A frosty start to the day in Southland; clear skies, stars, the sound of waves plashing on the sand; could be worse.MfE are here today to tell us about coastal erosion and climate change. Heard of “managed retreat”?
Surely we need a education system that prepares people for lifelong learning, not one that regards attending a university as the only preferred endpoint?
Lots of kids are well ready to leave school at 16. They want to get a job and get money and get out of home, and out from under someone else’s authority, and make their own way in the world.
Fine, I say. Let them leave school at 16, but keep open learning options as apprentices, night & weekend school options and generally if you want to leave formal schooling at 16 then allow you to return to learning at 19 or 21 while still working.
That would far better suit the the huge majority of young people who are particularly tempramentally, intellectually or inclined to want to go to university and slog their way through a pointless meal ticket exercise.
The older system catered for this with an ‘out’ basically at school cert level with technical schools (United etc) providing the trade start up courses.
Everyone else stayed on to university (govt funded Back then) or found something of interest and went that way. It worked a treat, supplied apprentices to building trades etc and gave kids choice if they chose to leave at 16.
But it wasn’t broken so we fixed it with the start of the great dumbing down where pass/fail seems to have given way to an attendance record and aspirational double speak.
The way that the teacher unions demand the status of white collar professionals is a megaphone that informs us of their middle class educational values and attitudes.
Middle class capture of education means an ambient bias that regards professional, white collar jobs as superior outcomes to the traditional trades and artisan jobs (panel beaters, sign writers, roofers, skilled machinery operators, etc etc) that make up the skilled engine room of the economy and can provide satisfying, fufilling and reasonably paid work for huge numbers of people.
Middle class capture of education means an ambient bias that regards professional, white collar jobs as superior outcomes to the traditional trades and artisan jobs (panel beaters, sign writers, roofers, skilled machinery operators, etc etc) that make up the skilled engine room of the economy and can provide satisfying, fufilling and reasonably paid work for huge numbers of people.
More likely that those types of jobs are becoming obsolete.
How many panel beaters are required when it’s just a quick fix and then attach a new part that’s already the right colour?
How many sign-writers when all that’s needed is a large monitor and a PC? Skilled machine operators?
Technological change is making more and more of the trades obsolete.
They were pretty quick to throw the manual teachers overboard. If it can’t be assessed by essay and doesn’t lead to a university lecturing position, it doesn’t matter.
Unfair, Gabby. Who threw the manual teachers overboard? They were never allowed to be NZEI members, because real old primary schools never had tech classes. Only the disastrous Intermediate schools did (I believe that opponents of the introduction of Intermediate schools back in the 1950s were quite correct) because they (Int schools) introduced wood/metalwork + sewing/cooking classes, but the weird teachers who did it were not NZEI – they were PPTA members of the secondary schools’ union, because all the other tech teachers in NZ were. Consequently they never had any representation in the primary schools’ union.
Later PPTA could not protect them either, because new industrial law (1980s, 1990s) prohibited unions from taking action in support of other unions. NZEI and PPTA negotiated at different times, able to take industrial action at different times. So when Tommorrow’s Schools gave primary and intermediate schools autonomy to some extent through bulk funding (be aware that all schools are still bulk-funded for their Operations Grants: bulk funding was abolished ONLY for teachers’ salaries.)
Bulk funding is aimed at underfunding, and when that happened to intermediate schools, the pressure came on.
It was the neo-liberal Govts who threw those manual teachers overboard, Gabby. Secondary schools are now dangerously short of them too, but the secondary manual teachers still there were not thrown overboard. OK?
Sanctuary (replying to 2.1.1)
Have you ever been a teacher? If yes, what horrible experience perverted your view of teacher unions? 80%+ of teachers belong to those unions, and you are vilifying all of us.
Idiot. Do you think that none of us understand history, the bourgeois, the bias, and that we aim for middle-class comforts?
I find you shallow and insulting. I hope that you can modify your comment and explain.
I long held the belief (reinforced by my time as a teacher), back in the days before Rogernomics fucked up this country, that all kids should be endowed at birth with say 16 years of free education, the first 10 or 11 years to be compulsory.
This would have meant kids free to leave school at 16 and go into the workforce. Some, however, would soon realise they had made a mistake and would want to return to education – and could do so with the 4 or 5 years they were still entitled to.
They could then go to polytechs or universities to upgrade their skill, with few financial consequences.
I would love to see a system whereby after, say, 25-30 years in employment any person can take a 12 month sabbatical at 80% of their wage averaged over the previous five years (with a cap of course) to do any sort of (state approved) training they wish whatsoever. Thus, if a middle aged manager wants to spend a year learning to, say, be a beekeeper or live in Latin country and learn Spanish, this would be allowed – and at 80% of their previous wage.
I’ve come to the conclusion that people should do a few years in work and follow that with a few years in uni. The first uni course will get them a bachelor degree. After that they start doing research landing them doctorates. The time in work would be to give them actual physical experience on which to base their next cycle of research.
Because it’s what’s necessary in a democracy to improve the nation’s living standard while also living within our very limited means. Same as compulsory voting is also necessary so as to ensure people engage in their own governance.
Uneducated people are detrimental to democracy and not investigating everyone’s ideas limits the innovation needed to improve everyone’s living standards.
“Long service leave forms part of the National Employment Standards (NES). The NES apply to all employees covered by the national workplace relations system, regardless of any award, agreement or contract.”
Surely we need a education system that prepares people for lifelong learning
That is exactly what we need but it’s not solely the fault of the education system. Parents as well have been telling their children forever to Get and education, get a job and you’re right for life. This was bollocks in the 1970s and it’s even more so now as technological changes eliminate ever more jobs. We need to get everyone into continual learning but especially those that haven’t yet achieved tertiary education.
Fine, I say. Let them leave school at 16, but keep open learning options as apprentices, night & weekend school options and generally if you want to leave formal schooling at 16 then allow you to return to learning at 19 or 21 while still working.
Most, if not all, universities allow entrance if the person is over 20 even if they don’t have any high-school qualifications. The problem is that our entire socio-economic system effectively discourages people from getting that ongoing education.
Because for most people the best way to learn about a discipline is to learn from someone who’s been studying the field for years, and to learn alongside other people who are also learning about the subject so you can exchange ideas and aid each other’s learning.
Sure, you might find a club to get that sort of environment, but educational institutions have an important part to play.
Personally I think all education should be free from cradle to the grave, with no limits on when to start a new course.
And yet I can’t help wondering whether the guy who allegedly put oxygen and acetylene in the same bottle the other day had received formal welding training or was largely self-taught. Poor bugger.
I’ve had a small artistic hobby for years now. I learn a lot on youtube, I read a lot, get lots of ideas from all around the place. Most of my pinterest pins are all about it. I own pretty much all the equipment I need for it. I’m ok – not brilliant, but these days I can largely make pretty much what I set out to make (albeit with room for improvement).
But I still pay for regular evening classes at the art school. Because the structure and environment suit me, and it’s good to have fellow people learning the same skills to bounce ideas off.
A thought not at all influenced from being kicked out of school for asking questions, but I’ve long been of the persuasion that young people should be strongly dissuaded from seeking jobs or formal education for some five years or so after leaving school.
Five years to breath and experience before getting on the dread mill?
Against the grain, I know, but I’m persuaded we destroy one another by insisting we go from school to job to grave – with maybe a little breather between work and grave.
If you ask anyone, ‘What are you?’ or similar questions, they will invariably answer ‘a plumber, a teacher a . . .’ the job they do. They should, in an ideal world say, ‘I’m an educated and enlightened human being who has a lot of empathy for my fellows . . .’ or something along those lines.
We are defined by the jobs we do, as if this is the be all and end all of life.
The world is running out of time, but it would be good if everyone could have the opportunity to be whatever they wanted to be.
Yes just earn enough to travel, work, experience life sort of on the bread-mill, and this shouldn’t go against the grain of thoughtful government planners.
As you say, it’s about leaving bias aside to the best possible levels…before passing on ‘knowledge and experience’ … that is inadequate or incorrect for the recipient…
In order to achieve such a level requires substantial self awareness…
At face value there is a dearth of self awareness in the general populace…
Way way back in the neolithic age before we had expensive telepathic stones*, when I was 17, I did a year out working after 7th form.
3 months doing night shift in a factory. 6 months on a town supply dairy farm, 5 months on sheep station in Taupo, and 3 months army as a territorial after I turned 18.
Was damn useful because it gave a whole.pile of discrimination about things that I didn’t want to do It also got me out from underfoot at home.
Then I went to university at Waikato because it wasn’t Auckland and living costs were way lower. I also became a underage barman, part time soldier, and fell in love with playing multi user star trek late at night on the DEC 1170 (it was 1979).
That year off working was incredibly valuable.
* As good a description of cellphones and tablets as any.
Was damn useful because it gave a whole.pile of discrimination about things that I didn’t want to do
Finding out what you don’t want to do and also what you actually want to do is important. IMO, most people are ‘unsuccessful’ because they never do find out and never have the opportunity to do so.
Local body politicians have too much authority to dispose of, or take on projects that cost much. They are often businessmen who have been able to crry out their interest successfully and then take on the role of handling the everyday business of a large entity whether city or region with diverse needs and are then at the top level of their aptitude and knowledge related in Peters Principle, ie they have reached their level of incompetence.
Participatory democracy must start being applied immediately. General competence must be withdrawn from local government and they be obliged to go through more complex levels of examination of scenarios involving big money or letting go of resources, or building of them. This would start off by answering what are the long-term effects of this? Is the body’s expressed vision the actual likely one from what is observed elsewhere and by viewing the possibility of misadventure from weather, low tenders and skimping of quality etc.
What jobs will be lost, how many people and animals will be disadvantaged by this, and for short term or likely permanent? What expenditure on remediation and repair is set aside? Double that figure to get true cost and where is this money to come from? What advantage to the region and to jobs? What profit arises to the buyer? How and when will they
want this profit realised? What demands will be made on the public of the region to enable the entity to realise their profit? Will they employ local people in the running of their business?
Then when all these are dealt with under a number of separate headings, the business people or=f the region, the public who have formed groups to study the matters under each heading, will be called to detail their findings to a series of meetings. Decisions will be made and anecdotes and experience in other areas be related as to the viability of the proposal, and its likely outcome and advantage. The ratepayers will be given figures showing the long as well as the short term effects on their rate levels and satisfactory services they require, ie navigable roads, clean water, sewage properly disposed of etc.
Then there are meetings held, reports in the local newspaper with facts, and information about scenarios elsewhere in the country and applicable overseas ones. Then a referendum of all local citizens with five years’ residence which would be binding if 75% reached for or against, and if carried out to legal requirements .
That would limit the lure of $ in eyeballs effect by citizens elected to office, who have never given thought to anything but their private interests before. The OIO does not and can not, consider matters from a ‘coalface’ point of view, but the residents can, and the really alert and able ones can learn what needs to be considered, losses and gains, and be leaders in discussing the facts of the matter with their peers, being all the adults in the area, and then all can vote from a roll of those having 5 year residency.
You aren’t just – A local body politician, you are The very model of a local body politician. I am the very model of a [local body politician]
I’ve information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;[a]
I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot o’ news, (bothered for a rhyme)
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
Gosman
Joe90 is not you. His opinions are worth something, unlike your meanderings through the forest looking for juicy berries to bite at.
Actually joe90 would not be wrong – I am anonymous and I am (almost) a bedwetter, having a tendency to be incontinent. Lack of muscle tone from sitting too long at the keyboard is possibly part of the problem. It’s time perhaps to do more muscle toning and improve the body and less mind and word-wrestling.
Thanks for ripping off the kids there, Joe with short term thinking.
When the Natz sold off significant parts of power generation companies less than a decade ago, guess what, they got less from the sale than they would have earned from dividends already, so now we don’t have that income for the country to run our schools and hospitals or future income for next generations. The right wingers are financial idiots.
Economic[edit]
The Government was elected in the context of the late 2000s recession.
The Fifth Labour Government’s Emissions Trading Scheme was delayed and the Emissions Trading Scheme Review Committee was set up to review the New Zealand Emissions Trading Scheme[4] in accordance with the coalition agreement with the ACT Party.[5] In November 2009, an amended version of the New Zealand Emissions Trading Scheme was adopted.[6]
Personal tax cuts, reducing taxes on all income; the top personal tax rate was lowered from 39% to 38% and then 33%.[7]
Abolished the Loss Attributing Qualifying Company (LAQC) tax structure, which had allowed individuals (mainly property investors) to reduce their individual income tax by off setting their LAQCs losses (the Look-through company structure replaced LAQCs, but without the tax benefits).
Increased GST from 12.5% to 15% in October 2010.
Increased the minimum wage from $12.00 per hour to $13.00 per hour in its first term, and to $14.25 in its second term.[8] This represents a nominal 3.1% average annual increase, significantly lower than the previous government’s nominal 7.9% annual average increase.
Suspended payments to the New Zealand Superannuation Fund.[9]
Introduced the nine-day working fortnight for businesses who were considering laying off staff.
Capped the minimum employers’ contributions to KiwiSaver at 2%, the amount was due to increase to 4% by 2011 and gave employees the option to contribute as little as 2% of their income to KiwiSaver where previously the smallest contribution amount was 4%. The minimum employee and minimum employer contributions were raised to 3% in April 2013.
Introduced the “mixed ownership model” plan, in which the Government planned to reduce its share in Genesis Energy, Meridian Energy, Mighty River Power and Solid Energy from 100% to 51% and Air New Zealand from 74% to 51%, and sell off the remainder. The plans to sell down Solid Energy were later axed due to the company’s poor financial position. A citizens-initiated referendum on the sell-downs returned a 67.3% vote in opposition (on a turnout of 45.1%).
Ultra-Fast Broadband rollout of fibre to the house to 87% of households
Seven Roads of National Significance
Wonder if the council actually asked the public if they could sell off that land?
$13m may sound like a lot but ongoing income from an actual council forestry operation would have been better for the council and for the local region.
Council and future ratepayers were earning money off that land and trees (incredibly high returns at present plus if we have to axe the plastic, will be worth even more, plus potential carbon credits), plus if the council ever needs land in the future for growth they already own land, that earns them money and capital gains.
Pity our kids and anyone who is retired in the area who are going to have to sort out the mess when our councils and country is bankrupt with idiot short term thinkers and our government and councils have killed the golden gooses.
Public land should be considered a long term asset, not something to be sold and benefit a few for a quick buck, while future needs are not going to be able to be met or it is going to be a lot more expensive to buy a bit back later. They should be forced to consider generational costs not forcing future costs onto the young to sort out the messes so they get cheaper rates for a few years (which they probably won’t anyway).
The thickos at Auckland council for example accidentally sold a bit of the rail access in Auckland according to a local who was complaining about it, which is why they are not using the existing rail line that runs from Helensville right through Kumeu and to the city and could be used now. Instead Auckland rail’s “bright” idea is forcing a massive detour to Swanson in proposed plans and completely new rail options in that area for billions. Doh! Plus they ordered trains that don’t fit thought the tunnel. Oh well, the rate payers will have to pay.
Bought to you by the same council and Natz government that forced planning changes to have 10 acre sections go into 600m2 in Kumeu with thousands of million dollar spec houses being built and only have one, one lane road running through… then wonder why NZ productivity is so low and they can only attract migrants who have little education and no other country will take them or don’t bother working here but plant questionable money here as gold bricks or plan their route to OZ.
A majority of those who bothered to make a submission. My view was that we should retire debt rather than own an asset of dubious value, poor soils on steep/marginal terrain, growing third rate soft wood with limited uses, whose future earnings were dependent on the whims of a global timber market.
A majority of those who bothered to make a submission.
So, just a minority then.
We’re not supposed to be ruled by a minority.
My view was that we should retire debt rather than own an asset of dubious value, poor soils on steep/marginal terrain, growing third rate soft wood with limited uses, whose future earnings were dependent on the whims of a global timber market.
1. The income from the land would have retired the debt
2. According to the article the project proved the feasibility
3. We actually need more wood in NZ to build houses
And do the general public in a catchment area really understand what the factors of concern are concerning the sale of the forest –
Lack of control over workers safety.
Over local employment.
Over access to forest or not when suitable.
Over care for maintaining fire breaks.
Over provision of roading when there is a cut.
Over paying share of fire levy for services.
Over lack of concern for evidence of fire (government used to maintain high watching posts in the fire season.)
Over the access for getting pine cones and clearing slash
for fuel and who is responsible for this (can be handy fund raiser for
local groups who control access reliably.)
Is there opportunity for small local trucking operation
carting slash to wood processor?
Is there opportunity to get work trimming lower braches to provide fine logs with better quality vertical wood and less knots, galls?
Can the forest be sold off by Council in bits over a period when the price is right and then replanted there by locals quickly to avoid erosion?
Can the cutting be chosen carefully so that erosion areas near water courses are left standing?
Can the wood be sold locally at a competitive but reasonable price
for local use?
These sort of matters need to be spelt out and discussed, rather than a general feeling of let’s get the debts down. Keeping and selling some cutting rights to locals or nearby mills would keep money flowing in for infrastructure expenditure.
Their own wood itself could be used direct for some local infrastructure.
And there would be more matters than i have raised. I would be pleasantly surprised if all these points have been thoroughly canvassed at public meetings – it would take more than one.
And the financial advantages of different proposals say – four at most would be interesting. Money now and no resource later along with extra costs for providing usable roads and trying to meet people’s needs for clean air and some break from rattling roaring trucks 7 days a week for months should be thought about.
They are having trouble near Whangarei where there is large felling. Peoples houses are eternally coated with dust inside, they are getting asthma, they can’t use the road as once, the children get dusty while they wait for the school bus, the bus gets squeezed to the side, when it wants to stop and pick up kids it can be difficult, the trucks are rather scary as they go past with their high loads,
Lots to consider; more than just money now, debt drop. And the continuing noise and problem is so different to the regular farm and area noise.
‘nature’ is recognised as one of the most prestigious and most cited scientific journals in the world.
When ‘nature’ takes Australia and Australian political leadership to task, then you know that there is a problem.
In 2015 UN General Secretary Ban Ki Moon called for a one day government leaders summit in New York leading up to the COP 21 Paris agreement.
Moon made it clear that he didn’t want Deputy Leaders or Foreign Ministers or Climate Change Spokespersons. He wanted Government leaders. Moon knew that having the leaders turn up would be symbolic of a government and a nation’s commitment to address climate change.
The Australian Prime MInister of the time, Tony Abbot, refused to go.
Current Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has repeated this snub, for the Pacific Forum.
Australia has two pressing environmental problems: climate change and finding a leader who can tackle it……
…..It’s no coincidence that when Turnbull’s political colleague (and then-treasurer) Scott Morrison wanted to criticize environmentalists last year, he brought a lump of coal to parliament and spoke about it in glowing terms. Last week — after Turnbull confirmed he was quitting politics — his son complained about the “undue level of influence” of the coal lobby….
….Many of those poorer countries are on the front line and will suffer heavily as the weather worsens. So will Australia. Droughts there are projected to increase in length and severity as a result of climate change. Heatwaves, floods and bush fires are also linked to global warming, and are predicted to become more common and more extreme. The country’s island neighbours in the Pacific are likely to be inundated as sea levels rise. As a result, Australia, whose draconian refugee policy is a source of shame to many citizens, is likely to face an increase in climate refugees.
There you have it, climate and refugees.
All power to our Prime Minister under much different personal circumstances for taking the bold and decisive action necessary to get there. She is a real leader.
None of the simpering ‘Fast Follower’ John Key or cowardly Morrison ducking for cover.
Morrison won’t turn up. Pacific Nations are suffering some of the worst affects of climate change on the planet. (so is Australia, but that is another can of worms).
A real leader leads from the front, and is not a ‘fast follower’ like John Key, or stay at home coward like Scott Morrison.
They make the difficult decisions and make the effort to turn up.
On climate Australia is a major global foot dragger, on refugees Australia is the puppet master behind the scenes in Nauru that saw one of this country’s top reporters detained for doing her job.
Australia is imperiously beginning to treat New Zealand as they treat they think that they can treat the other Pacific islands.
My prayer is that our Prime Minister takes up the leadership role on the world stage abdicated by Australia on both climate change and justice for refugees.
I pray that Prime Minister Ardern uses the platform given to her to issue a joint statement rallying the Pacific nations of our region to demand that the Australian leader and government live up to their responsibilities on climate change indifference to human rights and refugee cruelty.
As the nature Editorial says:
Things can change quickly in politics, and Australia has a chance to force that change.
nature
It is our role as smaller Pacific countries to try and make Australia live up to that historic task.
Last time I read Nature it was full of PC-politics, and flag-waving for free-market-democracy. Quickly becoming Just another rag, owned by the capital market, majority owned by Springer, which is majority owned by private equity firm BC Partners.
Are you saying that what Nature has been quoted as saying is wrong? It may be open to being swayed by financial interests but surely this is right to state,
and it stands repeating:
….Many of those poorer countries are on the front line and will suffer heavily as the weather worsens. So will Australia.
Droughts there are projected to increase in length and severity as a result of climate change. Heatwaves, floods and bush fires are also linked to global warming, and are predicted to become more common and more extreme.
The country’s island neighbours in the Pacific are likely to be inundated as sea levels rise. As a result, Australia, whose draconian refugee policy is a source of shame to many citizens, is likely to face an increase in climate refugees….
And the statement below is obviously true, and if we keep our minds on what is true, broadcast correctly and offering a clear path for us to follow to work for effective timely action, we should stick to the path even if it is paved by financiers and self-centred entities, which for a while we can agree and combine with;
“Things can change quickly in politics, and Australia has a chance to force that change.”
From what I can see the PM has decided she should not berate the Australian government in public. Her last experience over the Manus refugeees seems to have sheeted that message home.
So whatever the PIF does in their joint statement there won’t be any direct or indirect criticism of Australia on any issue. Not going to happen on refugees given the PIF is in Nauru, and probably bromides on climate change. Maybe a climate adjustment fund paid for by Aus and NZ.
Ardern should demand that the current Oz government start legislating in accord with the view of most Australian voters, in order to prevent representative democracy from losing credibility.
“The annual Lowy Institute Poll on Australian attitudes to the world and global issues for 2018 has been released. Among a series of interesting findings, one thing is clear: support for climate action and renewable energy continue to grow. In response to the survey’s questions on climate and energy, 59% of respondents agreed with the statement: “climate change is a serious and pressing problem. We should begin taking steps now even if this involves significant costs.”
I am sure you know that governments don’t demand that other government should start legislating on the basis of opinion polls. Ardern is not going to tell Australia how it should govern. She seems to have well and truly learnt that lesson
I know it seems to be the expectation on this site that the New Zealand will give all our close partners lectures on how they should run their countries, but Ardern is a PM, not a political activist.
I hope she hasn’t learnt that lesson, Wayne. Moral leadership is not only required nowadays in practical politics, it will actually be a pre-requisite to the consensus politics of survival for humanity during climate change.
But I share your scepticism inasmuch as she keeps presenting as merely a neoliberal manager of govt. To leave her mark on history, she will have to do much more than just that. She will have to lead a transformational government. One that has consequences on the global stage, not just here. Western statesmen have been conspicuous in their absence since Vaclav Havel. Could be an indicator that western stateswomen are emerging?
Not surprised – the orange roadcone-overcomb is out of options – slippery slope time and many more shockers to come.
“The dramatic and previously untold scene is recounted in Fear, a forthcoming book by Bob Woodward that paints a harrowing portrait of the Trump presidency, based on in-depth interviews with administration officials and other principals.”
White House Chief of Staff John F Kelly frequently lost his temper and told colleagues that he thought the president was “unhinged,” Woodward writes.
In one small group meeting, Kelly said of Trump: “He’s an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I’ve ever had.”
Cohn stole letters off Trump’s desk before he had signed them and Trump never even noticed they had gone. 😯
Stuff reckons “Hate is the name of the game in Trump World”. Author of the review (PAUL WALDMAN ) reckons contempt is the name of the game, and provides the evidence to prove him right. Yet Woodward’s book is entitled Fear to inform us that he & his publisher have a third differing opinion.
We can only marvel at Trump’s ability to confuse everyone else all the time. Whether fear, contempt or hate is a better diagnosis of the political culture he generates, it is, as I mentioned here several weeks ago, social darwinism. Playing all against all, he ensures that only the most fit survive.
Imagine working for the prick. It’d be like:
“look on the bright side Mr POTUS, an orange jump suit matches your complexion and hair. We’ll arrange a hood for you.”
“Your red scarf matches my eyes……..
Loving you has made me babanas”
Fuck what a thicket of dysfunction! There goes the leader of the free Whurl.
The concern is that much of it has rubbed off – including in lil ole NuZull
Must be about time the govt re entered the negotiating room, with an offer better than 2% p.a. (i.e the rate of inflation) otherwise IMO they are just continuing on from the previous govt, and continuing to be part of the problem !!
“”Schools around the country have reported increasing difficulty finding relieving teachers over the last three years.” https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12119342
“”To attract new teachers the offer will see a cumulative increase of14.7 per cent to base salaries for graduates with a teaching degree ($47,980 to $55,030) over three years, and a 14.2 per cent cumulative increase for graduates with a subject degree and graduate teaching diploma ($49,588 to $56,638) over three years.
“Teachers on the next steps (6-11) will see a cumulative increase of between 6.5 to 13.7 per cent to base salaries over three years. Teachers on the maximum step (12) will receive a cumulative increase of 6.1 per cent over three years ($75,949 to $80,599.)”
Its only 2% per year for those on the maximum step. When you look at the actual amounts it was $4500 over 3 years for top of scale and $7000 for new teachers
Apparently not just the teachers have shortages, apparently record amounts of GP’s are due to retire and new doctors are being “encouraged” to have 50% go into being a GP’s and there is predicted to be a shortage.
I’m not so sure it is shortages, but more they have rapidly increased NZ population artificially and in demographics that really impact teachers and doctors and then expect the existing professionals to just work harder… very Rogernomics thinking.
The question also is, why are they having difficulty attracting teachers in the first place or why are they are leaving? I think with teachers it is Dukeofurl comment down (8.2) that hits the nail on the head – too many positions are not guaranteed long term.
Also in NZ the whole system has become too adversarial and so many industries are allowed to rip people off (construction, utilities, councils, food, insurance ) that the cost of living is sky high and people expect to be able to do more than survive, but actually have a decent standard of living if they are in professional jobs.
Part of the problem is that government seem to just write off young Kiwis and not want to encourage them into teaching so therefore you are not getting enough of the people who would be good teachers wanting to do that.
The newish board of trustees system also means they technically ‘hire teachers” so you are getting more of a cultural bias into whatever the board wants as teachers, and the board are not in the teaching profession themselves.
Same has happened with building as soon as they made tertiary about user pays and high fees they automatically encouraged people to go for a career that was considered more financially rewarding.
Teaching should be a high status profession, but somehow they have wrecked that in the last 30 years.
To go into the trades, you used to be paid to do it on the job by industry, not spend time and a lot of money on your education and paperwork for years. They need to get the people in, THEN get them to study and register after a few years of practical paid work under their belts.
Warning – long and detailed but contains some primer points on how things get on the Order Paper for debate in Parliament and what could be an interesting situation in the House today re a Member’s Bill due to be debated probably late afternoon. Also possibly relates to Peters’ current grumpiness and his remarks re refugees vis a vis the Coalition agreement.
Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill (aka Waka Jumping Bill)
This is the first week back to the House in the ‘four weeks on/ two weeks off’ House sitting calendar and for addicts like me it is interesting to see what is on the debating programme for each session.
Of particular interest to me (and possibly very few others except possibly Micksavage and Dennis Frank LOL) was whether the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill – aka the waka jumping bill – would make it back into the House this week. From looking at the Order paper for yesterday and progress made, and today’s Order Paper, the answer is very unlikely. Actually ‘No’ is probably more accurate and may well be intentional.
This Bill went through its Second Reading and half of its Committee stages during the week of 7 – 9 August including under extended hours on the morning of Thurs 9 August, but then lost prominence in the last week of that four week sitting session when the National Animal Identification and Tracing (NAIT) Amendment Act was pushed through under urgency in the week of 14 – 16 August .
[NOTE: the make up and placement of Government Bills on each day’s Order Paper is solely at the discretion of the Government (Standing Order 68). OTOH Member‘s Bills appear on the Order Papers for Members‘ Days in accordance with a strict priority set by Standing Orders 71 and 72. and cannot be rearranged by the Government, Speaker etc. Private and Local Bills are similarly governed by Standing Orders 69 and 70.] http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/00HOHPBReferenceStOrders20171/7868e924149435f4cb3c6e00cfc63ec498a39b37
Yesterday’s Order Paper (4/9/2018) showed the continuation of the Committee stages of this ‘waka jumping bill’ back down to No 11 on the list of Government Bills. Nine other Government Bills were listed for First, Second or Third Readings taking up a total of up to 13½ hours of debating time allocated to the usual set maximum number of 12 X 10 minute speeches (2 hours) for each Reading.
Normally these nine Readings could take up to 18 hours but the first Reading of one Bill started in the previous sitting session had only 90 minutes of speeches left, and three of the Bills (Nos 7 – 9) were being taken together. Following these Bills, at No 10 was the Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa NZ) Amendment Bill set down for Committee stages which are not limited in terms of time or number of speeches. As National’s current MO is to filibuster every Bill at all stages, but particular at the Committee stages, this Bill is likely to take some time. http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/OrderPaper_20180904/b131016772ec5be085794488af075758fc7a5b55
A normal week in Parliament involves the House sitting from 2pm – 6pm and 7.30pm -10pm each Tues and Weds and from 2pm – 6pm only on Thursday – a total of 17 hours. Each day, Question Time takes up about one hour, and every Wednesday the General Debate following Question Time is assigned one hour a total of four hours, leaving 13 hours for the House to debate Bills, etc in a normal three day sitting week where the House does not invoke extended hours or urgency.
Every fourth week is also meant to be a Members’ Day on the Wednesday – allowing 4½ hours for the debating of Member’s Bills (and Private and Local Bills), further reducing the time for debating Government Bills to 8½ hours in those weeks. However, this is sometimes changed depending on what else is being debated – eg Budget debates and similar override Members’ days.
Yesterday, the House moved through the first three Government Bills on yesterday’s Order Paper more quickly than the maximum time allowed, meaning they were halfway through No 4 on the list when the House rose at 10pm. This time saving was offset by the House undertaking an Urgent Debate called for by Simon Bridges on the removal of Clare Curran from Cabinet taking just over an hour. (As an aside, over 15 mins of that time was Bridges floundering around, which led to the next speaker, Chris Hipkins, calling Bridges’ speech “the longest 15 minutes in Bridges’ life” and Bridges being “two snappers short of a resignation”. LOL.)
Together with today’s Members Day, this means that the only time left for debating Government Bills this week is about two hours tomorrow, Thursday, after Question Time before the House rises at 6pm.
Today’s Order Paper has also introduced four other Government Bills to replace the three Bills that passed their Readings yesterday ahead of the waka jumping Bill which is now back down to No 12. These are at Nos 1, 5, 6 and 10 on today’s Order Paper. Although these Bills will not come up today being a Members Day, in theory the set time Readings of the eight Bills before the waka jumping bill could take up to a maximum of 10 ½ hours plus three Bills now up for their Committee stages debates of no maximum time. Against only two hours available tomorrow.
So bye bye waka jumping bill for this week at least, unless there are further changes to tomorrow’s Order Paper – highly unlikely IMO. If any, they may well push it further down the pecking order.
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Member’s Bill (Rino Tirikatene) – Electoral (Entrenchment of Maori Seats) Amendment Bill
HOWEVER – there is another Electoral Amendment Bill on today’s Order Paper that will be rather controversial and probably will not make it through to Select Committee consideration.
This is the Electoral (Entrenchment of Maori Seats) Amendment Bill sponsored by Rino Tirikatene intended to align the Maori seats with general electorate seats which are already entrenched under section 268 of the Electoral Act 1993. More information is provided in the Explanatory Note in the Bill. http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/member/2018/0056/latest/whole.html#DLM4333801
The First Reading of this Bill is now at No 2 in the order of Members’ Bills and set down for 12 X 10 minute speeches today. The Member’s Bill at No 1 is only set down for 35 mins maximum debate, so taking into account Question Time and the one hour General Debate, Tirikatene’s Bill should pop up for debate about 4.30pm or thereabouts and continue after the dinner break.
When this Bill was pulled out of the biscuit tin ballot back in May 2018 this raised Winston Peters’ blood pressure in view of NZF’s longstanding policy to call for a referendum on the continuation of the Maori seats. He made it clear at the time that NZF will not be supporting this Bill.
Peters’ blood pressure is probably up again with this up for debate today even though if NZF vote against the Bill with National, this Bill will not make it past this First Reading to Select Committee and will die on a Vote of Ayes 54 (L/GP) vs Noes 65 (NZF/Nats) with ACT being an unknown if Seymour votes at all. The latter seems to be his MO at present in many cases.
To avoid this defeat and the further opportunity for claims that the Coalition Govt is in disarray etc, Tirikatene could withdraw or postpone the Bill under Standing Order 74(1)(b) thereby removing it from debate today. In fact, I am surprised it hasn’t been. But then again, maybe an opportune time for it to be debated while both Ardern and Peters are out of the country.
I wonder in fact whether the fact that Peters’ much wanted Electoral Integrity Bill/ waka jumping Bill is not progressing as fast as he wants coupled with the unfortunate coincidence of Titikatene’s entrenchment of the Maori seats Bill coming up for debate today (though the strict Standing Orders mentioned above) has contributed to, or is the cause of, his grumpiness at present, including his challenging remarks etc re refugee numbers. After all , this is politics …and sometimes not dissimilar to chess……
I’m not inclined to see the grumpy old man syndrome as evidence of substantial disagreement, but you could be right that Labour & NZF haven’t reached consensus on refugee policy. Understandable that media seize on apparent discord like a pitbull trying to extricate meat from a body: it’s their industrial process at work.
Just needs govt leader or deputy to say the magic words: ” we haven’t agreed a govt policy on refugee numbers yet”, doesn’t it?
You seem to be missing the point. My post is more about these two Electoral Amendment Bills much more than about the refugee issues.
As you say, the PM and/or the DPM could just say that they have not agreed a govt policy on refugee numbers yet, but they haven’t. Instead Peters has stood his ground on the NZF policy on no increase etc and obviously had not consulted the PM on his intention to do so. Hence my grumpy old man remark (and I have called him that to his face years ago in jest when I had a lot to do with him while working on secondments to Parliament. LOL)
His remarks and the PM’s reaction are not a good look, but I do understand that NZF need to maintain their base conservative policies to maintain their voting core constituency – as is discussed under the post on Winston and the refugees issue by mickysavage.
My point is that last week was a bit of a bumpy one and this week is looking a little so too, so the coincidence of these two Electoral Amendment Bills appearing on the Order Paper at the same time tends to give the perception of more dissonance.
As I said, Peters is very keen to get the waka jumping Bill through, but is opposed in principle to the Tirikatene Member’s Bill to entrench the Maori seats as this is very much against a longstanding NZF policy which they campaigned on to hold a referendum on whether or not the Maori seats should continue. The Tirikatene Bill is to resolve a longstanding technicality which could be left for the moment without any real consequences – in the interests of not raising the preception of more disharmony.
Here is what Peters said back in May when the Tirikatene Bill was drawn in the ballot.
As I also now see, I am not alone in thinking this and I/S has called it on NRT ” … a potential flashpoint in the coalition …” ie
Today is a Member’s day, and finally we’re back to first readings. First up is Hamish Walker’s KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in for Children in their Care) Amendment Bill, and following that is the debate on Rino Tirikatene’s Electoral (Entrenchment of Māori Seats) Amendment Bill. This is a potential flashpoint in the coalition, with Labour and the Greens supporting entrenchment, and NZ First almost certainly opposed. But the bill needs National’s support to work anyway (because entrenchment bills need to be passed by the margin they propose), so we’ll get to see whether they’ve really moved on from the Brash era or not.
Perhaps there has been agreement after all. We only have a few hours to wait.
And it appears that Bridges will not be in the House today, as Bennett is fronting Question No 1 to the PM. With both Peters and Ardern away, who is the Acting PM today?
ADDENDUM – And Seymour actually does have a position on the Maori seats. He wants to abolish them or so it seems. The whole thing is getting even more interesting.
I appreciate your explanations, just saw no need to comment! Hard to tell if they are brokering deals behind the scenes when necessary, of course, as we would expect, to ensure successful governance. If that basic process has been suspended, or has not yet re-engaged after the return of the PM due to scheduling difficulties, some irritation would be natural…
Posted this previously, a few mates of mine sons are currently training to be a builder (A much needed skill) all 3 of them currently have had their son’s in their 3rd or 4th building coys as they proceed thru their apprenticeships. Why is that because they have been placed on contracts not wages, and as work loads for the builders they have been under reduced they are “let go”
In the “old days” apprectices did their time with 1 coy and were waged staff.
The building industry IMO cannot complain about skill shortages and then not have a system that allows ease to obtain the qualifications. It appears much less stress to allow off shore workers to make up for any shortfalls.
Try google and search building apprentices in Auckland the results are to me alarming. There are none
What you have to wonder, is when it is so obvious, why does the government seem so obsessed with doing the opposite and then wringing their hands and/or ignoring poverty, lack of housing, lack of job opportunities for many including school leavers, massive infrastructure costs being forced onto locals instead of business and shoddy workmanship?
Its because of Employment Contracts Act that short term contracts became the norm in building , even for qualified builders.
Is happening in Teaching now as well. Those Schools saying they cant get decent applicants are not saying the job they are offering isnt a staff position but is a contact for a year or so which ‘may’ be renewed. Especially affects those teachers starting out.
Yep, how can you buy a house (or even rent one now) when you don’t know whether you will have a job or not each year and you might be forced to relocate without much notice to get a new job.
I think it is more than that – It is even happening across the ditch – my daughter who has an MA (Hons) and BSc (Hons) and masses of other relevant experience coupled with about 7 years teaching experience simply cannot get a permanent teaching position – and it is not just her – It applies to almost all her colleagues . The jobs being offered are all one year contracts because the schools want to be “flexible” in their staffing requirements. As school rolls go up and down like a yo-yo these days (as they fall in and out of popularity) the school can off load or recruit staff more easily. There is little loyalty to staff these days no matter how dedicated they are.
Yes Chris 73, jacinda beating key at his own game. And although I don’t like it, I am all for jacinda using opportunities like this to counteract the negative spin from msm about labour.
All the bs from garner, soper et al about the cost of jacindas trip tp Nauru. Ffs were any of them outraged by bridges limo use?
I like being clean and smelling clean so I had no other choice but to vote right and, if taking it a step further, my sense of smell comes from my parents then its all their fault 🙂
‘People who have a greater tendency to turn their nose up at the whiff of urine, sweat and other body odours are more likely to have rightwing authoritarian attitudes, research suggests.’
Thing is, like Sir John Key, it’ll take a lot of time before the public tire of Jacinda so best to leave her alone and go after the weaker members of the herd and pick them off one by one
Journalism is on the cutting edge of where it’s at. Or maybe not. I’m obviously not a journalist as who would pay for that sentence!
But it is amazing what will happen to you – TVNZ journalist reporting on Nauru at a cafe after talking to a refugee. Come with us, police station for three hours. But not detained, just have to be careful about being ‘unannounced’ in risk area.
Lost her accreditation, now got it back.
RNZ reporter Gia Garrick – “We had an MFAT official sit the seven of us down, or actually it was the six of us minus Barbara [Dreaver], she wasn’t back at this stage …and tell us that the Nauru government would like to pass on a message to us that it would prefer if we reported on the Forum instead of just focussing on the one issue here.
Really it didn’t want any focus on the refugee issue that has led to problems for the poor Nauruans as well as the inmates. A no win situation for anyone, not even Australians who are so scared of these people. Doesn’t say much for supposedly bold, brave Ozzies in the wars does it.
Good morning Newshub That’s the way Prince Charles lead the way to a environmentally friendly future of sustainable energy ka pai .
I see that great innovative British company Dyson have invested in producing electric cars to ka pai.
That’s sad about that Mana Wahine Penny Bright we need more wahine like her to make a stand for the common people to be treated humanly & fairly by the big boys .
Duncan this is what happen’s when a government denies a housing shortage so there m8 can cash up on capital gain’s. I heard an know of a few people had to live in hotels
4 years ago and the Tsunami of house less tangata is still rolling in & rising .
This same phenomenon has been caused by the greedy people in America Britain Canada Australia the neo libreals buying there voter’s does anyone see a pattion here shonky .
Loyd the fishermen are hard men the scallop fishing dispute between British and French fishermen this must have been going on for a few years they need to Aline there policy’s so this situation you can not two competing fisheries and clearly one is not concerned about preserving the fishery as the other can you see the Bigotry .
Its is laugh able how no negative story’s got to be published and put on TV when the last government was in parliament conclusion FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Duncan there is no magic wand to fix your m8 deliberate shorting our housing markets for there gain . I can see you are all about your EGO ana to kai
Ka kite ano P.S and so are your bosses
Lance O Sullivan does not get the big Picture if
he did he would not go poking holes in the waka that has given the most care for common tangata whenua & then giving the party that caused this mess amo to fire at the Labour party his action could cause us to slide the neo libreals back into power that will be a stuff up for the poor people enough said ka kite ano
You know what makes Eco Maori get a sore face is a lot of Maori leader know that the justice system was and is still un fair to tangata whenua how do I know this well the upper classes are in the no they rub shoulders together they are part of the system and they did nothing to warn te tangata whenua about this un fair justisce system they are just looking out for there own best interest Eco looks out for all people future
Its not just about me in my Papatuanuku
Ka kite ano. Ana to kai
The sirens are going off again did you like my challenge I have sent out to all Maori Leaders He tangata he tangata he atua he tangata . Ka kite ano
P.S these leader’s are still deafening reality all around Papatuanuku the indigenous cultures are being pushed into hardship Australier America Canada Many country’s that are pushing native people under the bridge around Papatuanuku
WOW the sandflys are swarming today they tried a repeat of yesterday’s play by getting some of there young puppets to park right close behind me I could see how nervious the driver was . They think they know me YEA RIGHT
You want to know why they are so unset I used the Infrormation ACT on the New Zealand Police to get all files on me be it written, verbal ,voice recording ,video recording ,written any data and buy the LAWS in there book’s they have to give me this information . I will let you know how my progress is on this subject.
The sandfly’s are interfering in my son’s work life my wife’s work life all of my family’s lives and a lot of people know that this is happening They think they are above the Law that they break every day holding on to there bibles.
If they don’t give me my private information well that will tell all my readers that the justices systems are a SHAM . P.S why are they trying to get me to assault some one because they have nothing on me so they are trying to entice into assaulting one of there undercover muppets so they can beat me in there cells I can see the smoke coming out there ——– Ana to kai ka kite ano
Peter Thiel is one of the people responsible for putting trump in the White House we don;t need him coming down here with the attitude that he is a law on to him self using his money and Lawyers to do just that he will use his money to shape our laws to suit his class of people and who give’s a shit about the consequences of pushing more people onto the bread lines and on the street’s . He backs privatization and smaller governments the first one will siphon more money to the wealty from the poor the people who they don’t care about , There belief is that you have to have poor people this is justified by them they say poor people are what is needed to keep profits flowing up to the wealthy and wages low . The second one is because they want a small weak government so they can do what they want the government,s will be to weak to stop them. Thats how there capitalism WORKS he doe’s not care about the people if he did he would not have backed trump enough said link is below .
Of course Drury is going to back him Thiel is powerful enough to be able to cause a slide in Drurys favorite stock no. Ana to kai ka kite ano link below.Theil will be a raciest like his m8
I filed A Infromation ACT on Ministry of Primary Industry to why because the top cop from Gisborne who started this farce man hunt on me got his ex cop m8 that work for MAF a well known fact that MAF is were cops go when they leave the police force .
So all the information that MAF has will open the door for my court case against the New Zealand Police to stop there un- justified harassment of me and my family .
I have some one of high credibility how told me that MAF was watching me they tryed to get him to sack me he told them were to go. Ana to kai ka kite ano P.S a lot of people can see your bad behavior
Here is a Mana Wahine she discovered the first pulser netron star they emite beams of radiation out two oppsite points on the star over 50 years ago her male colleges got the prize and hounners she was award a major science prize Ka pai the Papatuanuku is growing up. ka kite ano link is below
Good evening Newshub the high price of fuel will encourage people to buy Electric Cars that’s a good thing .
The what Authority ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????.
That organization need to be scraped it is not interdependent it’s is that in NAME ONLY.
Game of Thrones a that’s a good win for Weta digital studio see computer TEC industry’s is big business and NZ is missing out because a lot of contracts for new work is going to over seas company’s.
Humpty Dumpty LOL. his mistress mite be able to put him to gather again.
3d printing is the technology that is going to help us get to a carbon neutral future .
The Mokopunas will just print what they want not shops no low freight Ka pai
Science is going to lead us to a better future that T cell therapy to treat cancer is awsome.
I give Papatuanuku creatures are awesome I had a ridge back dog that was huge .
Ka kite ano .
The Crowd Goes Wild Makere & Mulls I was just writing about Mull’s pronouncing those names he you did better than I would have.
No comment on the ref Mull’s &; Makere for the Leauge .
What was in the drink ??????
Dont cut the cheese Mulls leave the fruit alone guys .
Were’s Wairangi I could guess across the ditch no.
Ka kite ano P.S thats mean That the World Surfing is paying the Wahine the same as the men ka pai
The fake it till you make it class trump everyone could see there were heaps more people at Obama inuarguation than trumps. He still has idiots following him they are idiots as well he is dragging the worst of humanity out of there holes of – – – – fools Ka kite ano
Link is Below P.S lucky his muppets are only actually 20% of the people he fakes all the polls to like shonky
Trump inauguration crowd photos were edited after he intervened
This person is telling us to stop living in the past he would much rather hear about world war 1 & 2 than the real truth about what has happened in the past sure his hapu mite have lost a war and lost there best land but his sad excuse of dont live or look to the past is tipical. The reality is when a country does not teach te Mokopunas about the past they are hiding the facts that they RIPPED off All Maori and not just one hapu they are ashamed of the way they treated Maori full stop.
This writer has a silver spoon in his mouth that will be 1 reason he wants the past hidden he has been sucked into the denial spin what about the thousands of Maori in prison does he think that’s fair enough said link below Ka kite ano
Good evening Newshub has simon sorted out his leak in his canoe enough said.
The Gisborne injection of money is good the roads are bad there back to the future Ka pai.
We can not even control party pill let
alone probiotic go figure.
Burt Reynolds was a excellent old school actor ECO enjoyed his humour and his movies Mike I guessing that you watch some of his movies.
Ka kite ano P.S I’m chasing our Mokopunas at the minute
The Crowd goes Wild Mulls & Wairangi
Wai I thought you were getting a tan in Australia.
That will be mean watching the Wahine League and then the Warriors game straight after Ka pai.
A Japanese Wahine in the finals for the Tennis Kia kaha.
The whenuapai Battlers I miss the name of the your sport.
That was a good win for Kelston college league team Ka kite ano.
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As Aotearoa enters week two of lockdown, it’s clear we’re all still working out what our “bubbles” look like and how to stay in them to stop the spread of Covid-19. New to the government’s Covid-19 website is some good guidance for people living in apartment blocks. Recent decades have ...
“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.” Lenin Don’t we all know that feeling now.
Prospect Magazine alerted me to this particularly apt quote. It is a much more evocative quote than Hemingway’s “gradually then suddenly” which is also doing ...
Yesterday was the day the consequences of the lockdown suddenly got very real for many. Firms have been closing and laying people off since the outset of the quarantine but this has mostly been happening out of the public eye. The mass closure of a number of iconic New Zealand ...
Brian Williamson1, Prof Nick Wilson2 (1Economic consultant, UK; 2University of Otago Wellington)In this blog, we outline how a win-win social contract could be forged to address the major dimensions of response to the COVID-19 pandemic when using a mitigation strategy: the particular need to protect older people from high ...
Resuming Normal Service: The Republican Party's nominee for in 1920, Warren Harding, promised the American people: “not heroics, but healing; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration”. If she wishes to remain our prime minister, then Jacinda Ardern will offer New Zealanders the same.HOW EDUCATED AMERICA snickered when the ...
No Free Society Without A Free And Functioning News Media: If we are to surrender our civil rights to the broader cause of defeating Covid-19, then foreign corporations must, likewise, surrender their right to inflict immense economic and cultural harm on New Zealanders simply because it improves their bottom line.I’M ...
by Daphna Whitmore A third of the world is under lockdown and a clear assessment of this measure to curb the spread of COVID-19 is urgently needed. With any high-stakes decisions it has to be asked what are we dealing with here? Are the measures warranted? Will they achieve their ...
I haven’t done a huge amount in the last few days. I’m reading The Poppy War and I’ve sort of poked at a couple of games – I started SOMA but I’m a wimp and I quit while in the first room after the brain scan. I might try it ...
The swan politicians may be gliding on the water, occasionally snapping at one another. Meanwhile, as the Covid19 crisis illustrates, the officials are desperately paddling below providing the real locomotion. One of the most fatuous recent grandstanding comments (of about a week ago), adding to the public’s anxieties, was ...
Much has been written about the importance of discretion in an emergency situation, and the concerns raised by the potential for it to be exercised arbitrarily. Given the quality of the discussion, there seemed little point in adding to it at any length. In particular, I point to the evidence ...
Today has felt surreal. I was all set to touch base online with my science communication students when a colleague shared the news that Bauer Media would be shutting down its publications immediately. The first link I saw implied it was Woman’s Weekly affected, and even that shocked me. But ...
Bogeymen, Real And Imagined: Is the number of psychopathic and sociopathic individuals in any given society truly as vanishingly small as we like to tell ourselves? Isn’t it more likely that the mass-shooters and serial-killers filling the headlines represent only the tip of a much, much larger iceberg of frightfulness? ...
Outgoing Police Commissioner Mike Bush appeared before the Epidemic Response Committee today, who asked him for the rules police are using to enforce the lockdown. He refused:Police Commissioner Mike Bush has admitted the advice given to Kiwis about what they're able to do during the lockdown hasn't been clear enough. ...
For those folk who find my other Lock-Down Diary versions too “negative” or otherwise unpalatable… Here’s a photo of my cat, . . Better? Tomorrow’s Sanitised Version: a pretty flower. . . . =fs= ...
. . April 1: Day seven of living in lock-down… This morning I had a brief chat with one of my neighbours, “D” (social distance between us, a good three or four metres). I learned he had resigned from his previous job and had been hired by another company – ...
Funnily enough, my thought as I start this post is whether it will be well written enough. Or should that be well enough written? Because so much of what I know about good writing came from my two stints at The Listener, which this morning was shut down due to ...
With normal democratic procedures in abeyance, there were two ways to go. First, it was open for the government to dissolve itself and invite the National Party to join a ministry of national salvation. That would have lessened the democratic deficit of the times by having a team of rivals without ...
Dr Kirsty Ross Children and young people can respond differently in times of distress. This also varies by age and developmental stage, with younger children having more magical and imaginative thinking, and older children having more awareness and knowledge of the issues our communities are facing (which brings up ...
Hungary has been a virtual dictatorship for a decade now, as Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has gradually eroded its democracy. But now, its official, with the passage of an indefinite emergency law allowing rule by decree:Hungary’s parliament has passed a new set of coronavirus measures that includes jail terms for ...
While the economy is on pause under lockdown, the government is beginning to plan how to cope with the post-lockdown, post-tourism, post-export education world we will eventually find ourselves in. They're planning a lot of infrastructure spending as economic stimulus, and have asked for proposals which can start the moment ...
It's my distraction, setting up tiny scenes to photograph. I've got stuck on the Babushka dolls for now. Something about their bubble shape. Something about their never changing, smiling features, suggesting persistent equanimity. Can we get through everything that is being thrown at us and keep at least a tiny ...
. . March 31: Day six of living in lock-down… This time I managed to sleep a little longer and the alarm woke me at the pre-set time: 6.55am. Then remembered I was working a later shift and could’ve slept in. Oh well, there are things to do at home. ...
Image credit:Diamond Harbour School Blogs I notice a few regulars no longer allow public access to the site counters. This may happen accidentally when the blog format is altered. If your blog is unexpectedly missing or ...
Yesterday's Horizon poll showing support for a "Yes" vote in this year's cannabis referendum sliding into the majority for the first time in a year looked like good news for reformers – and it probably is. But the result warrants some scrutiny.The poll is the fifth in a series commissioned ...
For almost a week now, every one of us who isn’t an essential worker has been confined to their bubble. We are allowed to go shopping for groceries, to visit the doctor, and to get a bit of exercise if we stay local. The reason we are doing this is ...
The Covid-19 saga will no doubt produce many twists and turns for us before it is finally brought to an end. But one thing it has shown us – and what comfort it should bring us – is that our country’s government is in good hands. I am not thinking ...
In the absence of a vaccine or a cure for a deadly disease, staying home in your bubble is what you do, the concept is not new. To the best of my knowledge last time we did this in NZ was for polio, in the years before a vaccine came ...
The following statement was released on March 28 by the National Network on Cuba, a coalition of 40 groups, based in the United States. In recent weeks, Cuba has deployed hundreds of medical providers to over a dozen countries in Europe, Asia, as well as to their neighbors in Latin ...
This has been a terrible summer for Hector’s dolphins. The first indication was very low numbers of dolphin sightings during late spring and early summer. The Otago University Marine Mammal Research Team has carried out routine dolphin surveys at Banks Peninsula for more than 30 years. In all that time, ...
On March 17, Finance Minister Grant Robertson was quick out of the blocks with an economic rescue package to help businesses through the inevitable recession resulting from the coronavirus pandemic. Robertson had pulled together a scheme in short order that so far seems to have saved many jobs. In his ...
The purpose of the lockdown is to save lives, by reducing the spread of covid-19. We won't know if its really working for another week, but given the devastation that will result if it doesn't - 14,000 dead is the optimistic scenario - its definitely worth trying. But pausing the ...
. . March 30: Day five of living in lock-down… Woke up still in darkness. Alarm hadn’t gone off. Turn to radio clock; it’s a few minutes after 6am… I lie there in the dark, waiting to drift off to sleep… but it ain’t happening. Clock ticks over to 6.55 ...
The story of Les Gray, the public sector psychologist who told the truth about his use of cannabis and set off a storm, has a special place in the lore of cannabis reform in New Zealand.When Paul Shannon interviewed Gray for the 'Dope and Hope' issue of Planet magazine in ...
by Phil Duncan For Marxists, a key concern about social trends is their context – not just their causes, but why they happen when they do. Events and phenomena have causes, but they also are time or period-specific. While much of the left have capitulated recently to postmodernism, most notably ...
Since the lockdown began, we've all suddenly been reminded who the actually essential workers in our society are: not the people at the top who pay themselves the big bucks and rort the perks, but the people at the bottom they screw over and squeeze: cleaners, warehouse staff, truck drivers ...
Kia ora! As I've watched nearly all my remaining work vanish over the past couple of days, it has occured to me that one good way to keep me away from arguing with fools on Twitter all the time (in the knowledge that all we're really doing is processing our ...
Aotearoa New Zealand has committed to trying to extirpate the virus that causes COVID-19 from its shores. To do that, as a society we’ve moved to “Level 4”. That means adapting to unprecedented restrictions on our personal freedoms, particularly to our rights to move freely and associate with friends and ...
When the Prime Minister declared a state of emergency last week, she handed the police powers to enforce it. And almost immediately, we started hearing about heavy-handed, arbitrary "enforcement" by police who (at best) cared more about order than law, or (more likely) had no idea what the rules were ...
Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister for Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced that New Zealand will enter into transit arrangements with a range of countries to make it easier for each other’s citizens to get home. “There are millions of people around the world stranded ...
From the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, our Government has striven to provide calm, clear and consistent communication, including daily press conference updates from the Prime Minister. ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters says getting New Zealanders back home and other travellers out of the country is "a nightmare for our embassies, consuls, and staff around the world".Speaking to NewstalkZB's Mike Hosking, the Foreign Minister said that he gave a clear message to people travelling overseas that they ...
The domestic travel ban has been lifted for stranded foreign tourists trying to get to international airports to fly home, after the Coalition Government announced a plan to help the tens of thousands of foreigners stranded here. Foreign Minister Rt. Hon. Winston Peters spoke with RNZ's Susie Ferguson said foreign ...
Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters believes the country is rediscovering its resilience and self-reliance through its response to the COVID-19 pandemic.He says he is heartened that the mass majority of New Zealanders are following lockdown rules and that the government looking at the future, including paying to keep much ...
New Zealand can emulate the success of the US after the Great Depression by exploiting our own resources to turn the economy around quickly, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters says. Mr. Peters told Magic Talk that New Zealand has an opportunity to come out of the COVID-19 pandemic a "superior, ...
All 45 New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel are either on their way back to New Zealand, or already in the country, according to Defence Minister Ron Mark."Twenty-eight personnel arrived back in New Zealand last week and are in isolation at the Royal New Zealand Air Force base in ...
The COVID-19 situation in New Zealand is moving fast - and to avoid what we've seen overseas - the Government's response must be to move fast too. We're committed to keeping New Zealanders safe and well-informed every step of the way. ...
We know people are feeling anxious about COVID-19. While the situation is serious, New Zealand has a world-class health system and we’re well-prepared to keep New Zealanders safe. ...
Foreign Minister Winston Peters is encouraging New Zealanders overseas to stay where they are amid the COVID-19 pandemic. "We are reaching a point where the best option for most New Zealanders offshore is to shelter in place, by preparing to safely stay where they are.” "This includes following the instructions ...
Rt. Hon. Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Foreign Affairs Foreign Minister Winston Peters is encouraging the tens of thousands of New Zealanders travelling overseas to consider sheltering in place, in light of COVID-19. “Since 18 March, we have been warning New Zealanders offshore that the window for flying ...
Communities stepping up to help New Zealanders stay at home to break the transmission of COVID-19 and save lives have received Government support, said Minister for Social Development Carmel Sepuloni. “Delivering groceries for the elderly who can’t shop online, providing data packs for low income families to keep them connected, and being ...
Across New Zealand 120 sites are taking samples to be tested for COVID-19. 68 community based assessment centres (CBACs) have been established to take samples from people with COVID-19 symptoms. Alongside this, 52 other centres including designated general practices, swabbing centres, and mobile clinics are now testing people for ...
The Ministry of Education is working with partners to develop a package of options so that students can learn at home when Term 2 begins on 15 April, Education Minister Chris Hipkins said today. Supports are also being prepared for households with children under five, to help parents and whānau ...
Māori Television to begin educational te reo programmes Ki te Ao Mārama – a new online learning space Thousands of hard copy learning packs ready for distribution Helpdesk and advice service for kōhanga, kura and wharekura Television, the internet and hard copy learning packs are some of the ways whānau ...
Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters has announced an initial package of support to help the people and the Government of Vanuatu respond to the impact of Tropical Cyclone Harold. “Our Pacific neighbours have been hit by a Category 5 Cyclone at the same time as dealing with the economic impacts ...
Tourism New Zealand to lead work reimagining the way tourism operates in post-COVID-19 world. Ministers to review International Visitor Conservation and Tourism Levy investment plan. The Government, industry and business are working together to develop a plan for how tourism will operate in a post-COVID-19 world, Tourism Minister Kelvin Davis ...
More New Zealanders are taking up the chance to work in horticulture as the sector keeps New Zealanders fed and in jobs during the COVID-19 Alert Level 4 lockdown. “Our horticulture sector has long been one of New Zealand’s export star performers, contributing around $6 billion a year to our ...
The Provincial Development Unit is working through applications and projects to see where Provincial Growth Fund money can be repurposed for initiatives deemed more critical to fighting the economic impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, Regional Economic Development Minister Shane Jones says. “We need to be throwing everything we have at ...
The Government’s wage subsidy to protect jobs and keep workers and businesses connected during the lockdown has now supported over a million New Zealanders, with $6.6 billion already paid out. “We’re supporting businesses to pay wages, and stay connected with their workers so that we are all in a better ...
The Government is stepping up efforts to help protect New Zealand’s Pacific communities in the fight against COVID-19. Cabinet has agreed that $17 million will be allocated to support a COVID-19 Pacific Response Package, which will: Support Pacific health and disability services facing increased demand; Ramp up public health messaging ...
“Yesterday evening the Health Minister advised me of his trip to a beach during the lockdown and offered his resignation,” Jacinda Ardern said. “Under normal conditions I would sack the Minister of Health. What he did was wrong, and there are no excuses. “But right now, my priority is our ...
Last night as part of my preparation for the Epidemic Response Committee, I provided the Prime Minister with a complete picture of my activity outside my home during Alert Level 4. That included the fact that on the first weekend of the Alert Level 4 lockdown I drove my family ...
A range of support is being rolled out across New Zealand to help people look after their mental health during COVID-19 Health Minister David Clark said this morning. “COVID-19 has brought a lot of uncertainty into our lives and many of us will be feeling some level of distress or ...
The New Zealand Government has made arrangements to charter a flight for New Zealanders stranded in Peru to depart the country, following agreement with the Chilean government to allow the necessary transit through Chile, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters announced today. “Like many travellers around the world at the moment, ...
Hospital preparations for COVID-19 are well advanced says Health Minister David Clark. “Hospitals across New Zealand are repurposing buildings and training staff to get ready for COVID-19 patients. This gives me confidence that we are well prepared for any potential increase in COVID-19 patients needing hospital level care,” said David ...
The Government will be introducing legislation to make changes to the Companies Act to help companies facing insolvency due to COVID-19 to remain viable and keep New Zealanders in jobs. The temporary changes include: Giving directors of companies facing significant liquidity problems because of COVID-19 a ‘safe harbour’ from insolvency ...
The Government’s plan to cushion the blow of COVID-19 by supporting incomes, jobs and businesses, and position the economy to recover has been backed by another international report. International credit rating agency Moody’s today reaffirmed its highest Aaa credit rating on New Zealand, saying the economy is expected to remain ...
National sports organisations have been given certainty of funding to ensure they can remain viable through the COVID-19 pandemic, Sport and Recreation Minister Grant Robertson announced today. “The global spread of COVID-19 has had a significant impact on sport and recreation in New Zealand, including the cancellation or postponement of ...
Changes have been made to allow butchers to process pork, only for supply to supermarkets or other processors or retailers that are open, Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor has announced. “We carefully weighed the risk of allowing butchers to open their shops for retail customers, but the risk of spreading COVID-19 ...
Essential workers who take leave from work to comply with public health guidance are being supported with a leave scheme to ensure they will continue to receive income, say the Minister of Workplace Relations and Safety Iain Lees-Galloway and Minister for Social Development, Carmel Sepuloni. A number of essential businesses ...
A Government WhatsApp channel has been launched to help make information more easily accessible and shareable in the fight against COVID-19. Govt.NZ, which is free to use on any mobile device, will carry information and news for the public, businesses, healthcare providers, not for profits and local government. It can ...
The Government has announced a plan to enable the safe, orderly exit of tens of thousands of stranded foreign nationals from New Zealand during the current COVID-19 Alert Level 4 restrictions, Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Winston Peters has said. “When we moved into lockdown a week ago, the ...
Health Minister Dr David Clark says the Government is delivering on its commitment to support general practice doctors and nurses, and pharmacies on the front-line of our fight against COVID-19. "For us to overcome COVID-19, we need community health services such as general practice and community pharmacy to step up ...
Justice Susan Thomas has been appointed Chief High Court Judge, Attorney-General David Parker announced today. She replaces Justice Geoffrey Venning who has resigned from the position. David Parker paid tribute to Justice Venning, who he said had stewarded the High Court very capably over the last five years. “On behalf ...
Businesses can start applying to their banks for loans under the Business Finance Guarantee Scheme set up to support the New Zealand economy during the COVID-19 pandemic. “We’re moving quickly to protect New Zealand businesses, jobs and the economy during this unprecedented global economic shock,” Finance Minister Grant Robertson said. ...
Work is underway looking at measures to speed up consents for development and infrastructure projects during the recovery from COVID 19, to provide jobs and stimulate our economy. Environment Minister David Parker said the COVID-19 pandemic is a serious global crisis that will have a wide ranging and lasting impact ...
Advance payments will be made to transport construction industry contractors to retain the workforce and ensure it is ready to quickly gear up to build projects which will be vital to New Zealand’s COVID-19 economic recovery, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. He said keeping the workforce required to build ...
The Government has tasked a group of industry leaders to seek out infrastructure projects that are ready to start as soon as the construction industry returns to normal to reduce the economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic, Economic Development Minister Phil Twyford and Infrastructure Minister Shane Jones say. The Infrastructure ...
Work to scale up the health system in preparation for COVID-19 was today outlined by Health Minister David Clark, as he reported back to the new Epidemic Response Committee. “We are well placed to contain the spread of COVID-19. We have taken early and decisive action at our borders, and ...
The Government is refining its COVID-19 essential business guidance to include the distribution of news publications for communities which are hard to reach. The Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media, Kris Faafoi, said the move was in recognition of the importance for New Zealanders who might be harder to ...
The Government is ensuring supermarkets can open on Easter Sunday so we can buy groceries, but stay closed on Good Friday allowing workers to take a break. This provides a balanced approach and ensures we avoid large queues that two days closure may cause. “Supermarkets will be able to open ...
Following the successful conclusion of the Building Partner Capacity (BPC) mission at Taji, New Zealand defence personnel are returning to New Zealand from Iraq, in accordance with the Cabinet decision made in June 2019, Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters and Defence Minister Ron Mark announced today. “New Zealand is very ...
The State of National Emergency to help stop the spread of COVID-19 has been extended for a further seven days, Minister of Civil Defence Peeni Henare said. The initial declaration on March 25 lasted seven days and can be extended as many times as necessary. “Since we went into isolation ...
New Zealand’s ability to go hard and go early in the fight against COVID-19 has been underpinned by strong Government finances and the growing economy heading into this global pandemic, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. The Treasury today released the Crown financial statements for the eight months to the end ...
Health Minister Dr David Clark says 36 new intensive care beds at Christchurch Hospital’s new Hagley building are being fast tracked so they are available for treatment of COVID-19 patients. The Ministry of Health is working with contractor CPB and Canterbury DHB to enable access to the hospital’s ICU, ...
The Government has fast-tracked up to $1 million to help Air New Zealand move urgent freight to and from New Zealand, with the first flight to Shanghai leaving tonight, Transport Minister Phil Twyford announced today. Phil Twyford says it’s crucial that trade in vital goods such as medical supplies and ...
New Zealand will temporarily remove tariffs on all medical and hygiene imports needed for the COVID-19 response. Trade and Export Growth Minister David Parker and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister Kris Faafoi said today that the New Zealand Customs Service will apply tariff concessions to all diagnostic reagents and testing ...
Minister of Finance Grant Robertson has clarified that the changes to the wage subsidy scheme announced yesterday mean that employers should be passing on the full subsidy to workers, except in the case where the person’s normal income is less than the level of the subsidy. “We still want employers ...
Medical face masks from the national reserve supply are now being distributed to District Health Boards, while at the same time local production is being ramped up. Yesterday more than 640,000 masks were sent to DHBS – that is an immediate two week supply, with more to follow in coming ...
The Government has made modifications to the wage subsidy scheme to ensure people don’t lose their jobs during the national lockdown. These changes will soften the impact of COVID-19 on workers, families and businesses, and position them to exit the lockdown and look to recovery, Finance Minister Grant Robertson says. ...
By RNZ News Social media misinformation about Covid-19 is putting Pacific communities in New Zealand at particular risk, government advisers say. The government announced a $17 million package toward building an awareness campaign in Pacific languages, as well as support for health providers. Associate Health Minister Jenny Salesa identified ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Marilyn McMahon, Deputy Dean, School of Law, Deakin University A distinctive feature of the prosecution of Cardinal George Pell is that the former choirboy who accused him of sexual abuse (known in the High Court as Complainant “A”) was regarded as a ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Darren Palmer, Associate professor, Deakin University The law on what we can and can’t do during the coronavirus outbreak is changing on an almost hourly basis. Some of what is written now might be overtaken by the shifts in the pandemic powers ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Cassandra Mudgway, Senior Lecturer in Law, Auckland University of Technology As millions of people are moving work and social interactions online to protect themselves from COVID-19, existing online safety measures may not be enough to deal with a surge in harassment and ...
Agriculture Minister Damien O’Connor says the primary sector will play a critical role in NZ’s economic recovery once the country emerges from the Covid-19 lockdown. It is the first time (at least within Point of Order’s close surveillance of the issue) that a coalition minister has acknowledged how the pandemic ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By James Doughney, Emeritus professor, Victoria University The loss of international students due to COVID-19 restrictions, and predicted second semester declines, will see universities lose between A$3 and 4.5 billion, according to Universities Australia. The higher education sector was dealt another blow this ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Brian Oliver, Research Leader in Respiratory cellular and molecular biology at the Woolcock Institute of Medical Research and Professor, Faculty of Science, University of Technology Sydney Harry Potter author JK Rowling says a breathing technique has helped her coronavirus-like respiratory symptoms, a ...
8 April 2020 This media release summarises changes to the operation of the courts entering week of COVID-19 alert level 4. It also looks ahead to how the courts will operate in the short and medium term under alert restrictions. Courts to function ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Paul Glasziou, Professor of Medicine, Bond University Should members of the public be wearing face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic? It’s a controversial question, with different countries and authorities giving different advice. We have reviewed the results of more than a dozen ...
The Government is moving to safeguard businesses from insolvency with 'safe harbour' legislation for directors’ liabilities and a business debt hibernation regime. Practically, the business debt hibernation regime will see company directors seeking ...
This Passover, we won’t be attending synagogue, we won’t be participating in large raucous dinners and sharing our food with our extended family and friends, we won’t be welcoming strangers into our homes, as Jewish people are instructed to do, writes Juliet Moses.Tonight, on what is hopefully the halfway point ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Brad Elphinstone, Lecturer in psychology., Swinburne University of Technology The same week social distancing measures were announced in Australia (March 16 – March 22), sales of game consoles leaped 285.6%. Prior to this, sales were declining month on month. We’ve also seen ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Ian Harris, Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery, UNSW As part of the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic, all elective surgeries across Australia have been temporarily cancelled. Elective surgery is non-urgent surgery people choose (elect) to have: things like cataract surgery, joint replacement, ...
Infratil and Wellington Council are preparing to lend Wellington Airport funds to help it cope with a traffic collapse because of Covid-19 restrictions, DIleepa Fonseka reports from Infratil's update to investors Wellington City Council and listed investment firm Infratil are preparing a loan to support Wellington Airport, which has seen ...
The latest in our new series of charts, graphics and data visualisations by Chris McDowall.This work is entirely funded by the generosity of The Spinoff MembersThese posts collate the most recent statistics and present them as charts and maps. The Ministry of Health typically publishes data updates in the early ...
After two weeks of lockdown, police are no longer taking "I didn't know the rules" as a valid excuse, Marc Daalder reports Two weeks into the nationwide lockdown, the police are starting to take non-compliance seriously. The number of prosecutions nearly tripled in 24 hours and 76 new breaches of ...
As the Ministry of Social Development struggles to cope with unprecedented inquiries due to Covid-19, Child Poverty Action Group is calling for the Government to fix our broken welfare system and redesign it so all New Zealanders, but particularly ...
Fijian authorities are scrambling to ensure Cyclone Harold doesn’t make the country’s Covid-19 crisis worse, Teuila Fuatai reports. As Cyclone Harold hits Fiji, authorities have issued physical distancing and sanitation guidelines for evacuation centres. Lashing rain and strong winds caused widespread flooding, power outages and damage to homes and buildings ...
The Government has announced a $88 million package to help students adjust to the new normal of learning from home Thousands of modems and internet-ready devices are being sent to households around the country, in a bid to bridge the digital divide before children resume their studies at home next ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Christine Jenkins, Professor, Respiratory Medicine, UNSW Sydney and Clinical Professor at the University of Sydney, George Institute for Global Health The new respiratory coronavirus COVID-19 is particularly worrying for the 2.7 million Australians who already suffer from asthma. That’s roughly one in ...
By Maggie Boyle of FBC News Fiji disaster authorities have put the whole of Viti Levu island on restricted movement due to TC Harold. Director for National Disaster Management Vasiti Soko confirmed the step had been taken as a precautionary measure. Soko said everyone except emergency services were to ...
By Wansolwarastaff Fiji now has 15 coronavirus cases after a single new case has been confirmed by Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama. The new case was one of 25 samples that were tested at the molecular lab and is the husband of an existing patient from Lautoka – the Zumba ...
Māori will likely make up the worst unemployment figures in the forthcoming economic recession. Things can’t go back to the way they were, writes Joshua Hitchcock.Our world has changed. While it is too early to know with any certainty what the full impact of this crisis will be on Māori, ...
‘New Zealand leads world in public perception of Covid-19 response,’ says pollster Colmar Brunton.Public support for the official New Zealand response to the Covid-19 outbreak remains high, and well ahead of the world’s richest coutries, new polling suggests.The numbers show New Zealanders’ backing for measures “far outstrips the response in ...
People waiting a week or longer for the results of their Covid-19 tests say the delays are making them anxious, even as the Government says they're nothing to worry about, Marc Daalder reports Anand Rama says the worst part wasn't the waiting, it was that he had no idea how ...
In any crisis, large or small, people usually rally round those in control so long as they convey a sense of knowing what they are doing. If those in charge lose that sense, start to waver, or are otherwise deflected, then their authority quickly starts to erode, warns Peter Dunne ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Melissa O’Donnell, Senior Research Fellow, University of Western Australia Tackling a health crisis such as COVID-19, with society in lockdown can’t help but place families under strain. It’s been reported family violence notifications to police nearly tripled in some areas of China’s ...
A new study released today by Colmar Brunton shows the public’s response to Government measures to tackle COVID-19 far outstrips the response in any of the G7 nations. The Colmar Brunton COVID Times is a study of over 600 New Zealanders surveyed from ...
Launching a new series, 60 Seconds with Siouxsie, the inimitable Dr Wiles has a few sharp words for anyone thinking they might catch up with neighbours for a drink or a chat, even at a couple of metres apart.In our first video, made possible by the support of Spinoff members, ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Sarah Bekessy, Professor in Sustainability and Urban Planning, Leader, Interdisciplinary Conservation Science Research Group (ICON Science), RMIT University Intriguing things sometimes happen in places deserted by people. Plants creep back, animals return, and slowly, birdsong fills the air. The coronavirus pandemic means ...
What’s an Ōamaru sweet maker doing giving away a product remarkably similar to the late, lamented Snifter? Amanda Thompson searches for the truth behind a minty mystery.I’m not in this for laughs, people. I’m not playing. At the time of writing, things are bad, they don’t seem to be getting ...
The Tūpuna Maunga Authority is calling for a total ban on the private sale of fireworks following the latest fire at Maungarei / Mt Wellington on Tuesday 7 April. Fire and Emergency crew in attendance advised Authority management they received reports of ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Geetanjali Saluja, Lecturer, University of Technology Sydney Governments everywhere face the challenge of getting people to stay home so they can limit the spread of coronavirus. In order to make their messages more effective, governments must ensure these appeals resonate with the ...
Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says the Government has no plans to end New Zealand’s four-week lockdown ahead of schedule, despite acknowledging there are signs the country is “starting to turn a corner” in its fight against coronavirus. Ardern’s comments came as Director-General of Health Ashley Bloomfield reported there had been ...
Source: The Conversation (Au and NZ) – By Tony Blakely, Professor of Epidemiology, University of Melbourne Australia is on track to flatten the curve of coronavirus cases, which will allow our health system to cope with increasing demand for intensive care unit (ICU) beds, recently released modelling confirms. The modelling, ...
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A frosty start to the day in Southland; clear skies, stars, the sound of waves plashing on the sand; could be worse.MfE are here today to tell us about coastal erosion and climate change. Heard of “managed retreat”?
The retreat managed to manage the perceptions around retreating?
You won’t find a more damning indictment of our middle class dominated, university obsessed education system than in this article –
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12119105
Surely we need a education system that prepares people for lifelong learning, not one that regards attending a university as the only preferred endpoint?
Lots of kids are well ready to leave school at 16. They want to get a job and get money and get out of home, and out from under someone else’s authority, and make their own way in the world.
Fine, I say. Let them leave school at 16, but keep open learning options as apprentices, night & weekend school options and generally if you want to leave formal schooling at 16 then allow you to return to learning at 19 or 21 while still working.
That would far better suit the the huge majority of young people who are particularly tempramentally, intellectually or inclined to want to go to university and slog their way through a pointless meal ticket exercise.
The older system catered for this with an ‘out’ basically at school cert level with technical schools (United etc) providing the trade start up courses.
Everyone else stayed on to university (govt funded Back then) or found something of interest and went that way. It worked a treat, supplied apprentices to building trades etc and gave kids choice if they chose to leave at 16.
But it wasn’t broken so we fixed it with the start of the great dumbing down where pass/fail seems to have given way to an attendance record and aspirational double speak.
The way that the teacher unions demand the status of white collar professionals is a megaphone that informs us of their middle class educational values and attitudes.
Middle class capture of education means an ambient bias that regards professional, white collar jobs as superior outcomes to the traditional trades and artisan jobs (panel beaters, sign writers, roofers, skilled machinery operators, etc etc) that make up the skilled engine room of the economy and can provide satisfying, fufilling and reasonably paid work for huge numbers of people.
More likely that those types of jobs are becoming obsolete.
How many panel beaters are required when it’s just a quick fix and then attach a new part that’s already the right colour?
How many sign-writers when all that’s needed is a large monitor and a PC?
Skilled machine operators?
Technological change is making more and more of the trades obsolete.
They were pretty quick to throw the manual teachers overboard. If it can’t be assessed by essay and doesn’t lead to a university lecturing position, it doesn’t matter.
Unfair, Gabby. Who threw the manual teachers overboard? They were never allowed to be NZEI members, because real old primary schools never had tech classes. Only the disastrous Intermediate schools did (I believe that opponents of the introduction of Intermediate schools back in the 1950s were quite correct) because they (Int schools) introduced wood/metalwork + sewing/cooking classes, but the weird teachers who did it were not NZEI – they were PPTA members of the secondary schools’ union, because all the other tech teachers in NZ were. Consequently they never had any representation in the primary schools’ union.
Later PPTA could not protect them either, because new industrial law (1980s, 1990s) prohibited unions from taking action in support of other unions. NZEI and PPTA negotiated at different times, able to take industrial action at different times. So when Tommorrow’s Schools gave primary and intermediate schools autonomy to some extent through bulk funding (be aware that all schools are still bulk-funded for their Operations Grants: bulk funding was abolished ONLY for teachers’ salaries.)
Bulk funding is aimed at underfunding, and when that happened to intermediate schools, the pressure came on.
It was the neo-liberal Govts who threw those manual teachers overboard, Gabby. Secondary schools are now dangerously short of them too, but the secondary manual teachers still there were not thrown overboard. OK?
Sanctuary (replying to 2.1.1)
Have you ever been a teacher? If yes, what horrible experience perverted your view of teacher unions? 80%+ of teachers belong to those unions, and you are vilifying all of us.
Idiot. Do you think that none of us understand history, the bourgeois, the bias, and that we aim for middle-class comforts?
I find you shallow and insulting. I hope that you can modify your comment and explain.
I long held the belief (reinforced by my time as a teacher), back in the days before Rogernomics fucked up this country, that all kids should be endowed at birth with say 16 years of free education, the first 10 or 11 years to be compulsory.
This would have meant kids free to leave school at 16 and go into the workforce. Some, however, would soon realise they had made a mistake and would want to return to education – and could do so with the 4 or 5 years they were still entitled to.
They could then go to polytechs or universities to upgrade their skill, with few financial consequences.
But then along came Roger et al . . .
I would love to see a system whereby after, say, 25-30 years in employment any person can take a 12 month sabbatical at 80% of their wage averaged over the previous five years (with a cap of course) to do any sort of (state approved) training they wish whatsoever. Thus, if a middle aged manager wants to spend a year learning to, say, be a beekeeper or live in Latin country and learn Spanish, this would be allowed – and at 80% of their previous wage.
I’ve come to the conclusion that people should do a few years in work and follow that with a few years in uni. The first uni course will get them a bachelor degree. After that they start doing research landing them doctorates. The time in work would be to give them actual physical experience on which to base their next cycle of research.
And how did you arrive at the conclusion…
On behalf of other ‘people’…
Because it’s what’s necessary in a democracy to improve the nation’s living standard while also living within our very limited means. Same as compulsory voting is also necessary so as to ensure people engage in their own governance.
Uneducated people are detrimental to democracy and not investigating everyone’s ideas limits the innovation needed to improve everyone’s living standards.
As I’ve said to you before, Draco…
You are strong in certain areas (e.g 3.5.1.2.1.1)…..this is not one of them…
Authoritarian ideals …. nah!
Australia has a system of long service leave, I think its more 3 -4 months rather than 12.
https://www.fairwork.gov.au/how-we-will-help/templates-and-guides/fact-sheets/minimum-workplace-entitlements/long-service-leave
“Long service leave forms part of the National Employment Standards (NES). The NES apply to all employees covered by the national workplace relations system, regardless of any award, agreement or contract.”
Sanctuary +100
That is exactly what we need but it’s not solely the fault of the education system. Parents as well have been telling their children forever to Get and education, get a job and you’re right for life. This was bollocks in the 1970s and it’s even more so now as technological changes eliminate ever more jobs. We need to get everyone into continual learning but especially those that haven’t yet achieved tertiary education.
Most, if not all, universities allow entrance if the person is over 20 even if they don’t have any high-school qualifications. The problem is that our entire socio-economic system effectively discourages people from getting that ongoing education.
Why should lifelong learning involve lifelong institutionalisation draccy?
Because for most people the best way to learn about a discipline is to learn from someone who’s been studying the field for years, and to learn alongside other people who are also learning about the subject so you can exchange ideas and aid each other’s learning.
Sure, you might find a club to get that sort of environment, but educational institutions have an important part to play.
Personally I think all education should be free from cradle to the grave, with no limits on when to start a new course.
Well said.
If someone with a degree can’t be paid handsomely for teaching it, it’s just not worth knowing flockers.
And yet I can’t help wondering whether the guy who allegedly put oxygen and acetylene in the same bottle the other day had received formal welding training or was largely self-taught. Poor bugger.
I’ve had a small artistic hobby for years now. I learn a lot on youtube, I read a lot, get lots of ideas from all around the place. Most of my pinterest pins are all about it. I own pretty much all the equipment I need for it. I’m ok – not brilliant, but these days I can largely make pretty much what I set out to make (albeit with room for improvement).
But I still pay for regular evening classes at the art school. Because the structure and environment suit me, and it’s good to have fellow people learning the same skills to bounce ideas off.
I just don’t get that online, or doing it alone.
@ McFlock (2.4.1.1) … 100+ cheers to all you have said in your post 🙂
A thought not at all influenced from being kicked out of school for asking questions, but I’ve long been of the persuasion that young people should be strongly dissuaded from seeking jobs or formal education for some five years or so after leaving school.
Five years to breath and experience before getting on the dread mill?
Against the grain, I know, but I’m persuaded we destroy one another by insisting we go from school to job to grave – with maybe a little breather between work and grave.
Yes Bill, agreed.
If you ask anyone, ‘What are you?’ or similar questions, they will invariably answer ‘a plumber, a teacher a . . .’ the job they do. They should, in an ideal world say, ‘I’m an educated and enlightened human being who has a lot of empathy for my fellows . . .’ or something along those lines.
We are defined by the jobs we do, as if this is the be all and end all of life.
The world is running out of time, but it would be good if everyone could have the opportunity to be whatever they wanted to be.
Yes just earn enough to travel, work, experience life sort of on the bread-mill, and this shouldn’t go against the grain of thoughtful government planners.
Yes , Bill
Strongly disuaded relies on a point of view…
As you say, it’s about leaving bias aside to the best possible levels…before passing on ‘knowledge and experience’ … that is inadequate or incorrect for the recipient…
In order to achieve such a level requires substantial self awareness…
At face value there is a dearth of self awareness in the general populace…
Ever descending circles…
“the dread mill”
Beautiful!
Way way back in the neolithic age before we had expensive telepathic stones*, when I was 17, I did a year out working after 7th form.
3 months doing night shift in a factory. 6 months on a town supply dairy farm, 5 months on sheep station in Taupo, and 3 months army as a territorial after I turned 18.
Was damn useful because it gave a whole.pile of discrimination about things that I didn’t want to do It also got me out from underfoot at home.
Then I went to university at Waikato because it wasn’t Auckland and living costs were way lower. I also became a underage barman, part time soldier, and fell in love with playing multi user star trek late at night on the DEC 1170 (it was 1979).
That year off working was incredibly valuable.
* As good a description of cellphones and tablets as any.
Finding out what you don’t want to do and also what you actually want to do is important. IMO, most people are ‘unsuccessful’ because they never do find out and never have the opportunity to do so.
Neoliberal New Zealand.
Sold to the highest foreign bidder.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12119118
This sort of transaction is fundamentally wrong and by the time most people realise this it will be too late.
Local body politicians have too much authority to dispose of, or take on projects that cost much. They are often businessmen who have been able to crry out their interest successfully and then take on the role of handling the everyday business of a large entity whether city or region with diverse needs and are then at the top level of their aptitude and knowledge related in Peters Principle, ie they have reached their level of incompetence.
Participatory democracy must start being applied immediately. General competence must be withdrawn from local government and they be obliged to go through more complex levels of examination of scenarios involving big money or letting go of resources, or building of them. This would start off by answering what are the long-term effects of this? Is the body’s expressed vision the actual likely one from what is observed elsewhere and by viewing the possibility of misadventure from weather, low tenders and skimping of quality etc.
What jobs will be lost, how many people and animals will be disadvantaged by this, and for short term or likely permanent? What expenditure on remediation and repair is set aside? Double that figure to get true cost and where is this money to come from? What advantage to the region and to jobs? What profit arises to the buyer? How and when will they
want this profit realised? What demands will be made on the public of the region to enable the entity to realise their profit? Will they employ local people in the running of their business?
Then when all these are dealt with under a number of separate headings, the business people or=f the region, the public who have formed groups to study the matters under each heading, will be called to detail their findings to a series of meetings. Decisions will be made and anecdotes and experience in other areas be related as to the viability of the proposal, and its likely outcome and advantage. The ratepayers will be given figures showing the long as well as the short term effects on their rate levels and satisfactory services they require, ie navigable roads, clean water, sewage properly disposed of etc.
Then there are meetings held, reports in the local newspaper with facts, and information about scenarios elsewhere in the country and applicable overseas ones. Then a referendum of all local citizens with five years’ residence which would be binding if 75% reached for or against, and if carried out to legal requirements .
That would limit the lure of $ in eyeballs effect by citizens elected to office, who have never given thought to anything but their private interests before. The OIO does not and can not, consider matters from a ‘coalface’ point of view, but the residents can, and the really alert and able ones can learn what needs to be considered, losses and gains, and be leaders in discussing the facts of the matter with their peers, being all the adults in the area, and then all can vote from a roll of those having 5 year residency.
“Local body politicians have too much authority”
Hey! I’m one of those 🙂
You aren’t just – A local body politician, you are The very model of a local body politician.
I am the very model of a [local body politician]
I’ve information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;[a]
I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I’m teeming with a lot o’ news, (bothered for a rhyme)
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
The community owning the asset made the decision to sell and retire debt.
Fortunately, anonymous internet bedwetter’s don’t get a say.
Joe90
Are you callinmg me an anonymous bedwetter Yes or no.
Why do you care if he is? His opinion should have little impact on you.
Gosman
Joe90 is not you. His opinions are worth something, unlike your meanderings through the forest looking for juicy berries to bite at.
Actually joe90 would not be wrong – I am anonymous and I am (almost) a bedwetter, having a tendency to be incontinent. Lack of muscle tone from sitting too long at the keyboard is possibly part of the problem. It’s time perhaps to do more muscle toning and improve the body and less mind and word-wrestling.
So his opinion about your bedwetting status does matter to you.
My post is threaded 3.2, not 3.1.1.1.
Why was a council involved in this activity to begin with?
Because it’s better for society than having a private business do it.
https://screenshots.firefox.com/7Jj2e5NkVD8Ljuwr/www.whanganui.govt.nz
They should sell cutting rights not the land to reduce debt.
You don’t get a say in what my community does, or doesn’t do with their own assets.
Neither do you joey.
Thanks for ripping off the kids there, Joe with short term thinking.
When the Natz sold off significant parts of power generation companies less than a decade ago, guess what, they got less from the sale than they would have earned from dividends already, so now we don’t have that income for the country to run our schools and hospitals or future income for next generations. The right wingers are financial idiots.
But Merryl Lynch apparently did well out of it.
See this blast from the past,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_National_Government_of_New_Zealand
Economic[edit]
The Government was elected in the context of the late 2000s recession.
The Fifth Labour Government’s Emissions Trading Scheme was delayed and the Emissions Trading Scheme Review Committee was set up to review the New Zealand Emissions Trading Scheme[4] in accordance with the coalition agreement with the ACT Party.[5] In November 2009, an amended version of the New Zealand Emissions Trading Scheme was adopted.[6]
Personal tax cuts, reducing taxes on all income; the top personal tax rate was lowered from 39% to 38% and then 33%.[7]
Abolished the Loss Attributing Qualifying Company (LAQC) tax structure, which had allowed individuals (mainly property investors) to reduce their individual income tax by off setting their LAQCs losses (the Look-through company structure replaced LAQCs, but without the tax benefits).
Increased GST from 12.5% to 15% in October 2010.
Increased the minimum wage from $12.00 per hour to $13.00 per hour in its first term, and to $14.25 in its second term.[8] This represents a nominal 3.1% average annual increase, significantly lower than the previous government’s nominal 7.9% annual average increase.
Suspended payments to the New Zealand Superannuation Fund.[9]
Introduced the nine-day working fortnight for businesses who were considering laying off staff.
Capped the minimum employers’ contributions to KiwiSaver at 2%, the amount was due to increase to 4% by 2011 and gave employees the option to contribute as little as 2% of their income to KiwiSaver where previously the smallest contribution amount was 4%. The minimum employee and minimum employer contributions were raised to 3% in April 2013.
Introduced the “mixed ownership model” plan, in which the Government planned to reduce its share in Genesis Energy, Meridian Energy, Mighty River Power and Solid Energy from 100% to 51% and Air New Zealand from 74% to 51%, and sell off the remainder. The plans to sell down Solid Energy were later axed due to the company’s poor financial position. A citizens-initiated referendum on the sell-downs returned a 67.3% vote in opposition (on a turnout of 45.1%).
Ultra-Fast Broadband rollout of fibre to the house to 87% of households
Seven Roads of National Significance
I made my submission.
That was all you joey?
Wonder if the council actually asked the public if they could sell off that land?
$13m may sound like a lot but ongoing income from an actual council forestry operation would have been better for the council and for the local region.
+100 ED, Grey Area, Greywarshark, Draco
-100 Joe90
Council and future ratepayers were earning money off that land and trees (incredibly high returns at present plus if we have to axe the plastic, will be worth even more, plus potential carbon credits), plus if the council ever needs land in the future for growth they already own land, that earns them money and capital gains.
Pity our kids and anyone who is retired in the area who are going to have to sort out the mess when our councils and country is bankrupt with idiot short term thinkers and our government and councils have killed the golden gooses.
A majority of ratepayer submissions to the proposed 2015 – 2025 plan supported the sale.
Public land should be considered a long term asset, not something to be sold and benefit a few for a quick buck, while future needs are not going to be able to be met or it is going to be a lot more expensive to buy a bit back later. They should be forced to consider generational costs not forcing future costs onto the young to sort out the messes so they get cheaper rates for a few years (which they probably won’t anyway).
The thickos at Auckland council for example accidentally sold a bit of the rail access in Auckland according to a local who was complaining about it, which is why they are not using the existing rail line that runs from Helensville right through Kumeu and to the city and could be used now. Instead Auckland rail’s “bright” idea is forcing a massive detour to Swanson in proposed plans and completely new rail options in that area for billions. Doh! Plus they ordered trains that don’t fit thought the tunnel. Oh well, the rate payers will have to pay.
Bought to you by the same council and Natz government that forced planning changes to have 10 acre sections go into 600m2 in Kumeu with thousands of million dollar spec houses being built and only have one, one lane road running through… then wonder why NZ productivity is so low and they can only attract migrants who have little education and no other country will take them or don’t bother working here but plant questionable money here as gold bricks or plan their route to OZ.
But did the majority of people support it?
Or was it just the majority of business people?
A majority of those who bothered to make a submission. My view was that we should retire debt rather than own an asset of dubious value, poor soils on steep/marginal terrain, growing third rate soft wood with limited uses, whose future earnings were dependent on the whims of a global timber market.
So, just a minority then.
We’re not supposed to be ruled by a minority.
1. The income from the land would have retired the debt
2. According to the article the project proved the feasibility
3. We actually need more wood in NZ to build houses
And do the general public in a catchment area really understand what the factors of concern are concerning the sale of the forest –
Lack of control over workers safety.
Over local employment.
Over access to forest or not when suitable.
Over care for maintaining fire breaks.
Over provision of roading when there is a cut.
Over paying share of fire levy for services.
Over lack of concern for evidence of fire (government used to maintain high watching posts in the fire season.)
Over the access for getting pine cones and clearing slash
for fuel and who is responsible for this (can be handy fund raiser for
local groups who control access reliably.)
Is there opportunity for small local trucking operation
carting slash to wood processor?
Is there opportunity to get work trimming lower braches to provide fine logs with better quality vertical wood and less knots, galls?
Can the forest be sold off by Council in bits over a period when the price is right and then replanted there by locals quickly to avoid erosion?
Can the cutting be chosen carefully so that erosion areas near water courses are left standing?
Can the wood be sold locally at a competitive but reasonable price
for local use?
These sort of matters need to be spelt out and discussed, rather than a general feeling of let’s get the debts down. Keeping and selling some cutting rights to locals or nearby mills would keep money flowing in for infrastructure expenditure.
Their own wood itself could be used direct for some local infrastructure.
And there would be more matters than i have raised. I would be pleasantly surprised if all these points have been thoroughly canvassed at public meetings – it would take more than one.
And the financial advantages of different proposals say – four at most would be interesting. Money now and no resource later along with extra costs for providing usable roads and trying to meet people’s needs for clean air and some break from rattling roaring trucks 7 days a week for months should be thought about.
They are having trouble near Whangarei where there is large felling. Peoples houses are eternally coated with dust inside, they are getting asthma, they can’t use the road as once, the children get dusty while they wait for the school bus, the bus gets squeezed to the side, when it wants to stop and pick up kids it can be difficult, the trucks are rather scary as they go past with their high loads,
Lots to consider; more than just money now, debt drop. And the continuing noise and problem is so different to the regular farm and area noise.
‘nature’ is recognised as one of the most prestigious and most cited scientific journals in the world.
When ‘nature’ takes Australia and Australian political leadership to task, then you know that there is a problem.
In 2015 UN General Secretary Ban Ki Moon called for a one day government leaders summit in New York leading up to the COP 21 Paris agreement.
Moon made it clear that he didn’t want Deputy Leaders or Foreign Ministers or Climate Change Spokespersons. He wanted Government leaders. Moon knew that having the leaders turn up would be symbolic of a government and a nation’s commitment to address climate change.
The Australian Prime MInister of the time, Tony Abbot, refused to go.
Current Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison has repeated this snub, for the Pacific Forum.
“Global warming tops the agenda as climate brings down a third Australian prime minister”
nature
International Journal of Science Editorial – September 4, 2018
There you have it, climate and refugees.
All power to our Prime Minister under much different personal circumstances for taking the bold and decisive action necessary to get there. She is a real leader.
None of the simpering ‘Fast Follower’ John Key or cowardly Morrison ducking for cover.
Morrison won’t turn up. Pacific Nations are suffering some of the worst affects of climate change on the planet. (so is Australia, but that is another can of worms).
A real leader leads from the front, and is not a ‘fast follower’ like John Key, or stay at home coward like Scott Morrison.
They make the difficult decisions and make the effort to turn up.
On climate Australia is a major global foot dragger, on refugees Australia is the puppet master behind the scenes in Nauru that saw one of this country’s top reporters detained for doing her job.
Australia is imperiously beginning to treat New Zealand as they treat they think that they can treat the other Pacific islands.
My prayer is that our Prime Minister takes up the leadership role on the world stage abdicated by Australia on both climate change and justice for refugees.
I pray that Prime Minister Ardern uses the platform given to her to issue a joint statement rallying the Pacific nations of our region to demand that the Australian leader and government live up to their responsibilities on climate change indifference to human rights and refugee cruelty.
As the nature Editorial says:
It is our role as smaller Pacific countries to try and make Australia live up to that historic task.
We can’t do it without them.
Last time I read Nature it was full of PC-politics, and flag-waving for free-market-democracy. Quickly becoming Just another rag, owned by the capital market, majority owned by Springer, which is majority owned by private equity firm BC Partners.
Are you saying that what Nature has been quoted as saying is wrong? It may be open to being swayed by financial interests but surely this is right to state,
and it stands repeating:
And the statement below is obviously true, and if we keep our minds on what is true, broadcast correctly and offering a clear path for us to follow to work for effective timely action, we should stick to the path even if it is paved by financiers and self-centred entities, which for a while we can agree and combine with;
“Things can change quickly in politics, and Australia has a chance to force that change.”
From what I can see the PM has decided she should not berate the Australian government in public. Her last experience over the Manus refugeees seems to have sheeted that message home.
So whatever the PIF does in their joint statement there won’t be any direct or indirect criticism of Australia on any issue. Not going to happen on refugees given the PIF is in Nauru, and probably bromides on climate change. Maybe a climate adjustment fund paid for by Aus and NZ.
Ardern should demand that the current Oz government start legislating in accord with the view of most Australian voters, in order to prevent representative democracy from losing credibility.
“The annual Lowy Institute Poll on Australian attitudes to the world and global issues for 2018 has been released. Among a series of interesting findings, one thing is clear: support for climate action and renewable energy continue to grow. In response to the survey’s questions on climate and energy, 59% of respondents agreed with the statement: “climate change is a serious and pressing problem. We should begin taking steps now even if this involves significant costs.”
https://theconversation.com/lowy-institute-poll-shows-australians-support-for-climate-action-at-its-highest-level-in-a-decade-98625
Dennis
I am sure you know that governments don’t demand that other government should start legislating on the basis of opinion polls. Ardern is not going to tell Australia how it should govern. She seems to have well and truly learnt that lesson
I know it seems to be the expectation on this site that the New Zealand will give all our close partners lectures on how they should run their countries, but Ardern is a PM, not a political activist.
I hope she hasn’t learnt that lesson, Wayne. Moral leadership is not only required nowadays in practical politics, it will actually be a pre-requisite to the consensus politics of survival for humanity during climate change.
But I share your scepticism inasmuch as she keeps presenting as merely a neoliberal manager of govt. To leave her mark on history, she will have to do much more than just that. She will have to lead a transformational government. One that has consequences on the global stage, not just here. Western statesmen have been conspicuous in their absence since Vaclav Havel. Could be an indicator that western stateswomen are emerging?
Not surprised – the orange roadcone-overcomb is out of options – slippery slope time and many more shockers to come.
“The dramatic and previously untold scene is recounted in Fear, a forthcoming book by Bob Woodward that paints a harrowing portrait of the Trump presidency, based on in-depth interviews with administration officials and other principals.”
https://i.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/106829020/bob-woodwards-new-book-reveals-a-nervous-breakdown-of-trumps-presidency
Cohn stole letters off Trump’s desk before he had signed them and Trump never even noticed they had gone. 😯
Cray Cray town
Sing it Gnarls Barkley
Yes Trump is unhinged; we always suspected this. But the reasons why he is POTUS are far less crazy than he is.
Some insight can be gleaned here: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/106833345/hate-is-the-name-of-the-game-in-trump-world-bob-woodwards-new-book-reveals
Stuff reckons “Hate is the name of the game in Trump World”. Author of the review (PAUL WALDMAN ) reckons contempt is the name of the game, and provides the evidence to prove him right. Yet Woodward’s book is entitled Fear to inform us that he & his publisher have a third differing opinion.
We can only marvel at Trump’s ability to confuse everyone else all the time. Whether fear, contempt or hate is a better diagnosis of the political culture he generates, it is, as I mentioned here several weeks ago, social darwinism. Playing all against all, he ensures that only the most fit survive.
Imagine working for the prick. It’d be like:
“look on the bright side Mr POTUS, an orange jump suit matches your complexion and hair. We’ll arrange a hood for you.”
“Your red scarf matches my eyes……..
Loving you has made me babanas”
Fuck what a thicket of dysfunction! There goes the leader of the free Whurl.
The concern is that much of it has rubbed off – including in lil ole NuZull
Must be about time the govt re entered the negotiating room, with an offer better than 2% p.a. (i.e the rate of inflation) otherwise IMO they are just continuing on from the previous govt, and continuing to be part of the problem !!
“”Schools around the country have reported increasing difficulty finding relieving teachers over the last three years.”
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12119342
Not just an offer of 2%
“”To attract new teachers the offer will see a cumulative increase of14.7 per cent to base salaries for graduates with a teaching degree ($47,980 to $55,030) over three years, and a 14.2 per cent cumulative increase for graduates with a subject degree and graduate teaching diploma ($49,588 to $56,638) over three years.
“Teachers on the next steps (6-11) will see a cumulative increase of between 6.5 to 13.7 per cent to base salaries over three years. Teachers on the maximum step (12) will receive a cumulative increase of 6.1 per cent over three years ($75,949 to $80,599.)”
Its only 2% per year for those on the maximum step. When you look at the actual amounts it was $4500 over 3 years for top of scale and $7000 for new teachers
Apparently not just the teachers have shortages, apparently record amounts of GP’s are due to retire and new doctors are being “encouraged” to have 50% go into being a GP’s and there is predicted to be a shortage.
I’m not so sure it is shortages, but more they have rapidly increased NZ population artificially and in demographics that really impact teachers and doctors and then expect the existing professionals to just work harder… very Rogernomics thinking.
The question also is, why are they having difficulty attracting teachers in the first place or why are they are leaving? I think with teachers it is Dukeofurl comment down (8.2) that hits the nail on the head – too many positions are not guaranteed long term.
Also in NZ the whole system has become too adversarial and so many industries are allowed to rip people off (construction, utilities, councils, food, insurance ) that the cost of living is sky high and people expect to be able to do more than survive, but actually have a decent standard of living if they are in professional jobs.
So what % of teachers are on the top pay scale either with a degree or diploma ?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11867471
That is partly why teachers in their fifties or older have increased from 35 per cent of teachers in 2005 to 41 per cent a decade later.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/01/half-of-all-high-school-teachers-quit-within-5-years.html
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12106964
For me this is why the govt is standing firm “..plus a further $200m or so when it flows through to secondary teachers who lodged their own pay claims last week..”
Part of the problem is that government seem to just write off young Kiwis and not want to encourage them into teaching so therefore you are not getting enough of the people who would be good teachers wanting to do that.
The newish board of trustees system also means they technically ‘hire teachers” so you are getting more of a cultural bias into whatever the board wants as teachers, and the board are not in the teaching profession themselves.
Same has happened with building as soon as they made tertiary about user pays and high fees they automatically encouraged people to go for a career that was considered more financially rewarding.
Teaching should be a high status profession, but somehow they have wrecked that in the last 30 years.
To go into the trades, you used to be paid to do it on the job by industry, not spend time and a lot of money on your education and paperwork for years. They need to get the people in, THEN get them to study and register after a few years of practical paid work under their belts.
Warning – long and detailed but contains some primer points on how things get on the Order Paper for debate in Parliament and what could be an interesting situation in the House today re a Member’s Bill due to be debated probably late afternoon. Also possibly relates to Peters’ current grumpiness and his remarks re refugees vis a vis the Coalition agreement.
Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill (aka Waka Jumping Bill)
This is the first week back to the House in the ‘four weeks on/ two weeks off’ House sitting calendar and for addicts like me it is interesting to see what is on the debating programme for each session.
Of particular interest to me (and possibly very few others except possibly Micksavage and Dennis Frank LOL) was whether the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill – aka the waka jumping bill – would make it back into the House this week. From looking at the Order paper for yesterday and progress made, and today’s Order Paper, the answer is very unlikely. Actually ‘No’ is probably more accurate and may well be intentional.
This Bill went through its Second Reading and half of its Committee stages during the week of 7 – 9 August including under extended hours on the morning of Thurs 9 August, but then lost prominence in the last week of that four week sitting session when the National Animal Identification and Tracing (NAIT) Amendment Act was pushed through under urgency in the week of 14 – 16 August .
[NOTE: the make up and placement of Government Bills on each day’s Order Paper is solely at the discretion of the Government (Standing Order 68). OTOH Member‘s Bills appear on the Order Papers for Members‘ Days in accordance with a strict priority set by Standing Orders 71 and 72. and cannot be rearranged by the Government, Speaker etc. Private and Local Bills are similarly governed by Standing Orders 69 and 70.]
http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/00HOHPBReferenceStOrders20171/7868e924149435f4cb3c6e00cfc63ec498a39b37
Yesterday’s Order Paper (4/9/2018) showed the continuation of the Committee stages of this ‘waka jumping bill’ back down to No 11 on the list of Government Bills. Nine other Government Bills were listed for First, Second or Third Readings taking up a total of up to 13½ hours of debating time allocated to the usual set maximum number of 12 X 10 minute speeches (2 hours) for each Reading.
Normally these nine Readings could take up to 18 hours but the first Reading of one Bill started in the previous sitting session had only 90 minutes of speeches left, and three of the Bills (Nos 7 – 9) were being taken together. Following these Bills, at No 10 was the Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa NZ) Amendment Bill set down for Committee stages which are not limited in terms of time or number of speeches. As National’s current MO is to filibuster every Bill at all stages, but particular at the Committee stages, this Bill is likely to take some time.
http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/OrderPaper_20180904/b131016772ec5be085794488af075758fc7a5b55
A normal week in Parliament involves the House sitting from 2pm – 6pm and 7.30pm -10pm each Tues and Weds and from 2pm – 6pm only on Thursday – a total of 17 hours. Each day, Question Time takes up about one hour, and every Wednesday the General Debate following Question Time is assigned one hour a total of four hours, leaving 13 hours for the House to debate Bills, etc in a normal three day sitting week where the House does not invoke extended hours or urgency.
Every fourth week is also meant to be a Members’ Day on the Wednesday – allowing 4½ hours for the debating of Member’s Bills (and Private and Local Bills), further reducing the time for debating Government Bills to 8½ hours in those weeks. However, this is sometimes changed depending on what else is being debated – eg Budget debates and similar override Members’ days.
Today is a Members Day as set down on the Order Paper, thereby further reducing the possibility of the waka jumping Bill surfacing again this week.
http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-NZ/OrderPaper_20180905/936f574159293616ec308aa6f7837e17e7746ab3
Yesterday, the House moved through the first three Government Bills on yesterday’s Order Paper more quickly than the maximum time allowed, meaning they were halfway through No 4 on the list when the House rose at 10pm. This time saving was offset by the House undertaking an Urgent Debate called for by Simon Bridges on the removal of Clare Curran from Cabinet taking just over an hour. (As an aside, over 15 mins of that time was Bridges floundering around, which led to the next speaker, Chris Hipkins, calling Bridges’ speech “the longest 15 minutes in Bridges’ life” and Bridges being “two snappers short of a resignation”. LOL.)
Together with today’s Members Day, this means that the only time left for debating Government Bills this week is about two hours tomorrow, Thursday, after Question Time before the House rises at 6pm.
Today’s Order Paper has also introduced four other Government Bills to replace the three Bills that passed their Readings yesterday ahead of the waka jumping Bill which is now back down to No 12. These are at Nos 1, 5, 6 and 10 on today’s Order Paper. Although these Bills will not come up today being a Members Day, in theory the set time Readings of the eight Bills before the waka jumping bill could take up to a maximum of 10 ½ hours plus three Bills now up for their Committee stages debates of no maximum time. Against only two hours available tomorrow.
So bye bye waka jumping bill for this week at least, unless there are further changes to tomorrow’s Order Paper – highly unlikely IMO. If any, they may well push it further down the pecking order.
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Member’s Bill (Rino Tirikatene) – Electoral (Entrenchment of Maori Seats) Amendment Bill
HOWEVER – there is another Electoral Amendment Bill on today’s Order Paper that will be rather controversial and probably will not make it through to Select Committee consideration.
This is the Electoral (Entrenchment of Maori Seats) Amendment Bill sponsored by Rino Tirikatene intended to align the Maori seats with general electorate seats which are already entrenched under section 268 of the Electoral Act 1993. More information is provided in the Explanatory Note in the Bill.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/member/2018/0056/latest/whole.html#DLM4333801
The First Reading of this Bill is now at No 2 in the order of Members’ Bills and set down for 12 X 10 minute speeches today. The Member’s Bill at No 1 is only set down for 35 mins maximum debate, so taking into account Question Time and the one hour General Debate, Tirikatene’s Bill should pop up for debate about 4.30pm or thereabouts and continue after the dinner break.
When this Bill was pulled out of the biscuit tin ballot back in May 2018 this raised Winston Peters’ blood pressure in view of NZF’s longstanding policy to call for a referendum on the continuation of the Maori seats. He made it clear at the time that NZF will not be supporting this Bill.
Peters’ blood pressure is probably up again with this up for debate today even though if NZF vote against the Bill with National, this Bill will not make it past this First Reading to Select Committee and will die on a Vote of Ayes 54 (L/GP) vs Noes 65 (NZF/Nats) with ACT being an unknown if Seymour votes at all. The latter seems to be his MO at present in many cases.
To avoid this defeat and the further opportunity for claims that the Coalition Govt is in disarray etc, Tirikatene could withdraw or postpone the Bill under Standing Order 74(1)(b) thereby removing it from debate today. In fact, I am surprised it hasn’t been. But then again, maybe an opportune time for it to be debated while both Ardern and Peters are out of the country.
I wonder in fact whether the fact that Peters’ much wanted Electoral Integrity Bill/ waka jumping Bill is not progressing as fast as he wants coupled with the unfortunate coincidence of Titikatene’s entrenchment of the Maori seats Bill coming up for debate today (though the strict Standing Orders mentioned above) has contributed to, or is the cause of, his grumpiness at present, including his challenging remarks etc re refugee numbers. After all , this is politics …and sometimes not dissimilar to chess……
I’m not inclined to see the grumpy old man syndrome as evidence of substantial disagreement, but you could be right that Labour & NZF haven’t reached consensus on refugee policy. Understandable that media seize on apparent discord like a pitbull trying to extricate meat from a body: it’s their industrial process at work.
Just needs govt leader or deputy to say the magic words: ” we haven’t agreed a govt policy on refugee numbers yet”, doesn’t it?
You seem to be missing the point. My post is more about these two Electoral Amendment Bills much more than about the refugee issues.
As you say, the PM and/or the DPM could just say that they have not agreed a govt policy on refugee numbers yet, but they haven’t. Instead Peters has stood his ground on the NZF policy on no increase etc and obviously had not consulted the PM on his intention to do so. Hence my grumpy old man remark (and I have called him that to his face years ago in jest when I had a lot to do with him while working on secondments to Parliament. LOL)
His remarks and the PM’s reaction are not a good look, but I do understand that NZF need to maintain their base conservative policies to maintain their voting core constituency – as is discussed under the post on Winston and the refugees issue by mickysavage.
My point is that last week was a bit of a bumpy one and this week is looking a little so too, so the coincidence of these two Electoral Amendment Bills appearing on the Order Paper at the same time tends to give the perception of more dissonance.
As I said, Peters is very keen to get the waka jumping Bill through, but is opposed in principle to the Tirikatene Member’s Bill to entrench the Maori seats as this is very much against a longstanding NZF policy which they campaigned on to hold a referendum on whether or not the Maori seats should continue. The Tirikatene Bill is to resolve a longstanding technicality which could be left for the moment without any real consequences – in the interests of not raising the preception of more disharmony.
Here is what Peters said back in May when the Tirikatene Bill was drawn in the ballot.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/08/nz-first-may-back-entrenchment-of-m-ori-seats-if-there-s-a-referendum-first.html
As I also now see, I am not alone in thinking this and I/S has called it on NRT ” … a potential flashpoint in the coalition …” ie
http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2018/09/members-day.html
BUT wait there is more … Did I mention chess?
I have just found this article re Peters may support Tirikatene’s Bill – if there is a referendum on retaining the Maori seats first.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/08/nz-first-may-back-entrenchment-of-m-ori-seats-if-there-s-a-referendum-first.htm
Perhaps there has been agreement after all. We only have a few hours to wait.
And it appears that Bridges will not be in the House today, as Bennett is fronting Question No 1 to the PM. With both Peters and Ardern away, who is the Acting PM today?
ADDENDUM – And Seymour actually does have a position on the Maori seats. He wants to abolish them or so it seems. The whole thing is getting even more interesting.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/08/david-seymour-says-wants-to-abolish-m-ori-seats-but-will-he-actually-be-able-to.html
I appreciate your explanations, just saw no need to comment! Hard to tell if they are brokering deals behind the scenes when necessary, of course, as we would expect, to ensure successful governance. If that basic process has been suspended, or has not yet re-engaged after the return of the PM due to scheduling difficulties, some irritation would be natural…
Posted this previously, a few mates of mine sons are currently training to be a builder (A much needed skill) all 3 of them currently have had their son’s in their 3rd or 4th building coys as they proceed thru their apprenticeships. Why is that because they have been placed on contracts not wages, and as work loads for the builders they have been under reduced they are “let go”
In the “old days” apprectices did their time with 1 coy and were waged staff.
The building industry IMO cannot complain about skill shortages and then not have a system that allows ease to obtain the qualifications. It appears much less stress to allow off shore workers to make up for any shortfalls.
Try google and search building apprentices in Auckland the results are to me alarming. There are none
You are 100% right Herodotus.
What you have to wonder, is when it is so obvious, why does the government seem so obsessed with doing the opposite and then wringing their hands and/or ignoring poverty, lack of housing, lack of job opportunities for many including school leavers, massive infrastructure costs being forced onto locals instead of business and shoddy workmanship?
Its because of Employment Contracts Act that short term contracts became the norm in building , even for qualified builders.
Is happening in Teaching now as well. Those Schools saying they cant get decent applicants are not saying the job they are offering isnt a staff position but is a contact for a year or so which ‘may’ be renewed. Especially affects those teachers starting out.
Yep, how can you buy a house (or even rent one now) when you don’t know whether you will have a job or not each year and you might be forced to relocate without much notice to get a new job.
Although to be fair to ministry, a lot of 1 year contracts is because of maternity leave.
I understood it was a way of ‘trying out’ new teachers
I think it is more than that – It is even happening across the ditch – my daughter who has an MA (Hons) and BSc (Hons) and masses of other relevant experience coupled with about 7 years teaching experience simply cannot get a permanent teaching position – and it is not just her – It applies to almost all her colleagues . The jobs being offered are all one year contracts because the schools want to be “flexible” in their staffing requirements. As school rolls go up and down like a yo-yo these days (as they fall in and out of popularity) the school can off load or recruit staff more easily. There is little loyalty to staff these days no matter how dedicated they are.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/books/106800942/PM-Jacinda-Ardern-Clarke-Gayford-and-baby-Neve-star-in-new-kids-book?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Whenever I think the media have hit peak Jacinda something else comes along…this must be what lefties felt like when Sir John Key was in full swing 🙂
Yes Chris 73, jacinda beating key at his own game. And although I don’t like it, I am all for jacinda using opportunities like this to counteract the negative spin from msm about labour.
All the bs from garner, soper et al about the cost of jacindas trip tp Nauru. Ffs were any of them outraged by bridges limo use?
Just as a matter of interest, what made you a righty?
Have you been one since adolescence?
Not being stupid would have a lot to do with it
I like being clean and smelling clean so I had no other choice but to vote right and, if taking it a step further, my sense of smell comes from my parents then its all their fault 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/28/hate-body-odour-youre-more-likely-to-have-rightwing-views
‘People who have a greater tendency to turn their nose up at the whiff of urine, sweat and other body odours are more likely to have rightwing authoritarian attitudes, research suggests.’
Very good, chris73 and nicely finished with a 🙂 – that’s the spirit!
Thing is, like Sir John Key, it’ll take a lot of time before the public tire of Jacinda so best to leave her alone and go after the weaker members of the herd and pick them off one by one
I just wonder who’d be the next target…
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/106851077/embattled-minister-clare-curran-struggles-to-explain-using-personal-email-for-government-business
Journalism is on the cutting edge of where it’s at. Or maybe not. I’m obviously not a journalist as who would pay for that sentence!
But it is amazing what will happen to you – TVNZ journalist reporting on Nauru at a cafe after talking to a refugee. Come with us, police station for three hours. But not detained, just have to be careful about being ‘unannounced’ in risk area.
Lost her accreditation, now got it back.
RNZ reporter Gia Garrick –
“We had an MFAT official sit the seven of us down, or actually it was the six of us minus Barbara [Dreaver], she wasn’t back at this stage …and tell us that the Nauru government would like to pass on a message to us that it would prefer if we reported on the Forum instead of just focussing on the one issue here.
Really it didn’t want any focus on the refugee issue that has led to problems for the poor Nauruans as well as the inmates. A no win situation for anyone, not even Australians who are so scared of these people. Doesn’t say much for supposedly bold, brave Ozzies in the wars does it.
https://www.radionz.co.nz/international/pacific-news/365728/nz-journalist-reaccredited-to-nauru-forum-meeting
Good morning Newshub That’s the way Prince Charles lead the way to a environmentally friendly future of sustainable energy ka pai .
I see that great innovative British company Dyson have invested in producing electric cars to ka pai.
That’s sad about that Mana Wahine Penny Bright we need more wahine like her to make a stand for the common people to be treated humanly & fairly by the big boys .
Duncan this is what happen’s when a government denies a housing shortage so there m8 can cash up on capital gain’s. I heard an know of a few people had to live in hotels
4 years ago and the Tsunami of house less tangata is still rolling in & rising .
This same phenomenon has been caused by the greedy people in America Britain Canada Australia the neo libreals buying there voter’s does anyone see a pattion here shonky .
Loyd the fishermen are hard men the scallop fishing dispute between British and French fishermen this must have been going on for a few years they need to Aline there policy’s so this situation you can not two competing fisheries and clearly one is not concerned about preserving the fishery as the other can you see the Bigotry .
Its is laugh able how no negative story’s got to be published and put on TV when the last government was in parliament conclusion FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Duncan there is no magic wand to fix your m8 deliberate shorting our housing markets for there gain . I can see you are all about your EGO ana to kai
Ka kite ano P.S and so are your bosses
Lance O Sullivan does not get the big Picture if
he did he would not go poking holes in the waka that has given the most care for common tangata whenua & then giving the party that caused this mess amo to fire at the Labour party his action could cause us to slide the neo libreals back into power that will be a stuff up for the poor people enough said ka kite ano
You know what makes Eco Maori get a sore face is a lot of Maori leader know that the justice system was and is still un fair to tangata whenua how do I know this well the upper classes are in the no they rub shoulders together they are part of the system and they did nothing to warn te tangata whenua about this un fair justisce system they are just looking out for there own best interest Eco looks out for all people future
Its not just about me in my Papatuanuku
Ka kite ano. Ana to kai
The sirens are going off again did you like my challenge I have sent out to all Maori Leaders He tangata he tangata he atua he tangata . Ka kite ano
P.S these leader’s are still deafening reality all around Papatuanuku the indigenous cultures are being pushed into hardship Australier America Canada Many country’s that are pushing native people under the bridge around Papatuanuku
Here you go a good education on reality for all tangata link is below ka kite ano
https://www.theguardian.com/news/audio/2018/sep/03/denialism-what-drives-people-to-reject-the-truth-podcast
WOW the sandflys are swarming today they tried a repeat of yesterday’s play by getting some of there young puppets to park right close behind me I could see how nervious the driver was . They think they know me YEA RIGHT
You want to know why they are so unset I used the Infrormation ACT on the New Zealand Police to get all files on me be it written, verbal ,voice recording ,video recording ,written any data and buy the LAWS in there book’s they have to give me this information . I will let you know how my progress is on this subject.
The sandfly’s are interfering in my son’s work life my wife’s work life all of my family’s lives and a lot of people know that this is happening They think they are above the Law that they break every day holding on to there bibles.
If they don’t give me my private information well that will tell all my readers that the justices systems are a SHAM . P.S why are they trying to get me to assault some one because they have nothing on me so they are trying to entice into assaulting one of there undercover muppets so they can beat me in there cells I can see the smoke coming out there ——– Ana to kai ka kite ano
Peter Thiel is one of the people responsible for putting trump in the White House we don;t need him coming down here with the attitude that he is a law on to him self using his money and Lawyers to do just that he will use his money to shape our laws to suit his class of people and who give’s a shit about the consequences of pushing more people onto the bread lines and on the street’s . He backs privatization and smaller governments the first one will siphon more money to the wealty from the poor the people who they don’t care about , There belief is that you have to have poor people this is justified by them they say poor people are what is needed to keep profits flowing up to the wealthy and wages low . The second one is because they want a small weak government so they can do what they want the government,s will be to weak to stop them. Thats how there capitalism WORKS he doe’s not care about the people if he did he would not have backed trump enough said link is below .
Of course Drury is going to back him Thiel is powerful enough to be able to cause a slide in Drurys favorite stock no. Ana to kai ka kite ano link below.Theil will be a raciest like his m8
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12120090
I filed A Infromation ACT on Ministry of Primary Industry to why because the top cop from Gisborne who started this farce man hunt on me got his ex cop m8 that work for MAF a well known fact that MAF is were cops go when they leave the police force .
So all the information that MAF has will open the door for my court case against the New Zealand Police to stop there un- justified harassment of me and my family .
I have some one of high credibility how told me that MAF was watching me they tryed to get him to sack me he told them were to go. Ana to kai ka kite ano P.S a lot of people can see your bad behavior
Here is a Mana Wahine she discovered the first pulser netron star they emite beams of radiation out two oppsite points on the star over 50 years ago her male colleges got the prize and hounners she was award a major science prize Ka pai the Papatuanuku is growing up. ka kite ano link is below
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45425872
Good evening Newshub the high price of fuel will encourage people to buy Electric Cars that’s a good thing .
The what Authority ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????.
That organization need to be scraped it is not interdependent it’s is that in NAME ONLY.
Game of Thrones a that’s a good win for Weta digital studio see computer TEC industry’s is big business and NZ is missing out because a lot of contracts for new work is going to over seas company’s.
Humpty Dumpty LOL. his mistress mite be able to put him to gather again.
3d printing is the technology that is going to help us get to a carbon neutral future .
The Mokopunas will just print what they want not shops no low freight Ka pai
Science is going to lead us to a better future that T cell therapy to treat cancer is awsome.
I give Papatuanuku creatures are awesome I had a ridge back dog that was huge .
Ka kite ano .
The Crowd Goes Wild Makere & Mulls I was just writing about Mull’s pronouncing those names he you did better than I would have.
No comment on the ref Mull’s &; Makere for the Leauge .
What was in the drink ??????
Dont cut the cheese Mulls leave the fruit alone guys .
Were’s Wairangi I could guess across the ditch no.
Ka kite ano P.S thats mean That the World Surfing is paying the Wahine the same as the men ka pai
The fake it till you make it class trump everyone could see there were heaps more people at Obama inuarguation than trumps. He still has idiots following him they are idiots as well he is dragging the worst of humanity out of there holes of – – – – fools Ka kite ano
Link is Below P.S lucky his muppets are only actually 20% of the people he fakes all the polls to like shonky
Trump inauguration crowd photos were edited after he intervened
This person is telling us to stop living in the past he would much rather hear about world war 1 & 2 than the real truth about what has happened in the past sure his hapu mite have lost a war and lost there best land but his sad excuse of dont live or look to the past is tipical. The reality is when a country does not teach te Mokopunas about the past they are hiding the facts that they RIPPED off All Maori and not just one hapu they are ashamed of the way they treated Maori full stop.
This writer has a silver spoon in his mouth that will be 1 reason he wants the past hidden he has been sucked into the denial spin what about the thousands of Maori in prison does he think that’s fair enough said link below Ka kite ano
https://i.stuff.co.nz/opinion/106877783/NEW-ZEALAND-WE-NEED-TO-STOP-LIVING-IN-THE-PAST PS this guy is a nagti pakeha
Good evening Newshub has simon sorted out his leak in his canoe enough said.
The Gisborne injection of money is good the roads are bad there back to the future Ka pai.
We can not even control party pill let
alone probiotic go figure.
Burt Reynolds was a excellent old school actor ECO enjoyed his humour and his movies Mike I guessing that you watch some of his movies.
Ka kite ano P.S I’m chasing our Mokopunas at the minute
The Crowd goes Wild Mulls & Wairangi
Wai I thought you were getting a tan in Australia.
That will be mean watching the Wahine League and then the Warriors game straight after Ka pai.
A Japanese Wahine in the finals for the Tennis Kia kaha.
The whenuapai Battlers I miss the name of the your sport.
That was a good win for Kelston college league team Ka kite ano.