Open Mike 05/03/2018

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  1. eco maori 1

    Good morning Duncan on the AM Show TV3 m
    Mark said Labour and Green support the ttp 11 contract.
    The greens are not supporting the ttp11
    And i have seen poles that show 54% of people are against this connetract.
    We have seen what companies do in country’s with now laws this contract is going to give these companies the power to act behave as if they are above the law in New Zealand.
    Ka kite ano

  2. tracey 2

    Read the following in a stuff comment. Woukd be interested to know if others are hearing the same whispers?

    “Worse still NZ, the Waitangi Estate, that 1000 acres gifted to the people of NZ by Lord Bledisloe all those years ago – you know, the place that a small piece of paper was signed by many that made NZ a nation, the place that we all own. Well, there are plans afoot, under the radar right now of course, to build a hotel complex for the same type of people that are spoken of in this article, the elite. Coincidentally there happens to be a decent golf course frequented by many Kiwis out for a hit and a giggle within metres of this proposed complex that will also be gobbled up. No doubt for the good of all NZers of course, but only for the super rich of good character for sure.

    Too bad about the views that are unrivalled in this country, the historic significance, the serenity, or the fact that it is a place enjoyed by everyone. No, we will likely see high fences and gated areas to protect the privacy and enjoyment of those few able to afford it.

    Every Kiwi should be talking about this – friends, neighbours, even visitors to our land that such a proposal could even be considered. Write to your MP, even you deep south people, because once this starts, where will it stop? There is a reason this is being kept quiet you know.  

    • James 2.1

      I wouldn’t put too much weight on the comments section of stuff.

    • veutoviper 2.2

      I would be very surprised if this was true in light of the nature of the land, its status vis a vis the gifting of it by the Bledisloes in 1932, the legislation relating to the land and its historical significance.

      Why don’t you do some research yourself , tracey? A quick Google brought up a number of links which look worth following through but I’m not doing it as have other priorities. But here is one I looked at which gives some good background to the Waitangi Estate and its two types of land etc

      This is a PDF which is a Departmental Submission in 2015 by the Ministry of Culture and Heritage to the Maori Affairs Select Committee re proposed changes to the Waitangi National Trust Act 1932. The WNT Act incorporated the Waitangi National Trust Board, vested the 500-hectare WNT estate in it, and conferred powers on the Board. The proposed 2015 amendments related to technical changes to the Board membership provisions relating to the Governor-General, PM etc.

      I don’t know whether these membership provisions were passed by Parliament in 2015 (haven’t checked) but the PDF contains some very clear explanations about the 506 hectares owned by the WNT; and the adjourning 545 hectare Endowment land also gifted by the Beldisloes in 1932.

      These explanations start at para 18 onwards and there is also a good map on page 18. So there is a good start for someone to do more research.

      A bit more about the WNT here, including more background re the Bledisloe gifting of the land.

      But the Act is probably the key to whether any of that could be dispersed for the uses suggested. I very much doubt it.

      • patricia bremner 2.2.1

        Hi veutoviper, hope your’e getting on top of the cause of your pain. So understand. Our youngest son now 50, was diagnosed with coeliac disease 8 mths ago. That often causes irritable bowel and diviticulitus along with the illness which goes with it.
        He has done everything to help himself now he knows, and it is 6 months since he was last in hospital with dehydration. He is well now as he shops online from the coeliac’s section of his supermarket in AUS, and got his own toaster,bread knife etc. But some conditions people think of as minor can have major impacts.

        Those who kindly told me the timetable to a hip operation. Well I have had my Xrays 2 weeks back. Have been told it is in a dangerous state by my Dr. So now I am awaiting the Specialist to “Look” and “Date stamp” my application as being in the next 4 months for an operation. Long slow wait.

        • veutoviper

          Hi Patricia – much better and caused by similar but different autoimmune disease to your son, Want to discuss this (and hip) more but conscious that this is in no way related to the subject of tracey’s post and thread. LOL
          Will figure out how we can talk more elsewhere …

  3. eco maori 3

    Morning Rumble Rock radio Roger I have just made a check m8 move against the sandflys the music on the weekend was excellent Kia kaha guys Ka kite ano

  4. James 4

    The Government has rolled over – Dr Jane Kelsey.

    Reading the article it would be interesting to know what’s suspended and will be back in the agreement if the US decides to join.

    It could be a very smart move by the US to get a stronger position.

    • tracey 4.1

      Of course they have rolled over. I am just surprised a supporter of the Nats now cites Kelsey to support their premise 😉

      • James 4.1.1

        I disagree with her on the benefits of the TPP – but agree that this government has done a complete back flip.

        • McFlock

          whereas she can’t know if they’ve “rolled over”, or to what degree, without the additional side letters.

        • gsays

          You got plenty of room for your jig on that pin, James?

          • James

            No dancing. I’ve always been for the tpp.

            So do you think that labour have done a U – turn on the tpp now they are all for signing it ?

  5. James 5

    All politicians should keep out of crap like dancing with the stars.

    Now we have a labour MP actively asking to be on it.

    Love the fact he didn’t click the article was satire (especially as the have satire in bold as the first word).

    • tracey 5.1

      What? No Max Key or Mark Richardson?

      • James 5.1.1

        Perhaps they are both smarter than the MPs who are dumb enough to go (or try to go) on this show.

        • alwyn

          Don’t be so mean James.
          The MPs we are blessed(?) with are meant to represent the people of New Zealand. Thus they have to include some who are, shall we say, a few cards short of a full deck.
          Any current MP who wants to go in for this show clearly qualifies as a representative of those citizens.

      • alwyn 5.1.2

        I’ve heard a rumour that a Meteria Turei was keen on the idea though.
        Hasn’t got much on her plate these days apparently.

        • Psycho Milt

          Any relation to Metiria Turei? I expect not, seeing as that Turei’s still busy working for the Green Party.

          • alwyn

            I asked but I was assured the person they were interested in was named Meteria.
            My source also told me that the program generally liked to use people who were known to the public. They were very unlikely to have a place for your friend who he said he had never heard of.
            Tell her not to get discouraged though. There must be something out there that she can do in the way of real work and she will be able to give up play-acting.

    • Bill 5.2

      To be fair James, he obviously didn’t read the article, but had received information that came from the article.

      But yeah. Maybe NZ Politics should come with a satire tag all of its own.

  6. ECO MAORIs Kiwi Bank ac 389019048573100 Please help me to sort the nz police out

    I decided against trying to use PayPal to receive donations .I decided to copy
    Thestandards safe way of appealing and receiving donations I set up a Kiwi Bank AC
    So he tangata the people of Aoteraoroa New Zealand who support ECO MAORI can use internet banking to make donations and know that there bank accounts are safe after they have made a donation . ECO MAORI will use the donations to SUE the nz police for all the breaches to mine and my Whano Privacy Rights & Human Rights a lot of people can see this has been happening to ECO MAORI when I win my case I will set up a
    Charitable Trust and I will pay the money that I used and any extra donations into this Trust account and appeal to anyone else in Aoteraoroa who need help with finance to SUE the nz police for there in justices I will copy bank statements on this site to let he tangata the people know that ECO MAORI has Honest Honorable and transparent intentions to use your hard earned Putea Money. P.S I see a couple of post I haven’t seen for a bit here on the standard I wonder what they are going to say about this .
    Kia Kaha Ka kite ano

    • JohnSelway 6.1

      I’m not sure of the wisdom in putting up your bank acc on a public forum

    • eco maori 6.2

      Its a account with know internet axis Kiwi Bank same as Thestandards has for there donations the sandflys have blocked axis to that Australian website that had the book on Ropata Wahawaha .
      Ka kite ano

      • JohnSelway 6.2.1

        * shakes head with confusion. Backs away slowly *

        • james

          I think Eco Maori is trying to say that he has had difficulties with Give-a-little and paypay and is now taking direct donations to his bank account.

          • mauī

            James you sound like a kind fellow, how about you start the ball rolling for Eco?

            • james

              Because I do not believe in the cause they are fund raising for.

              Not saying that they are right or wrong – but I cannot donate to something I disagree with.

              • faroutdude

                As far as I can tell Eco is looking for some insect repellent, extra strength.

          • JohnSelway

            I just really question the ethics of letting someone ask for donations on The Standard without actually being clear what the money is being used for and why.

            Just my 2c and I’ll leave it with the site mods and owner from here on in

  7. rhinocrates 7

    As a confirmed bibliophile, I’m not fan of Amazon at all, especially not their oppressive labour practises. Now it looks like it’s going to get worse, as this article from The Economist shows:

    If you have to buy books online, there are alternatives, such as The Book Depository and Fishpond, while Abebooks and Alibris connect you with independent second-hand booksellers. However, the threat is not just Amazon; it’s likely to become a model for future labour relations and negotiations.

    And new disciplinary technologies create an additional risk for workers. Heaps of data about their activities within a workspace are gathered, while their cognitive contribution is reduced. In both ways, such technologies pave the way for automation, much as the introduction of regimentation and discipline in factories facilitated the replacement of humans by machines. The potential for automation increases the power of firms over workers. Anyone thinking of demanding higher pay, or of joining a union in the hope of organising to grab a share of the returns to increased efficiency, can be cowed with the threat of robots.

    And just a reminder that it is The Economist:

    The high pay of workers with exacting jobs in finance or technology can reasonably be seen as compensation for their burdensome working conditions.


    • Molly 7.1

      For second-hand and new books, I also use Better World Books. A B-corporation since 2008, with a fairly high rating of 114/200. As with Book Depository – postage is included in the book price.

      Like you, usually avoid Amazon, but find the others to be really good.

    • adam 7.2

      A can of coke is good for Robots.

      A splash here, or a splash there.

    • JohnSelway 7.3

      I just had a delivery from The Book Depository arrive today.
      Mind of Matter – The Images of Pink Floyd:

      A must for any Pink Floyd fan…

    • Grant 7.4

      I think you’ll find Book Depository is owned by Amazon

    • Siobhan 7.5

      Book Depository is really just Amazon…owned by Amazon and run on the same ‘principles’.

      It was set up by an ‘Ex’ Amazon employee, same tax haven status, left alone for a few years to be established in consumers mind as an ‘ethical alternative’.
      Though why anyone thought that I do not know.
      Nice font I guess.
      The name suggesting rosy cheeked English villagers collecting books in wicker baskets, in a lovely refurbished Victorian warehouse, and then sending those books POSTAGE FREE…presumably the workers paying for our postage out of the goodness of their hearts.

      But no, just another branch of Amazon for a good few years now.

      ABE, also owned by Amazon.

      I get regular emails asking me to sell my books through them, and while I occasionally have to buy from ABE if I cannot contact the actual seller overseas, I would rather not have Amazon clicking the ticket everytime I sell a book.

    • Ad 7.6

      The Art&Object rare book auctions are good too, especially for New Zealand history, and if you like the live auction experience.

  8. adam 8

    God bless Russia. This is the way to deal with people who defy you. How dare anarchists no less, question the FSB (Russia’s Federal Security Service). Lets have more of this in NZ, and way more closed courts. Capitalism can not be questioned.

  9. adam 9

    On the good news front.

    The teachers union strike in West Virginia is going real well. It would appear that the teachers themselves are in control of strike, and the corporate union types have lost control of the workers. In other good news, it’s spreading.

  10. Ad 10

    A U.S. billionaire threatens to stop further investment in New Zealand if the bill before Select Committee to stop the right of foreign buyers to purchase homes goes ahead.

    He has worked assiduously with local Maori on the co-development near Parakai, and wants to do more.

    His objection is notably not for himself, but because the luxury dwellings he is building will have too small a pool of buyers to be worth the development risk.

    It was the last bit that caught my eye.

    • Pat 10.1

      “It seems counter-intuitive to allow me to be a New Zealand resident under existing Immigration Act provisions while requiring me to then sell my residence under Overseas Investment Act provisions,” Kayne complained.

      It seems counter-intuitive to consider that a sellers immigration status would impact a foreign ‘buyer’ ban

    • patricia bremner 10.2

      So New Zealanders are not rich enough? Wow who would have guessed?

      • savenz 10.2.1

        Yep, apparently those luxury developers in Queenstown have the same problem, Kiwis not rich enough. Maybe they can house swap or perhaps invest in NZ so that people who live here 365 days a year have wages high enough to afford what NZ has to offer.

        Personally over all the ‘luxury golf courses’ being built here.

        Haven’t we got enough already?

        It seems either mines (James Hardie), giant stanching cruel battery chicken farms for Tegel/Asian private equity firm Affinity Equity Partners ( , Golf courses or Hyatt hotels.

        Much of the so called foreign investment seems to be polluting or not really helping the NZ people. Some seem to be doing the opposite.

        Maybe rather than breaking foreign investment down in money spent, it should be more focused on foreign money being spent to help the NZ people not just $$$ amounts to make NZ a banana republic to build themselves a hideaway or earn as much profit as possible while polluting as much as possible?

        • patricia bremner

          A number of speculative golf developments failed to get buyers on the Gold Coast Aus.
          Hotel investments also ended up lemons as an income stream often.

          But, many hung on and 10 years later their investment base value rose and the capital gains tax diminished. They often just kept up with inflation though. GST?

    • Pete 10.3

      He wants to live here? In which case he would only need to purchase one house to live in.

      Oh, he doesn’t want to live here he wants to make money here. Living here is the excuse, the ticket to do that. “You’re only worth it if I can make a financial killing.”

      No doubt a lovely man like Peter Thiel. In some words what they do is colonisation. Another word could be the horrible G word which people like Trump hate, as well I guess as his mates like Thiel – Globalisation

      If America is so great make your money there by investing in US companies who are going to make money by manufacturing in factories at home. You know making all the American stuff at home rather than the poorly paid factories in China.

      • Ad 10.3.1

        He claims to live here well above the 100 day minimum.

        It would be a useful policy goal to eliminate the need for an investor category of migrant.

  11. Bill 11

    I see the centre’s holding up well 🙂

    The Five Star Movement has garnered the most votes in Italy’s general election.

    I wish I spoke Italian so I could read their platform instead of relying on mainstream liberal media, favouring the centrist ground, probably don’t report on the Five Star Movement all that fairly or accurately.

    As it stands, I’m not altogether sure whether the Five Star Movement is a good thing, a bad thing, or something that falls between those subjective markers.

  12. McFlock 12

    So it looks like the Russell McVeigh complaint spread through the law industry might be hitting law student clubs: UO law camp could be cancelled.

    Thing is, while law students were frequently the worst to work venue security for, 10-15 years back they weren’t the only clubs with dodgy attitudes to alcohol, female freshers and club outings. And nor was it restricted to one university.

    Soooo – I wonder how far this will go…

    • weka 12.1

      Have a look in yesterdays OM, some interesting comments/links.

      • McFlock 12.1.1

        Yeah. And if they’re talking about the dude i’m thinking of, I’ll be really disappointed. But I’ve no idea who’s precisely who these days.

        • weka

          this one too,

          • McFlock

            Oh FFS.

            Who the fuck reads a story about lots of alcoholic antics and people being pressured to take off their clothes at a minimum when they don’t want to and talks about Victorian morals? Big fucking surprise.

            Anyway… shit. I liked Henaghan. I hope he comes up with something more impressive than an apologist saying “15 minutes”.

            • weka

              Is he the dude that’s just taken up a post at Ak?

              • McFlock

                Don’t know about that, but at this stage the msm is reporting he was present for a skit that involved stripping and also for some liquor stuff, but not the jelly wrestling (so far).

                Basically turning up to events, staying a bit, and pissing off, and then things got more visibly out of control. But that’s the situation so far, and he’s being zeroed in on by the ODT and other media. So a bit of a pressure test, and even if that’s the extent the uni might throw him under the bus, anyway.

                From what I recall doing venue security for law gigs, there was always a lot of drinking, a lot of hidden pukers (who we had to kick out then sort out), a lot of screwing (who we had to prevent/stop), and a lot of people pissed off they couldn’t one-up the others.

                Not fun jobs. Lots of arseholes. But faculty usually kept themselves straight.

  13. bwaghorn 13

    Bryce Edwards using the words labour and possible dirty politics in the same sentence. I fucking hope not

    • joe90 13.1

      The sewer spent the weekend ginning this up, too.

    • weka 13.2

      Funny how this issue of conflict of interest is being talked about more seriously now that we have a centre left govt. 🙄

      And Bryce Edwards is part of the problem.

      • bwaghorn 13.2.1

        it’s all to complicated for a mere shepherd , maybe labour should open up like the greens

        • BM

          Less sheep sex, more reading.

        • weka

          I think Labour should, and I was under the impression they’re in their own internal process on this so hopefully the Greens setting the bar high will encourage Labour to do this well.

    • veutoviper 13.3

      IMO, for the most part Edwards’ article is a pretty good summation of the situation and the problems.

      Like you, however, I disagree with his conflation of the Tracey Bridges’ situation and Dirty Politics as he does in this extract:

      “In this sense, the Bridges issue is more akin to some of the issues brought up by Nicky Hager in his Dirty Politics book – about the misuse of government power in political communications.

      Surely, it’s time for a bigger conversation about the use of so many PR professionals in the media. Some of these pundits may well have earned their place as respected political commentators in their own right. But is it good for democracy that punditry is awash with people who are representing undeclared vested interests?”

      My view is that the current situation with the employment, contracting etc of lobbyists, PR professionals in the public service is a end (possibly unintended) result of the corporatisation of the public service beginning in the 1980s.

      As an old ex PS (state Sector) employee whose career spanned both sides of that era, I remember well the strict rules of conduct and integrity applicable in respect of conflicts of interest; engagement with the media; acceptance of gifts, hospitality, etc pre the mid-1980s changes. Sadly, post the changes, I saw the slow erosion of these rules and the integrity of the public service to the point that later generations of PS employee/contractors never receive any training or education in such matters.

      Rather than intentional ‘Dirty Politics’, I think some of these conflicts etc now arise from sheer lack of education or consideration of the possible consequences.

      Not denying that some cases may be intentional, but without clear rules of engagement, conduct etc and training in these, it is hard to identify and isolate such cases.

      But it is actually good to see these issues being brought into the public arena for discussion- even though it was the National opposition that brought the Tracey Bridges case to notice to diss the new government!

      Not holding my breath, but perhaps this – and the Greens announcing rules for their Ministers and MPs re transparency and banning treating and similar perks (as used to be the case for all public servants) – may be a first step to moving back to a better overall public service based on clear rules re integrity and conduct.

      • weka 13.3.1

        This is the problem with Edwards. He has generally meaningful analysis, so gets kudos, and then he says stupid shit like that.

        That Dirty Politics uses PR and media channels doesn’t mean that all PR and use of media channels is DP.

        And too damn right the conversation needs to go wider. No shit Sherlock. What was he saying, and doing, in 2014?

      • OncewasTim 13.3.2

        Good comment vv.
        Especially re consideration given to codes of conduct et al.
        We no longer have a public SERVICE. We have a series of CEOs and their enterage running little feifdoms with coal face peons doing all the work and taking the blame when thinhs go tits up.
        Where has there been ANY accountability by Snr Management in MSD, or NZTA, or MPI, or MoBIE or……..
        Bradbury is correct in his claim that this govt’s biggest enemy will be parts of the PS.

    • james 13.4

      Why? Are you saying that they never get involved?

    • Bearded Git 13.5

      David Farrar never owns up to, and is never introduced as, the pollster for the National Party when he goes on The Panel. Similarly it should be made clear that the Taxpayers Union is a right wing lobby group when Jordan Williams appears, but it never is.

      • Stuart Munro 13.5.1

        He probably deserves a stronger warning than that – he’s a far-right agent. He involved himself in a couple of takedowns – Colin Craig and Len Brown – he didn’t confine himself to lobbying.

  14. Penny Bright 14

    Where is the EVIDENCE that I’ve ever said ANYTHING about Auckland Council or the Auckland Council CEO that was factually inaccurate?

    “Ms Bright has made wild and inaccurate accusations about the council and its probity and is using this as the basis for not paying her fair share to the ongoing running of Auckland.

    These assertions are completely unfounded and her actions are at the expense of all Aucklanders,” says council chief executive Stephen Town.

    My latest formal request to Auckland Council elected representatives to ‘do their jobs’ and INSTRUCT the CEO to provide details of awarded contracts to be made available for public scrutiny.

    27 February 2018
    Finance and Performance Ctte.

    Scroll through to 1.50 minutes for my 5 minute presentation:)

    Documents I had appended to the Minutes of the 27 February 2018 Finance and Performance Committee meeting.

    Included are current details of awarded contracts for:

    Auckland Council
    Auckland Transport
    Watercare Services

    Also includes my invitation to The Hague by the World Justice Project to the 2017 International Rule of Law Forum as a ‘NZ expert’.

    Plus the list of names, positions and email addresses of fellow ‘International Rule of Law experts’ who attended this Forum at The Hague.

    5.1 Public Input – section 17A ‘value for money’ review of Auckland Council and CCO services – Penny Bright

    A. 27 February 2018 Finance and Performance Committee:

    Item 5.1: Public
    Input, Penny Bright- tabled document

    Penny Bright

  15. joe90 15

    The final Fonterra dividend for the year was paid in September 2016 and an interim dividend paid in April 2017.

    The offences allegedly occurred between October 2016 and April 2017 at Hukanui, a small settlement just off State Highway 2 between Eketāhuna and Pahiatua in Northern Wairarapa.

    Although the 11 different charges all relate to cows, they come under two broad categories – lameness and surgical bandages.

    One charge alleges the trio and their company failed to ensure the health of 74 cows by failing to both protect them from, and diagnose them with, lameness.

    They are also charged with reckless ill-treatment of 54 cows suffering from chronic lameness by failing to get them appropriate treatment.

    A different charge alleges 25 cows were recklessly ill-treated to the point where they had to be euthanised.

    Seven of the 11 charges related to surgical bandages not being removed from specific cows, with one of those cows having to be euthanised.

    • veutoviper 15.1

      Thanks for the update.

      No excuse whatsoever for that level of disregard for animal welfare, if true/proven.

      I am not quite sure what to read into the coincidence between the Fonterra dividend payments dates and the period between which the alleged offences occurred.

      I am getting a bit of deja vu in respect of this situation, however. I seem to recall a similar situation with another MP some years ago – but cannot remember who at the moment.

  16. ropata 17

    As part of the “NZ Festival” of Arts (in Wellington), two of our best political cartoonists will be speaking at Circa on Friday

  17. joe90 18

    The early morning tRump twitter tantrum’s going to be monumental.

    The grand jury investigating alleged collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has issued a subpoena seeking all documents involving the president and a host of his closest advisers, according to a copy of the subpoena reviewed by NBC News.

    According to the subpoena, which was sent to a witness by special counsel Robert Mueller, investigators want emails, text messages, work papers, telephone logs and other documents going back to Nov. 1, 2015, 4½ months after Trump launched his campaign.


    n addition to the president, the subpoena seeks documents that have anything to do with these current and former Trump associates:

    Steve Bannon, who left the White House as chief strategist in August.

    Michael Cohen, a personal lawyer for Trump who testified before congressional investigators in October.

    Rick Gates, Trump’s former deputy campaign manager, who pleaded guilty last month to conspiracy and lying to the FBI.

    Hope Hicks, who resigned last week as Trump’s communications director.

    Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s campaign manager until June 2016.

    Paul Manafort, a former Trump campaign manager and Gates’ business partner, who pleaded not guilty to money laundering, conspiracy and making false statements last week.

    Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide.

    Keith Schiller, a former bodyguard for Trump who left as director of Oval Office operations in September.

    Roger Stone, a longtime Republican political operative and Trump campaign adviser who sources have told NBC News is the focus of investigators interested in his contacts with WikiLeaks during the campaign.

    • veutoviper 18.1

      WOW, just WOW. I gave up watching the debacle happening in what was my second home town for almost 7 years way back when, as it was doing my head in.

      This I must watch …

  18. Ad 19

    If anyone in Auckland is interested in joining with a great big series of practical ecological activisms and efforts at the very very flaxroots level, there’s a month of them occurring in Auckland’s west:

    Inside this link is a fat set of events and groups to hang with.

    Personally I love Ecoday festival itself simply as a great trackmeet of the good and the great working through all sorts of orgamisations to green the world.

    But also with the impending closure of all tracks in the Waitakere Ranges, we are also a focus for national and regional biosecurity efforts. This gets pretty important towards central and local budget time coming up in the next two months.

  19. adam 20

    Just WoW, maybe this is why h.r.c lost. Communications, yeah right – racist and xenophobic – gotta ask, when are these people going to leave? I’m supposed to believe 13 russian did it, when Jennifer Palmieri can write this on twitter?

    “You guys. I just got into unmarked gypsy cab at sfo airport with a Russian driver. If I disappear- it’s a tan Lincoln continental.”

  20. The project I can see the sandflys are shaking in there boots now a .
    I can remember when your opposition was reading the weather on 3 there was some subliminal messaging going on back then ECO MAORI picked that up that sort of behavior just added to discrimination against lady’s Ana to kai P.S one just has to look at old footage to back up my claims Ka kite ano

  21. Tricledrown 22

    Backward Minded you must be one of those Russian Bot Meddlers.
    Incendiary comment from our Boring Meme too Weinstien.

    [TheStandard: A moderator moved this comment to Open Mike as being off topic or irrelevant in the post it was made in. Be more careful in future.]

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  • Climate Change: A history lesson
    Why is New Zealand climate change policy so crap? The Herald this morning has a long article on the twists and turns of climate change policy in New Zealand [paywalled / depaywall script], which shows where we've been. The short version is that the government first began worrying about this ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    20 hours ago
  • What the All Blacks Mean to Us
    The All Blacks have been, for more than a century, arguably the most successful International sports team in the world. But they are more than that; even for those Kiwis who are immune to the charms of rugby (and there are more than a few), the All Blacks are ambassadors ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    22 hours ago
  • No one is born into the wrong body
    A short and incredibly powerful speech from a young lesbian woman. No one is born in the wrong body. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Contempt
    Back in June, the UK Court of Appeal ruled that that country's continued arms sales to Saudi Arabia were unlawful. So you'd expect that the UK government stopped approving them, right?Of course not:The government has apologised for breaching a court ruling against the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Covering up the cover-up
    Yesterday NZDF officials were put on the stand about the lies they had told over Operation Burnham, making implausible claims that it was all a big mistake. But along the way, we learned they had already been put on the spot about it by a previous Defence Minister, who had ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Not as important as they think they are
    Farmers have been whining a lot lately, about the methane targets in the Zero Carbon Bill, about Canterbury's proposed nitrogen limits, and about the government's new proposals to stop them from shitting in our lakes and rivers. These policies are "throwing farmers under the tractor", they will force farmers off ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • Behind Every Good Woman Should Stand – Another Good Woman.
    Alone, Alone, All, All, Alone: To argue that the Prime Minister is the victim of her advisers’ failure to keep her informed may offer Jacinda some measure of exoneration – but only at the cost of casting her as a hopeless political ingénue. A star-dusted muppet, whose only purpose is to ...
    2 days ago
  • Poor quality, poorly educated kiddie ‘Journalists’ spreading fake news
    In times of hysteria about the “World coming to an end” and “rising sea levels” so-called ‘Journalists’ who can barely spell words longer than four letters are having a ball! Though the majority of the Public have worked out that manmade climate change is nothing short of pseudo-science, and the ...
    An average kiwiBy
    2 days ago
  • Chris Trotter on the BFD
    I don't want to give pblicity to certain parts of the internet that are better left to fester in their own irrelevance (I know, a bit like this place) but the listing of Chris Trotter as a 'author' on Cameron Slater's spinoff website, the BFD requires some explanation.Now, I don't ...
    2 days ago
  • Sex is not a spectrum
    The text below is a Twitter thread by Heather Heying that explains the essence of sexual reproduction and it long evolutionary history. She is an evolutionary biologist and a “professor-in-exile” after she and her husband, Bret Weinstein, stood up to supporters of an enforced “Day of Absence” for white staff and teachers ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    2 days ago
  • Climate Change: Trees, aviation, and offsets
    With crunch time for new Zealand climate policy approaching, most of the New Zealand media have got on board with a global reporting effort to cover the issue. There's one strand of stories today about polling and what it shows about changing public attitudes to the crisis, but the strand ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Pissing-Off The Israelis Is A High-Risk Strategy.
    Dangerous Foes: For those readers of Bowalley Road who feel disposed to dismiss any prospect of an Israeli destabilisation of New Zealand politics, the example of the United Kingdom repays close attention. Ever since the election of Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the British Labour Party, the Israelis have sanctioned, funded and ...
    3 days ago
  • Something to go to in Wellington
    Make It 16, the youth-led campaign to lower New Zealand's voting age, is holding an official campaign launch at Parliament this Friday from 16:30. If you'd like to attend, you can register using EventBrite here. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • A founding member responds to Peace Action Wellington
    by Don Franks It was a lovely sunny Wellington afternoon with blue skies above  the beaches.  In Courtenay Place, political activists packed out a stuffy upstairs room for an important meeting. The assembled pacifists, anarchists, communists and independent young radicals of Peace Action Wellington felt the need for a mission ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • “Mistakes and errors”
    Current and former NZDF top brass are being publicly grilled this week by the hit and run inquiry over their public responses to allegations of civilian casualties. Previously, they've claimed there were no casualties, a position which led them to lie to Ministers and to the public. Now, they're saying ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • “Homosexuality is same-sex attraction and relationships, not heterosexuals with delusions of gende...
    by Rafael D. Quiles (gender-critical gay man from Puerto Rico) The writing on the wall is right in people’s faces and people just don’t see it or don’t want to. What could actually possess a heterosexual male to want to feminize himself and claim that he is a lesbian? Because ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    3 days ago
  • Trump: “Where’s my favourite dictator?”
    From the Wall Street Journal:Inside a room of the ornately decorated Hotel du Palais during last month’s Group of Seven summit in Biarritz, France, President Trump awaited a meeting with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi. Mr. Trump looked over a gathering of American and Egyptian officials and called out in ...
    4 days ago
  • Magdalen Burns, 1983-2019, fighter for women’s liberation
    by the Redline blog collective At Redline we are very saddened to hear of the death of Magdalen Burns who passed away on the morning of Friday, September 13 (British time). Magdalen was a great fighter for the rights of women in general and lesbian women in particular, a defender ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    4 days ago
  • Parliament and the Executive
    The Brexit issue has certainly brought with it a series of apparently difficult constitutional issues, many of them concerning the respective roles of the executive and parliament. Most of them arise because of the unwillingness of MPs, despite their professions to the contrary, to be bound by a constitutional rarity ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    5 days ago
  • The Abigail Article; Martyn Bradbury’s Article, and My Response
    . . This blogpost is different to my usual format of reporting on issues… Since July 1011, I have blogged on a variety of political issues; near always political and/or environmental; mostly highly critical of the previous National Government. Other issues included Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and repression of ...
    Frankly SpeakingBy Frank Macskasy
    5 days ago
  • Police will have to wear silly Buckingham Palace hats from now on, says Police Minister
    Those close to the Police Minister believe the initiative may be the result of Nash “seeing a great deal” on AliExpress. In a move that comes seemingly out of nowhere, Police Minister Stuart Nash announced this afternoon that he expects all frontline staff to don bearskin hats, famously worn by ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    6 days ago
  • A sensible crackdown
    The government has released its Arms Legislation Bill, containing the second tranche of changes to gun laws following the March 15 massacre. And it all looks quite sensible: a national gun register, higher penalties for illegal possession and dealing, tighter restrictions on arms dealers and shooting clubs, and a shorter ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • California bans private prisons
    Private prisons are a stain on humanity. Prison operators explicitly profit from human misery, then lobby for longer prisons terms so they can keep on profiting. And in the US, prison companies run not only local and state prisons, but also Donald Trump's immigration concentration camps. Faced with this moral ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • Why PPPs are a bad idea
    When National was in power, they were very keen on Public-Private Partnerships (PPPs) - basicly, using private companies to finance public infrastructure as a way of hiding debt from the public. They were keen on using them for everything - roads, schools, hospitals. But as the UK shows, that "service" ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    6 days ago
  • A Movement That No Longer Moves.
    Moving And Shaking: There was a time when people spoke matter-of-factly about the “labour movement” – a political phenomenon understood to embrace much more than the Labour Party. Included within the term’s definition was the whole trade union movement – many of whose members looked upon the Labour Party as ...
    6 days ago
  • NZ ‘left’ politically embracing extreme postmodernism
    by Philip Ferguson Much of the left, even people who formally identify as marxists, have collapsed politically in the face of postmodern gender theory of the sort pioneered by American philosopher Judith Butler. For Butler even biological sex is socially constructed. “If the immutable character of sex is contested, perhaps ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    6 days ago
  • The obvious question
    The media is reporting that the (alleged) Labour party sexual assaulter has resigned from their job at Parliament, which means hopefully he won't be turning up there making people feel unsafe in future. Good. But as with everything about this scandal, it just raises other questions. Most significantly: why the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • The moment I found out that you found out, I acted swiftly
    By Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern I am every bit as angry as you are. I am every bit as disappointed as you must be. The people with power, oversight and the ability to do something about these processes within the Labour Party should be ashamed. Whoever those people are, I ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    7 days ago
  • This is why people hate property developers
    Property developers think there is an "oversupply" of houses in Auckland:High turnover rates and falling prices may be a sign that there are too many new houses going in to some parts of Auckland, commentators say. [...] Property developer David Whitburn said there was a "bit of an oversupply" in ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Australia to Pacific: “Fuck you, you can all drown”
    World leaders are meeting in New York in two weeks for the 2019 Climate Action Summit, where they are expected to announce new and more ambitious targets to stop the world from burning. But the Australian Prime Minister won't be there, despite being in the USA at the time:Scott Morrison ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Implausible ignorance
    Labour Party president Nigel Haworth resigned yesterday over the party's sexual assault scandal. But while that's good news, its unlikely to take away the stench of a coverup. Because according to Paula Bennett in Parliament yesterday, pretty much everyone in the Prime Minister's office was involved as well:I have been ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    7 days ago
  • Labour’s Fatal Flaw.
     Two-Faced? Labour insiders' commitment to the neoliberal status quo puts them at odds with their party’s membership; its trade union affiliates; and a majority of Labour voters, but this only serves to strengthen the perception they have of themselves as a special elite. Among the lesser breeds, they’ll talk up a ...
    7 days ago
  • Ten reasons the Tories do NOT want an election
    There has been a lot of talk about Boris Johnson wanting an election, and he has blustered with great gusto about 'chicken' Jeremy Corbyn refusing one, but I think there are many reasons why he is secretly glad he has been refused the opportunity:The Tories are an utter rabble,tearing themselves ...
    1 week ago
  • Prorogation Illegal, rule Scottish judges
    Scottish appeal court judges have declared that Boris Johnson’s decision to suspend parliament in the run-up to the October Brexit deadline is unlawful. The three judges, chaired by Lord Carloway, Scotland’s most senior judge, overturned an earlier ruling that the courts did not have the powers to interfere in the prime ...
    1 week ago
  • Let me explain what I meant by Everyday New Zealanders
    By Simon Bridges. The following is a press release from the office of Simon Bridges, leader of The National Party. Key ora, New Zealand. Happy Maori Language Week. Look, I’m writing to you today because I want to clear something up. There’s been a lot of kerfuffle around some things ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Yes, the SIS is subject to the Public Records Act
    I understand there's some stuff going round about how the SIS "was removed from the list of public offices covered by the Public Records Act in 2017". The context of course being their records derived from US torture, which will be disposed of or sealed. The good news is that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • An evidence-based discussion of the Canadian fluoride/IQ study
    Dr. Christopher Labos and Jonathan Jarry discuss the recent Canadian fluoride/IQ research. They provide an expert analysis of the paper and its problems. Click on image to go to podcast. The critical debate about the recent ...
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: Australia in denial
    Australia is burning down again, and meanwhile its natural disaster minister is denying climate change:Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”. Clarifying earlier comments that the question is “irrelevant” when considering the Coalition government’s response to ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Philippines activist speaking on the Duterte tyranny
    Auckland Philippines Solidarity is excited to host Professor Judy Taguiwalo for a speaking tour of NZ in September. She is a well-known activist in the Philippines and was a political prisoner under the Marcos dictatorship. Professor Taguiwalo briefly served as a Cabinet member under President Duterte but was forced from ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Disgust
    I have no special insights to offer on the Labour sexual assault coverup. All I have is disgust. Disgust that an organisation could fail its people so badly. Disgust that they punished the victims rather than the perpetrator. Disgust that its party hacks are apparently blaming the victims for demanding ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speak Up for Women calls out Greens’ censorship
    This open letter to the Green Party was penned after an opinion piece by Jill Abigail, a feminist and founding member of the party, was censored by the Greens’ leadership. (Redline has reprinted her article here).The intolerance of the Green Party leaders and their acceptance of the misogyny of gender ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Member’s Day: End of Life Choice, part 3
    Today is a Member's day, and David Seymour's End of Life Choice Bill continues its slow crawl through its committee stage. They're spending the whole day on it today, though the first hour is likely to be spent on voting left over from last time. After that they'll move on ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Flight to Los Angeles turned back after passengers decide they don’t want to go anymore
    An ambitious plan to fly to Los Angeles petered out into a brief sight-seeing trip and a desire to return home and get some sleep before work tomorrow. Air New Zealand has confirmed a flight to Los Angeles last night was turned back about a quarter of the way into ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Indigenous Futures: defuturing and futuring – an analytical framework for policy development?
    There appears to be consensus – by omission – that the concept of indigenous futures should be accepted at face value. So I scavenged the internet to see if I could locate an academic descriptor or a framework around how we think about it as a concept, and whether it ...
    EllipsisterBy Ellipsister
    1 week ago
  • Cadbury rumoured to be releasing the Pineapple Trump
    Here’s another novelty chocolate to shove in your gob, New Zealand Cadbury could be seeking to make itself great again with a rumoured new release: Pineapple Trumps, a spin on its classic chocolate-encased pineapple treat and do-it-yourself tooth remover. The global confectionery manufacturer and bumbling “before” character in an infomercial, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • The coming resource war.
    During my time in the Pentagon I had the privilege of sitting down with military leaders and defence and security officials from a variety of Latin American nations. Sometimes I was present as a subordinate assistant to a senior US defence department official, sometimes as part of a delegation that ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    1 week ago
  • Māori Language Week with The Civilian
    Kia ora, Aotearoa. It’s that magical time of year. Te Wiki o te Reo Māori. In English, the week that frightens talk radio. As you probably know by now, all your favourite media outlets are participating, some more successfully than others. Stuff has changed its name to Puna for the ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    1 week ago
  • Will Horizons act on climate change?
    Local body elections are coming up next month. And it looks like all Palmerston North candidates for Horizons (the Manawatu-Whanganui Regional Council) want to take action on climate change:Climate change is set to be a key issue in Palmerston North for the next three years if those wanting to get ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • BORA reform is stalled
    Eighteen months ago, the government promised to strengthen the Bill of Rights Act, by explicitly affirming the power of the courts to issue declarations of inconsistency and requiring Parliament to formally respond to them. So how's that going? I was curious, so I asked for all advice about the proposal. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Corbyn and Brexit
    As the Brexit saga staggers on, the focus is naturally enough on the Prime Minister and his attempts to achieve Brexit “do or die”. But the role played by the Leader of the Opposition is of almost equal interest and complexity. The first problem for Jeremy Corbyn is that he ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • A ditch for him to die in
    Last week, English Prime Minister Boris Johnson boldly declared that he would rather die be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit. Unfortunately for him, the UK parliament accepted the challenge, and promptly dug one for him. The "rebellion bill" requires him to ask for and secure yet another temporary ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Warning! Warning! Danger Jacinda Ardern! Danger Marama Davidson! Warning!
    Lost In Political Space: The most important takeaway from this latest Labour sexual assault scandal, which (if I may paraphrase Nixon’s White House counsel’s, John Dean’s, infamous description of Watergate) is “growing like a cancer” on the premiership, is the Labour Party organisation’s extraordinary professional paralysis in the face of ...
    1 week ago
  • Union solidarity with Ihumatao land occupation
    by Daphna Whitmore Every Sunday for the past two months unionists from First Union, with supporters from other unions, have set out to the Ihumatao land protest, put up gazebos and gas barbeques, and cooked food for a few hundred locals and supporters who have come from across the country. ...
    RedlineBy Daphna
    1 week ago
  • Climate Change: The wrong kind of trees?
    Newsroom today has an excellent, in-depth article on pine trees as carbon sinks. The TL;DR is that pine is really good at soaking up carbon, but people prefer far-less efficient native forests instead. Which is understandable, but there's two problems: firstly, we've pissed about so long on this problem that ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • No freedom of speech in Turkey
    Canan Kaftancioglu is a Turkish politician and member of the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). Like most modern politicians, she tweets, and uses the platform to criticise the Turkish government. She has criticised them over the death of a 14-year-old boy who was hit by a tear gas grenade during ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Speaker: Tadhg Stopford: Why I’m standing for the ADHB
    Hi there, just call me Tim.We face tough problems, and I’d like to help, because there are solutions.An Auckand District Health Board member has nominated me for as a candidate for the ADHB, because her MS-related pain and fatigue is reduced with hemp products from Rotorua.  Nothing else helped her. If I ...
    1 week ago
  • Good little vassals
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has published their report on whether the SIS and GCSB had any complicity in American torture. And its damning. The pull quote is this:The Inquiry found both agencies, but to a much greater degree, the NZSIS, received many intelligence reports obtained from detainees who, ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 week ago
  • Who Shall We Turn To When God, And Uncle Sam, Cease To Defend New Zealand?
    Bewhiskered Cassandra? Professor Hugh White’s chilling suggestion, advanced to select collections of academic, military and diplomatic Kiwi experts over the course of the past week, is that the assumptions upon which Australia and New Zealand have built their foreign affairs and defence policies for practically their entire histories – are ...
    1 week ago
  • The Politics of Opposition
    For most of the time I was a British MP, my party was out of government – these were the Thatcher years, when it was hard for anyone else to get a look-in. As a front-bencher and shadow minister, I became familiar with the strategies required in a parliamentary democracy ...
    Bryan GouldBy Bryan Gould
    1 week ago
  • More expert comments on the Canadian fluoride-IQ paper
    The Green et al (2019) fluoride/IQ is certainly controversial – as would be expected from its subject (see If at first you don’t succeed . . . statistical manipulation might help and Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear). Anti-fluoride campaigners have been actively promoting it ...
    1 week ago
  • The return to guerrilla war in Colombia
    by Gearóid Ó Loingsigh On August 29th a video in which veteran FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) commander Iván Márquez announced that they had taken up arms again was released. There was no delay in the reaction to it, from longtime Liberal Party figure and former president Uribe, for ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Air New Zealand identifies this enormous plot of unused land as possible second airport site
    Air New Zealand couldn’t believe its luck that this seemingly ideal piece of real estate had so far gone entirely unnoticed. Air New Zealand’s search for a site to build a second Auckland Airport may have made a breakthrough this afternoon, after employees scanning Google satellite imagery spotted a huge, ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Redline on the Labour Party
    No-one on the anti-capitalist left in this country today puts forward a case that Labour is on the side of the working class.  There are certainly people who call themselves ‘socialist’ who do, but they are essentially liberals with vested interests in Labourism – often for career reasons. Nevertheless, there ...
    RedlineBy Admin
    2 weeks ago
  • New Fisk
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Labour’s failure
    When National was in government and fucking over the poor for the benefit of the rich, foodbanks were a growth industry. And now Labour is in charge, nothing has changed: A huge demand for emergency food parcels means the Auckland City Mission is struggling to prepare for the impending arrival ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Ardern attempts to vaccinate Clarke Gayford live on television to prove that it’s safe
    Gayford, pictured here on The Project, before things got wildly out of control. A bold public relations move by the Government to encourage parents to vaccinate their children has gone horribly wrong. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern appeared on tonight’s episode of Three’s The Project, where the plan was for her ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Has Mr. Whippy gone too far by parking on our front lawns?
    Mr. Whippy’s business model has driven it down a dark road of intimidation. Residents in major centres around the country are becoming disgruntled by the increasingly aggressive actions of purported ice cream company Mr. Whippy, who have taken to parking on people’s front lawns and doorsteps in a desperate attempt ...
    The CivilianBy admin
    2 weeks ago
  • Cleaning up the water
    Today the government released its Action Plan for Healthy Waterways, aimed at cleaning up our lakes and rivers. Its actually quite good. There will be protection for wetlands, better standards for swimming spots, a requirement for continuous improvement, and better standards for wastewater and stormwater. But most importantly, there's a ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Fronting up
    Today I appeared before the Environment Committee to give an oral submission on the Zero Carbon Bill. Over 1,500 people have asked to appear in person, so they've divided into subcommittees and are off touring the country, giving people a five minute slot each. The other submitters were a mixed ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 weeks ago
  • Politics of science – making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear
    Anti-fluoride activists have some wealthy backers – they are erecting billboards misrepresenting the Canadian study on many New Zealand cities – and local authorities are ordering their removal because of their scaremongering. Many New Zealanders ...
    2 weeks ago

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