jeopardy? Blink and you missed it.
I reckon there won't be more than this projected four episodes of The Chase. Wonder whose Chasers they'll borrow for it?
My news feed is getting to know me.
It appears Bayer/Monsanto have been caught doing what Big Pharma, Big Tobacco and oil corporations have been caught doing. Despite their 'rigorous science' one thing, executives knew other things.
It would be great if there was a definitive decision in the States, against glyphosate before our own authorities make the stupid decision to allow GMOs into the wild.
The Food Standards Authority needs to make noise in support of the 1000s of submissions against this short sighted travesty.
https://www.thenewlede.org/2025/06/on-the-ropes-bayer-seeks-escape-from-costly-roundup-litigation/
Good initiative by Stuff:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360711173/gaza-one-photo-ground
Story outline
1.Expecting 6 million people by 2040.
2.Historically housing supply does not keep up with migration inflows.
Consequences
A rise in housing value cost to income and a rise in rent cost to income.
The stock of income related housing has not kept up with a growing population, thus more government tax revenues goes on AS instead.
Why?
No increase in productivity.
Thus a rise in population through labour demand. And a larger (and ageing) population begets new worker demand. But his is all unrelated to the limited export sector/resources economic base (plus added value and or new tech modernisation). Thus continuing low productivity.
But there is a new factor, AI and this will cause worker displacement (loss of "middle class" jobs). Thus a fall from well-paid jobs to others less secure and less well-paid.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/558525/how-has-the-housing-market-coped-with-population-growth
Warning.
I just spent time writing a submission re the Regulation Bill. When I got to "Submit," page blanked out with the message:
"This page isn’t working
http://www.parliament.nz is currently unable to handle this request."
Luckily I have saved my work and will try again later
Duncan Webb asked in parliament why the date the bill was to be back in the house was changed from December 23 to September 23. The answer won't fill you with confidence:
So, David Seymour misspoke, again. It echoes when he called Mariameno Kapa-Kingi an idiot in the house but was allowed to implausibly deny it. It mirrors when he said no-one had anything to fear from him as DPM then promptly announced how dangerous he is.
The guy is untrustworthy and a liar. I think thew public are starting to see it and it's why he might have reached his zenith.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/04-06-2025/echo-chamber-the-trouble-with-taking-david-seymour-at-his-word
"Misspoke", did he? And got to retrospectively correct himself? Hah! Try doing that during the Cashbuilder round on The Chase!
Starting to wonder now how far back MPs can go to have the record corrected like that, if they subsequently find it embarrassing.
Why is the Metservice interface so bad?
We're told to use it for information but seemingly whenever extreme weather events are predicted the website is either down or really slow to load, ie rain radar not working right now.
Under-resourced? There were big changes for the weather/climate offices too. The same can be said for Parliament as well. The "question to be asked" today were unavailable until after QT. I just got the Submission page open again, re-did my work only to have it blanked out again.
Perhaps it is the work of Seymour to prevent Submissions to his lousy Bill?
Could this be the answer?
https://norightturn.blogspot.com/search/label/Democracy
That is damning. I also forgot to add to my list of reasons @11.1 why David Seymour is untrustworthy and a liar; he claims 99.5% of submissions to the RSB committee were written by a bot.
Death by a thousand cuts for him, and it can’t come soon enough.
Only the best people:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360712300/pms-press-secretary-recorded-sex-workers-without-consent
Fascinating.
The Prime Minister hired a man who contracted, photographed and recorded sex workers, filmed women in the gym, and in the supermarket, and while dressing in their own homes.
Despite the Police knowing about a complaint by sex workers:
Are we to believe Police, knowing the employment status of this guy didn’t consider informing parliamentary services?
https://www.1news.co.nz/2025/06/04/prime-ministers-staff-member-resigns-over-serious-allegations/
What the f… the guy must have some serious issues. Taking audio recordings is one thing, but the rest is just f…… disgusting.
Typical conservatives, can't respect a woman even when they are paying her let alone their grandmother's caregiver who they are trying not to.
From the Mr "Magoo" (RL/KduF) 1999-2000 era and now another right winger out of the Dominion stable onto National Party service, this one both seeing too much and recording sound without consent.
Reminds one of Clem's (Hon CS) in house boy, later head of Prosecutions at HQ driving home from a police bar.
Whose been a bad man in Welling town, read all about it in the evening (at least he was wearing his French letter)
Reminds one of women of the world in Paris Wellington (Flight of the Conchords)(tell it to Carol Brown – Carolyn Brown knew Judy Flyte, Drongoes in New York inside knowledge).
What is in a name.
George William Forbes PC (/fɔːrbz/; 12 March 1869 – 17 May 1947) was a New Zealand politician who served as the 22nd prime minister of New Zealand from 28 May 1930 to 6 December 1935.
(extra E deliberate)
No one wants a hole in one’s Wellington’s.
Songs from the past in the dungeon bar after a trip to a protest at parliament to meet John G (policeman and No 15) and Jim A in that north of the steps room.
Two sprung to mind:
Jason Eade
Aaron Gilmore
Neither did anything like this.
For Luxon, an uncomfortable PM who is not used to and has not faced any crises, this one is primed for him to fumble in his bland, vacuous, insincere way. But he'll blag his way through it and think it's done, but voters are watching.
Must be hard reading for David Farrar who is desperate to tie Jevon McSkimming’s employment to Chris Hipkins.
National is to blame for its politics.
This is a personal entitlement*** thing, sort of inexplicable to be so South Korean in a western society (Only Fans and more) though.
(I'm expecting the deputy at police HQ to be an AI nudify*** user)
The Dame's 1987 Collective seem to have sorted it.
The stress is beginning to tell on both Luxon and the rest of the Natz.
Answering questions in the House today, Luxon, in amongst the clichés and repetitions, sounded desperate!
And the rest of the motley Natz crew emphasised the 'we're a government that delivers' message.
I think they know the writing is on the wall! [to use a cliché!]
The real story is that they they are not meeting pay parity in the ECE area, yet to enact it in full for primary care nurses and have all but blocked pay equity.
The well to do class not playing fair with women is there for all to see.
The PM probably didn't know. But Forbes was working for National Ministers long before his recent job in the PM's office.
The complaint was made last year.
But Forbes carried on in various jobs, knowing what he had done, and knowing that his behaviour had been investigated (he was interviewed by police).
His apology now is phoney. His only regret is that this is now public.
Who knew what and when is still an open question.